Integrated messenger and Sockets in WP7 - Windows Phone 7 General

Hi everyone,
I have recently updated to 7720, but i've been using 7712 for a while
and i have noticed something in the integrated messenger,
which it doesn't keep u online, and what i mean by that you literally go OFFLINE
which makes me wonder, where is the push notifications in that ?
i want to put my phone locked in my pocket and keep receiving IMs
scenarios i have tried : Tested on wifi and 3g
Assuming that i have just booted my phone then i did
* Messaging >> Connecting >> Connected >> Check who is online
Then :
1-lock the phone, and put it a side after 5 min u check it again and it is connecting which means u were off
--OR
2-press the menu button( which puts messaging in back ground) go to any other APP (IE9 for example) then u go back to messaging either by using menu key or holding the back button, and again u see connecting
so basically if u lock the phone or not, when u put the messaging in the background it eventually disconnects you,
why ? battery saving i think
and yes, in both scenarios i had the Live messenger also running on my PC with different email and i saw my main email going OFF after a while and also stops getting the push notification(messages)
i have done some searching regarding this, and what i found is, when you put the program in background even in mango you cannot leave ur connection sockets open,even in first party app ? (integrated messenger in this case)
for 3rd party apps,what u can do is creating an agent which can run every 30 min for 20 sec, but isnt that bad ? getting an INSTANT message after 30 min ?
PS : If you stay on messaging without locking the screen nor putting it in the background, you stay connected
Please do post you opinion
Regards,

Put my phone aside for an half hour and still connected (verified by WLM showing me signed into two places and ALSO on phone - no "connecting" on mine, if I open messaging "Signed in (available)" appears on top). So it must be you, your carrier, or anything else, no problems on mine

Mine also always ONLINE on 3G, not on WIFI.

My FB chat stays online until i go offline, not sure what your doing thats making you go offline

It could be that the "phone" is disconnected but the live server isn't and if you get a im then it will push to the phone
way should the phone stay connected if it is on lock ?
you still get your push notifications.

Well i have tried and i have done so many experiments,
Some of u have pointed that my network carrier has something to do with it
but i highly doubt it, becoz i also have an iphone on same network, its fine :\
@ceesheim : i have tried that, i receive messages when i reconnect
Edit : Carrier "Etisalat" Dubai , Samsung Omnia 7

It works fine for me.
I get Facebook Chat, Facebook Notifications and WLM Notifications when the phone is locked.
Doesn't matter if I'm on Wifi or EDGE/3G.

Works fine on mine too.. Get notifications similar to txt notification..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

I don't see anything running under background tasks. Why is that so?

Bcoz those is for 3rd party apps, and integrated messenger is.. Well integrated. Part of d system.
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

i dont see any battery life improvements in mango. why?

Isn't that good?
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

mine is doing the same thing but bear in mind lately my carrier is having 3g, until its stable i can only assume its doing the same thing loging on and off.

Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...

abukaff said:
Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...
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Maybe your network doesn't allow constant connection to 3G and disconnects you when idle, to stop too many connections or something.

nope, no issues here get Facebook messages in the same manner as SMS.

ceesheim said:
It could be that the "phone" is disconnected but the live server isn't and if you get a im then it will push to the phone
way should the phone stay connected if it is on lock ?
you still get your push notifications.
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the messenger works with Microsoft direct push technology.

brummiesteven said:
Maybe your network doesn't allow constant connection to 3G and disconnects you when idle, to stop too many connections or something.
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yes it may be the cell towers.depending on the cell tower operation, some may disconnect yr data when, Idle to save on bandwidth. Too many people connected to 3g puts immense stress to the tower.

abukaff said:
Confirmed, that the problem is in the service provider as i tried a different sim of another provider it worked fine,
i've been calling the company regarding this problem since two week and they are trying to convince me that there is no problem from their side its only from my phone.
seriously how crapy is that...
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I myself from Dubai and on Etisalat carrier. I experienced a similar issue, i've since then turned off 3G and went completely on EDGE....
Also, i turned off WIFI.....etisalat 3G service is kind of flaky in many areas however the Edge seems to run fine.....
from windows phone OS it does drops wifi on screenlock....so messenger will signout....however if you are on DATA it shud keep the connection alive...but its not a perfect world n u mite signout ...
the other service provider DU i dont like them...voice quality sux...data service slow.
Lastly, i wonder how skype in future will work since....on 3G it'll eat up data so cant make calls....but on wifi if at screen lock it drops connection then skype friends will have hard time calling me.......so wats the solution?!?

Sorry Ive got a really noob question.
But where the heck is WLM? I go into messenger and I have my facebook chat, but I have no freaking idea where WLM is for messenging? I go to a WLM contact and it just gives me an option to send email.
I have the HD2 and 7720 RTM from XBMod and Yukis update rom method.

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TMobile WM2003 Upgrade Issues

I was wondering if anyone else was having the following issues with the new T-Mobile upgrade, and if anyone had any ideas on how to resolve them:
* The phone turns on sporadically when it is in my pocket. I think this normally happens when it tries to connect to GPRS
* The phone doesn't give me notification of my voice mail all the time
Thanks,
Dan
http://envoisolutions.com/people/dan
I'm seeing #1. In my case it looks like it's every time that the Inbox checks the email. Beta Version 4.00.16 didn't do this (so I might go back).
I had #2 occasionally even with PPC2002. Do you go in and out of coverage areas? This can cause problems, I think.
tmo never fails....
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
Memory Leak
I have a memory leak that I can not trace. I have a cooked TMO .16 release radditionally running MS Voice, SharpDeck Sharp Vault, Pocket Streets, Cadenza mNotes.
I slowly but steadilt lose memory unitl I have none left and now have none left.
I am going back to the ATT version (but cooked)
Macudc
Upgrade
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?
Re: Upgrade
scottyjchef said:
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?
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I had to restart my computer to solve this... Sometimes, you need to restart the XDA also.
MrDollyMaker
Upgraded Driver
If you allow the TMOBILE upgrade to install the new updates for you, it also installs a new driver in to your XDA that illiminates ALL upgrade problems from what I have seen.
MrDollyMaker
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I have done a hard reset on the phone and I run into the problem when I first start the upgrade. It goes through an initial setup of "unpacking" and after that is when I get the error on the pc. The device connects fine with ActiveSync.
I'm having the turn back on issue, and also some times my text messages don't seem to come through.
I was thinking that maybe when it turns itself on, it's a text message trying to come through or something.
My texts end up coming through in a group!
yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!
I just upgraded with T-Mobile.16 ROM and Radio. The only bug im experiencing is when I receive a new sms, and I read it already, the notification of "1 unread SMS" on the Today panel won't go away.
I'm also having a hard time setting up my connection settings (MMS and GRPS) for the advanced section of the connection won;t show the proxy settings. Any1 who has a solution for this? I'm usign the mobile in the Philippines that's why I need to setup the proxy per connection and not per connection group.
Upgrade
Nevermind! I hate when it's something simple like disabling the antivirus on the pc. DUH!! :roll: I have yet to get any sms. Will keep watching :shock:
ntabikha said:
yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!
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I am yet to received any errors like this. The only time I seem to have the XDA turn on is when the reception fringes and it hunts down better reception. It only takes a moment of poor reception to interfear with how it receives a message and than the system waits several hours sometimes to send it.
T-Mobile as with many other carriers like Verison and AT&T state to excpet up to 24 hours for SMS messages to get through to your phone.
MrDollyMaker
Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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Yes, I had this issue today and I then unistalled the KSE TrueFax Trial (which I installed yesterday) and now the power button is working correctly again. The only way to power up the XDA was to do a soft-reset.
HTH...
i didnt think xda 1 had fax capabilities! atleast I couldnt get them to work, could u?
ntabikha said:
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
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FYI, I had the same problems with the XDA-developers Special Edition ROM. I go into many building where I get no signal at all. My guess is that, if the SMS message fails, the T-Mobile network will retry it, but sometimes not for quite a long time.
Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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I have a similar problem. When the device powers off automatically (after about 3min) I can't get it to come back on. Doing a soft reset actually makes it do a hard reset. Also, while it's in this "coma" state, I can receive a call and hear the person on the other end, but they only hear a ring and can't hear me.
T-mobile had no clue what to do... as usual.

GPRS/3G Connection troubles

Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
Ive had the same issues, my internet connection will just randomly quit on me. One second it will be working the next it will disconnect. Seems to be when I bring it out of standby or get a call. Definitely not as stable as WM5 was.
Radio Version?
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
electron73 said:
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
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silverfox0214 said:
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, I had radio 1.27.00.00 before, now I have 1.38.30.10
Also I do have newest Hard-SPL 1.40 installed. So I'm pretty much cutting edge here. Howewer, the PROBLEM has been annoying me since WM2003SE.
Is it just the way it is with desktops? Micky Mouse Soft dominates the market, releases one pile of **** after another, never really fixing bugs but introducing new ones by the thousands and we users (who in this case have paid $500 for the device) are left in the dust?
If I just imagine delivering buggy crap like this to MY customers, they would kill me!
Anyone have some good ideas or hacks? I definitely need to get this working at least to a somewhat acceptable level. Since having the Hermes with the first "original" WM5 on it, I got used to rebooting that unreliable Micro$hit every morning when I get up, to make it usually just about last for the day. I'm definitely not willing to reboot every hour !!!
I have this problem
I have this problem however I still receive push email. the most annoying thing is that I cannot keep a data session active with a voice call.
I am on Orange UK network. I use 4smartphone's hosted exchange service. I get directpush working 24/7 with Black 2.0 OS. I also receive my pop email whilst on voicecalls.
So its not a WM6 issue. Its either your network or your connection settings.
I must say that it actually improved a lot since installing Black 2.0. However, the connection still silently dies off eventually. I now have a makeshift solution using FlexMail, set to poll emails every 15 min. So what happens is as long as the PDA is ON, I get immediate PUSH mail. Once I put it in standby, it continues to work for a minute or two, then the connection ****s up. Every 15 min Flexmail wakes up and polls for emails, which most of the times seems to work as I can see in my logfile that every 15 min the tcp connection opens up and the server dumps all new mails over to the phone. It then enters IDLE and at some point dies away with "recv(): connection timed out".
So it's all pretty messy still and I'm wondering what you can do to PREVENT the line from silently dying in the first place. Tried tools like GPRS Keepalive with no luck, since the whole program stops being executed in standby and hence it can not keep the connection up = useless. I need some hack/tool/program that stays active during standby! Then I could just have it ping my mailserver once per minute to keep the connection open.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Could my problem be related? - see my post under Treo 750:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324495
I am testing to see if I get the same behaviour with 3G/UMTS as I do with GPRS....

Is it network, WM6, or the unit problem?

The problem is one of the most annoying ones you can have: it appears only from time to time and you don't know when and even when it does you don't notice.
Simply my phone is not accessible for others even it shows full range and so on. The message "...the phone is switched off...". This problem occurs in as far as I remember 3 releases of ROMS (full, vanillas, etc). The radio ROM was also changed. I don't remember having such issue in early WM6 or in original 2005.
Since it's not related directly to any of the releases I post it as a new thread.
Now I have 3 options:
1. Downgrade to 2005
2. Throw the unit through the window, wait until end of contract and buy an iPhone
3. Try to fight with T-Mobile UK - which is not really an option since I just recovered from fighting with Orange for over a month
Does any of you experienced such problem?
Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
Any suggestions?
Adigital said:
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Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
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Well, I got the answer - couldn't wait and did the downgrade using original ROM. If anyone interested it went without problems. No ISPL needed. Connected, fired-up the exe file and worked OK.
I'll see how about the availability problem.
Ok, seems that it's only me having the conversation ;o)
I apologize for the thread location - it doesn't seem to be related strictly to WM6 anymore as I...
...installed WM5 and did some tests:
(I have voice mail switched off)
- Call waiting enabled = no calls allowed when GPRS active
- Call waiting disabled = no calls when transferring data (large file) but received when no transfer
- Used W660i SonyEricsson handset - could receive calls regardless of GPRS activity
Rang T-Mobile tech support where they told me that this is network feature that when internet connection is active no calls are allowed and since my voicemail is turned off all callers get message that my phone is switched off. In the light of GPRS specification and my tests this is a bull****.
Now I'm asking anyone on UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk and who wants to help - please do such test. Just try to call your number from different phone when opening a web-page.
This is pretty important to me - I need internet on the move and don't want to get rid of my MDA.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I'm on T-Mobile UK too and I ran some tests myself and found that you are absolutely correct. When you transfer data you cannot receive phone calls.
I've got an O2 device with me I can do some more tests on and I'll also try and borrow my Wife's Samsung and test that too. I'll post my findings here.
Cheers
Alex
ok, i've just tested this on an O2 3G device and there was no problem, next to try a none windows mobile t-mobile phone.
seems this problem has been around for while and on other networks.
http://www.freenfo.net/mobile/archive/index-t-64022.html
ok, final test and conclusion.
I tested the same o2 phone as above but in a NON 3g area (i.e. gprs only) and found the exact same issue.
conclusion: this seems to affect all types of phone and multiple networks but only when using gprs NOT 3g.
I'm suprised we havent heard more about this problem.
cheers
Alex
Thank you Alex very much for your help.
I did some research on the topic last night and found the same info as guys in the thread your linked. It must be that T-Mobile UK operates in NOM-2, which allows to suspend GPRS session only when no data is transferred. When packets are transmitted the device doesn't 'see' incoming calls as it's 'busy' with dealing with the packets. NOM-1 is 'able' to encapsulate information about incoming call into one of the packets and the device is notified about - so it can react, suspend the transmission and pick up the call.
The fact is that our MDA/Artemis uses Class B of GPRS which doesn't allow simultaneous CDA/GPRS at the same time. Even if it can suspend active data transfer it is the network that has to support that feature.
What I must notice is that I had lot more problems wiht this when I was using WM6. It seems that there were some packets transmitted by the system or something. I had my mail set to check servers every 15 mins at the beginning but lately ony once an hour or two. Other soft that could transmit anything was Weather module from SPB or Touch. Now when I'm on WM5 and was checking the issue during loading a page I was unavailable but as soon as a page was completely loaded my phone was accessible back.
My surprise is that if the 'issue' seems to be quite normal and there is nothing to do about it why I couldn't find any info about it here. Doesn't it affect anyone of our community?
I may be wrong with the WM6 expirience but still. If WM6 works fine in that respect it must have happened that someone missed a call when browsing the net.
i hadnt noticed to be honest
mugglesquop said:
i hadnt noticed to be honest
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Did you try ringing your phone when it was loading a long page or downloading a file?
TBH I think I've noticed it just as much on WM6 as I did (or didn't) on WM5, I think I put these odd voice mails turning up down to weird WM issues! Now I know the truth though.
Obv. there isn't a lot we can do about this and I'm not prepared to turn off my Windows Live Mail or my direct push. I think we just have to wait until our contracts are up for renewal and get over to a 3G device - I'm liking the look of the Touch Cruise myself, or the Touch Dual if I want that keyboard back and by the time my contract is up I think they should be on T-Mob UK.
does the same thing happen in Edge areas or as that rolls out will the problem disappear?
I'm not sure about how EDGE works but the problem affects GPRS rather than 3G due to the fact that GPRS and the incoming call are submitted alongside each other and 3G is seperate. I don't think t-mob uk have edge running yet so I can't test, perhpas some else can test for us.
Bro.. My first 3rd party ROM is the Touch 3.0.. and yes.. my connnection did go off once a while (no bars as well).. that was kinda irritating. I have to go to connection manager and toggle my data connection or something like that, before my phone will get the GSM signal.
And yea.. the original WM5 and WM6 have no such issues.. I wonder if this is because of the new radio version..

WORKING Blackberry Connect configurations

Hello All,
I believe there are many like me who would love to get the Blackberry Connect Software working on their HDs. At the moment, it seems like black magic how to get it working and the other thread doesn't really contain much useful information on working configurations.
So far, we know the following:
1. It is Radio, ROM and SIM card dependent.
2. You need to have the BB service provisioned on your SIM and have the new style SIMs that support full data functions.
3. Latest version of BB Connect required for TouchHD (4.0.0.106). This is available from HTC Asia on on the internet (just search these boards)
What i'd like to use this thread for is for people to post WORKING configurations with as many details as possible regarding the setup/installation procedure. I'll start with the only configuration I've managed to get working so far.
ROM: Dutty's 1.9b extreme
Radio: 1.12.25.16
SIM: Blackberry service from MTN
Installation/Procedure:
- Flash ROM
- Install BB Connect software
- Provision SIM card
- Connection was activated after a few hours.
Other information:
- The BB connect service defaults to IE as the browser.
- BB Push email service worked but with lag. SEVEN was much better in this regard.
- I was unable to get messenger, stock tabs, weather update, google maps, etc to use the BB connection
- BB push email service creates its own mail folders on your device regardless of what you already have.
- BB email folders do not have full flip to scroll to next message functionality in TF3D.
- BB email did not display pictures, etc
Please lets have other users chime in here and perhaps we can get a Wiki section created for BB Connect on the HD. Lets please keep to the same format as above to keep the information easily referenced and trackable.
Thanks
Thanks for the info, I have been able to run the service with all ROM's expect for the ones built on 6.5 OS's..
Connection was instant in each installation (right after a reset I am connected - then I'd push my service book -- done)
I do not have any lags in mail arrival.
Its satisfactory for me- but as you said you have to stop the BB service prior to any attempt to use the data connection for other purposes (IE, weather...etc)
Only thing I miss is the blackberry messenger.
Thanks for the thread.
Taiseer
Thanks for responding Taiseer.
Could you tell me what mobile operator and country you're using? Secondly, what do you mean by push your service books? Is than an automatic process or manually performed by you? In the installation that worked for me, I didn't do anything of the sort.
After installing did you have your BB sim in the phone or did you insert it later?
TechAnimal said:
Thanks for responding Taiseer.
Could you tell me what mobile operator and country you're using? Secondly, what do you mean by push your service books? Is than an automatic process or manually performed by you? In the installation that worked for me, I didn't do anything of the sort.
After installing did you have your BB sim in the phone or did you insert it later?
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I am currently residing in Oman and its Omantel...
and normally what I do after the 1st installation and device reset, all of my mail arrives to a new mail account named system..(and I won't be able to send or reply to mail from it), so to be able to get the rest of my accounts and have a better use out of the service, I log on to the Operator's blackberry's site and manually demand a service book sending.. in few seconds mail arrive into auto formed mail accounts..
As far as the SIM card its always in the HD..
It looks like SEVEN may be better for me then, how does battery compare between the two.
Thanks for the information Taiseer. My provider does not offer the internet log on option so I guess I will need to get them to push the service books to me somehow. When I install the software with the sim in it, i get nothing after a soft reset. No pin and no ip address. Did you find that MS Live or any other microsoft service was able to use the BB connection or is it just the browser?
O and O said:
It looks like SEVEN may be better for me then, how does battery compare between the two.
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Seven has a good service and I've had no complaints. The BB data plan is the cheapest where I live though. So if you can get unlimited (or cheap) data packages, stick with SEVEN. I didn't notice any differences with battery life.
TechAnimal said:
Thanks for the information Taiseer. My provider does not offer the internet log on option so I guess I will need to get them to push the service books to me somehow. When I install the software with the sim in it, i get nothing after a soft reset. No pin and no ip address. Did you find that MS Live or any other microsoft service was able to use the BB connection or is it just the browser?
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No - you got to stop data connection, but because I am used to my WIFI conection and hotspots everywhere I normally do not discounnect the BB connection, DO you??
Whilst my service worked I was too scared to disconnect the BB connection so I just didn't use any of the other services. It sucked. I've just flashed Davideuck's newest V 2 ROM so we'll see if i can get it working.
Okay, great news people. I've got my service working on Davideuck's Version 2 rom. It required a call to my network provider. For all those installing on a HD, its down to your provider regardless of what they say.
Taiseer, thanks for the heads up about the blackberry page for my subscriber. I managed to track mine down and set up my email accounts from there.
Woohah!
I am using a stock ROM 1.14.405.3(22273) WWE, Radio 1.09.25.15
I hate to have to use a cooked ROM, I've used Dutty's ROM's on my Kaiser and they worked well but this phone works so well I don't want to mess things up.
I believe the stock ROM should work as well. Be sure to hassle your service provider to set it up on their end. I think some providers are not pleased to offer the BB service for non BB phones and do not fully enable the service (they can tell that its not a BB phone from the PIN number). After a talk with my provider, I was told to reset my phone and presto! all was working.
It works on on my Kaiser so I know it works on my T-Mobile plan. I may mess with the radio's to see what I can do.
Sorry to keep adding to this thread but I have some new developments. I upgraded the ROM to 1.19.831.0 and Radio 1.09.25.14
I have version 106 and ran the desktop software, it switched the PIN from the Kaiser to the HD. I changed the version reset the device and now I have the service books and an IP address.
When I look at the status I get network available>data tunnel available then not connected.
Update, since it wasn't working I tried to reinstall BB Connect on the HD, when I tried to configure I got the PIN 0 error. As a last resort I put the SIM in the Kaiser and configured it, then switch to the HD, configured it and it worked!
I'm not sure but it looks like changing the PIN was all I needed to do.
blackberry working great on orange uk htc touch HD standard phone
I downloaded the blacberry install files form a link on this forum, I belive it was the same blackbery files from HTC.
Rom Version 1.19.61.1 wwe
Radio 1.09.25.14
Installed the BB app to phone - then went to start settings > system >" click" icon blackberry.
Blackerry connect (identity) tab shows 3 bits of info
PIN said something like waiting for PIN
IMEI 78*******************
IP Address No connection
Spoke to orange asked for blackberry service. they said 5 permonth £ 250MB of blackberry
Orange sent me text message with a pin number and told me of the orange blackberry site to go to I think it is blackberry.orange.co.uk
On the blackberry.orange.co.uk I enterd the PIN number from the text message and IMEI number.
My phone recived a text a turned it of and turned it back on.
Checked the Blackerry connect (identity) tab
PIN was now populated with the pin that was in the text message
IMIE still there
IP Address says connected.
Went back to the blackberry.co.uk setup my email accounts with blackberry the pressed service book. looked at my phone 20 mins later and my there email accounts were there 2 for work and 1 for home.
I dont do much surfing on the phone but opera works and and the blackberry is fantastic.
orange were very helpfull on this.
But saying that blackberry is really a network service Windows Live I belive does a similar thing you get push email.
I'm glad to see people are getting it sorted. There are certainly many other options for connectivity and push email. Some even work better than the BB service. The reason i'm on the BB service is that its the cheapest way to browse regularly and get push email in my part of the world. When a page can cost as much as 30 pence via gprs versus 20 pounds a month for unlimited data on the BB plan, its a no brainer. Yes, I'm painfully aware we're being gouged but theres no getting away from that.
I have a problem with blackberry connect...
Everything installed just fine, receiving message OK, BUT...I can't send mail because option new mail, reply on mail also, is disabled
Very strange, because I used earlier bb connect on diamond and everything worked...
Any solutions?
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I have a problem with blackberry connect...
Everything installed just fine, receiving message OK, BUT...I can't send mail because option new mail, reply on mail also, is disabled
Very strange, because I used earlier bb connect on diamond and everything worked...
Any solutions?
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Its probably because you are only having the "system mail account" you should try to send your service books to your winmo via provider
Thank you very much - I'm tottaly forgot the way how to do that, working now!
Problems with BB connect on HTC HD
Hi guys,
after setting up successfully BBconnect on my HD, I noticed that when I send emails from my BES account on my laptop, I always find them in my Inbox (not in Sent Items as I would expect) of my HD reporting me as Sender and no body message in it. Instead, should I send emails from my handled device, I always find them in Sent Items of my device as expected....Has anyone of you faced the same issue?
Thanks...

[Q] Few problems with my Desire, any ideas?

I'm using unbranded Desire with no mods/rooting, udgraded to the latest official Android 2.2 version.
Here are my problems:
1. People say that they couldn't reach me (number unavailable) while I was on the network all the time. Doesn't happen very often (or I just don't know that) but is really annoying when it does.
2. I am connected to my home WiFi but browser/other programs say that network connection is not available. I have to turn wifi off and on again for it to work. Can it have something to do with the "energy management" widget?
3. My phone is calling people. I get a callback from people saying I called them but they couldn't hear anything (phone was in my pocket). I was wondering if it wasn't the case when I am finishing a call and pressing the red button to end the call but someone on the other side hung up earlier and when I press, the "call" function is activated. However I remember 1 or 2 times when it was definetely not the case.
4. I desperately need a PDF reader that allows to continue reading a book in the place where I finished last time. At the moment I need to be very careful not to close the pdf reader app. When I do I need to look for the page, really annoying. This should be a free app (Google doesn't want my money, they don't allow people from my country into paid appstore )
Hello, 1&2 are really weird problems, they might be connected with the radio, can you check your radio version in settings\about\software\baseband. Some people had problems with the official OTA. Just to be sure - is your wifi alright on other devices and are you sure you have sufficient network coverage. If you download torrents with a crappy router you are likely to get problems. If you're in a low signal area it is possible to lose signal while your device is in your pocket e.g. closer to the ground, when you pick it up you see the bars, when it's in the pocket the network dies. One thing you can easily do is a factory reset , this way we'll find out if any software is causing the problem
3 - you might be turning your device on and then pressing the screen and then calling people, it is not unheard of . Ask them if they hear any noise like cars, people passing by and other stuff, if they do then that's the case
4 - search the market, there are a few, you'll need to try them to see which works best for you
freakzone said:
Hello, 1&2 are really weird problems, they might be connected with the radio, can you check your radio version in settings\about\software\baseband.
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32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 - does it tell you anything?
freakzone said:
Some people had problems with the official OTA. Just to be sure - is your wifi alright
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I'm quite sure it is, I have the maximum signal strength on the display of the phone.
freakzone said:
this way we'll find out if any software is causing the problem
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I think I'll do it when I have a spare weekend
freakzone said:
4 - search the market, there are a few, you'll need to try them to see which works best for you
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quite a few of them and NONE supporting what I need :-/
It might be worth to pop in the store, the unit might be defective, this radio is alright for froyo
allerune said:
1. People say that they couldn't reach me (number unavailable) while I was on the network all the time. Doesn't happen very often (or I just don't know that) but is really annoying when it does.
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If you only have a 2G connection, and are actively using data, all incoming calls will get diverted to voicemail because 2G only supports voice or data - not both at the same time. This is not an issue if you are in 3G coverage, when you can have simultaneous voice and data.
Note that this is a network side issue - 2G networks can be configured to prioritize voice over data, so that if a call comes through data is suspended, but as far as I'm aware most networks (in the UK at least) do not support this.
Regards,
Dave
freakzone said:
It might be worth to pop in the store, the unit might be defective, this radio is alright for froyo
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I guess there is no point going to the store with a problem that cannot be reproduced :-/
Anyway I don't think it's something physical, I suppose software reset will fix everything.
I had that with Nokias, there was a main board problem (every now and then it said "invalid sim card"). Every time I sent it back to the manufacturer, it came back saying "software replaced, tested, everything ok".
Thanks for help anyway ;-)
foxmeister said:
If you only have a 2G connection, and are actively using data, all incoming calls will get diverted to voicemail because 2G only supports voice or data - not both at the same time. This is not an issue if you are in 3G coverage, when you can have simultaneous voice and data.
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Thanks Dave, actually my phone is set to automatically choose network type and I am using a widget to turn off mobile data since I have WiFi at home and only turn it on when I'm outdoors.
I heard that some phones cannot decide whether they should log into the 3G or 2G and that may be the issue. I have changed the settings to use only 3G, we'll see how it works.
BTW: Dave, is it London Ealing? I used to work in Ealing O'Neill's pub back in my student days :-D

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