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TyTN Bricked.....White Screen

Before I start getting flamed.....I have been researching the methods to solve this bricking for the last 3 days and NOTHING has worked.
I have tried HARD resetting (2 soft keys and reset) tried flashing with bootloader version 1.04....NOTHING.
I cannot understand what to do next. Nothing is working, the WMBLACK screen is coming up and then the white screen!!!!
I have followed several instructions and I must be doing something wrong!!!
Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks
NJV

Have you gone here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick

Yes....this is the first place I looked....I have followed everything....still nothing.

Hmmm... doesn't sound to me like a brick in the true sense. Do you have Hard-SPL installed? If so I'd check for bad blocks. If not, I'd flash Hard-SPL, then check.
See bootloader section of the Wiki and the Hard-SPL thread (mtty, 'info 8' and 'task 2a' in particular).
EDIT: Oh yeah, I think a bad battery can cause weird behavior like that, too. Gotta spare you can try?

I've tried loading hard SPL and it keeps telling me it can't communicate with the unit.
I will go back and try what you have mentioned again.
I unfortunately don't have another battery.
Thanks I will report back....your help is appreciated.

You have to 'force SSPL' on the Hard-SPL install...

Hey mate, remi from australia here. I have a Dopod 838 pro which is the same as your device and I had the same problem a couple of months ago when Black released version 3.5 of WM6. I searched long and hard on the internet for solutions to this problem, some ppl thought it was a heat related issue which I thought could be correct because when I had the problem, if I left the device off for a couple of hours then turned it on again and did a hard reset it would work for about 10 mins... however yea 10 mins and the same issue again, other people thought it was a short circuit in the device and others managed to get rid of the white screen by applying presure to the chassis above the right soft key, above the "ok" button..... but none of these worked for me, when I was getting the problem the keys would malfunction and stop worling then the screen would go white and it would be stuffed again. after a while it was permanent and no hard resets helped anymore. I went to my dealer and they organised a new handset to be sent out to me within a couple of days. when it arrived I compared mine to the new one and one thing I noticed was that the LCD on my bricked device was a very clear white constantly, when it was off, like it had burnt out completely and the new dopod had a dark black LCD with no visible boarders, clearly showing the lcd was stuffed. so if the bricked device has a screen which has a clear white boarder on the lcd like a white picture in a blck frame its really stuffed. but yea the only way u can fix it is by sending it off to your dealer for repair or try and get a replacement out of them!
regards
remi

I had the same issue. Turned out the video chip had come loose from the board and a couple of necessary connections weren't happening. I had to send mine in for repair.
I was out of warranty and sent mine to PPCtechs. They sent it back as good as new with a shiny screen protector.

Problem!!!!! The Screen Turns Totaly White

Hi
I have the Official HTC WM6 ROM installed on my jasjam, been using it for over a month now but now suddenly the screen turns white and the buttons don't work too. it just turns white, only when i soft reset a few times does it come back on. Anybody having this issue??
HELP

Try a Hard Reset but you'll lose all your information.
Hope you backed up!!

You might want to read the following threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331384 (in case it's a pretty bad issue)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 (in case it's bad blocks, which is very fixable)

Thanks so much guys
but i didn't seem to find a solution here, i have the 2.10 - Hard-SPL-V7 flashed.
do you think if i revert to the Orignal Imate WM5 Rom would solve the problem??
Please help me here, i gather its a software issue not a hardware one.
Thanks

It's more likely to be a hardware issue. I had the same problems, some times the hardware buttons from the lower part of the Hermes doesn't work, some times I got a lot of white screens, regardless the WM version. Finally I send it to service and now everything works flawless.

It's a hard problem. I have seen this problem on a french forum.
I have found a link to correct this : http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytn-flex-cable-p-1732.html
And the topic in french : http://www.forummobiles.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=102083&view=findpost&p=1415329
No more link to this piece on cnn.cn

Thanks a lot guys, luckily mines under warranty so will take it to the guys.
thanks again

cleaned my connectors with alcohol and now everything works

hi,
how did you do that??? can you please guide me please?
Thanks

open your device
disconnect the connectors
and clean both sides with alcohol

Thanks but a little apprehensive to do that, do i have to disconnect every connector there? i mean that could mean disassembling the whole unit, was the white screen for you reoccurring constantly?

white screen
even I am facing the sam issue... screen goes white and lower button wont work... this is mostly becoz of over heated or expossed in sun ... Do any one having actual solution for this??

whit screen
even I am facing the sam issue... screen goes white and lower button wont work... this is mostly becoz of over heated or expossed in sun ... Do any one having actual solution for this??

.:: HELP Appreciated ::. Universal - WHITE SCREEN Problem...

.:: HELP Appreciated ::.
Hello Tech GURUS,
I returned from a long tour (I kept my XDA EXEC at home) & found that my XDA EXEC has got a problem of WHITE SCREEN!! Nothing is Displayed!!
May be brother's childrens or anyone of my friend accidentally did it in my absence(Sorry I'm NOT Sure). May be they pivoted (Turned) the screen in a WRONG DIRECTION!
That doesn't matter WHO DID IT, But the problem screwed my head & I started to trace the problem.
Symptoms:
1) Only WHITE SCREEN(with LCD Backlight), Nothing Else.
2) Charges perfectly through USB & also from Charger.
3) When I connects it to ACTIVE SYNC, it Syncs fine & I can able to explore the files/folders. Copy from & to the handset memory is also works fine.
4) Tried to enter into BOOTLOADER Mode(by pressing Light+Power+Reset), there also got a BLANK SCREEN (NO LCD Backlight).
5) TOUCH SCREEN detects TAPs & make sounds (Tick Tick), That indicates Touch Screen Working fine.
6) Qwerty KeyBoard Works fine. I don't know at what extent, since I can't see nothing on screen. But when I press a key on QWERTY Kbrd, it sounds Tick.
7) Transfered(Beamed) a CONTACT from my another XDA IIi & found Its accepted the beamed data.
8) Volume Up/Down make sounds (Tick, Tick...).
What I Did:
1) Removed the Battery & re-inserted & tried to BOOT it. NO result, just a WHITE SCREEN.
2) Purposely Tried to Rotate the Screen in Wrong Direction to test the loose contacts of co-axial cable.
3) Lastly Dis-Assembled the whole handset (Removed all parts 100%) & Re-Assembled it. But the Problem remains SAME.
4) Dis-Assembled again & this time I tested the LCD Co-Axial Cable's connectivity from MainBoard side connector to LCD Side Connector. There are 2 Cables which connects to LCD. One is 30 Cores Cable & Second one is 40 Cores Cable.
I Successfully tested 30 Cores Cable(Actually it used only 28cores cable, remaining 2 points at connector are DUMMY) & Second 40 Cores Cable I'm UNABLE to Test Since I lost my patience while connecting my Testing Meter to Hair Line sized cores & in just an 10mm connector got 40 cores!!!
5) Observed all cores which passes through SCREEN ROTATOR BASE Hinges & found there is NO physical Damage or CORE CUT.
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
JUST CONFUSED & SEEKING HELP FROM TECH GURUS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
HellCrusher.

Hi hellcrusher,
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
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This seems to be a hardware problem. Check connectors in the display housing first. This unit is quite easy to disassemble.
Before you start, you should have a look in the universal SERVICE MANUAL to check out how it gets torn apart .
If all connectors to the display are right in place, but your display still shows nothing ...open the universal body too.
Folow the steps in the manual
Regards,
scholbert

White Screen
Hello, this is my first post. May I first just say how great I think this site is, the guides on here really are useful to beginners.
With regard to the white screen, not sure if this helps, but during dismantling of my various PDAs, I managed to connect an LCD ribbon incorrectly, I kind of forced it in & folded one contact over, resulting in white screen. Disconnected, straightened & refit. Hey presto, works like a charm. Hope this helps.

I had the issue, had to buy a new flat cable
It is rare to actually see the damage to the cable, because the damage is inside the insulation....
Best regards!

On the topic...
Hello!
I have a similar issue with my Orange SPVm5000, except that mine will work for up to a minute after a hard reset before going to a white screen.
If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
Thanks!
Greg.

I have a similar problem. The story;
I purchased an orange branded M5000 on flebay described as second hand in fantastic condition blaa blaa.
When the phone eventualy turned up it had no manual, the outer sleeve of the box was missing and the wrong usb cable was supplyed (one of those larger usb plugs you usualy get for printers.
I have shedlooads of cables and rely wasn't bothered about any of these problems at the time and went about charging the phone (it was totaly flat)
When fully charged I stuck my sim in and poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
I contacted the seller who basicly told me the phone is second hand so sold as seen!?!?!?
I have flashed various roms on it to see if it was a software fault but nothing.
I think this phone had been in storage as its battery was totaly flat and incorrect accessories suggest the seller didn't check it before shipping. So I believe there is a problem with this phone that occurs when stored.
Sorry for the long post

Have you flashed any rom or just had this problem ...
my conclusions:
1. If you have flashed a new rom to your universal, try to reflash the original rom, it works for many users.
2. If you havent flashed any rom, maybe its a hardware problem.
2.1 If you just used it in a bad way, (ie: rotate screen in wrong way), dissamble it..
2.2 If you have let it on a heat, weat, etc.. place.. maybe the mainboard got a cut-circuit.
Saludos

I tryed a couple of popular WM6 roms (I forget whitch ones) and returned to the genuine Orange WM5 rom. So I doubt its a software fault.
As far was extreme conditions go the phone was well packaged when posted I will gove that to the seller SO unless the eposure happened before shipping I don't think thats to blame ether.
I think the wire in the swivle joint is failing and will continue to get worse as the joint is exercised.

Try to clear it up..
Hi there,
i made a lot experiments with the uni, so let me try to focus what's wrong:
First LVTato's Orange SPVm5000
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If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
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Sounds like the image could not be loaded completely.
The framebuffer is initialized correctly after cold boot, but afterwords booting into wince fails.
So maybe it's pure software issue (flash content is corupt -> image is broken).
Other possibility: Some region of your flash is damaged (more hardware related).
jahshappybus' Orange SPVm5000:
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poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
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Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!
So this is what i guess at least.
Regards,
scholbert

White screen
99 % of these white screen faults is a typical cable issue. And you don't have to twist your screen wrong way to have this problem, also.... just twist it too often First you have to see if the device is working, apart the screen.... call the number of your phone see if it is just screen related problem. Broken display cable will leave your device oprational, you just don't see the image.
I know it is "less painfull" for people to think it is a software problem.... (The "it would not happen to me" syndrome ) but sometimes things just brake, and moving parts are most risky...
The fact you don't see the damage is of no importance due to the size and nature of the damage. Don't expect to see broken wires in the cable. And even if you check the cable by you instrument, somethimes it will show you it's ok, but in some positions it will loose contact.
Try a different cable... that way you'll be sure.
Best regards, and all the luck!

"Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!"
I agree and luckily, finally paypal do as well.
It is being boxed up to a red faced seller as we speak.
A happy ending for me (speaking to soon?)

i hav the same problem as u "HELLCRUSHER" and i flashed also but was not able to cure
still hav this white screen ..

Found this link for some where selling the screen cable assmebly.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300254338133
Hope this is of use.

startup fails half way (hardware problem)

I dropped my Orange M650 once and since then it had problems. On heavy processor usage (voice call or watching movies) it hangs and I had to remove the battery for several minutes before it would boot again.
Now things have gone worse and the phone fails to boot. I do see the splash screen and OS version numbers appear but then it stalls. The Windows screen never appears and I have to remove the battery to switch the phone off.
I opened the housing and checked for loose connectors and things like that but everything seems ok. I have some electronics knowledge but without schematics I don't know where to start.
1) Are there any hints on what the problem could be?
2) Are there schematics available?
3) What would be the price for a replacement PCB?
Thanks.

Indy31 said:
I dropped my Orange M650 once and since then it had problems. On heavy processor usage (voice call or watching movies) it hangs and I had to remove the battery for several minutes before it would boot again.
Now things have gone worse and the phone fails to boot. I do see the splash screen and OS version numbers appear but then it stalls. The Windows screen never appears and I have to remove the battery to switch the phone off.
I opened the housing and checked for loose connectors and things like that but everything seems ok. I have some electronics knowledge but without schematics I don't know where to start.
1) Are there any hints on what the problem could be?
2) Are there schematics available?
3) What would be the price for a replacement PCB?
Thanks.
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hi, i had a similar problem, after installing too much software ended up i just did a hard reset, and its all back working ok (minus the large amounts of programs)

XDA Orbit
I'm having the same problems :| i had them with WM 5,after upgrade it to WM6 from a O2 original rom still failing,even with the Artemis Touch...and never fell the floor :S

[Q] Xperia Play display bug

Hello there.
I bough my second hand Xperia Play few months ago and it was fine. I rooted it, but kept stock ROM, as I found out my device have forbidden access to bootloader (and it cannot be done, or at least that's how I understood it - nevermind it now).
It was fine, until let's say 3 weeks ago. My phone started to graphically glitch in a very weird way. It grew worse and worse and now I cannot use it anymore ... unless it "wants" to, because sometimes the phone works perfectly normally.
I captured the problem with my second phone ... it's not so high quality, but please try to imagine the weird colours and shapes you see on the screen, only that in reality, they are extra sharp. It looks like colourful grains of sand
youtube.com/watch?v=S1qkkiuEU8M&feature=youtu.be
I suppose something has happened with graphic chip in the device and while this has happened before (to my w550i), this case is a bit different. It works sometimes. I push OFF button and it shows grain. I push it again and grain is there again. But sometimes it normally shows me unlocking slider, I unlock it and it's OK. Sometimes it stucks during unlocking and while the phone works, display shows last working state, for example unlocking slider in the middle of sliding.
I've tried to search for such topic, if it happened before, but wasn't able to come with good search terms to start with : /
I also tried to restart the phone many times, to no avail (grain display is simply during startup too), or even install ROM again through SE updater ... nothing. That was my last choice, now I'm clueless.
Anyone who knows about this issue, from different mobile phone (it doesn't matter), or if it can be repaired by me, or in shop for money (that wouldn't cost more than new phone) or simply any hint you can give me ? I'll be glad, will appreciate it.
EDIT: I added photo too:
i48.tinypic.com/2z71ypy.jpg
Again - it looks like that, only much sharper.

Martyrius said:
Hello there.
I bough my second hand Xperia Play few months ago and it was fine. I rooted it, but kept stock ROM, as I found out my device have forbidden access to bootloader (and it cannot be done, or at least that's how I understood it - nevermind it now).
It was fine, until let's say 3 weeks ago. My phone started to graphically glitch in a very weird way. It grew worse and worse and now I cannot use it anymore ... unless it "wants" to, because sometimes the phone works perfectly normally.
I captured the problem with my second phone ... it's not so high quality, but please try to imagine the weird colours and shapes you see on the screen, only that in reality, they are extra sharp. It looks like colourful grains of sand
youtube.com/watch?v=S1qkkiuEU8M&feature=youtu.be
I suppose something has happened with graphic chip in the device and while this has happened before (to my w550i), this case is a bit different. It works sometimes. I push OFF button and it shows grain. I push it again and grain is there again. But sometimes it normally shows me unlocking slider, I unlock it and it's OK. Sometimes it stucks during unlocking and while the phone works, display shows last working state, for example unlocking slider in the middle of sliding.
I've tried to search for such topic, if it happened before, but wasn't able to come with good search terms to start with : /
I also tried to restart the phone many times, to no avail (grain display is simply during startup too), or even install ROM again through SE updater ... nothing. That was my last choice, now I'm clueless.
Anyone who knows about this issue, from different mobile phone (it doesn't matter), or if it can be repaired by me, or in shop for money (that wouldn't cost more than new phone) or simply any hint you can give me ? I'll be glad, will appreciate it.
EDIT: I added photo too:
i48.tinypic.com/2z71ypy.jpg
Again - it looks like that, only much sharper.
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Imo that should be the flex cable problem, the cable which connects the motherboard and the screen, is damaged. Unroot, send to Sony centre, or maybe you can purchase it from eBay and fix it yourself.
Sent from my awesome Xperia Play with DoomKernel

Thanks man a lot, because you gave me what I needed (second to) most - search terms through which I can find more.
I knew that there has to be cables connecting display with main body somewhere, such as there are similar cables in hinges between notebook display and main body ... but I supposed they would be well crafted, because the mobile is suppose to be sliding between these two states quite often.
I also saw this, to which your another post helped me to go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646537
I will now try to learn how to take the phone apart (some are easy, some are hard to do so) and hope for the best. The good thing is that display is probably OK. Display usually costs a lot, right ?
So if I won't be able to take it apart by myself and will be forced to go to repair shop, I will have KNOWLEDGE ( ) and won't be fooled by greedy repairmen, who would want to tax me new display or something apart of cable-replacing/connecting.

Good luck to you mate. All the best.
Sent from my awesome Xperia Play with DoomKernel

OK, news update - so far, nothing real has happened. I contacted one friend whose father repairs stuff, maybe it will help. I also bought set of T4 screwdriver heads so I can remove those buggers on the phone (and if that father-repairman plan fails I'll just do it myself). I also contacted guy from whom I bought the phone (because it's only 3 months old), maybe he will feel a bit guilty (it's actually a shop, not just person) and help me to repair it for bargain price.
We'll see.
And just one question for you, or anyone else who ever did this. How often it is needed to replace flex cable ? Or in other words - how often just connecting it again is enough ? Because buying form ebay isn't option for me (no credit card, no paypal, or whatever is needed - and I live in Central Europe). Not sure if such specialized parts are freely available to buy in electronic shops. After all, Xperia Play isn't so widely spread android phone and to add to improbability - flex cable replacement isn't usual problem too. Or is it ?
Just food for thoughts.