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Is KaioneSoft SprintDB dead?

KaioneSoft SprintDB has not offered a solution for WM6. They still sell a patched version of their PPC2003 software that sorta works with WM5. At the KaioneSoft website there no signs of life since August 06 and I believe they are no longer active(except to collect money selling obsolete software).
My questions to the group:
Have you migrated out of KaioneSoft SprintDB?
If so what did you migrate to?
Thanks for your help,
N2O2

I am currently helping them with a WM6 version - as you would be aware, the major issue is the difference in the synch, otherwise SprintDB works well in WM6 - think we are reasonably close to a solution... dont worry, I was getting mightily frustrated myself with this lack of movement. I now have the ability to synch - albeit not quite as elegant as previously.

Thanks for the response. And thanks for helping out SprintDB project.
Unfortunately a database solution without synchronization is not useful to us. For our application to function we need to share data...
My concern with SprintDB is that they move so very slow. So ok, thanks to you, we are near a solution for WM6. Where will be when WM7 hits? Lost again? The newer operating systems are addressing some windows mobile shortcomings like security. These type of improvements more then interest me a little.
I've tested all the latest versions of our software on WM6 and SprintDB is the only one that won't function for us.
It would be good if KaioneSoft would keep us updated through their website, instead of pretending that the issue doesn't exist. Forcing their long time users to wade around the internet forums for solutions. I can't understand why they don't make the issue known on their website, unless they expect to sell to WM6 customers. I'm sure they refund unsuspecting WM6 purchasers, but not being forthright about the issue is more then a little shifty. I'm questioning if this software vendor is responsible enough to trust my databases to.
I have stopped further development with SprintDB and we are testing other solutions. So far Syware is the leading candidate and appears to be a very active company. Has anyone other opinions on database software for WM6?
Long time SprintDB user losing confidence,
N2O2

Hi, I've been using a SprintDB Pro database I developed a couple years ago, and now I'm looking at upgrading to a new device with WM 6. I use this app everyday, now have over 8000 records, and I was so bummed to learn that (1) ActiveSync 4.5 it seems does not support sync'ing databases anymore, and (2) SprintDB doesn't sync on WM 6. I would hate to have to ditch this thing and start over on another db product.
Any advice? Without the ability to sync on WM 6, then what? Can I at least back up my database? Would there be some other way to convert the cdb to something i can edit on the PC?
Any idea *when* SprintDB will fully suport WM 6? (Call me cynical, but hearing "I think we're reasonably close" does not sound to me like a release will happen very soon.)
Does anyone know more about this ActiveSync 4.5 limitation? Does that mean I just need to stay with an older version, or is there more to this?
Finally, if it does come to switching products, any other suggestions besides Syware (which I will check out)? Do any allow me to convert my forms, macros, etc. from SprintDB?
Thanks for any answers or advice!

Sprint DB
Wow, an impressive set of questions.
First off MLK is correct the program itself functions properly under WM6, the issue is with the sync. The sync issue exists because M$ removed Mobile Access support starting with WM5/ActiveSync4. SprintDB developed a work around that made AS4 function with their program that was designed for PPC2003. That work around no longer functions WM6. because M$ further slashed AS4.5
WM6 requires at least AS4.5 or Vista.
SprintDB told me in March 07 that a WM6 sync fix would be available in July 07. We are still waiting. In SrintDB's defense: I think this task is substantial, they are attempting to develop an Activesync type database sync with a deliberate slash of support by M$ in AS4 and 4.5.
It sounds as if you don't need to merge your PC database(mdb) with your WM database(cdb). If you can get away with simply converting your cdb to mdb and back to cdb, although a bit clumsy a program like "Access Converter" free from Kaisoft may be a work around. You could then stay with SprintDB saving the development cost of a migration.
http://www.pocketkai.net/asp/en/index-en.html
If you need to manage two databases the merge their contents ie WM6 <-> W2K the only solution I see is ODBC. This has the advantage of syncing your data via cell or Wifi connection. Unfortunatly this will involve having to redevelop your forms queries structure in another DB program such as Syware. I'm not aware of conversion utilities to migrate from SprintDB to another aplication. (Hint to developers reading in: You could gain the entire customer base from SprintDB if you offer such a function.)
I'm still looking for other DB options if there are suggestions.
Hope this helps. Good Luck.

Thank you N2O2, that was a very thoughtful reply and quite helpful.
The word I got from KaioneSoft Support is they expect to have a new version with sync for wm6 in about 1 month. If that happens, I'll be happy. Meanwhile, it sounds like Access Converter will let me squeak by until that release.

[email protected] said:
The word I got from KaioneSoft Support is they expect to have a new version with sync for wm6 in about 1 month.
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KaioneSoft sends this answer every month, does this whenever you send a message that requests the solution to this problem.

Sorry guys, meant to correct this ages ago & only just noticed... new version is out & works with full sync - not as good as previous in that you have to initiate the sync, but at least it works.
Further to this, if the PPC has low memory, or the DB is "of a size" then sometimes the sync can incorrectly report a successful sync - I have another beta I am testing that looks to resolve this, so go 4 it, it looks like they have come through at last.

Works about 95%
Go for it, SprintDB is back & working better than the betas - have been using it noe for a few months without a hitch, save the odd refresh (thats why the 95% - think it gets tired every so often, mind you that be because my PPC is a memory hog & something is chewng it up without my knowledge - not SprintDB, something else I havent tracked as yet)

SprintDB working great but...
HI all,
I have been using SprintDB for years and love it. The new version seems to be working well, but I have sent in 4 support questions to KaioneSoft over a week ago and received only one response in the last few minutes.
I backup my data by exporting the data tables to csv files throughout the day. Twice now I have gotten an "Out of Memory" error at the end of a day, and the program crashes. I have tracked my memory use after each csv export and see that 1M of memory is added after each csv export and never released. So my memory gets eaten up all day long until I run out. Of course the workaround is just to close the program occasionally and reopen. But since you can lose your most recent changes I wanted to warn others about this problem.
Also, I noticed that I get an error message after about the second time I sync data, yet the data seem ok and I can't tell what is causing the error.
Anyone else with this issue?
Thanks,
Pat

phmurphy said:
HI all,
I have been using SprintDB for years and love it. The new version seems to be working well, but I have sent in 4 support questions to KaioneSoft over a week ago and received only one response in the last few minutes.
I backup my data by exporting the data tables to csv files throughout the day. Twice now I have gotten an "Out of Memory" error at the end of a day, and the program crashes. I have tracked my memory use after each csv export and see that 1M of memory is added after each csv export and never released. So my memory gets eaten up all day long until I run out. Of course the workaround is just to close the program occasionally and reopen. But since you can lose your most recent changes I wanted to warn others about this problem.
Also, I noticed that I get an error message after about the second time I sync data, yet the data seem ok and I can't tell what is causing the error.
Anyone else with this issue?
Thanks,
Pat
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Which version are you using - this sounds very much like an old beta I had a while ago. FYI, I am using 1.5.0 (Build 1920)

msn live messenger problem

who is also having problems with wlm messenger? tried various versions and disabled the proxy settings but still no luck. Through outlook i can sync email, but not the messenger program for chat.
i use t-mobile and the wlm gives me an error that it can not connect to messenger and it could be the service or my phone, and that i have to try it later

I have had that issue too but it was in a poor network coverage area, when in a good area (even on standard GPRS) it seems to be pretty stable.

Adult content blocker
Hi
I've just switched to T-Mob UK from Orange UK. My sim switches over tomorrow so I've no actual experience to go from but the cust service guy said that their adult content blocker also block IM applications so needs to be removed. You can do this through T-Mob cust service.
Hope that helps, and that I don't have the same problem from tomorrow!
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

I'm also living in the Netherlands, using T-Mobile and I have the exact same problem.
On another site somebody sent me another version of WLM for the device, but after installing that my entire TouchFlo 3D was gone! (Fortunately uninstalling the version fixed the issue again.) But still I cannot get a connection.
Internet is not the problem as I'm using the phone as my internet connection the entire day.

Oops...the initial version has been uninstalled as well now!
Found it again...

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi
I've just switched to T-Mob UK from Orange UK. My sim switches over tomorrow so I've no actual experience to go from but the cust service guy said that their adult content blocker also block IM applications so needs to be removed. You can do this through T-Mob cust service.
Hope that helps, and that I don't have the same problem from tomorrow!
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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Ahh thats a really good point, that was one of the first things I did when I got my new contract! lol
Yeah get it unblocked and the world is your oyster.

Try disabling the proxy for T-Mobile, this worked for me.
John

Also check date is correct, sometimes if date is not well you cant connect
Here a thread with multiple versions of live messenger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334621&highlight=live+messenger
Hope it helps,

elroy944 said:
who is also having problems with wlm messenger? tried various versions and disabled the proxy settings but still no luck. Through outlook i can sync email, but not the messenger program for chat.
i use t-mobile and the wlm gives me an error that it can not connect to messenger and it could be the service or my phone, and that i have to try it later
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I have the same problem also in the netherlands on t-mobile network

I tried to connect while connected to my WLAN and it returns the same error message!
How can I determine what version I have?

Install the newest version (there is a new one out just a few hours)
I also have T-mobile (ben). I have no problems with messenger, though I have an older version. Ik know I have a HTC hermes (hopefully soon the TP2) but this seems a network problem. Are your settings right?
I only get the messsage when the network signal is low. THis can be in some houses (because of the build of the house, in trainstation (metal frame surrounding you) etc. (I have no problems in my house though).
My settings for BEN: name: Internet
accespoint name: internet.ben
Are you or the other person offline? did you leave msn on at you desktop?
it probably is just the bad network quality. Try it at a diffrent place outside.

quarintus said:
Install the newest version (there is a new one out just a few hours)
I also have T-mobile (ben). I have no problems with messenger, though I have an older version. Ik know I have a HTC hermes (hopefully soon the TP2) but this seems a network problem. Are your settings right?
I only get the messsage when the network signal is low. THis can be in some houses (because of the build of the house, in trainstation (metal frame surrounding you) etc. (I have no problems in my house though).
My settings for BEN: name: Internet
accespoint name: internet.ben
Are you or the other person offline? did you leave msn on at you desktop?
it probably is just the bad network quality. Try it at a diffrent place outside.
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i installed an old version wich is working now, but you say there is just a new version out? do you know the version number?

I installed the lates version. This time TF3D did start automatically after restarting and everything is working!
So, I guess that's the fix!

can someone give me the link to the latest one?
are there any changes? or still the simple layout with less features

disable proxy
Hi all
disabling the Proxy worked for me on T-Mobile UK.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

Integrated messenger and Sockets in WP7

Hi everyone,
I have recently updated to 7720, but i've been using 7712 for a while
and i have noticed something in the integrated messenger,
which it doesn't keep u online, and what i mean by that you literally go OFFLINE
which makes me wonder, where is the push notifications in that ?
i want to put my phone locked in my pocket and keep receiving IMs
scenarios i have tried : Tested on wifi and 3g
Assuming that i have just booted my phone then i did
* Messaging >> Connecting >> Connected >> Check who is online
Then :
1-lock the phone, and put it a side after 5 min u check it again and it is connecting which means u were off
--OR
2-press the menu button( which puts messaging in back ground) go to any other APP (IE9 for example) then u go back to messaging either by using menu key or holding the back button, and again u see connecting
so basically if u lock the phone or not, when u put the messaging in the background it eventually disconnects you,
why ? battery saving i think
and yes, in both scenarios i had the Live messenger also running on my PC with different email and i saw my main email going OFF after a while and also stops getting the push notification(messages)
i have done some searching regarding this, and what i found is, when you put the program in background even in mango you cannot leave ur connection sockets open,even in first party app ? (integrated messenger in this case)
for 3rd party apps,what u can do is creating an agent which can run every 30 min for 20 sec, but isnt that bad ? getting an INSTANT message after 30 min ?
PS : If you stay on messaging without locking the screen nor putting it in the background, you stay connected
Please do post you opinion
Regards,

Put my phone aside for an half hour and still connected (verified by WLM showing me signed into two places and ALSO on phone - no "connecting" on mine, if I open messaging "Signed in (available)" appears on top). So it must be you, your carrier, or anything else, no problems on mine

Mine also always ONLINE on 3G, not on WIFI.

My FB chat stays online until i go offline, not sure what your doing thats making you go offline

It could be that the "phone" is disconnected but the live server isn't and if you get a im then it will push to the phone
way should the phone stay connected if it is on lock ?
you still get your push notifications.

Well i have tried and i have done so many experiments,
Some of u have pointed that my network carrier has something to do with it
but i highly doubt it, becoz i also have an iphone on same network, its fine :\
@ceesheim : i have tried that, i receive messages when i reconnect
Edit : Carrier "Etisalat" Dubai , Samsung Omnia 7

It works fine for me.
I get Facebook Chat, Facebook Notifications and WLM Notifications when the phone is locked.
Doesn't matter if I'm on Wifi or EDGE/3G.

Works fine on mine too.. Get notifications similar to txt notification..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

I don't see anything running under background tasks. Why is that so?

Bcoz those is for 3rd party apps, and integrated messenger is.. Well integrated. Part of d system.
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

i dont see any battery life improvements in mango. why?

Isn't that good?
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

mine is doing the same thing but bear in mind lately my carrier is having 3g, until its stable i can only assume its doing the same thing loging on and off.

Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...

abukaff said:
Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...
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Maybe your network doesn't allow constant connection to 3G and disconnects you when idle, to stop too many connections or something.

nope, no issues here get Facebook messages in the same manner as SMS.

ceesheim said:
It could be that the "phone" is disconnected but the live server isn't and if you get a im then it will push to the phone
way should the phone stay connected if it is on lock ?
you still get your push notifications.
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the messenger works with Microsoft direct push technology.

brummiesteven said:
Maybe your network doesn't allow constant connection to 3G and disconnects you when idle, to stop too many connections or something.
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yes it may be the cell towers.depending on the cell tower operation, some may disconnect yr data when, Idle to save on bandwidth. Too many people connected to 3g puts immense stress to the tower.

abukaff said:
Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...
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I myself from Dubai and on Etisalat carrier. I experienced a similar issue, i've since then turned off 3G and went completely on EDGE....
Also, i turned off WIFI.....etisalat 3G service is kind of flaky in many areas however the Edge seems to run fine.....
from windows phone OS it does drops wifi on screenlock....so messenger will signout....however if you are on DATA it shud keep the connection alive...but its not a perfect world n u mite signout ...
the other service provider DU i dont like them...voice quality sux...data service slow.
Lastly, i wonder how skype in future will work since....on 3G it'll eat up data so cant make calls....but on wifi if at screen lock it drops connection then skype friends will have hard time calling me.......so wats the solution?!?

Sorry Ive got a really noob question.
But where the heck is WLM? I go into messenger and I have my facebook chat, but I have no freaking idea where WLM is for messenging? I go to a WLM contact and it just gives me an option to send email.
I have the HD2 and 7720 RTM from XBMod and Yukis update rom method.

I've update to 7740.

I received the update information today afternoon,and finish it just now.NO big improvements,maybe some changes on details.
Do you get the update?
Model:Samsung OMNIA7
Location:China

15131331231 said:
I received the update information today afternoon,and finish it just now.NO big improvements,maybe some changes on details.
Do you get the update?
Model:Samsung OMNIA7
Location:China
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I belive they make changes in Microsoft Exchange Sever (Email services) ,also fixed the Notifications status errors and someother stuffs.
HTC Titan UK, have just updated.

I've just been pushed the 7740 update to my 7 Pro, nothing particularly major.
I'm praying that it fixes the live tile and artist pictures on Zune though, the live tile has been stuck for weeks now and it seems to have lost all the artist pictures from stuff I bought from the phone!

Nice to see.
I have a Samsung Focus, but havent resived any update!!! any ideas?

Am just updating my Nokia Lumia 800 (on orange Uk) now to 7740.16. In the blurb just say it's fixing an email issue with Microsoft Exchange Server 2003

...got it too..............

Updated. Didnt feel anything faster. For me, useless update

Thanks for the info.. I also got the notification on my phone but I don't even care to upgrade to this version.. Coz I don't want to go through all that 3 hours of 'backup' as Microsoft likes to call it, which basically backs up nothing.
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Heh, I updated yesterday and now my Internet is barely working, weather is on wi-fi or 3g. Lucky me! I've been meaning to factory reset this phone for quite some time since it has been giving me problems updating and downloading some apps on the marketplace, plus I can't download podcasts at all, yet can stream them.

I got the update on my LG Optimus 7. Didnt do it as I was feeling lazy. It supposedly brings two changes on O7(Activesync message forward issue and some Voicemail issue)
Didnt get the update on my Samsung Focus.

could not update to 7.10.7740
how can i update my half bricked hd7?

Facebook Chat not working?

Hello,
for me (and some other users from Germany), Facebook Chat has not been working for several days.
It simply shows all Facebook contacts as beig offline. This is the case both in Windows Phone and Windows Live Messnger (all instances).
I don't think Microsoft hat acknowledged the problem but I also did not find a similar thread here.
Does Facebook Chat not work for anybody else as well? If so, where do you live?

All systems go here in Chicago

.i'm having the same problem.
.i'm in malaysia

Apparently Microsoft or Facebook fixed this issue as it is working again for me and many other users from Germany.

I have the same problem on 2 phones. Romania

I'm from germany and the problem does still exist for my hd7 phone.
p.s. i still didnt switch to the new timeline view till now. maybe thats the cause of the problem?

dtuna said:
I'm from germany and the problem does still exist for my hd7 phone.
p.s. i still didnt switch to the new timeline view till now. maybe thats the cause of the problem?
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Yes some people noted that after they switched to timeline it worked again, but I have had timeline since months and I did not change anything to get Facebook Chat to work again.
Might be worth a shot but to be honest I think it is just a coincidence.

BTW guys do you use it on 2g or 3g or wifi?
Any battery drains?

wujuu

same problem for me..

what is happening here, anyone got a fix for this?
.it's really bad

I think it has something to do with facebook, I have had "chat not available
" on my laptop off and on for about a week.