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Running Windows Mobile on htc desire?? Possible??

i am getting my self a htc desire but i have been a user of windows mobile software's for ever and i love it.
would i be able to still use some of the software's that i have on hand??
I would appriciate if you could email me your replies on this subject to
[email protected]
Thank you in advance

From what Ive seen on here from when other people have posted this question hes gonna get a lot of hate emails lol.

LOL, what a redicilous question!! Android FTW!

i'd wager it's possible if you can find a few dedicated people to support your cause.
Oh, and btw, bwahahahahahahahahahaha
And that's coming from someone who's had 4 WinMo devices in a row before a desire.

Since the specs are similar It might not be that difficult for people to get together etc..
But, If you can, try the desire and the HD2 and see which you prefer. After owning winmo before, and coming within inches of owning a HD2 and then trying a desire - linux is so much better at the user experience. The fluidity, ease of use and speed at which things are accessed is far better than the winmo 6.1 and 6.5 I have used before. The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
I'm just very happy that the phone doesnt stress me out trying to use it like winmo did. writing txts and swapping between functions is quick. Very cool.

It's not "Is it possible?" it's "Why bother?"

I hate "flame" conversation. But WHY bother? If you want snapdragon with WM then HD2 is your device. I have 10years of history with windows mobile devices from Cassiopeia A-11 with Windows CE, thru WM2003, 05, 06 and 6.5. And I can say after month with HTC Desire, every possible app is already for android and it runs faster and looks better. Except professional apps used in parcel delivery and stock monitoring (only question of time).
Don´t worry you´ll do just fine.

dieselboy said:
The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
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A six year old might be fine, the missus still struggles...

I, myself, am a fully fledged Android convert. Previously, my favourite devices were all WinMobile (Never liked Symbian much). I took a leap of faith and got my Desire on a bit of a whim (and a LOT of research) and I can honestly say I love Android to bits, it's easily the best Phone/Phone OS I've ever used so I'm on everyone in this forum's side when it comes to Android vs. WinMobile.
But I still have to say, I see nothing wrong with what the OP is asking. If someone released a port of Windows Mobile 6.5 or 7 for the Desire, I'd probably try it out myself, even for just a giggle. I know I'd go back to android probably within a few hours, but that's not the point, it's fun to play with stuff like that.
The fact that the guy has picked the Desire over the likes of the HD2 tells me that he's made his choice with Android and just wants to keep his options open - and what's wrong with that? This is exactly the kind of thing that XDA dev was designed for. Hell, my dream would be to have an OS choice at bootup, imagine being able to pick between your favourite custom ROMs, a stock ROM and even a WinMo ROM? That would be pretty epic and I don't think anyone would complain that it was a "Waste of time". So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.

neoKushan said:
So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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It is a stupid question when it gets asked week in week out.
A simple search would've revealed this - I just searched "Windows Mobile" and found 5 threads asking the same question.
Regards,
Dave

Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question. Rather than flame the guy, just ask him nicely to use search in future and point him to one of the threads.
Personally, I don't think the ignorance of the search bar is any worse than those who flame people for asking "stupid questions".

neoKushan said:
Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question.
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note - it's rule 1!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
Note - it's rule 1!
Regards,
Dave
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
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neoKushan said:
Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
Regards,
Dave

Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.

foxmeister said:
You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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I wouldn't say flaming, just wasn't terribly polite. Sure, the guy could have and should have used the search engine ,that's fair enough, but all the "Lols, why bother, android is teh win, winmo is teh suck!" style comments weren't helpful, informative or necessary at all.

I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.

Aitese said:
I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that? It doesn't help and all you'll do is drag out this thread much more than it needs to be. Does this "stupid question" bother you that much? Then don't reply! Ignore it and it'll go away.
Anyway, upon further inspection, it's actually not that stupid inquestion. Despite the knee-jerk reaction we all got from the title, if you read his post carefully, he's actually asking if there's any way he can run some of his windows mobile programs on the Desire. Not the full OS, just some of the programs. Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question? We have emulators for plenty of other devices and anyone not that familliar with Android might not know that it's a completely different OS, or that it's completely incompatible. He's clearly a newbie, so go easy.
All I'm really saying is, if this kind of thing bothers you, drop the attitude and juse ignore it.

neoKushan said:
See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that?
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Because, judging from the amount of times I seen this patently ridiculous request, the polite helpful tone doesn't seem to work.
Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question?
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Yes frankly. It doesn't strike you as silly? you don't think the ability to run WM apps or some sort of virtualisation on Android might have made big waves by now? No? Really?
I would say if the attitude bothers you, YOU ignore it.

[email protected] said:
Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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Maybe it's because the Desire has more RAM that the HD2 and HD Mini, why can't someone just port winmo on a desire and shut people up thats asking for it too be ported..... surely its not that hard to port it over.....
"Maybe its just to hard for XDA Developers or anonymous developers on this forum to port it over.... ah well soo much for theres skills....
It serisouly serisouly can't be that hard.... if Android can be ported on a winmo mobile, why is it soo hard to port winmo on a Android phone thats 100% capable of running the O/S.
Please will someone just port it over to the Desire soo there will not be any more future threads of if it can be ported over.....
Maybe some people don't like Android and prefer winmo O/S because of there purchased apps maybe.
Please don't go mocking me saying "omg why would anyone wan't to do that.... Android is the best because its open source etc....

[Q] WP7 on Desire?

will it be possible for ppl to port wp7 onto the desire? altho it's probably strictly not legal cos of the closedness of wp7..

honestly.. why?

How many times are we going to see the exact same question posted over and over (and over)? Did you think to search before posting? Wait, don't answer that, it's a stupid question since we all know the answer already (you're obviously pressed for time since you couldn't be bothered to type all of the letters in some of your words)
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you got more chance of getting windows 7 on your desire lol

+1 for wp7 on desire
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atomfix said:
+1 for wp7 on desire
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom

AndroHero said:
well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Oh, is that all

AndroHero said:
well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Pshhhhh, can do that in an evening...

Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?

People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.

CrimzonEyed said:
Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?
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i like android but it abso does not 'rapes all other....'. gpu acceleration of the UI, for some utterly retarded reason, is missing and that makes the phone laggy at times when you're multitasking.
modern phones like ours have gpus and the damn UI should have been hardware accelerated as of android 2.1.
our desires as they are now (2.2) with hard accel or the UI would make it iphone/winmo 7 smooth (winmo is smooth - see hte anandtech article on it).
that's what i want for my desire above anything else at the moment - well, that and the ability to do the absolutely 100% legal task of recording my calls.
google are so stupid sometimes. hopefully winmo and a decent webos phone will light a fire under em to get some of the basics right before moving on to something else.

fraW said:
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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Its harder than that. Yeah, Android can be ported to devices becaise its open source.
And how are there no good answers? I guess youve just completely ignored AndroHeros reply, and fhe 2 people who have quoted him... [/rage]
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fraW said:
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."

jstegeman said:
There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."
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Indeed!
Just because people don't like the answer that's given doesn't make it a bad answer, or any less correct (assuming it is correct!).
And there is *no* excuse for not using search. From the forum rules:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note that this is rule 1! The OP is not a newbie, so should have known better!
Regards,
Dave

Sure WP7 is closed source, but closed source has never stopped devs before.
The answer "No" with nothing else following it is generally a really bad answer, for many reasons.
It is possible to port WP7 to desire, the question is rather Who and When then If.
People said that the PS3 NEVER will be hacked, look what happened 4 years later.
Don't be so closed minded.
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I don't really understand the pessimism. Many handsets that didn't get officially WinMo 6.5 EVER, got it from ROM chefs here at XDA. Why should it be different this time?

This has been asked and answered quite a few times. Search and Google are your friends.
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[Req]Windows Phone 7

I dont know if this is the appropriate forum but i think it would be cool if we could get windows phone 7 running on our EVOs, the HD2 recently got it and its similar in hardware so i dont see why it wouldnt be possible

+1 That would be sweet!

Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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mikesousa said:
Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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That don't mean nothing. The acer liquid is only gsm and there is a port of that for the EVO.

+10 on this, I looked at one the other day and those things are pretty sweet. Absolutely love android but this would still be an awesome port.

mikesousa said:
Well first wrong forum.
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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.

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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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+1, exactly what I was wondering

mattykinsx said:
Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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corybucher said:
+1, exactly what I was wondering
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Development section is for releases, not questions

Veritas06 said:
Development section is for releases, not questions
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It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.

mattykinsx said:
It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.
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It's still not a release though. As soon as some work is (if ever) started on it, this would be the correct section.

You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha

It would be quite wonderful to port WP7 to a phone like the EVO. But I believe it will be a daunting task as the HD2 has it easy(ish) they have windows mobile already installed on the device. If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
Drivers are the hardest to get working, the software could problably be made to work relatively easy. But without drivers to communicate with the cpu, storage, display, and etc there would not be much to see at all even if the software was able to run.
Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.

shadowline said:
Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.
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Yeah, I don't believe they have the full API for the camera among several other things.

Greenfieldan said:
You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha
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I agree 100%. It was designed for tweenagers to be able to do all their social networking. Its kin 2.0 and they are even considering adding a new 'kin' studio. Personally, I don't recommend trying to port it over to an android device as Microsoft might not take too kindly to the licensing issue.

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If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
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HTC HD7 is a pretty much an HD2 with WP7 if I'm not mistaken...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818607

The hd2 is pretty much a evo just GSM.

flame and troll and flame and troll and bash someone for bringing up a great idea now back to flame and troll and flame and troll.
To the OP love the idea hope to see it come to light, ill definitely try it if someone can do it.

devs should not waste time with other OS's. reason being is that too much work is needed just to get everything working, and thats the job of the manufacturer. i rather they spend it adding/improving features to the solid foundation we have already, android.
plus android is free, windows is not and nor htc or you paid for windows on the evo so even if they had a fully working port you'd somehow have to get a license from MS and since they only sell oem license to manufacturer dont know how you could even legally get one. just my 2 cents

This would be REALLY sweet, but i dont see it working out until a CDMA WP7 is released, porting from GSM is 1000x harder to get working real well E.X. - Desire HD/Acer liquid ports.
I was in the microsoft store at my mall, they said a sprint CMDA WP7 is due this year. I'd be willing to bet itll be ported within a week after its released.

WP7 port

hey is there any chance that windows phone 7 will be ported to the htc desire?
It's already done for the htc hd2 and the hardware of the desire and hd2 are really similar to each other. Android is a really great os better than ios in my opinion and I don't want ios running on my desire else I would have bought an iphone in the first place, but anyway running windows phone 7 on my android device as a second os is what I think not bad isn't it?
I mean wp7 is smooth as hell and I would love to try wp7 out.
soo will there be a port of wp7 to the htc desire?

i feel sorry for you man. my prediction is you will be atacked by atleast 100 people

I was going to ask the same question. I'd really like to see WinPh 7 running on my Desire, possibly a dual boot hehe

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i feel sorry for you man. my prediction is you will be atacked by atleast 100 people
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lol I know what you mean xD but still if I had the knowledge to port it I would have done it even if the os isn't as good as android I sill would have because it has the abilty to run it so why not? (I mean hardware wise)

This has already been asked, infact it's currently on page 2 of this forum.
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[Q] Windows Phone 7?

I know Android is better (I am running the CM7 nightly), but I thought it might be nice if we could get some sort of actual ROM for the D. Inc. that was WP7.

Not a dev, but I don't think that is possible. You can get home replacements that replicate it, but you're pretty much stuck with android on your incredible. There was a project to port webOS over to the desire, but that had pretty much hit a dead end the last time that I checked.

I would love to see how wp7 works on our device too. Just read hd2 has dual boot android and wp7 roms running. Port maybe? If nothing, to satisfy curiosities and to have another rom to show off?
P. S. My sig is indicative of how I look at roms...
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I know a poster from another forum who has a HD2 running android. Would be nice if we could run wp7.

I know. I'm kind of a ROM whore too, but I tend to end up with CM7 nightlies simply because it's the fastest unskinned gingerbread build out there for the Inc.

Windows phone 7 will not run. On our devices. End of story
Reported this thread to the mod
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superchilpil said:
Windows phone 7 will not run. On our devices. End of story
Reported this thread to the mod
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This may be in the wrong section, but why do you gotta be so harsh about it? Take one of your chill pills bro. although very unlikely, you never know if someone with the ability will try to bring something like wp7 to our device.
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The reason that they have Android running on Windows devices is because they know that Android kicks ass. They all want to be like us. I'm going to get an iPhone...when they get Android running on it. LOL

superchilpil said:
Windows phone 7 will not run. On our devices. End of story
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I put this in the Development section because I was wanting to know if someone could develop a WP7 ROM for this device. Sorry if I confused you.

ahkenatan said:
I put this in the Development section because I was wanting to know if someone could develop a WP7 ROM for this device. Sorry if I confused you.
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Even though what you are asking my require "development", it is in fact, not development in itself and therefore it belongs in "q and a". I mean think about it, you even put [q] in your thread title.

It is much easier to get android running on a non-Android native phone because Android's code is open sourced whereas WP7 or webOS is not. Thus making it much more difficult if not impossible to port to our devices.

you know what i find funny?? we all say that our phone and XX OS is so much better than all others (Ios, Android, WP7...) but then we go and try to make our Android look like WP7 with home replacements, or ROMs like MIUI for the IPhone crowd...
I had Anroid eclair running on my HTC Touch Pro so I to am guilty of it, I just think it is funny.

Devildog8791 said:
The reason that they have Android running on Windows devices is because they know that Android kicks ass. They all want to be like us. I'm going to get an iPhone...when they get Android running on it. LOL
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#1 This is in the wrong section, and don't try to play dumb about it, you have a Q in your thread title, stating its a question.
To the above quote, they already have android running on the iPhone - http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html

i was so harsh because the OP didnt even try a search to read the other 20 threads about putting WP7 on our device
I do believe putting windows on a non windows phone is a violation on some law.. yadda yadda
android is open source thats why its so widley available
The HD2 was MEANT for WP7 but Microsoft didnt release in time and The HD2 is windows native so thats why they could port it

Seems like W7 is a few steps behind Android anyways, so....wouldn't touch it, unless it was just from curiosity.

Since the HD2 carries pretty much the same specs as our phone in terms of processor and it can run Android as well as WP7 then what I am trying to ask is what's the limitation on our phone? Besides our radio being CDMA instead of GSM.

Wait til verizon has the htc trophy (wp7. Soon.) Party with colored blocks. Return for android again.Buy a zune. Be thankful.
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Devildog8791 said:
The reason that they have Android running on Windows devices is because they know that Android kicks ass. They all want to be like us. I'm going to get an iPhone...when they get Android running on it. LOL
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Been there done that lol
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superchilpil said:
i was so harsh because the OP didnt even try a search to read the other 20 threads about putting WP7 on our device
I do believe putting windows on a non windows phone is a violation on some law.. yadda yadda
android is open source thats why its so widley available
The HD2 was MEANT for WP7 but Microsoft didnt release in time and The HD2 is windows native so thats why they could port it
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Apply to be a mod, then you can boss kids like that all the time. Until then, just stop. Let overground do his job.

wdfowty said:
Apply to be a mod, then you can boss kids like that all the time. Until then, just stop. Let overground do his job.
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Read my post, i didnt boss anyone around. i only answered questions
i do let him do his job, but as u know he cant be here 24/7

They may like the options / customizability of android, but the look of WP7 / iOS. Android gives the option to have both
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