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Hi Everyone,
I'm very worried about all I've eared recently on coming WM7
No cut/paste
No multitasking
No Storage card management
And a MarketPlace build on the Itunes-Jail-Model...
So my question is :
Won't we do something to stop that ?
Would someone start a petition saying that if Microsoft keep going this way, we'll all move to Android !
Maybe I'm just dreaming, but if XDA display this petition everywhere, we might grow fast and make some noise. It's not too late.
What do you think ?
from what I heard everyone at MIX10 loved WP7, as the majority of people will. We are just bunch of freaks. Even XDA camp is split up, at least half of people dig it as well.
It is high time WinMobile moved forward. Donno if Windows Phone 7 is the way to go, but I think the WM interface never really worked when touch screens came in.
As for opening it up, well I agree MS should make it as easy as possible for people to develop for free. Unfortunately it probably won't be, at least for a good while yet which is huge shame.
MS will want to make money from it, and gain market share and for now that means locked down with Apps Store route. Hopefully they will open it up for free developers in time or they will never gain anything over the options.
Won't we do something to stop that ?
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Don't you think they WANT us to TALK about it, until REAL thing will come out...
It looks like weird advert campaign.
But funny, that people who bought their HD2 were simply fooled.
Few millions there, another there...pure FUN.
Honestly, I'd say there's roughly zero chance of XDA or anyone else being able to change Microsoft's mind on these issues prior to WP7 launch. They thought long and hard about all these things and know some of the decisions will make a certain amount of developers and tweakers unhappy, but really they're focused on creating a revolutionary UX, and to do so they need to control certain things more than before. If you've seen the demo apps from MIX hopefully most will agree it's worthwhile pain for the expected gain.
Microsoft isn't turning it's back on the WM dev community though - the tools for developing on WP7 are excellent (so long as you're already doing managed code at least), and now all free. It's impressive the things you can do with Silverlight/XNA/Blend on WP7.
Richard
Man, i much more worrying about that there isn't a release for the Leo, because it has too much buttons (what an idiot reason!!!!). I bought my Leo for wm7. I veryvery disappointed in microsoft. I going to move to Android!
Man, i much more worrying about that there isn't a release for the Leo, because it has too much buttons (what an idiot reason!!!!).
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..because this is not a reason.
This is game about getting attention.
Very, very strange way of advertising, to be honest.
They are sure, that people will buy ANOTHER 500+$ device just to get their feeble bs. Ridiculous.
(personal opinion).
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I bought my Leo for wm7.
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Name it, lol. This is exactly same thing as Kaiser and its drivers(if there is someone who remember these times - users were told they will get DRIVERS...yeah, right - people did not learn, i assume).
I am not against progress - I am against stupidity and fooling people.
g'night.
pupakota said:
I am not against progress - I am against stupidity and fooling people.
g'night.
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Well I agree, there is so much available which is good for wm5, wm6 etc but wp7 with new start should open up even more possibility of graphically rich and media centred experience. In theory that is.
Look at the development between wm5 and wm6, hardly anything in how long? Hopefully it will be updating interfaces only for wm7, spb and htc have both realised that people want more eye candy than wm could provide.
I love windows mobile but I like the iPhone package, only because it appears to work. But I wouldn't buy an iPhone because there might be an app for everything, but with wm there's a free app for everything. (Although not when big companies forget about wm!)
If WP7 is free to develop on, using MS tools, then fingers crossed the draw of fast fancy graphics and features will bring back developers from iPhone only apps. No doubt MS will extract their pound of flesh first but hopefully it won't end up locked down like the iPhone.
Then again, there may only be fancy graphics in WP7 and no substance or power left for anything else, but without WP7 don't you think WM would end up being shelved (and where would the little apps go then? somebody think of the apps). Perhaps Android is the future!
Also, why do they hate hardware buttons, give me a D-pad back please! If want to flick my fingers around I'd take up tiddlywinks.
im sure WP7 will be quite a success, you need to remember that most phone users are not enthusiasts like us. What the general public want and what we want are very different criteria. See how popular Iphone is!
I see no problem with WP7 not having
No cut/paste
No multitasking
No Storage card management
there is already WM 6.5 that does have these things and there is no wait until its released because we already have it.
Maybe in the future when no more WM 6 devices are produced we will have a tough choice on picking a new device, or maybe people will cook 6.5 for the WP7 handsets (upgrade with older version ha ha)
There is nothing we can do. Even if whole xda makes petition or something, who cares about some stupid forum where geeks want do to something?
Also, why do they hate hardware buttons, give me a D-pad back please! If want to flick my fingers around I'd take up tiddlywinks.
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Couldn't agree more. Im suprised that they allow QWERTY.
Also where is competition here? What can phone vendors do to make their phone better? Most stuff is already standarized, so there will be bunch of same devices on market.
Personally I think they're taking all of the flexibility and breadth of applications away from the platform and moving towards the pointless "There's a crApp for that" mentality.
I won't be looking for a phone until towards the end of the year, I'll be taking a serious look at Android and WebOS at that time I believe.
MS won't change it's mind no matter what, they are trying the Apple approach, at least we still have Android, too bad cuz I loved WM...
The best petition is not buying wp7. Believe me..they will get that message real quick. It's not the end of the world. MS forgot that there'r other platform out there (Android).
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The best petition is not buying wp7. Believe me..they will get that message real quick. It's not the end of the world. MS forgot that there'r other platform out there (Android).
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well if they do mess up wm, then think what the combined effort could do with Android instead!
Seems everything nowadays (Not just Windows Mobile) is all about moving towards "locking things down", taking away the control from the regular people ala iphone style... and people seems to just accept it with a smile on their lips.
Companies are trying to control everything their employies (correct english?) do, trying to prevent them to use facebook at work and logs everything they do online... Seriously, what the f^** is going on??? Why not implement internet filters all over the world aswell? Buy the technology from China!
Soon when microsoft have killed windows mobile, android will be the only option for me at least...
Maybe Windows Phone series 7 or whatever they call it will be a huge success, but it's not windows mobile anymore, ok it's finger friendly but the OS will be as restricted as China itself. WM the way we like it will soon be history...
I will enjoy the freedom while it lasts and stick to current wm until I'll switch to Android...
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I won't be looking for a phone until towards the end of the year, I'll be taking a serious look at Android and WebOS at that time I believe.
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From what I've read WebOS is going bye bye. Palm will be switching to Android. Shame. I never used it but from what I've read it had great potential.
I am indifferent to WP7 till i use it myself. I am not upgrading anytime soon and am waiting for a the next step up from the Rhodium(in all aspects) be it an Android or a WP7.
WP7 will take time to work out the kinks. It might not cater to everyones needs at first but I have faith that it will one day be something only Fanatics and Apple Fanboys will hate. <GARTH>"We fear change!"</GARTH>
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Hope that, all of you guys, have signed the petition...
Of course it won't change Microsoft'sMind.
But "Who doesn't do, doesn't get"
It starts there....
dicast said:
The best petition is not buying wp7. Believe me..they will get that message real quick. It's not the end of the world. MS forgot that there'r other platform out there (Android).
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What do you imagine MS will do if no one buys WP7S? WP7S is the last roll of the dice. If it fails, MS will get out of the mobile device market completely.
Except that it will hardly happen, general public couldn't care less about jails and even breaking them.
I guaranty there will be loads of people who will buy it because they want xbox live and zune on their phones and I reckon I'll join them as I'm getting fed up of phones that suddenly start becoming stuttery randomly, or has bugs that I have to end up waiting for an operator to release their branded version of a to ROM fix because I don't want to void my warranty and basically I don't get the time to endlessly flash new ROMS these days.
But I'll still be hanging onto my WM6.5 HD2
Hello Folks,
I just wanted to chime in again to offer an "offending viewpoint" about the whole Dell debacle.
I personally think that we are looking at a situation similar to Samsung's here. Keep in mind that both these companies also do business with Microsoft on a much larger front, being desktops and laptops.
At last years MWC, Samsung delcared that it was fed up with WM and wanted to port the whole Omnia series to Symbian. They even showed off an Omnia HD - and gave it all up afterwards.
IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
P.S. Odd example is HP...
I don't really know what you're talking about, and it seems like a goose hunt to find the articles you're referring to. At the same time, I'm interested in what you're trying to say. Mind getting a few links and adding it to your post?
What Dell Debacle?
Why is Samsung so upset at MS, and they released the Omnia II with WM 6.5...it could have easily been Android?
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IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
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I really don't think so...
Spike15 said:
I really don't think so...
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Or the loooonnnngggg and ongoing battles with the EU. OP must've lost his tin foil hat. I guess he missed the fact that in the same batch of leaks also came several Android devices.
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Or the loooonnnngggg and ongoing battles with the EU. OP must've lost his tin foil hat. I guess he missed the fact that in the same batch of leaks also came several Android devices.
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Yea, the leaks did contain several Android devices, but he Lightning really stood out in the bunch. Best design of the 4.
krjcook said:
Yea, the leaks did contain several Android devices, but he Lightning really stood out in the bunch. Best design of the 4.
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So that means Microsoft is violating federal antitrust rules?
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Dell debacle
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What the hell are you talking about?
Dell is a good company and we forgot all about their mobile capabilities. These leaks have only made our confidence in Microsoft a touch better. WP7 may suck, but at least it's getting around and people aren't forgetting about it.
Hi,
sorry for the long awayness.
At last year's mobile world congress, Samsung openly stated: we are fed up with WM for consumer, and are moving our consumer series to Symbian. They then anounced an Omnia HD.
A few weeks later, it was renamed to i8910. Samsung's press team never told a good reason -> strange.
Should I look up the relevant articles on my site?
You want to look up your own articles on your own site?
Be my guest.
Hi,
here we go - the original announcement at last year's MWC:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/02/16/samsung-omnia-hd-hands-on/
Then, the renaming announcement:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/04/14/samsung-austria-talks-omnia-hd/
Looks strange to me...
Tam
They renamed it because they thought that consumers would get confused - Omnia HD contained the word "Omnia" and therefore buyers would assume they're getting WinMo when they're not. So they renamed it to prevent that confusion from happening.
As for Dell, the Dell Axims were running on WinMo. Then they left it for a while and now they want to release a new phone with WinMo on it. Nothing special or wrong about it.
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They renamed it because they thought that consumers would get confused - Omnia HD contained the word "Omnia" and therefore buyers would assume they're getting WinMo when they're not. So they renamed it to prevent that confusion from happening.
As for Dell, the Dell Axims were running on WinMo. Then they left it for a while and now they want to release a new phone with WinMo on it. Nothing special or wrong about it.
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Sounds very healthy to me...
....wait! No! We have to make a conspiracy out of everything! that's what xda is about now! Forget development!
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IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
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WP7 license pricing has already been leaked on sevearl blogs (like gizmodo.com)
It's not that expensive and far away from the desktop pricing.
How do people come up with crazy ideas like this?
Hi,
that WM7 is cheap, does not surprise me - I wouldnt want it for free on my XPERIA X1. In fact, I didn't even bother with WM 6.5.
But: then, explain me, why Samsung staff told me that they wanted to rebadge the whole Omnia series to Symbian, and that all future phones would be Symbian based?
Something else: Symbian was founded because Microsoft didn't want to give WIndows CE to Psion for free...another fun detail from the past...
Samsung announced their transition to Symbian when, last year? What did WP7 look like at that time? Why couldn't they change their minds? Also, why aren't you suggesting conspiracies when you see Android and Bada powered Samsung phones?
TAMHAN: You should see if MSMobiles wants an editor.
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TAMHAN: You should see if MSMobiles wants an editor.
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LOL. Sooo true.
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Something else: Symbian was founded because Microsoft didn't want to give WIndows CE to Psion for free...another fun detail from the past...
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You mean a company that exists to make money off of software didn't want to give software away for free?
Next you'll tell me that Nike isn't standing on the street corners handing out shoes for free!
What is this world coming to!?
Are you the guy who started the 'Elvis has been abducted by aliens' rumours by any chance?
<3 This is pretty funny.
Can someone point me in the direction of an article talking about when this update will be out? I want copy and paste really bad, it's frustrating without it.
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There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.
Reflexx1 said:
There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.
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Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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That is how all OSs start. We all should of known going in, but it is the best multimedia phone still.
The real update is scheduled for later this year and is called mango. Until then consider the os have done.
Paul Nur said:
Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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Well said sir, well said
MarcMaiden said:
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry
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Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!
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welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
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People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.
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best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry
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It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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If you look HERE you'll see they have OFFICIALLY announced the update - just not the exact date!
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People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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I just don't get this 'crappy' label? I have an HD2 (the best WM6.5 phone there is) and the HD7. Now agreed the HD7 is lacking a few features and GPS software etc BUT... and I have to stress this BUT.... it is only a few months old. Many users have only just got their WP unit and are moaning already!
It's absolutely pathetic. There are enough websites out there that will tell you everything about the WP phones - if you don't read them then if you don't like the phones it's your own fault! People go on about the iPhone being bug free and amazing - well that's taken years and it's hardly bug free (several of my mates installed the latest update and lost EVERYTHING off their phones when it bricked them!) - plus how great Android is... well that is wrong - it may be good (I love it on my HD2) but it is riddled with problems, slow down, programs that crash it etc....
If you don't like the WP OS then change your phone - the rest of us will wait a while for MS to give us updates and improve what is already a great mobile device!
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welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
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well buddy, english isn't my first language, so that's why i don"t want to comment on every topic
Paul Nur said:
Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Now you know how I felt about a month ago when MS announced the Aug/Sep massive update. And why my HD7...aka DesireHD7...is waiting for an Android ROM.
I put no trust or stock in MS. They aren't about consumer satisfaction. And they don't have the slightest concern about satisfying consumers.
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)
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It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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It's MS removing or disabling stuff, to make a supposed update more apparent and liked. Kinda like a car lot putting on a sale of 10% off the entire stock. But they previously increased the cost 15%.
I used to be able to add email folders, and added about three. Now I can't.
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Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)
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Like how I'm using my HD2 with a DesireHD ROM...or any other Android version I desire. Works well and is reliable. My DesireHD7 will be even better with Android.
Yeah, I know some will say it's immature but as someone who has jumped in front of a train of android fanboys time and time again defending all of my WP7 devices is getting harder and harder when it seems that not even Microsoft wants to take themselves seriously. If they don't begin to take themselves and us, the more intelligent userbase, seriously then I won't be taking them seriously and my 8 WP7 devices will be traded/sold off on craigslist for another unfortunate soul to pick up. I love the WP7 UI, absolutely love it. I don't know where to go after this to get a UI that's even 1/10th as good as the WP7 UI but this phone that microsoft more or less promised the world on is looking less and less so on a daily basis. If Microsoft doesn't stop taking us seriously... I don't know where I'll go for a phone OS because android is now too slow for me and Iphone screens are too tiny, but I will certainly take my rather spendy business elsewhere. I know the meager 2100 dollars I've spent on WP7 devices may not seem like much to a corporate giant like microsoft but that's more than most people are willing to pay in WP7's current form.
I don't blame you dude. Its getting ridiculous! Microsoft stated that the future updates for Windows Phone 7 would blow the Iphone and Android out the water... I was really excited by this as I had just picked up my Mozart, now 6 months on, no updates at all, nothing, zip! I have also been reading that NoDo will be the only update this year!?!?!
Yes I'm excited to have copy and paste on my device (something that should have been present in the first place) but Microsoft are missing a trick here! Yes this phone has a great UI but without getting the simple things right I can see it flopping. I'm also struggling with the accuracy of many of the Microsoft built in features such as Bing Maps, which can't seem to get me anywhere at all!
SORT IT OUT MICROSOFT!
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Yeah, I know some will say it's immature but as someone who has jumped in front of a train of android fanboys time and time again defending all of my WP7 devices is getting harder and harder when it seems that not even Microsoft wants to take themselves seriously. If they don't begin to take themselves and us, the more intelligent userbase, seriously then I won't be taking them seriously and my 8 WP7 devices will be traded/sold off on craigslist for another unfortunate soul to pick up. I love the WP7 UI, absolutely love it. I don't know where to go after this to get a UI that's even 1/10th as good as the WP7 UI but this phone that microsoft more or less promised the world on is looking less and less so on a daily basis. If Microsoft doesn't stop taking us seriously... I don't know where I'll go for a phone OS because android is now too slow for me and Iphone screens are too tiny, but I will certainly take my rather spendy business elsewhere. I know the meager 2100 dollars I've spent on WP7 devices may not seem like much to a corporate giant like microsoft but that's more than most people are willing to pay in WP7's current form.
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No blame here, either. In my case, I have an iPhone an HD2 and soon the Android equivalent of the iPhone: Nexus S, to keep my tech veins fixed.
In all honesty I don't know where to go from here though. May have to pick up another HD2. Android is too choppy for me and as much as I like the iphone with the WP7 theme the keyboard is too small.
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In all honesty I don't know where to go from here though. May have to pick up another HD2. Android is too choppy for me and as much as I like the iphone with the WP7 theme the keyboard is too small.
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Well I mean I'll be angry too, but wp7 as is, is still a fantastic device. You could just stay with it, and understand that it's just unsupported now.
Or would you bail because of the principle of it all?
I think it's utterly pathetic the way Microsoft is handling this. They came out a strong contender, but now are returning to what they were: a joke.
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Well I mean I'll be angry too, but wp7 as is, is still a fantastic device. You could just stay with it, and understand that it's just unsupported now.
Or would you bail because of the principle of it all?
I think it's utterly pathetic the way Microsoft is handling this. They came out a strong contender, but now are returning to what they were: a joke.
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Primarily the principle... and as much as I hate to admit it I would like multi-tasking... if I am playing ilomilo and I sit my phone down for a minute I have to start the level over again... it's pretty lame. If tombstoning apps worked as it should it wouldn't be an issue.
M$? Seriously? You think they're delaying the update as some sort of diabolical scheme to make money? Or is it just because they want to taunt their users? I'm sorry so much of your self worth is tied up in a phone that you can't bear someone making fun of it.
I think it's pretty obvious it's not out yet because Samsung's firmware is garbage and they're trying to work around it. After this first one future updates should go much more smoothly.
Well I am pretty sure I am picking up a HTC 7 Pro/Arrive from Sprint on March 20th, and it comes pre-installed with the NoDo update. Obviously the update already works and is out if HTC is manufacturing the Arrive and will have them in stores on the 20th.
I would say that the issue of update is falling just on Microsoft.
Dude STFU! Official word was 90 days after CES. Officially they are right on time.
Its like you guys dismissed official word and believed bull**** rumors.
Damn I usually criticize this mediocre OS, but you guys are going too far.
Realistically, no profit minded business gives a **** about pushing updates to old hardware. It doesn't make money! Get over it.
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M$? Seriously? You think they're delaying the update as some sort of diabolical scheme to make money? Or is it just because they want to taunt their users? I'm sorry so much of your self worth is tied up in a phone that you can't bear someone making fun of it.
I think it's pretty obvious it's not out yet because Samsung's firmware is garbage and they're trying to work around it. After this first one future updates should go much more smoothly.
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Eh, they've had 6 months to do this. We are not children, they should've tested it on two of their most popular devices much before the release that bricked some devices with 0 benefits. The corporate world is not something you procrastinate in if you want to succeed in whatever market. I have no doubt given the support WP7 will be the best out there but it truly doesn't seem microsoft is taking it seriously. Samsung is garbage when it comes to drivers. That is and will continue to be their weak point for whatever reason.
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Dude STFU! Official word was 90 days after CES. Officially they are right on time.
Its like you guys dismissed official word and believed bull**** rumors.
Damn I usually criticize this mediocre OS, but you guys are going too far.
Realistically, no profit minded business gives a **** about pushing updates to old hardware. It doesn't make money! Get over it.
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And even more recent word was first two weeks of March. I'm not one of those people who acts as though the update should've been out in January. I went solely on Microsoft's word and it does get annoying when not only are the rumors incorrect but also the official word.
vetvito said:
Dude STFU! Official word was 90 days after CES. Officially they are right on time.
Its like you guys dismissed official word and believed bull**** rumors.
Damn I usually criticize this mediocre OS, but you guys are going too far.
Realistically, no profit minded business gives a **** about pushing updates to old hardware. It doesn't make money! Get over it.
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When did they ever officially say "90 days after CES" ? At first it was the "January Update." Then February. Then Early March. Now it's late March. I won't be surprised if it dips into ****ing April.
WP7 is a solid OS, there's nothing mediocre about it. It makes iOS look like an archaic toy in terms of UI.
But with all that said, Microsoft is taking WAY too long to bring the OS up to feature parity with Android and iOS, and it's starting to get a little ****ing ridiculous. what we SHOULD be getting this month is Mango, not NoDo. Microsoft is dragging their damned feet, and the more they do it the further they'll fall behind.
They CANNOT afford to take their sweet damn time like this. If they do, the platform will die.
jasongw said:
When did they ever officially say "90 days after CES" ? At first it was the "January Update." Then February. Then Early March. Now it's late March. I won't be surprised if it dips into ****ing April.
WP7 is a solid OS, there's nothing mediocre about it. It makes iOS look like an archaic toy in terms of UI.
But with all that said, Microsoft is taking WAY too long to bring the OS up to feature parity with Android and iOS, and it's starting to get a little ****ing ridiculous. what we SHOULD be getting this month is Mango, not NoDo. Microsoft is dragging their damned feet, and the more they do it the further they'll fall behind.
They CANNOT afford to take their sweet damn time like this. If they do, the platform will die.
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January and February were tech blog rumors. Android reallly doesnt have much further to advance so that's not a concern. With them it's pretty much a hardware battle from here on out.
Oh my gosh, AT CES THEY SAID 60-90 DAYS! NO TECH BLOG, NO RUMOR. FACT.
I think you should calm the fsk down and stop treating your phone like a football team. You *threw* yourself in front of android fanboys? the chivalry lol!
vetvito said:
Oh my gosh, AT CES THEY SAID 60-90 DAYS! NO TECH BLOG, NO RUMOR. FACT.
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Ballmer himself said first two weeks of March
z33dev33l said:
Android reallly doesnt have much further to advance so that's not a concern. With them it's pretty much a hardware battle from here on out.
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You sound like the Guy that made a living selling oil lamps in the early 1800s. "There is nothing else they can invent, this is the best technology can get". Yeah right.
pillsburydoughman said:
I think you should calm the fsk down and stop treating your phone like a football team. You *threw* yourself in front of android fanboys? the chivalry lol!
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Yup, that added something to the thread.
vetvito said:
You sound like the Guy that made a living selling oil lamps in the early 1800s. "There is nothing else they can invent, this is the best technology can get". Yeah right.
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Honestly cant think of a good addition thats been added to android since... I don't know... multi-tasking?
I hate to say it, but the OP is right and the defenders are wrong. And I'm throwing down the gauntlet, too: if NoDo doesn't hit in March, I'm DONE.
So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?
Mango Features Listed
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-features-fully-revealed
What sort of websites use HTML5? my bro says none of the good websites (e.g. sockshare, putlocker, megavieo) use flash
EDIT: Gonna rephrase this
Are the any websites that I can watch/Download shows off which use HTML5?
5minutes said:
So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?
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Oh please ..you see only 10 new features ???
Not another one of those uselless thread..
colossus_r said:
Oh please ..you see only 10 new features ???
Not another one of those uselless thread..
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ha, that's what I thought. When I read it.
Please lock the thread and move on...
Actually.. he's kinda right.. I know that the improvements are said to be 500. Okay, and this includes a thousand of news inside the system, wich we can't see, just in the future.
But i'm curious about all 500 features.
http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161
akuji_bwn said:
http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161
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Yeah, thanks.. But there is not 500 there.
5minutes said:
So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?
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I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.
truevoxdei said:
I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.
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Dude, there is pictures of Tango already. Dont spit bull**** like this if you know nothing.
mikeeam said:
Dude, there is pictures of Tango already. Dont spit bull**** like this if you know nothing.
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Ha ha... And then next version will be "stringo", dude. I know, MS very slow with from idea TO good stuff... in our fastest and hardest world. Competitors will never sleep. Remember it.
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Ha ha... And then next version will be "stringo", dude. I know, MS very slow with from idea TO good stuff... in our fastest and hardest world. Competitors will never sleep. Remember it.
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I know this very well. Because next year, WP7 is going to compete not with iOS 5, but with iOS 6. And with Ice Cream Sandwich. So MS should think straight and have some cards hidden in the sleeves, because Tango may be fine, but they need Apollo since this year, and Mango since LAST year.
Even more now with "Googlerola".
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I know this very well. Because next year, WP7 is going to compete not with iOS 5, but with iOS 6.
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Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.
truevoxdei said:
Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.
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Mango is already out there. And to be honest, I dont think it was a mistaken leak. I think Microsoft intentionally leaked it. Anyone can install, like Apple jailbreak. You can just go ahead and read some tutorials. It's no hard.
Right now, I have mango, in Portuguese, running perfectly smooth. I don't need to use third party apps to Facebook, MSN, Twitter, LinkedIn. And most importand than have their own apps, it's integrated with the system and working better than any iOS/Android app would do.
It doesnt have customizations indeed, but who cares? Thread message is sexy, notifications are pretty nice, though it have some flaws. The keyboard is LOT better than Android's, even if its not swype. Tiles simply rocks, fast app switch could be better, but its better than Android too.
The user experience is a lot better overall.
truevoxdei said:
I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.
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What do you expect from a 1 year member of the XDA and this is his 4th post ...
Man you are something...
akuji_bwn said:
http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161
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I count all of these features and they are still less than 100. It is still far from 500.
Most of the features are ones we do not see. Bug fixes, API updates, developer hooks and plug-ins, tons of stuff that we cannot physically touch or play with. That is until a developer takes advantage of the new features.
Once Mango comes out, you'll see much better apps on the platform, ones that are able to take advantage of many of 500 new features that Windows Phone Mango brings.
And that haters continue to hate for the sake of hating. Would you rather support the socially irresponsible company that makes overpriced under spec'd hardware and makes record profits while making NO charitable donations or even trying to help people in need, even those hurt in their own factories?!
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You are going off topic. Asking question about something is not the same as hating it.
truevoxdei said:
Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.
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that's politics. Your statement contains absolutely no content. You can easily replace MS with any other competitor and WP7 or Mango with any other OS.
what important functions?
what expectations?
many people? what does that mean? there are many people who don't like Android or iOS
if you want to make a statement then you need to use some facts. If you can't do that then you need to research. Otherwise I have to say that your post is off topic. Look at other posts in this thread in which the posters actually contributed something to the topic and the original post.