Does a Linux on Rhodium project exist ?
If not, are there some compatible distros ?
well, it would have to be out for the hackers to start tinkering with. Rest asured that once it is the people here at XDA-dev will be hard at work trying to get android running smothly on it.
Poke_N_PDA said:
well, it would have to be out for the hackers to start tinkering with. Rest asured that once it is the people here at XDA-dev will be hard at work trying to get android running smothly on it.
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Can Android support 800x480 resolutions. I haven't been following up the Android system but most handsets I've seen only support HVGA.
given the fact that they have it running on the touch HD i would say yes it does support it, just companies beleive that more than HVGA is not necessary!
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given the fact that they have it running on the touch HD i would say yes it does support it, just companies beleive that more than HVGA is not necessary!
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Yeah, it really does work but very buggy. It's looks cool tho. Never thought of installing the Android on the HD. Hope it will finalised so I can try it. If it works on the HD, then maybe it will work for the TP2
well viperbjk is almost at par with jtag and then we can write successful commands on the nand memory of blackstone aka touch hd. once it is done .. the developers will follow up a quckie guide on how to install android on the touch hd. since xmooo, left the project in between ... it has been a dead and for the end users like me and us .. who have only less knowledge of things we wish to learn ..
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well viperbjk is almost at par with jtag and then we can write successful commands on the nand memory of blackstone aka touch hd. once it is done .. the developers will follow up a quckie guide on how to install android on the touch hd. since xmooo, left the project in between ... it has been a dead and for the end users like me and us .. who have only less knowledge of things we wish to learn ..
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Yeah, I was reading the discuss thread, it was so long, I only read every other page and saw a lot work done by xmooo... he left the project? I saw the videos he has made and it looked like he was so close to finishing it. What a shame. Hope someone will find a way to finishing the project with cupcakes. I only found out today that this project was going on... I want to find out more now. The only thing that stopped me from getting the magic was it's screen res. Now I know I can get the Android on HD, I getting excited about it being on the TP2.
As Android gets further along in life I'm sure it will become much easier to install on 3rd party phones. Right now it's just a bit of a headache. The tools have to be developed and put in place to handle the wide range of hardware. It's not like PCs where that work has already been largely done. I wish it was as simple as download ubuntu and installing it on a desktop is, but it's not. Someday I think it will be.
So is there any update on developing/porting linux to Rhodium?
Is it possible now for Rhodium to run Angstrom/GPE/Openmoko/Debian, etc?
I would prefer proper linux over Android because of the closed userland of the latter.
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Saw this right after posting: Angstrom running on Touch Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzZRxEgu440
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So is there any update on developing/porting linux to Rhodium?
Is it possible now for Rhodium to run Angstrom/GPE/Openmoko/Debian, etc?
I would prefer proper linux over Android because of the closed userland of the latter.
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Saw this right after posting: Angstrom running on Touch Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvF5wiasSg
A comment says Angstrom can also run on Touch Pro 2. How?
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The video you posted was to VRHologram, not Angstrom on a Touch HD.
As for Android: they devs are working on it, but AFAIK they're still trying to get it to boot. It'll be slow going for a while, but hopefully development will pick up once they get it booting. I personally would love to see a Maemo or Debian distribution for the Rhodium, but we don't have many developers, so it'll probaby be Android for a while. At least once they get the hardware supported in HaRET, other distros should be much easier to run.
Thanks for the update. I have already corrected the youtube link.
Although I enjoy debian on my Universal, I would jump to Rhodium in a heartbeat as soon as it runs debian (or any of its variants). The form factor of Rhodium is just more enticing.
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I have managed to run Android 1.5 "cupcake" on my Dell Axim x51v!
You can see the video on my blog:
http://axdroid.blogspot.com
And HOW exactly did you get it to work???
DON'T post JUST the video without telling others how to get it, ESPECIALLY if its someone else's work!!!
Unless of course you are the developer of this whole project, and informing us of your progress.
Anyhow we need the installation instructions with download links. Hopefully you didn't have to use that tedious linux installation from Handhelds.org (with all of that SD card modifications) and then run Android on top of it. I definitely see that you are using HARET BOOT 0.5.2 to switch between OS's, which what all devices use.
Any idea why Wifi doesn't work, and not everything is being displayed in VGA correctly??? Android supports VGA natively.
By the way, would this work on X50v? this is what i have.
All in all, by the looks of it, very interesting and very promising!
It's a perfect way to avoid filesys.exe
I will post the details when I am ready. This is just to tease you
Currently it's only me working on this project. Of course I used some knowledge gained by other porting efforts like handhelds.org etc...
I am using a vanilla linux kernel 2.6.27, on which I have applied Android patches and wrote the necessary driver codes for Dell Axim.
Right now it won't work on x50, but it's not hard to make it work too, just a few lines of driver initialization codes I guess.
I don't have it, so I cannot test for it.
Currently it only works through Haret and boots from the SD card. I think installing this as the primary ROM is the last thing to do, when there's more progress like WiFi, power management, bluetooth etc.
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And HOW exactly did you get it to work???
Any idea why Wifi doesn't work, and not everything is being displayed in VGA correctly??? Android supports VGA natively.
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I have not yet worked on WiFi. It may be the hardest part of this effort actually. We'll see...
Actually everything is displayed in VGA and the GUI looks very good, it's very clear. It's just that the background image is not scaled to the whole screen.
AxDroid - Android on Dell Axim x51v!
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my question will be short:
FOR WHAT?? Oo
oh, ok, so you are using Linux as its base. Then why would it also not work on x50v considering that they both run Linux at about same stage, as far as touchscreen, booting, buttons etc...
Also like i said i really don't understand how to format SD card and to set it up properly for linux to run. I would prefer some easy instructions before i screw it up.
What worries me neoMJ is that so many people have tried it working on the device on these forums, and at the end gave up or abandoned the project because of so incompatible drivers. The linux project over at handhelds.org has been dead for along time, and they never got Wifi working. As for Kaiser, it took them like only a few weeks to make it fully functional.
nothin, actually it could be very useful if it was as fully functional as it is on some HTC devices. I honestly hate windows mobile right now because of filesys slowdown, and haven't used x50v for long time. I use ipod touch mostly. You can't get rid of filesys, but you can avoid it by running an alternate OS. Anyways if he can get WiFi to work, the possibilities are endless. (i have Ubuntu Linux installed on PS3, and you can do alot with it with a bit of tweaking) I just don't know how far would this project really go.
i wish you good luck, really, it is great in general, if you are succeded.
i did not want to discourage anyone..
sorry for writing.
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Say -can you help Lenny out with video and cf card drivers for axim x51v running windows mobile 6.5?I believe Lenny is a mod here but has his own site too htcgeeks
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my question will be short:
FOR WHAT?? Oo
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For fun
pezo1 said:
Say -can you help Lenny out with video and cf card drivers for axim x51v running windows mobile 6.5?I believe Lenny is a mod here but has his own site too htcgeeks
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I am not sure about that. Linux and Windows Mobile are pretty different actually.
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What worries me neoMJ is that so many people have tried it working on the device on these forums, and at the end gave up or abandoned the project because of so incompatible drivers.
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Yeah, that's the problem of reverse engineering. We don't have the specs of the hardware. I have some spare time these days, but I can't promise how far this project will go. It's just fun for me and I like sharing.
Looks really good. Also have an Ax x51v, so would be interested in seeing how this project pans out. Would like to give it a go myself.
Good luck and success!
This is the best linux port on X51v I've even seen. only thing is the wifi / bluetooth connectivity to be concerned. Or this can be the best mobile browser. I have only the X50v and hope I can test this out very soon.
hmm, very nice work..will it also run on a old axim x5 ...would be nice to get that old but fast dude back to work??
Very good work !
For Wifi, HP 4700 seems to use the same chip and Wifi is working under Linux. Maybe this is a way to get Wifi working ...
Looks really promising good luck with the project and have some fun with it.
I cant wait to try this for myself!!!
What happened???
So, what happened NeoMJ? You built up so much hype with your video all around the web, and now you are giving up just like others just like that??? The way u never posted us with a single update for the whole month, tells me that. NOT COOL MAN! Not cool at all.
Anyways, the original video shows that u had everything working well anyways. So, why not send us your beta builds? we need those, unless NeoMJ, u can tell us why u think your beta build is not ready for prime time yet (don't worry about working Bluetooth and Wifi yet)
So, u said u have a working X50v built. Can u send me that please? Ill be definately willing to test android on my device. I'm sure nothing worth will happen other that reformating my SD card, if something goes wrong.
So, please respond to my message. If not, than STOP WASTING MY TIME AND OTHERS!!!
Thank you.
He's releasing an experimental image soon and maybe even the source code!
http://axdroid.blogspot.com/
Hopefully it will work on my X50V
neoMJ where are u
neoMJ hello?????where are u?????
Give it for test....
Thanks anyway..........For that project.
released!
First AxDroid alpha image for dell x51v released!
Thanks.
http://axdroid.blogspot.com/2009/07/first-axdroid-alpha-image.html
Hi,
I believe time has came for us to think about a new port of Doom for Windows Mobile as newest one is 4 years old and just doesn't work nicely on newer devices
Features that should be added to make it better than any other port:
1. Custom wad support
2. Dehacked patches and/or Decorate support (if we want a really cool things to see
3. Based on ZDoom (ZBlood and other great mods waiting...)
4. Nicely designed launcher app
5. Skinable in game UI (making life easier)
6. Hardware keys support with easy to use keymapper (come on, even Symbian has it!)
7. Hardware video rendering (we do want a smooth thing, yes?)
8. Bluetooth mouse support (not vital, but it does exist on Palm port)
9. More to come
So, who would like to help? I am absolute noob on programing, but I promise to donate and support in any way nescesary!
So, nobody wants to take this job (I could pay for that) or at least support the idea?
I'm not sure, you want a doom engine for windows mobile??
Yes, I want a port of one of the Doom's advanced engines (you know, Zdoom, Vanilla Doom, Doomsday and so on..) for Windows Mobile that would have nice UI, work well on new devices and have at least a part of advanced features of original Windows port
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Yes, I want a port of one of the Doom's advanced engines (you know, Zdoom, Vanilla Doom, Doomsday and so on..) for Windows Mobile that would have nice UI, work well on new devices and have at least a part of advanced features of original Windows port
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that is quite demanding
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that is quite demanding
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Well, I guess you are right, sorry. But full modification WAD and Dehacked patches or Decorate support would make port awesome! Many other things I have mentioned were already used in other handheld ports, so why that couldn't be made for Windows Mobile? I guess zdoom would be the best base for the port as it have all features nescesary and source code is released. So what do you think?
Anybody?? I even looked for a freelancer to hire for this job, but after looking at the fees they ask I almost screamed!
I'll help build it if someone is paying.
Whats the project worth to you? I will do it for the right price. In the middle of developing a module player right now. Also you want hardware acceleration... so my question is, what devices and screen sizes do you want to use? I would prefer WVGA only and targeting touch pro 2/touch 2 or later. Let me know how eager you are to get this thing going. If a lot of people want it to happen we could set up a bounty for it.
XDA is about sharing and collaborating with others on projects that will benefit all members. You are permitted to place a "donation" link in your signature for those who wish to send a little "something".
Soliciting payment to perform development (port or other) is not permitted on the forum ... reason being that from our past experiences, the project is never completed and the funds are never returned to their originators.
Thread closed.
There's a way to completely remove Windows Mobile and have only Android?
Thanks
edit: Oh in HTC diamond!
Afraid Not. You cannot, as far as i know, eliminate Windows. You can check the status of the android threads.
As for the diamond porting, there hasn't been enough work. I want to also, but even i dont have enough time to hang around the android porting threads to give support. So...
One. Becoz' those who port are busy with their own work
Two. Newer devices have grasped more attention.
But the Kaiser thread is going strong. So you can had over there. It will provide some hope and also an actual working Android
HI EVERYONE
IS THERE ANY WAY TO USE TWO OS IN DEFY?
I MEAN WM7 AND ANDROID OS !
THE POINT IS IF YOU CAN LAUNCH EACH OS AT WHAT THEY GOT YOU CAN UNLIMITEDLY USE DIFFERENT TYPE OF GAMES AND THEMES AND MULTI USE ONCE .
EVEN DEFY HAS ALL THE GREAT POWER TO USE THEM AT ONCE.
Since the Bootloader is still locked, I don't really think it works. After all, the only device I know can run both Android and WM7 is HTC HD2 which seem like supported by HTC.
HI SWAT AXEL
NO, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WINDOWS MOBILE DEVICES CAN RUN ANDROID, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. A WINDOWS MOBILE OS CAN'T BE USED ON AN ANDROID PHONE BECAUSE OF IT'S HARDWARE, IT JUST WORKS ON WINDOWS DEVICES.
that would be nice
thanks for reply , but if you have checked (cydia)in iphone it has (fake os) feature that allows to use android , and i still believe there is a way.
i hope we can reach that point.
Yes, I would also love it to work, but in an other forum I read that that's not possible (sorry, I don't have the link right now) because of the hardware.
But who knows, maybe a dev can do that with a trick or so.
(I clicked accidentaly the "thanks" button, I hope it does't annoy you )
Hello,
Did someone ever try to upgrade the Tilt 2 for Windows Phone 7? I saw in the HTC site that is not possible, but I trust more on you guys....
tks!
Do you know how to use the lovely "Search" feature?
How many times has this been answered... NO WE CANT RUN WP7 on our phones
oohhh... tks for the tip about the search... I don't know how I survive without it...
No will never happen...its just not good enough hardware to run it...
WC
You can't just say wp7 isn't good enough for our devices? I've checked out the "surround"...it can have wp7 for all I care
you misunderstand, it's that this phone doesn't meet the hardware requirements for windows phone 7.
What about flashing the htc with android? Instead of loading the linux boot loader and android os on the sd card?
I'd love to make this phone more of an android phone then a dual booted device. Haven't seen it yet. Was hoping it would be possible.
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What about flashing the htc with android? Instead of loading the linux boot loader and android os on the sd card?
I'd love to make this phone more of an android phone then a dual booted device. Haven't seen it yet. Was hoping it would be possible.
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We can't really do this yet because not all of the android builds are stable enough to be flashed to the tilt
Why would you want to DOWNGRADE to wp7. I have tried it and it doesn't matter about the hardware concerns because the software is so ridiculous that I would never use it again
WP7 is a huge step...in the wrong direction.
hypothetically even if you could get wm7 on it, its a slow processor, low ram and no captive touch screen. even if it did work, I would just stick to 6.5 because it would still be much more useable.
Video of Windows Phone 7 on Touch Pro 2; Could this be possible and usable?
I saw a video on youtube of a Touch Pro 2 with Windows Phone 7 (7.3 I believe, I don't know much about WP7 at all), and I have exchanged a message with the ROM creator, and he claims that a version will be ready in December.
Here is a quick link to it: (I can't post a link yet, sorry about the spacing between http)
h t t p://youtu.be/WRBYvvKRKG0
I wonder if apps can be installed, and wheter or not they're actually usable.
Please look into someone, if you can! =)
Thanks a lot.