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Does anyone know why the signal is SOOOOOOO weak on the rhodium ? =|
Yuuvi said:
Does anyone know why the signal is SOOOOOOO weak on the rhodium ? =|
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I have no problems whatsoever with reception... almost always full signal
I've very low signal at most times, but it is not affect to quality of calling.
Quallity of call? I just lost my entire signal lol.. cant call whatsoever.
Yuuvi said:
Quallity of call? I just lost my entire signal lol.. cant call whatsoever.
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As to signal strength, I do not experience any significant difference compared to my TYTN2. And my provider has some weak spots in the surrounding of where I live, so I have been able to test the signal strength under various conditions. Where it comes to quality, the TP2/Rhodium is significantly better (at least on my side of the call).
Cheers, Dela
I definitely find the signal much weaker on my TP2 than I did with my tytnII.
Also lots of (related, I guess) problems with it switching between 3g/H and G - get the "cannot connect" message too much.
Never having done much ROM stuff, will this be bettered with the new ROMs that will come after Hard SPL?
cielorosso said:
I have no problems whatsoever with reception... almost always full signal
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same here. Actually seems better than the HD for me
Actually I have batt problems with a specific operator. The batt wont last even a full day with Vivo. Buit with other operators, a day and a half easy.
I think it is signal related.
my signal is very weak as well. i have compared my new TP2 to my old S710. I get 3 bars on my old one as opposed to 1 bar on my new high dollar phone.
What can I do to make my signal stronger in my TP2? I have called Tmobile. They have troubleshot with me, checked the tower, etc. I truly think it is phone related. HELP!!
I am tired of dropped calls.
I find the signal on mine slightly better than my TyTN II or at worst at Par with the TyTN II. Does anyone ever get that chequerd 'H'? what does it mean? I am guessing it means a week HSDPA signal since I only get it when there are no signal bars.
My signal isn't as good as before (Tytn II on t-mobile)...
I'm still on t-mob but HSDPA connections and general reception indoors isn't as good as it was...
Just need to cents from those who have TP2. I got my phone from Telus (Canada) and couldn't have been more happy with the phone..............except. I get home and have little to no reception? I went from the Mike network to PCS. Two of my kids have cheap phones on telus and get at least one bar and most of the time 2-3 bars in our house.
On my Mike I was getting full bars all the time. On the TP2 I was getting 0-1 bars?????? Standing beside my daughter, she was getting 3 bars and I was getting only 1? In the first two days I was missing calls. They would go to my voice mail even with the phone on. I called my cell from my home and the first 3 calls went to voice mail before the 4th went thru!! I went back to the store and they showed me how to do a tower release and then tower upgrade. It didn't help. The second time back to the store they tried to get me to exchange it for a blackberry. Side by side the blackberry was getting 2 more bars than my TP2? They got another new TP2 out and the reception was the same on it as mine! So it wasn't just my phone. With telus you have 48 hours to cancel your contract so I returned it.
Has anyone else had similar issues.
I have considered purchasing an unlocked TP2 and use it on the rogers network as my friend gets 3-4 bars in my house but again will the TP2 still only get 0-1 bars on rogers as well?
Any suggestions would be great.
P.S. In the short time I had the phone I was extremely pleased. Would love to try the touch diamond 2, but would have to ensure the reception before purchasing.
Thanks
There are actually threads on this and it's a mixed bag. Some people complain that they have poor reception and others say that they have good reception. And just like you the ones with poor reception compare it to other phones. But the same with those that say they have good reception. If I remember correctly one guy said he actually had more bars than on a sony experia and a blackberry.
It may just have to do with the Radio rom and could possibly be fixed by flashing the radio. Can't be certain though.
How do you do a tower release and then tower upgrade?
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How do you do a tower release and then tower upgrade?
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Yeah! First time hearing about that.
In my house I get 2 bars tops and sometimes 3 all this on 3G. Here and there I see 1 bar but that doesn't last. 3 bars on 3G runs just as fast as my WIFI in my house. Well it seems like it to me, but I would have to do a test. When I was using my Blackberry 8900 which is EDGE. I got 2-3 bars on that, but the connection (NET) was so slow in my house! Good thing I have WIFI when it comes to using the net on the BB in the house. Calls were fine so that wasn't a problem at all.
That's the worse when you have bad reception in the house! The place where you spend most of your time.
my g1 which is on WCDMA only gets 2 bars
while my TP 2 has 1 bar
luckily the TP 2 has excellent wifi reception with my home router..
so i cant complain
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How do you do a tower release and then tower upgrade?
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The Telus rep told me that when cell phones have more than one tower in range, the phone will drop the weakest signal and connect to the strongest one. She said that sometimes phones won't release until the signal it is on becomes to weak to receive then it drops it to search for another signal.
I don't have the instructions with me right now, but any telus rep should be able to tell you how to do it.
I think ????? it was *22803, listen to message, then 1, listen to message, then 2, then wait for confirmation.
I will post back when I find the instructions.
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It may just have to do with the Radio rom and could possibly be fixed by flashing the radio. Can't be certain though.
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I was nervous about flashing a new rom in the event I had to return it. Guess I should have searched the forum more as I loved the phone, but couldn't live with missing calls while at home. I tried to have "call forward on not answered" put on my account but I was told that option was only available on business accounts and also it wasn't available in Ontario. I tried calling customer support a couple of times hoping to get someone who know how to get me that option with any luck.
if this is of any help; within the last 5 years I've used the Dash 1 (S620) the Dash 2 (S630), Wing (P4350) and now the TP2.
For my specific, the TP2 is equal to (or slightly better) than those past phones in the reception catagory.
All - upgraded from the TILT, aka Kaiser (which was flashed with a Sleuth ROM btw) to the AT&T Tilt2. I was using the stock ROM that AT&T ships on it, but was having wierd issues with the call reception. The voices seemed to cut out here and there, and were garbled.
After an hour and a half with Customer Care, they're shipping me a new phone. I was curious if anyone else was having the same issues with a TILT2.
When I swapped my SIM card back into my TILT all of the reception issues (same # dialed, same AT&T menu I listened to 4 times) went away.
Bad phone perhaps?
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All - upgraded from the TILT, aka Kaiser (which was flashed with a Sleuth ROM btw) to the AT&T Tilt2. I was using the stock ROM that AT&T ships on it, but was having wierd issues with the call reception. The voices seemed to cut out here and there, and were garbled.
After an hour and a half with Customer Care, they're shipping me a new phone. I was curious if anyone else was having the same issues with a TILT2.
When I swapped my SIM card back into my TILT all of the reception issues (same # dialed, same AT&T menu I listened to 4 times) went away.
Bad phone perhaps?
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A bunch of us have complained about voice quality, voices sounding muffled. I have a replacement phone arriving tomorrow.
It seems that with each new generation the reception is getting worse in HTC phones. My Tilt held onto 3G and calls in my basement pretty well, didn't drop very much. My FUZE has noticeable worse service but was able to hold onto 3G in my basement. My Tilt2 can't even hold 3G and I have to switch to 2G in my basement. Very disappointing.
Tilt Reception
I am coming from a Fuze and have great reception with my Tilt2 in comparison. I could never get any reception with the Fuze and complained enough until ATT gave me a Tilt2 for $99.99. I flashed an Energy Rom and the latest Radio and it makes a huge difference over stock rom. Stock rom I got 1 bar, flashed radio/rom 3 to 4 bars! Awesome!!
I flashed a new radio and my car turned into a BMW!
No reception problems here... Or muffled, or low sounds from the earpiece...
DrumTJE - Which radio did you use?
I'm contemplating flashing myself - as the replacement phone today has hte same issues. Using field test, I can see about a -101 to -103 dbm strength from the towers. (To access it - *#*#364#*#* on the phone - can't use a saved contact though for it). I'm charging my Tilt to see if I can get a comparible number, or if it just seems to pull the signals in better.
Thanks for any information you can give me...
petard said:
It seems that with each new generation the reception is getting worse in HTC phones. My Tilt held onto 3G and calls in my basement pretty well, didn't drop very much. My FUZE has noticeable worse service but was able to hold onto 3G in my basement. My Tilt2 can't even hold 3G and I have to switch to 2G in my basement. Very disappointing.
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I find it the opposite. I have my original tilt, fuze and tilt2. At my cabin which is in a fringe ATT coverage area only my tilt 2 works reliably. I am lucky to get 1 bar most the time inside my cabin on the tilt or fuze and can do only txt messages but not calls on both. I have 2-3 bars and can make calls on the Tilt 2 in the same spots. This is by far the best reception HTC phone I have owned.
Even more interesting...
On my TILT, I'm getting -97db, and -98db usually, where the TILT2 is getting -100db to -101db. They change a little here and there, but no huge swings in the readings. Seems to me, from the evidence in front of me, that the TILT seems to work 'better' with a smaller signal.
I'm curious if a different radio will make things all that much better for me at this point.
I've gotten 4.49.25.17 - though I think I still need an additional file to be able to use the radio. (I know I need to Hard-SPL the phone first, then I can flash the radio - which I may do for giggles tonite to see apples to apples.)
Drum - hopefully you'll respond with the radio you're using, and if so - if you needed an additional file once you flashed it or if you just flashed the later 25.17 radio and whallah (after a turn-off/turn-on of course).
Thanks, as always.
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On my TILT, I'm getting -97db, and -98db usually, where the TILT2 is getting -100db to -101db. They change a little here and there, but no huge swings in the readings. Seems to me, from the evidence in front of me, that the TILT seems to work 'better' with a smaller signal.
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How are you measuring the db's for the signal? Cold you post a CAB if it is a program?
Not sure if this is related, but my Tilt changes from 3G to E to G often while I am in a call... is that a reception issue or just a bandwidth issue on the ATT towers?
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On my TILT, I'm getting -97db, and -98db usually, where the TILT2 is getting -100db to -101db. They change a little here and there, but no huge swings in the readings. Seems to me, from the evidence in front of me, that the TILT seems to work 'better' with a smaller signal.
I'm curious if a different radio will make things all that much better for me at this point.
I've gotten 4.49.25.17 - though I think I still need an additional file to be able to use the radio. (I know I need to Hard-SPL the phone first, then I can flash the radio - which I may do for giggles tonite to see apples to apples.)
Drum - hopefully you'll respond with the radio you're using, and if so - if you needed an additional file once you flashed it or if you just flashed the later 25.17 radio and whallah (after a turn-off/turn-on of course).
Thanks, as always.
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So first, -100db is a pretty poor signal. And the difference in -97 to -101 dbi is pretty nominal when you're talking about a low power cell signal.
And lower is better. -37 dbi is about the lowest most phones register that I'm aware of. I've never seen better than -37, anyway.
@Sphinx - no cab, sorry... Enter field test mode with the phone using the phone dialer and enter in the characters above... (the *#*#364#*#*)
Agreed - 100db is VERY low. But - apples to apples, my TILT was just fine. The TILT2 with the original ROM and Radio stunk.
Of course -the Energy ROM with the later radio seems to be working much better... Time till tell.
Thanks!
I'm having better luck so far with my Tilt 2. Had good luck with an 8525 at work. Moved to a Fuze and had issues with calls at work. Even tried different radios and found one that worked better but not much better. So far, the Tilt 2 is much better for me.
I was pretty worried before getting a call and the voice was clear.
I am using HTC 4.49.25.17 with Energy Rom Photon.
Even without the 'correct" rilphone.dll I get great reception
Hope this helps!
4.49 works awesome!
I am also using 4.49 radio with energy rom photon and my data and call quality are soooooooooo much better that the stock rom and radio.
@Drumtje - thanks for the info - I'm now using exactly what you are and while the quality has improved quite a bit it's still not the same as what I had with the standard TILT. I'm tempted to try a couple more radio's just to see what they do, though I'm not thrilled with the constant changing... I'm looking for stability here, and the ability to make calls without not hearing who I'm calling. I have had to reset the phone a number of times too once I loaded that ROM due to some freezing, but that might have to do with the activsync issues I've been having (and have finally resolved thru syncing only with bluetooth).
I'm also a little bummed out that the field test application in the standard factory rom's is not in the Energy ROM's. It was in the Sleuth ROM I used for the TILT though - which was nice because it gave hard data on the cell towers and the signal strength. It might make radio testing easier if we had that code in a CAB file.
my reception is fine but where ever i get low reception or it tends to switch from H to E alot i just turn off 3G and E holds strong for phone calls...but usually area that switch back and forth i dont usually need highspeed though i stay in the bayarea so theres few area that tends to switch back and forth between E and H
hope that helps
Mine is working really well. I have min 2 bars and it's holding 3g strong too. Better than my fuze was.
my reception is actually really good with the stock radio. Download speeds are fast too. It all depends on where you live I guess.
Seeing as there was interest, I went and dug up an .exe that you can put on your phone, run it, and see the Field Test data. If there's a Chef around who can convert it into a cab, that'd be nice. Otherwise, I think I uploaded it correctly as an attachment to this post.
It's working on my EnergyROM Proton fitted tilt.
drumtje - I'd be curious as to what your RSSI 1 reading is... (That's signal strength). Also - how many towers are you connecting to (above that in the readout - it'll give you the tower ID plus the signal strength of that tower).
guys .I have poor reception with htc onex .
The reception is exactly the same as sensation .
how is your reception ?could you please compare your reception with onex and your previous phone ?
I have a DHD as well as the One X. Both get poor reception in my house, so I have a Vodafone Sure Signal to boost it. But without the SS, I would say that the One X is very similar to the DHD, both vary from "no signal" to 3 bars out of 5. The signal fluctuates so rapidly that it's hard to do decent comparison, even with the phones side by side, but neither goes above 3 bars, and most of the time I have 1.
Worth bearing in mind, though, that the DHD is 18 months old and has had several radio updates in that time. I can't be sure now, but I think reception in the house was worse when I first got it. Hopefully the One X will see radio improvements as well in future firmware updates.
Thanks for reply.so its not only me with poor receptions
Well, I live in a bit of a mobile black spot. There's good signal just up the road, on very slightly higher ground. I've tried sim cards from all the main UK networks and they're all about as bad as each other. So it's not really the phone's fault - my brother's iPhone has the same problems when he's here.
But to answer your original question about comparing this to my old phone, the One X is about the same as my DHD, and I have hopes it may improve as HTC release newer radio software.
I'm lucky that work provided a Sure Signal (femtocell) device to get round the problem, as I'm sometimes on call and need to be reached on my work mobile.
mine is much worse than my DHD on T-Mobile (UK - 1800Mhz)
Today I noticed that the signal on my hox is worse than on my old desire. On places where my desire got constand hsdpa the hox switches constantly from hsdpa to 3g with less signal bars. Anyone else with this problem ?
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Same here, I now have to go outside my office to be able to make calls that dont drop. With my SG2 would get full bar in my office, but with HOX only get 2bars
Yup mine seems the same, stumbled upon this thread looking for a solution so hopefully someone who has some success resolving the issue will be able to help.
I'm having this issue too, hopefully when s off has been achieved we will be able to flash different radios it has fixed this issue on all of my previous phones.
My phone also seems to have a somewhat weaker 3G reception than my SGS-2, although they both act in the same way in regards to switching between 3G and H+ all the time. I think this can be corrected partly via software updates since the wifi reception is much stronger on the HOX than any unit I ever had before. It is the same "antenna" the receives both signals isnt it?
Mine seems to get faster 3G speeds than my Gnex and GS2 (unless my network has improved in the past 2 week)
But phone signal is far worse, especially since the 1.28 update... I'm not getting signal now in places where I used to always get signal
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My data speeds have dramatically decreased after the latest 1.28 update - quite dissapointing! I have no use for better signal if the data is worse lol
Have been lurking on here for a while now and noticed a few threads and comments about reception on the One X
I am in the same boat, was using a Desire S and now a One x and noticed there is a distinct difference in signal level between the two. Not just the signal bars (desire s has 4, One x has 5) but the dBm levels too.
I would say that 80% of those that have had the update and posted about signal have said that it has improved, regardless of carrier they use.
I went into the store where I bought mine from (ThreeUk Retail shop) and they were going to swap it out there and then for me but the handset on display (working demo) had a similar level to mine, so seemed pointless as Im guessing that all/most of the units are like this, it isnt an isolated case.
So, im not sure what to do now. I have just swapped my main number to Three (and its now my only number). Im without coverage far more than I used to be with Voda, or with Three using the Desire S.
Three shop says they have a 28 day policy for faulty handsets, I hope that the update is out before that so I can see for myself.
Brilliant handset though…. screen is lush, using the phone is a pleasure…. just brilliant.
Steve
I am noticing far worse signal on my handset than previous handsets , an awful lot of the time my handset switches between t-mobile and orange , whereas previous handsets were solid t-mobile all day , and also the data speeds are worse. I am not very impressed as the 1.28 update appears to have made this worse, and its an unlocked generic variant in the uk if thats of any help
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james
My signal is loads better.
Before the update I couldn't sit on the sofa and make a call I would get 3bars then nothing.
Now I'm a fairly constant 4 bars sat on the sofa.
I'm on Tesco (so O2) I was going to take the handset back before the update.
Battery seems twice as good on a completely different note.
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I have had a similar experience as descb600f. Prior to 1.28 my signal would drop regularly. After 1.28 I am finding it is far better, regularly seeing 3 bars, where before it would continually switch between 0 and 2 bars.
WiFi reception is great, puts my Desire to shame!
So which is it, does 1.28 make signal alot better or not? And what about actual call quality, its one thing getting 3 bars but another if calls are choppy
I do have to agree with the signal/Wifi issues on this device.. I came from a Nexus S (GSM model) and I used to get good HSPA/UMTS signals on that device, I also have a Wifi network setup in my house, it covers most of the house and some of the backyard.. However when out in the backyard the One X seems to drop the connection to the Wifi network, however my old Nexus S still has atleast 2-3 bars of Wifi connectivity and constantly keeps the signal/connection.
Has anyone else had issues like this with Home Wifi networks not getting as great a signal as other devices?
If I hold the One X in one hand and the Nexus S in the other and move away from the Wifi Access Point, the One X drops signal strength a lot quicker and the Nexus S keeps connection/signal a lot further away..
Bit dissapointed with that, and hope it's some how able to be fixed with software/firmware upgrades in the future?
Also I noticed the One X seems to switch between H/3G (HSPA/UMTS etc) quite a lot more than the Nexus S does, same network, holding both in same spot..
Apart from these minor issues and the screen flickering issue I'm more than happy with the One X..
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I think this can be corrected partly via software updates since the wifi reception is much stronger on the HOX than any unit I ever had before. It is the same "antenna" the receives both signals isnt it?
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WiFi and 2G/3G are two different chipsets and different antennas.
I have also notices dropsin the last 3 days, including hours with no reception at all
Need to switch from 1.26 to 1.28 soon to try it...
I should say I live in an area with only 2G reception and we sit in a dip partially hidden from the transmitters.
We can only get O2/Voda (orange/TMob if I just want to live upstairs in a corner of the house) and since the update I now have no issues with reception just like I used to.
1.28 has resolved my issues.
On the wifi front
I live in an old stone cottage with timber frame extension (wifi b/g can't make it thru our internal walls in the old part of the house), I have the N wifi router upstairs in the extension and have no issues with losing WiFi either (didn't have issues before 1.28).
Hope this helps people, I realise some may say it has got worse but for me the difference is night and day making the phone completely fine.
I just found an old 3 SIM (from a dongle) and popped it into my desire s and placed both by the window running Network Signal App for 30 minutes.
Both were attached to the same tower and the HOX was getting between -89 and -91 dbm, the Desire a consistent -75dbm.
Just hope that Three shake their touche's and get the update approved ASAP…. im quite a technical guy, but the idea of rooting and doing the update myself gives me the shakes…..
Steve