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Hey everyone. I am a first time poster and a bit of a WinMo noob (I stick to Android and iPhone for my development). I have been using my old Dash with the 3VO rom ever since my G1 broke, but I had a question.
I like the 3VO rom, but I would really like to try something a bit more minimalist, closer to a vanilla 6.5 rom. I basically just need the HTC tethering utility. Is there a rom out there that would meet my needs? I did a lot of searching and found nothing.
P.S. Is there a place I could go to learn the basics of WinMo manipulation? I would like to try my hand at putting together a rom.
lkarmaz2 said:
Hey everyone. I am a first time poster and a bit of a WinMo noob (I stick to Android and iPhone for my development). I have been using my old Dash with the 3VO rom ever since my G1 broke, but I had a question.
I like the 3VO rom, but I would really like to try something a bit more minimalist, closer to a vanilla 6.5 rom. I basically just need the HTC tethering utility. Is there a rom out there that would meet my needs? I did a lot of searching and found nothing.
P.S. Is there a place I could go to learn the basics of WinMo manipulation? I would like to try my hand at putting together a rom.
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Why don´t you give AlekSS´s Rom a try? It´s like a Vanilla version of WM6.5.
About your need for manipulation, try to contact the chefs: AlekSS, NRGZ28, Ookba, Rickywatt (I think he is no longer an active excalibur chef), Stylez. They are not rockstars and very accessible. PM them.
Also, take a look @ the Development and Hacking forum. You can find valuable info there.
Regards
can the touch pro 2 run 6.5? or does it get the upgrade to 6.5?
yes, there are multiple 6.5 builds out there. what carrier do you use?
i have tmobile....i am new to the WinMo platform, i wanted to get the 6.5 upgrade and also run Android on my device.....does the Android hack support 6.5?
6.5 supports the android hack. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but you boot into windows and then load android. If your phone was purchase in the last month or two from Tmo you should already have 6.5 installed.
Here are some links for T-Mo 6.5:
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/Filedownload.aspx?pid=tp2
http://www.wmexperts.com/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-update-officially-out-now
Welcome from the Feisty Woman
Hi welcome to xda and enjoy your new brick...
Sorry, just some *****y humor to say before you do ANYTHING please read and then re-read all the wiki's/manuals/stickies in the Rhodium forum...there are steps you must take before "playing" with your phone, such as unlocking it. It is VERY IMPORTANT that you understand these steps or you will have a very pretty, very expensive paperweight aka brick.
6.5 is available as both a stock upgrade and custom roms. If your device is very new it may already have 6.5 on it. Droid is not fully functional yet, but it is becoming so very quickly...again, before attempting any rom change, RTFM!!
I would strongly urge you to read in both rom and droid sub-forums of Rhodium, as well as in the general sub-forum. Stickies are the best place to start.
Happy tinkering and welcome to xda, you will become seriously addicted and probably turn into a rom whore like most of us (that's the fun part)!!
ok, thanks 2 both of u guys answers, i will def read everything before doing so.....i jus wanted to try somethin diff, and also which one would u recommend? HD2 or Pro 2? my Pro 2 is on its way, but i didnt kno if the HD2 is better beacuse it has a faster processor and i am new to WinMo, i just left Blackberry...i had a G1 before that so i already kno how to use Android
denrenten said:
ok, thanks 2 both of u guys answers, i will def read everything before doing so.....i jus wanted to try somethin diff, and also which one would u recommend? HD2 or Pro 2? my Pro 2 is on its way, but i didnt kno if the HD2 is better beacuse it has a faster processor and i am new to WinMo, i just left Blackberry...i had a G1 before that so i already kno how to use Android
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Frankly, if my TP2 had the bigger processor that the HD2 has, it would be absolutely PERFECT (yes, I have processor envy!)
That being said...I would not trade in my TP2 for an HD2...I love the sturdiness of my TP2, I love the physical keyboard. I am very hard on phones, and I tested the HD2 out in the store and it felt like, to me, a wimpy iPhone...like I would snap it in half...but then my phone must battle makeup, hairbrushes, and whatever other girly stuff is in my purse that makes it weigh 50 pounds...so I need a bulky, sturdy device.
I do not know if/when the HD2 will be droid compatible, but I know our Rhodium chefs have been kicking ass in that arena!! We also have some wicked awesome chefs cooking up WinMo roms...I am personally a big fan of the Cell team, but all the chefs here are really awesome and very helpful.
Anyway, again, welcome to xda...and be sure you read and re-read before attempting any modifications.
how could i make the phone run faster? or free up more memory?
denrenten said:
how could i make the phone run faster? or free up more memory?
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That young padawan can be found by reading the forums...
check out some of those stickies/wikis mentioned as priority reading materials.
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...what I do is install "fluff" programs to my sd, also my cache files...I also routinely clean my phone of crap including bad uninstalls/shortcuts, dangling notifications and stuff like that using programs like SK Tools or MemMaid.
i am getting my self a htc desire but i have been a user of windows mobile software's for ever and i love it.
would i be able to still use some of the software's that i have on hand??
I would appriciate if you could email me your replies on this subject to
[email protected]
Thank you in advance
From what Ive seen on here from when other people have posted this question hes gonna get a lot of hate emails lol.
LOL, what a redicilous question!! Android FTW!
i'd wager it's possible if you can find a few dedicated people to support your cause.
Oh, and btw, bwahahahahahahahahahaha
And that's coming from someone who's had 4 WinMo devices in a row before a desire.
Since the specs are similar It might not be that difficult for people to get together etc..
But, If you can, try the desire and the HD2 and see which you prefer. After owning winmo before, and coming within inches of owning a HD2 and then trying a desire - linux is so much better at the user experience. The fluidity, ease of use and speed at which things are accessed is far better than the winmo 6.1 and 6.5 I have used before. The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
I'm just very happy that the phone doesnt stress me out trying to use it like winmo did. writing txts and swapping between functions is quick. Very cool.
It's not "Is it possible?" it's "Why bother?"
I hate "flame" conversation. But WHY bother? If you want snapdragon with WM then HD2 is your device. I have 10years of history with windows mobile devices from Cassiopeia A-11 with Windows CE, thru WM2003, 05, 06 and 6.5. And I can say after month with HTC Desire, every possible app is already for android and it runs faster and looks better. Except professional apps used in parcel delivery and stock monitoring (only question of time).
Don´t worry you´ll do just fine.
dieselboy said:
The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
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A six year old might be fine, the missus still struggles...
I, myself, am a fully fledged Android convert. Previously, my favourite devices were all WinMobile (Never liked Symbian much). I took a leap of faith and got my Desire on a bit of a whim (and a LOT of research) and I can honestly say I love Android to bits, it's easily the best Phone/Phone OS I've ever used so I'm on everyone in this forum's side when it comes to Android vs. WinMobile.
But I still have to say, I see nothing wrong with what the OP is asking. If someone released a port of Windows Mobile 6.5 or 7 for the Desire, I'd probably try it out myself, even for just a giggle. I know I'd go back to android probably within a few hours, but that's not the point, it's fun to play with stuff like that.
The fact that the guy has picked the Desire over the likes of the HD2 tells me that he's made his choice with Android and just wants to keep his options open - and what's wrong with that? This is exactly the kind of thing that XDA dev was designed for. Hell, my dream would be to have an OS choice at bootup, imagine being able to pick between your favourite custom ROMs, a stock ROM and even a WinMo ROM? That would be pretty epic and I don't think anyone would complain that it was a "Waste of time". So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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It is a stupid question when it gets asked week in week out.
A simple search would've revealed this - I just searched "Windows Mobile" and found 5 threads asking the same question.
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question. Rather than flame the guy, just ask him nicely to use search in future and point him to one of the threads.
Personally, I don't think the ignorance of the search bar is any worse than those who flame people for asking "stupid questions".
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question.
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note - it's rule 1!
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Dave
foxmeister said:
No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
Note - it's rule 1!
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Dave
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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Dave
Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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Dave
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I wouldn't say flaming, just wasn't terribly polite. Sure, the guy could have and should have used the search engine ,that's fair enough, but all the "Lols, why bother, android is teh win, winmo is teh suck!" style comments weren't helpful, informative or necessary at all.
I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that? It doesn't help and all you'll do is drag out this thread much more than it needs to be. Does this "stupid question" bother you that much? Then don't reply! Ignore it and it'll go away.
Anyway, upon further inspection, it's actually not that stupid inquestion. Despite the knee-jerk reaction we all got from the title, if you read his post carefully, he's actually asking if there's any way he can run some of his windows mobile programs on the Desire. Not the full OS, just some of the programs. Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question? We have emulators for plenty of other devices and anyone not that familliar with Android might not know that it's a completely different OS, or that it's completely incompatible. He's clearly a newbie, so go easy.
All I'm really saying is, if this kind of thing bothers you, drop the attitude and juse ignore it.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that?
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Because, judging from the amount of times I seen this patently ridiculous request, the polite helpful tone doesn't seem to work.
Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question?
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Yes frankly. It doesn't strike you as silly? you don't think the ability to run WM apps or some sort of virtualisation on Android might have made big waves by now? No? Really?
I would say if the attitude bothers you, YOU ignore it.
[email protected] said:
Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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Maybe it's because the Desire has more RAM that the HD2 and HD Mini, why can't someone just port winmo on a desire and shut people up thats asking for it too be ported..... surely its not that hard to port it over.....
"Maybe its just to hard for XDA Developers or anonymous developers on this forum to port it over.... ah well soo much for theres skills....
It serisouly serisouly can't be that hard.... if Android can be ported on a winmo mobile, why is it soo hard to port winmo on a Android phone thats 100% capable of running the O/S.
Please will someone just port it over to the Desire soo there will not be any more future threads of if it can be ported over.....
Maybe some people don't like Android and prefer winmo O/S because of there purchased apps maybe.
Please don't go mocking me saying "omg why would anyone wan't to do that.... Android is the best because its open source etc....
As the title states, is there a possible way of porting over a similiar Blackberry 6 styled ROM over? Although I am not a fan, the MIUI ROM is extremely popular and has an i*honeish feel to it and in some instances, can even be made to look like one.
I know there are theme's (not very good one's in my opinion) available on the Market, but i'm talking about having a similiar interface as that as what you would see on the new Torch, not just icons.
I'm currently running Myn's warm two point two Z beta and love this site as well as my DINC for it's awesomeness, but being an ex BBerry user, I think this would seriously present a challenge for some DEV out there looking for one and would be greatly appreciated by many on this site being that many have made the jump over the Android from BBerry.
Maybe i'm crazy and maybe this thread gets deleted, but there would certainly be nothing like this if created. Just a thought!
I think that this could certainly attract new users to rooting and ROM flashing, but as a recovering BB addict, I might have taken a lot longer to find all the other great ROM's which leverage all that Android can be...
JohnKuczek said:
I think that this could certainly attract new users to rooting and ROM flashing, but as a recovering BB addict, I might have taken a lot longer to find all the other great ROM's which leverage all that Android can be...
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I'd have to agree. My take on it is that if you really, really want the crackberry interface, then you should own a crackberry. Our Dinc's aren't iPhones, and they're not BB's. Trying not to be sounding rude, but maybe you bought the wrong phone?
I came to Android from BB, and have had them for years. At some point you just have to move on. Kicking and screaming maybe
CCrew said:
I'd have to agree. My take on it is that if you really, really want the crackberry interface, then you should own a crackberry. Our Dinc's aren't iPhones, and they're not BB's. Trying not to be sounding rude, but maybe you bought the wrong phone?
I came to Android from BB, and have had them for years. At some point you just have to move on. Kicking and screaming maybe
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I have MIUI because I for the longest time wanted an iPhone (getting one in Feb.), but theres nothing wrong with wanting. There isn't a phone on VZW running bb 6 currently, and simply wanting a phone that appears to look like bb 6 is what he wants. There isn't a WP7 on VZW and yet people make those themes and you all aren't *****ing at them.
Sorry man, there isn't one right now, but if you found enough theming elements you could probably make a close copy. Good luck.
Sidekick, thanks for backing me up. But in reality fellas I was simply posting the thread to see if there was any interest in pursuing development for such a ROM.
Even though I came from BBerry I dont actually want my awesome DInc to perform or be one for that matter, but you can't deny this wouldnt be a challenge to anyone wanting a change in developing ROM's.
This site is awesome and so is the work our Dev's do day in day out. Having said that, I dont want an iphone nor bberry, just simply presenting a challenge to my fellow colleagues
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AlpineM3 said:
Sidekick, thanks for backing me up. But in reality fellas I was simply posting the thread to see if there was any interest in pursuing development for such a ROM.
Even though I came from BBerry I dont actually want my awesome DInc to perform or be one for that matter, but you can't deny this wouldnt be a challenge to anyone wanting a change in developing ROM's.
This site is awesome and so is the work our Dev's do day in day out. Having said that, I dont want an iphone nor bberry, just simply presenting a challenge to my fellow colleagues
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np man... I hate it when people get elitist.
I don't know why you would want to disgrace your phone with a Blackberry rom. Blackberry OS is horrible. Only good thing I could see is it would actualy be on good hardware for once...
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I don't know why you would want to disgrace your phone with a Blackberry rom. Blackberry OS is horrible. Only good thing I could see is it would actualy be on good hardware for once...
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MIUI is soo popular considering it is an iPhone copy. I don't see why a proper WP7 or BBerry 6 ROM wouldn't be a hit. It's all about trying out new things and what not. Best of all, this would seriously represent such a challenge to any Dev out there and that is the reason we all love XDA right, because they do crazy things possible. I simply was throwing the idea out there to hear people's feedback on it. I love my DInc and wouldn't trade it for anything else, maybe except for the new Thunderbolt!
The HTC HD2 can now dual boot android and windows phone 7. I know that the hardware of the two phones are near-identical. Would it be possible to port WP7 to the Evo as well? If so, is anyone doing so?
btw: Don't flame, this is a specifically development related question; I only want your input if you have something relevant to say.
zorack8000 said:
The HTC HD2 can now dual boot android and windows phone 7. I know that the hardware of the two phones are near-identical. Would it be possible to port WP7 to the Evo as well? If so, is anyone doing so?
btw: Don't flame, this is a specifically development related question; I only want your input if you have something relevant to say.
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ha, you can put meego, ubuntu, winmo 6.5, win7, and android 2.3(?) on it...its ridiculous lol
you are in the wrong section, yes you want a developers input but you are asking a question about a WM phone in an Android rom section......
now think whats going to happen........
Despite his subject line, his question is about the Evo... however, I think the Q&A section would be a better place for this thread.
This has been asked about 5 or so times in this section(dev, but looks like its been moved).. unfortunately .... and has been trolled into oblivion.
please search before littering.. Im not trying to put you down.. but putting WINMO7 on the EVO is like asking to put a lawn mower engine in a Ferrari.. why hinder the performance.
and even mentioning WINMO here is blasphemous .. Just saying..
Sorry to bump an old thread, but with the leaked Sprint 'Gold' (HTC 7 Pro) WP7 ROM on the net and the HD2 working pretty well, are we any closer to a possible EVO WP7?
brennen.exe said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but with the leaked Sprint 'Gold' (HTC 7 Pro) WP7 ROM on the net and the HD2 working pretty well, are we any closer to a possible EVO WP7?
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No...
1) No one has said they are working on it.
2) I'm sure XDA would not allow it on the site due to Microsoft license (before you ask, it isn't license for our phone. Like swype can only be included in roms that it comes stock in)
Well I knew nobody was working on it, I was just curious about the possibility. I figured the licensing would be a touchy issue, but I honestly wasn't sure where exactly XDA stood in that regard considering the HD2 seems to have full support. Just curious, really.
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and even mentioning WINMO here is blasphemous .. Just saying..
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why? we all came from winmo devices. all android is, is a better version of that, same principle and fanbase. sorry but i had to say it.