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I have managed to run Android 1.5 "cupcake" on my Dell Axim x51v!
You can see the video on my blog:
http://axdroid.blogspot.com
And HOW exactly did you get it to work???
DON'T post JUST the video without telling others how to get it, ESPECIALLY if its someone else's work!!!
Unless of course you are the developer of this whole project, and informing us of your progress.
Anyhow we need the installation instructions with download links. Hopefully you didn't have to use that tedious linux installation from Handhelds.org (with all of that SD card modifications) and then run Android on top of it. I definitely see that you are using HARET BOOT 0.5.2 to switch between OS's, which what all devices use.
Any idea why Wifi doesn't work, and not everything is being displayed in VGA correctly??? Android supports VGA natively.
By the way, would this work on X50v? this is what i have.
All in all, by the looks of it, very interesting and very promising!
It's a perfect way to avoid filesys.exe
I will post the details when I am ready. This is just to tease you
Currently it's only me working on this project. Of course I used some knowledge gained by other porting efforts like handhelds.org etc...
I am using a vanilla linux kernel 2.6.27, on which I have applied Android patches and wrote the necessary driver codes for Dell Axim.
Right now it won't work on x50, but it's not hard to make it work too, just a few lines of driver initialization codes I guess.
I don't have it, so I cannot test for it.
Currently it only works through Haret and boots from the SD card. I think installing this as the primary ROM is the last thing to do, when there's more progress like WiFi, power management, bluetooth etc.
Xdenwarrior said:
And HOW exactly did you get it to work???
Any idea why Wifi doesn't work, and not everything is being displayed in VGA correctly??? Android supports VGA natively.
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I have not yet worked on WiFi. It may be the hardest part of this effort actually. We'll see...
Actually everything is displayed in VGA and the GUI looks very good, it's very clear. It's just that the background image is not scaled to the whole screen.
AxDroid - Android on Dell Axim x51v!
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my question will be short:
FOR WHAT?? Oo
oh, ok, so you are using Linux as its base. Then why would it also not work on x50v considering that they both run Linux at about same stage, as far as touchscreen, booting, buttons etc...
Also like i said i really don't understand how to format SD card and to set it up properly for linux to run. I would prefer some easy instructions before i screw it up.
What worries me neoMJ is that so many people have tried it working on the device on these forums, and at the end gave up or abandoned the project because of so incompatible drivers. The linux project over at handhelds.org has been dead for along time, and they never got Wifi working. As for Kaiser, it took them like only a few weeks to make it fully functional.
nothin, actually it could be very useful if it was as fully functional as it is on some HTC devices. I honestly hate windows mobile right now because of filesys slowdown, and haven't used x50v for long time. I use ipod touch mostly. You can't get rid of filesys, but you can avoid it by running an alternate OS. Anyways if he can get WiFi to work, the possibilities are endless. (i have Ubuntu Linux installed on PS3, and you can do alot with it with a bit of tweaking) I just don't know how far would this project really go.
i wish you good luck, really, it is great in general, if you are succeded.
i did not want to discourage anyone..
sorry for writing.
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Say -can you help Lenny out with video and cf card drivers for axim x51v running windows mobile 6.5?I believe Lenny is a mod here but has his own site too htcgeeks
nothin said:
my question will be short:
FOR WHAT?? Oo
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For fun
pezo1 said:
Say -can you help Lenny out with video and cf card drivers for axim x51v running windows mobile 6.5?I believe Lenny is a mod here but has his own site too htcgeeks
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I am not sure about that. Linux and Windows Mobile are pretty different actually.
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What worries me neoMJ is that so many people have tried it working on the device on these forums, and at the end gave up or abandoned the project because of so incompatible drivers.
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Yeah, that's the problem of reverse engineering. We don't have the specs of the hardware. I have some spare time these days, but I can't promise how far this project will go. It's just fun for me and I like sharing.
Looks really good. Also have an Ax x51v, so would be interested in seeing how this project pans out. Would like to give it a go myself.
Good luck and success!
This is the best linux port on X51v I've even seen. only thing is the wifi / bluetooth connectivity to be concerned. Or this can be the best mobile browser. I have only the X50v and hope I can test this out very soon.
hmm, very nice work..will it also run on a old axim x5 ...would be nice to get that old but fast dude back to work??
Very good work !
For Wifi, HP 4700 seems to use the same chip and Wifi is working under Linux. Maybe this is a way to get Wifi working ...
Looks really promising good luck with the project and have some fun with it.
I cant wait to try this for myself!!!
What happened???
So, what happened NeoMJ? You built up so much hype with your video all around the web, and now you are giving up just like others just like that??? The way u never posted us with a single update for the whole month, tells me that. NOT COOL MAN! Not cool at all.
Anyways, the original video shows that u had everything working well anyways. So, why not send us your beta builds? we need those, unless NeoMJ, u can tell us why u think your beta build is not ready for prime time yet (don't worry about working Bluetooth and Wifi yet)
So, u said u have a working X50v built. Can u send me that please? Ill be definately willing to test android on my device. I'm sure nothing worth will happen other that reformating my SD card, if something goes wrong.
So, please respond to my message. If not, than STOP WASTING MY TIME AND OTHERS!!!
Thank you.
He's releasing an experimental image soon and maybe even the source code!
http://axdroid.blogspot.com/
Hopefully it will work on my X50V
neoMJ where are u
neoMJ hello?????where are u?????
Give it for test....
Thanks anyway..........For that project.
released!
First AxDroid alpha image for dell x51v released!
Thanks.
http://axdroid.blogspot.com/2009/07/first-axdroid-alpha-image.html
Does a Linux on Rhodium project exist ?
If not, are there some compatible distros ?
well, it would have to be out for the hackers to start tinkering with. Rest asured that once it is the people here at XDA-dev will be hard at work trying to get android running smothly on it.
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well, it would have to be out for the hackers to start tinkering with. Rest asured that once it is the people here at XDA-dev will be hard at work trying to get android running smothly on it.
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Can Android support 800x480 resolutions. I haven't been following up the Android system but most handsets I've seen only support HVGA.
given the fact that they have it running on the touch HD i would say yes it does support it, just companies beleive that more than HVGA is not necessary!
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given the fact that they have it running on the touch HD i would say yes it does support it, just companies beleive that more than HVGA is not necessary!
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Yeah, it really does work but very buggy. It's looks cool tho. Never thought of installing the Android on the HD. Hope it will finalised so I can try it. If it works on the HD, then maybe it will work for the TP2
well viperbjk is almost at par with jtag and then we can write successful commands on the nand memory of blackstone aka touch hd. once it is done .. the developers will follow up a quckie guide on how to install android on the touch hd. since xmooo, left the project in between ... it has been a dead and for the end users like me and us .. who have only less knowledge of things we wish to learn ..
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well viperbjk is almost at par with jtag and then we can write successful commands on the nand memory of blackstone aka touch hd. once it is done .. the developers will follow up a quckie guide on how to install android on the touch hd. since xmooo, left the project in between ... it has been a dead and for the end users like me and us .. who have only less knowledge of things we wish to learn ..
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Yeah, I was reading the discuss thread, it was so long, I only read every other page and saw a lot work done by xmooo... he left the project? I saw the videos he has made and it looked like he was so close to finishing it. What a shame. Hope someone will find a way to finishing the project with cupcakes. I only found out today that this project was going on... I want to find out more now. The only thing that stopped me from getting the magic was it's screen res. Now I know I can get the Android on HD, I getting excited about it being on the TP2.
As Android gets further along in life I'm sure it will become much easier to install on 3rd party phones. Right now it's just a bit of a headache. The tools have to be developed and put in place to handle the wide range of hardware. It's not like PCs where that work has already been largely done. I wish it was as simple as download ubuntu and installing it on a desktop is, but it's not. Someday I think it will be.
So is there any update on developing/porting linux to Rhodium?
Is it possible now for Rhodium to run Angstrom/GPE/Openmoko/Debian, etc?
I would prefer proper linux over Android because of the closed userland of the latter.
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Saw this right after posting: Angstrom running on Touch Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzZRxEgu440
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So is there any update on developing/porting linux to Rhodium?
Is it possible now for Rhodium to run Angstrom/GPE/Openmoko/Debian, etc?
I would prefer proper linux over Android because of the closed userland of the latter.
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Saw this right after posting: Angstrom running on Touch Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvF5wiasSg
A comment says Angstrom can also run on Touch Pro 2. How?
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The video you posted was to VRHologram, not Angstrom on a Touch HD.
As for Android: they devs are working on it, but AFAIK they're still trying to get it to boot. It'll be slow going for a while, but hopefully development will pick up once they get it booting. I personally would love to see a Maemo or Debian distribution for the Rhodium, but we don't have many developers, so it'll probaby be Android for a while. At least once they get the hardware supported in HaRET, other distros should be much easier to run.
Thanks for the update. I have already corrected the youtube link.
Although I enjoy debian on my Universal, I would jump to Rhodium in a heartbeat as soon as it runs debian (or any of its variants). The form factor of Rhodium is just more enticing.
Hey all,
I was wondering if there is a possibility to port WP7 apps to WP6.5.3? I was thinking about WP7 versions of Skype and all those things.
Thanks,
MadMatt
No. The frameworks, etc. are completely different and not supported on 6.X
Personally, I would be more interested in doing it the other other way, AKA current 6.1,6.5 etc apps to WP7....
Too much invested over the years with apps to just dump...but, that's just me...
I am actually quite happy we cannot do WM -> WP ports in a flash as that would make for a bunch of half assed ports showing up.
Being forced to rewrite [more of] it means you actually spend time on doing it right rather than a quick hack to get it running.
What is a little distressing is the fact a lot of low lever functionality is missing/blocked though and if anything I'm hoping we will get access to these sooner rather than later. While being able to intercept incoming calls or text messages may not sound like a big deal it is extremely versatile from a coders perspective.
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No. The frameworks, etc. are completely different and not supported on 6.X
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Wasnt there the Frameworks (XNA and Net 3.7) ported to wm6.5.x?? In another thread on this forum?
Im also not having hope for a fully working port of wp7 on my device. but I can remember one of the early statements of MS where they said that apps can easily be proted to older (paralel windows phone 6??) devices.
i think they meant that if you coded an app purely in .NET4 for WP you could re-use a lot of your code (almost certainly your basic classes at least) and relatively easily re-work it to .NETCF3 for WM6.X
My catalogue of WM apps is the only thing stopping me from making the just to be honest.....i couldn't live without my tomtom app etc for long
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Wasnt there the Frameworks (XNA and Net 3.7) ported to wm6.5.x?? In another thread on this forum?
Im also not having hope for a fully working port of wp7 on my device. but I can remember one of the early statements of MS where they said that apps can easily be proted to older (paralel windows phone 6??) devices.
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OHH so you like apps that just crash then go ahead and do it but if you want apps to work at acceptable speeds STOP BEING AN IDIOT GET A WP7 DEVICE. WM 6.5 FAILS IN TERMS OF SPEED EXCEPT HTC HD2. BUT IF YOU ENJOY NOKIA-LIKE CRASHES GO AHEAD AND TRY WP7 3D APPS ON WM6.5 IF U LIKE SLOW
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OHH so you like apps that just crash then go ahead and do it but if you want apps to work at acceptable speeds STOP BEING AN IDIOT GET A WP7 DEVICE. WM 6.5 FAILS IN TERMS OF SPEED EXCEPT HTC HD2. BUT IF YOU ENJOY NOKIA-LIKE CRASHES GO AHEAD AND TRY WP7 3D APPS ON WM6.5 IF U LIKE SLOW
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Just relax please. I'm not that idiot that I want a heavy 3D application on my WP6.5 device. I was thinking about apps like Skype
HI EVERYONE
IS THERE ANY WAY TO USE TWO OS IN DEFY?
I MEAN WM7 AND ANDROID OS !
THE POINT IS IF YOU CAN LAUNCH EACH OS AT WHAT THEY GOT YOU CAN UNLIMITEDLY USE DIFFERENT TYPE OF GAMES AND THEMES AND MULTI USE ONCE .
EVEN DEFY HAS ALL THE GREAT POWER TO USE THEM AT ONCE.
Since the Bootloader is still locked, I don't really think it works. After all, the only device I know can run both Android and WM7 is HTC HD2 which seem like supported by HTC.
HI SWAT AXEL
NO, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WINDOWS MOBILE DEVICES CAN RUN ANDROID, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. A WINDOWS MOBILE OS CAN'T BE USED ON AN ANDROID PHONE BECAUSE OF IT'S HARDWARE, IT JUST WORKS ON WINDOWS DEVICES.
that would be nice
thanks for reply , but if you have checked (cydia)in iphone it has (fake os) feature that allows to use android , and i still believe there is a way.
i hope we can reach that point.
Yes, I would also love it to work, but in an other forum I read that that's not possible (sorry, I don't have the link right now) because of the hardware.
But who knows, maybe a dev can do that with a trick or so.
(I clicked accidentaly the "thanks" button, I hope it does't annoy you )
Been a while since I did any hacking it was mainly on the WM platform, WP7 has been limited to keeping my DVP up to date. So forgive me if I ask some redundant questions. I searched and can't seem to find the info I am about to ask.. I did try.
First off has anyone successfully ported a WP7 phone to WP8 ? I searched and couldn't find the answer anywhere. If there is a thread I missed maybe it should be stickied..?
Also is something different about the DVP..? I can not seem to find any Root tools, etc.. that say they work on the DVP. So if Porting to WP8 is available can I get it on a DVP ?
Any way to make 7.8 read as Mango. I have realized a few apps that work on 7.5 and 8 do not recognize 7.8 and won't work on it.
Anyone know why apps on WP8 won't work on WP7 or 7.8..? Are there legit reasons or is MS just blocking them..? I ask because maybe we could trick the programs into thinking we are running 8 when we are running 7.8 wihtout having to actually have 8 installed.
Thanks for all the help and answers.
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Been a while since I did any hacking it was mainly on the WM platform, WP7 has been limited to keeping my DVP up to date. So forgive me if I ask some redundant questions. I searched and can't seem to find the info I am about to ask.. I did try.
First off has anyone successfully ported a WP7 phone to WP8 ? I searched and couldn't find the answer anywhere. If there is a thread I missed maybe it should be stickied..?
Also is something different about the DVP..? I can not seem to find any Root tools, etc.. that say they work on the DVP. So if Porting to WP8 is available can I get it on a DVP ?
Any way to make 7.8 read as Mango. I have realized a few apps that work on 7.5 and 8 do not recognize 7.8 and won't work on it.
Anyone know why apps on WP8 won't work on WP7 or 7.8..? Are there legit reasons or is MS just blocking them..? I ask because maybe we could trick the programs into thinking we are running 8 when we are running 7.8 wihtout having to actually have 8 installed.
Thanks for all the help and answers.
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And one more reason that I believe because of which wp8 apps won't work on previous devices is because, Microsoft allowed wp8 marketplace apps to be programmed in c to keep more developers coming unlike wp7 which runs Silverlight apps fine..and does not run apps programmed in c by third party developers without policy unlock..
Guys, I've been busy to upgrade my HTC HD2 from WP7 to WP8 and it was successful... mostly
Only thing I cann't get working is Zune or wpbackup; no connection.
wifi / data no problem; marketstore works fine
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21988711&postcount=1876 and have fun!
@ErikH000
Not WP8 but WP7.8