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REQUEST for all rom DEVELOPERS(wm5,6)

I had flashed my universal with windows mobile 6 and saw many new thing in it but wm6 is not even in beta i mean its not work ok.And its not good for the ones that want to use pocket pc programs .
I want all developers to get some of the useful pocket pc stuffs from wm6 to wm5 aku3.5, for example the great remote desktop, the new media player(ivan test 2 had wm6 mediaplayer), email client and .....
thanks i hope you realese the new version off your rom very soon (with wm6 apps)

nice.. I WANT ALL developers to give me a million dollar each

LOL!!!....

I must try that approach for things that I want on my partner and see what she says... although I have a fair idea!

MediaPlayer, RemoteDesktop and Mail Client in WM6 works PERFECTLY! We don't need to rewrite it or corrupt compatibility.

onlineemails, was it really necessary to spam a link for this thread everywhere?
Pointless and irritating.
Anyway, why mess around trying to get apps out of WM6 into WM5, when you could spend that time making WM6 better?

AlanJC said:
onlineemails, was it really necessary to spam a link for this thread everywhere?
Pointless and irritating.
Anyway, why mess around trying to get apps out of WM6 into WM5, when you could spend that time making WM6 better?
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I whole heartedly agree. Why bring new to old when we can make new better?

onlineemails said:
I had flashed my universal with windows mobile 6 and saw many new thing in it but wm6 is not even in beta i mean its not work ok.And its not good for the ones that want to use pocket pc programs .
I want all developers to get some of the useful pocket pc stuffs from wm6 to wm5 aku3.5, for example the great remote desktop, the new media player(ivan test 2 had wm6 mediaplayer, email client and .....
thanks i hope you realese the new version off your rom very soon (with wm6 apps)
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I can see where you are coming from. Having dipped my toe in the Crossbow pool, there are bits I'd quite like in a WM5 ROM, but that's just down to the developers.
However, I think you find that Ivan's Test2 EMail client isn't the one in the Crossbow ROM.
I'm sure as time goes on, we might get more confident as users, and we might be able to pick and choose components to put in our own ROMs.
Cheers,
Steve

havoc99 said:
I whole heartedly agree. Why bring new to old when we can make new better?
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Wm6 in not compatible with many programs.and its not even out for beta,ITS NOT AN STANDARD WINDOWS

striimii said:
MediaPlayer, RemoteDesktop and Mail Client in WM6 works PERFECTLY! We don't need to rewrite it or corrupt compatibility.
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i dont mean to change wm6 apps to wm5. i mean getting wm6 programs in wm5

StevePritchard said:
...I'm sure as time goes on, we might get more confident as users, and we might be able to pick and choose components to put in our own ROMs...
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I agree. I still have a hell of a lot to learn about ROM editing (like how not to destroy "initflashfiles.dat" every time I try to do anything) but as someone who likes my ROM's "Vanilla" flavoured, I'm always stripping stuff out of them, and they usually continue working...
I've even managed to find things to take out of Midget's ROM - Now we just need Buzz or Mamaich or someone to figure out how to re-partition the DOC, and I'll have enough storage space for a load of my own useless stuff!

So it's time for Request ?
If HTC or Microsoft could send to our super developpers the last build

poussin69 said:
So it's time for Request ?
If HTC or Microsoft could send to our super developpers the last build
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I dont think developers need the packages from microsoft when they have wm6 rom,

Lol, yeah. They might as well send us Photon as well, while they're at it.
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poussin69 said:
So it's time for Request ?
If HTC or Microsoft could send to our super developpers the last build
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Yeah remind them to include the source code to. lol

onlineemails said:
Wm6 in not compatible with many programs.and its not even out for beta,ITS NOT AN STANDARD WINDOWS
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wrong.
it is past beta, its in RTM allready, yes it is a standard windows - dunno where you got that from

Midget_1990 said:
wrong.
it is past beta, its in RTM allready, yes it is a standard windows - dunno where you got that from
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I agree with Midget. So far all applications used have been compatible with WM6 for me. Except the oZVGA program where some icons and visual things begin to be missing.

Infidel said:
I agree with Midget. So far all applications used have been compatible with WM6 for me. Except the oZVGA program where some icons and visual things begin to be missing.
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thats because you need to install them, use my cab in /uploads/universal/midget_1990 on the ftp

Midget_1990 said:
thats because you need to install them, use my cab in /uploads/universal/midget_1990 on the ftp
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Thanks midget you mentioned that earlier to me. sorry for cutting short on your name.
The problem is occuring on Infidels ROM while using oZVGA and not your ROM.
I think that CAB will also work on Infidels ROM and fix the oZVGA issue XD.

i coudnt run Flexmail ,pocket informant,Yahoo go and.....
I think these programs are very usual.

HTC's Touch with TouchFLO -- the Elf with new 3D sweep interface

See: http://www.engadget.com/photos/htcs-touch-with-touchflo-the-elf-with-new-3d-sweep-interface-1/
Beautiful interface. I wonder if this is what the official HTC WM6 'look and feel' will be?
Anyone know which applications are running on the Today Screen?
David

www.htctouch.com - that gives you a better idea of the interface (and the added functionality).
Can't wait to get TouchFLO shoe-horned into a Hermes!

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HTC just made their "major" announcement. Are you ready for it... wait... it's the Elf now official with its "Touch" street name. Right, the Windows Mobile device we first saw six months ago and already formally announced by 02 Germany as the Xda nova. HTC's big surprise? Well, the Touch is the first device to feature TouchFLO touchscreen technology "developed by HTC" -- though we think Microsoft had a little something to do with it. It's not multi-touch like the iPhone, but it does offer a "new and unique" way to sweep a finger (or stylus) across the screen to control the 3D interface. To recap, the diminutive 99.9 x 58 x 13.9-mm Touch runs Windows Mobile 6 with TouchFLO UI on a 2.8-inch display and OMAP850 processor while packing tri-band 900/1800/1900 GSM with EDGE, 802.11b/g WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0, 1GB microSD expansion included, and a 2 megapixel cam. Best of all, it's available now in the UK, later this month around Europe and Asia, and then North and Latin America in the 2nd half of the year.

I particularly like the new Today Screen. Attached

and guess who has made the new commmgr:
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=34470&st=1560#entry801866
our friend lvsw

What is new?? Really poor site HTC put togeather to present this. A simple youtube video with someone using the interface would atleast have explained the gui...
Finally did see a litte about how the gui works, looks very nice, question is how "deep" this interface goes, is it like SPB Mobile Shell or more integrated, you still have to use a stylus to enter text etc, right?
Any hardware reason we could not be seeing this in cooked rom from some of the talented chefs here?

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, it looks simply but great power "inside", I'm loving it !!!!!! ^^

jompao said:
What is new?? Really poor site HTC put togeather to present this. A simple youtube video with someone using the interface would atleast have explained the gui...
Finally did see a litte about how the gui works, looks very nice, question is how "deep" this interface goes, is it like SPB Mobile Shell or more integrated, you still have to use a stylus to enter text etc, right?
Any hardware reason we could not be seeing this in cooked rom from some of the talented chefs here?
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Take a look at http://www.htctouch.com/ .....
Not so poor

jcespi2005 said:
Take a look at http://www.htctouch.com/ .....
Not so poor
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Aha! So they have also copied iphone scroll up and down with the finger in lists etc.. ;-) I like it, bring it on chefs.. Ps. I think I read somewhere that Jas had an Elf...

please someone port this badboy interface to the hermes, quick!

bludshot said:
please someone port this badboy interface to the hermes, quick!
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Yesssss please!

Nice website they have going on there but some of the pop-ups block the navigation arrows. One has to find another pop-up that will pop-up somewhere else which is not blocking the arrow.
Anyways, here's to hoping one of our great Chefs here cook this Touch interface into our beloved Hermes.

TI OMAP
Not sure about the TI OMAP processor - was a bit of a dog on the Wizard !!

jcespi2005 said:
Take a look at http://www.htctouch.com/ .....
Not so poor
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Very nice... we will have to see if the chefs can port the UI from the ELF. Very exciting times!
The new builds due from LVSW and JJ will for sure have the comm manager part but lets see if there´s any other suprises...

christonge said:
Very nice... we will have to see if the chefs can port the UI from the ELF. Very exciting times!
The new builds due from LVSW and JJ will for sure have the comm manager part but lets see if there´s any other suprises...
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sure someone extract the new HTC Touch interface and if possible, pack for our dear Hermes.....

The today plugin
Yeah! Could someone post that today plugin!!?

Naa... Sry guys but a phone without HDSPA or 3G is not more than a little brother of our beloved TyTn. But I agree on the interface part. Looks very smart and I hope someone can rip it to our Phoney; The Beloved Mr T....
Price will be half the price of a TyTN - but it may be an upcommer for a later relaease with some more connex power...maybe a TyTn 2
Lets pray: A TytN like device with that interface, a better screen, a better processor, ram etc and the new Nvidia graphics processor...yummi.

cybertron said:
and guess who has made the new commmgr:
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=34470&st=1560#entry801866
our friend lvsw
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What is that saying? I can't read Russian. Is that d/l link on the site a version of Hermes Rom with Touchflo??

tallshorty said:
What is that saying? I can't read Russian. Is that d/l link on the site a version of Hermes Rom with Touchflo??
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no the hermes doesnt have touchflo...

This is really nice, but again no keyboard.

WM 6.5 now has Checkboxes, Push Button, Radio boxes, etc. like WM 6.5.x

Am not sure if this has been introduced or not, but fir the first time since wm6.5.x, i have used a wm 6.5 build and have found this trick on trial.
For many of us using the WM 6.5 is just like WM 6.1 with minor updates, but using WM 6.5.x steps ahead in Graphical User Interface. Well now it possible to have WM 6.5 to have similar Graphic Customizations that you see in WM 6.5.x such as, Check Boxes, Push Buttons, Radio Boxes, etc. Have a look at the screens below, the top images are default WM 6.5 looking but the bottom images are Graphically customized like in latest WM 6.5.x Builds.
Read more on this HERE
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^^ wow nice, have u a cab?

Long long time to search this. Thanks man.

nice find....gud for 6.1 users...

what cool thing is that the push buttons never showed up at all places in wm6.5.x but in wm6.5, using the same resources, the push buttons show everywhere. will be working on finding what makes them not work in wm6.5.x. if any1 has an addon then sure let me know.

Isn't this already widely known? I used a 6.5 EnergyROM that had them skinned like that.

petard said:
Isn't this already widely known? I used a 6.5 EnergyROM that had them skinned like that.
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am not sure. cud be possible. but it was 1st time i tried wm6.5 build since 6.5.x was launched and found this. it wasnt mentioned anywhere so i posted. does ny1 has a reqson y those push buttons show on 6.5 but not on 6.5.x??

You just need the proper GWES.EXE file. I think 23047 had the best GWES file.... It went away for a while and I just reused my 23047 version.
I'm pretty sure it is standard in later builds because I don't think I still use it. But aside from requiring the graphics, you need the GWES.EXE file.
From the article, it appears that the later WM6.5 GWES.EXE supports the themes but the files are missing (basically). So you just need the image files and a theme that calls to them.

player911 said:
You just need the proper GWES.EXE file. I think 23047 had the best GWES file.... It went away for a while and I just reused my 23047 version.
I'm pretty sure it is standard in later builds because I don't think I still use it. But aside from requiring the graphics, you need the GWES.EXE file.
From the article, it appears that the later WM6.5 GWES.EXE supports the themes but the files are missing (basically). So you just need the image files and a theme that calls to them.
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true. but has anyone tried a wm 6.5 gwes.exe on 6.5.3?? i'll do that as soon as i get free this weekend. but if any1 knows it then let us know.

Checkboxes look bad as they are the same size as the text next to them. This was fixed a long ago in 6.5.3, but in 6.5 it is still present.
I am using 21882. Can anyone confirm that on 21888 (or 21889) it was fixed?

Mr. Makk said:
true. but has anyone tried a wm 6.5 gwes.exe on 6.5.3?? i'll do that as soon as i get free this weekend. but if any1 knows it then let us know.
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no need to port gwes.exe
just use recent wm65 builds .. works definitly with build 21882 +21885
i use these themes with items skinned like in wm653 - looks great
livven SimpleGloss

nosedive said:
no need to port gwes.exe
just use recent wm65 builds .. works definitly with build 21882
i use these themes with items skinned like in wm653 - looks great
livven SimpleGloss
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And YES, works great also using 21884 build

I use it since 21869
I noticed the following problems:
1) checkboxes appear stretched vertically, if text consist multiple lines
2) In some older programs skins buttons overlap pop-up
But in general looks very good

LikvidatorMax said:
I use it since 21869
I noticed the following problems:
1) checkboxes appear stretched vertically, if text consist multiple lines
2) In some older programs skins buttons overlap pop-up
But in general looks very good
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yes. i face similar issues. but that maybe cause wm6.5 does using these icons but not of same resolutions. thats y.

Mr. Makk said:
yes. i face similar issues. but that maybe cause wm6.5 does using these icons but not of same resolutions. thats y.
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me too......

venuva said:
me too......
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still no1 able to find d soln??

ny soln??......

only M$ can help now

[REQ] Naked, barebones WM 6.5.3 ROM.

To any active Hermes ROM cookers. Could you please do a naked, barebones, WM 6.5.3 ROM and just concentrate on having as much free RAM as possible.
No front end like Sense, SPB, PointUI. Doesn't even need Office. All these things can be added. Just the basic functions like SMS, Bluetooth, need to be stable.
If there are any cookers still left out there this is what the remaining users REALLY need and want.
You will have the undying gratitude of people from disparate parts of this world.

I need something like that too. Most recent OS with working camera, bluetooth and infrared. No need for programs like office or messenger. If I need them I will install them later.

Yeah, that would be great!

ok will do..

I agree with all this...And i don't even need wm 6.5.3, maybe a good 6.1 and 6.5 Hybrid
would do the work, as long as it has 28MB or more ram...All of the other things are
installable so we can have what we want...And yes there should be .net CF

I don't have a wm6.1 kitchen yet

It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...

Well, I'm trying to cook half-naked 6.5 (NOT 6.5.3, the large menu are useless on 2.8") with the basic things directly in the ROM (the really usefull things will probably install itself via PreConfig and will be uninstallable/upgradeable) - I want as much RAM as possible and stability. This "model" worked for me perfectly on 6.1
But I can't cook much in the week (school). And few things in the kitchen I use (SJK) is are broken ... maybe I'll try to fix it myself, we'll see.
But I can share with rest of you, when I complete it. But I'll be cooking it for myself, so it will be under No Whining "licence".

psycho84 said:
It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...
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I see where you're coming from. Though in some sense we have a naked 6.1 ROM with CRC's, though this still gives me problems.
It is true that some things I like to use just don't work with 6.5.x but there has always been a severe lack of vanilla 6.5 ROMS and before all the Hermes ROM cookers go to that great ROM cookers place in the sky, it would be nice to have a one.

Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed

glenest said:
Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed
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I used Dark Visions 5.0 final when it first came out and tried it again later but always ran into terminal problems i.e with the bluetooth.
I was hoping he would release a Dark Visions 6.0 that he mentioned he had finished but it looks like he's also gone to the Great Rom Cookers resting place.
I am just about to try out the one kindly done by MrDSL to see if this meets the criteria...

glenest said:
Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed
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I haven't tried it but i am having a thought on doing that because crc's 13.5
rom is giving me a bit trouble last few days...It is one of the best rom there is
blazing fast and pretty good on ram, but i had a few phone freeze (not whole
phone but some of the graphics frozen and i could still receive calls and so).
But i wonder if things like pim organizer (very useful tool) and Morphgear still
works on Darkvisions v5.0?

MrDSL said:
ok will do..
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thank you in advance, MrDSL.

I have a barebones 2g 3g, and the SE unleash lite has 28MB cause it dont has anything you can search lil more in... XDAroms.com

+ Que PPC said:
I have a barebones 2g 3g, and the SE unleash lite has 28MB cause it dont has anything you can search lil more in... XDAroms.com
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It's not clearly labeled on XDARoms.com because I can not see any of the ROM you mentioned.

MrDSL said:
I don't have a wm6.1 kitchen yet
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dump crc's 13.5 with the ervius kitchen and you have an awesome 6.1 base! I dummped both his naked and full, then used the naked as my base, and added the things I wanted.

psycho84 said:
It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...
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I underline your posting and your wish. I've the same idea. DarkVision goes in that direction.
And for more finger friendlyness, exists a great "old" tool FTouchflo - since the days of the great GERMAN ROMs of Schap... :
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Thanks to all the cookers, the last weeks is more "action" here, many new Roms to play with it.
Maybe, one day, I cook my own german mixed ROM... if I've the time, to give my Hermes to my mother, who isn't an english-speaker...

You can use V29 23060 lite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680

Thanks keraunos, I'll try this, maybe again, I've forgotten how this ROM was, and if I can open Opera without problems or memory shortings, like in the big Manila 2D Versions. I don't like Versions, where the Manila every time starts again, when I switch from another opened program.
Better perfomance in 6.5 oder 6.1+6.5 mixed Roms has the SPB Mobileshell GUI, or others.
But I like trial and error in testing roms. I think it's a good idea, to write down, which I've tested, and wich was fine for me, cause my brain memory is obviously full...

For me is the best rom until other beter will be release.

[Q] Windows 7 Mobile Standalone Project

Ok, so Wisbar Advance Desktop is great for making a Windows 7 theme, but for me there just aren't enough options to actually do a great job in imitating the Windows 7 OS. So, I was wondering why nobody has made a standalone app of Windows 7 for windows Mobile?
If I had the knowledge, I would program one, but I can only make graphics in photoshop.
In case of confusion, I don't mean a port as I know that is impossible, but a recreation of windows 7 using images, sounds, scripts, custom apps that windows 7 app would understand and run within that program would be the best thing windows mobile 6.5 could ever see .
Any views on this??
Obviously, it would be a fairly big app, no bigger than running wisbar advance desktop with a theme installed though, but the app could be cooked into a rom with all the other crap removed so there's lots of memory for windows 7 mobile to run.

I think this is the best [App] TodayXLive v1.0.0.3 BETA TEST

esberlat said:
I think this is the best [App] TodayXLive v1.0.0.3 BETA TEST
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Hi but that is a Windows Phone 7 theme, not Windows 7 Mobile. I've made a quick first screen shot of how Windows 7 Mobile would look at a WVGA resolution:
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Windows Media Player running - This would actually be a custom made app using Windows Media Player graphics/ skin (windows 7 style) using coreplayer API scripts to have the full functionality as coreplayer such as wider format support. The app would be made to overlap the windows 7 mobile app interface to give the illusion that Windows Media Player is running on the desktop .
This would give a true feel of having 'light weight' windows 7 OS on a mobile device.
If you hold down with your finger, you can access the menu just like how it would look on windows 7 and put the video in full screen. I'd love to be able to use the desktop as a go-between for switching from one app to another such as to winamp or a file explorer.
You guys probably think "why don't you just buy a 4 inch tablet running windows 7??" Simply because, the full windows 7 OS doesn't run well on tablets and isn't optimized for touch.
As you guessed, I'm a windows freak, and not a windows mobile fan lol. Please if anyone can shed any light on this idea, please give your input. I'd be interested to know how much it could possibly cost also (any problems with this moderators, feel free to edit).
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I use remote desktop, it's the best windows 7 port for the TP2

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I use remote desktop, it's the best windows 7 port for the TP2
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Remote desktop is cool, but you have to be on wifi network or 3G in order to use it and also your remote desktop (your PC) would have to be free and have noone working at it. Besides, windows 7 just isn't practical to run on a small screen as you can only see a 10th of the desktop area whereas a mobile version would be optimized for a small screen. A theme just doesn't give the same feel as once you fire up an app on the phone, you're back into the windows mobile interface so you're no longer in a windows 7 desktop. Unfortunately, it seems this has always been the case for wisbar advance. Of course, you'd have to create modded apps to run on the desktop. Only one which already exists is winampaq and works very well but don't have windows media player.

Tozzy2 said:
Remote desktop is cool, but you have to be on wifi network or 3G in order to use it and also your remote desktop (your PC) would have to be free and have noone working at it. Besides, windows 7 just isn't practical to run on a small screen as you can only see a 10th of the desktop area whereas a mobile version would be optimized for a small screen. A theme just doesn't give the same feel as once you fire up an app on the phone, you're back into the windows mobile interface so you're no longer in a windows 7 desktop. Unfortunately, it seems this has always been the case for wisbar advance. Of course, you'd have to create modded apps to run on the desktop. Only one which already exists is winampaq and works very well but don't have windows media player.
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if you have more than one user account you can connect to one while the person is using the other, but it kinda fills the RAM if you have very limited resources

well once you peel the skin it's the fugly WM interface again...do you think HTC and Sammy have not tried that idea? :-D

husam666 said:
if you have more than one user account you can connect to one while the person is using the other, but it kinda fills the RAM if you have very limited resources
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Thanks very much for that, I never knew. I have 4GB and my family only use for browsing the internet so that leaves loads of RAM for me

Tozzy2 said:
Thanks very much for that, I never knew. I have 4GB and my family only use for browsing the internet so that leaves loads of RAM for me
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you should be fine with that, a running user account takes about 500-700 MB of ram

x2h said:
well once you peel the skin it's the fugly WM interface again...
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Exactly . It's not a sight for sore eyes lol. I think Microsoft failed badly when they designed WM.
do you think HTC and Sammy have not tried that idea? :-D
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What went wrong? I've just been looking at a ROM with 145MB free RAM, plenty of space for a stripped down win 7 to run in replace of the WM start menus and grids etc. Then all it needs to run over the top of it are the well known familiar apps such as WMP window image using coreplayer scripts replace the need for coreplayer, a yahoo messenger to replace palringo. It's been tried before?