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Is it network, WM6, or the unit problem?

The problem is one of the most annoying ones you can have: it appears only from time to time and you don't know when and even when it does you don't notice.
Simply my phone is not accessible for others even it shows full range and so on. The message "...the phone is switched off...". This problem occurs in as far as I remember 3 releases of ROMS (full, vanillas, etc). The radio ROM was also changed. I don't remember having such issue in early WM6 or in original 2005.
Since it's not related directly to any of the releases I post it as a new thread.
Now I have 3 options:
1. Downgrade to 2005
2. Throw the unit through the window, wait until end of contract and buy an iPhone
3. Try to fight with T-Mobile UK - which is not really an option since I just recovered from fighting with Orange for over a month
Does any of you experienced such problem?
Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
Any suggestions?

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Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
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Well, I got the answer - couldn't wait and did the downgrade using original ROM. If anyone interested it went without problems. No ISPL needed. Connected, fired-up the exe file and worked OK.
I'll see how about the availability problem.

Ok, seems that it's only me having the conversation ;o)
I apologize for the thread location - it doesn't seem to be related strictly to WM6 anymore as I...
...installed WM5 and did some tests:
(I have voice mail switched off)
- Call waiting enabled = no calls allowed when GPRS active
- Call waiting disabled = no calls when transferring data (large file) but received when no transfer
- Used W660i SonyEricsson handset - could receive calls regardless of GPRS activity
Rang T-Mobile tech support where they told me that this is network feature that when internet connection is active no calls are allowed and since my voicemail is turned off all callers get message that my phone is switched off. In the light of GPRS specification and my tests this is a bull****.
Now I'm asking anyone on UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk and who wants to help - please do such test. Just try to call your number from different phone when opening a web-page.
This is pretty important to me - I need internet on the move and don't want to get rid of my MDA.
Thanks in advance!

Hi there,
I'm on T-Mobile UK too and I ran some tests myself and found that you are absolutely correct. When you transfer data you cannot receive phone calls.
I've got an O2 device with me I can do some more tests on and I'll also try and borrow my Wife's Samsung and test that too. I'll post my findings here.
Cheers
Alex

ok, i've just tested this on an O2 3G device and there was no problem, next to try a none windows mobile t-mobile phone.

seems this problem has been around for while and on other networks.
http://www.freenfo.net/mobile/archive/index-t-64022.html

ok, final test and conclusion.
I tested the same o2 phone as above but in a NON 3g area (i.e. gprs only) and found the exact same issue.
conclusion: this seems to affect all types of phone and multiple networks but only when using gprs NOT 3g.
I'm suprised we havent heard more about this problem.
cheers
Alex

Thank you Alex very much for your help.
I did some research on the topic last night and found the same info as guys in the thread your linked. It must be that T-Mobile UK operates in NOM-2, which allows to suspend GPRS session only when no data is transferred. When packets are transmitted the device doesn't 'see' incoming calls as it's 'busy' with dealing with the packets. NOM-1 is 'able' to encapsulate information about incoming call into one of the packets and the device is notified about - so it can react, suspend the transmission and pick up the call.
The fact is that our MDA/Artemis uses Class B of GPRS which doesn't allow simultaneous CDA/GPRS at the same time. Even if it can suspend active data transfer it is the network that has to support that feature.
What I must notice is that I had lot more problems wiht this when I was using WM6. It seems that there were some packets transmitted by the system or something. I had my mail set to check servers every 15 mins at the beginning but lately ony once an hour or two. Other soft that could transmit anything was Weather module from SPB or Touch. Now when I'm on WM5 and was checking the issue during loading a page I was unavailable but as soon as a page was completely loaded my phone was accessible back.
My surprise is that if the 'issue' seems to be quite normal and there is nothing to do about it why I couldn't find any info about it here. Doesn't it affect anyone of our community?
I may be wrong with the WM6 expirience but still. If WM6 works fine in that respect it must have happened that someone missed a call when browsing the net.

i hadnt noticed to be honest

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i hadnt noticed to be honest
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Did you try ringing your phone when it was loading a long page or downloading a file?

TBH I think I've noticed it just as much on WM6 as I did (or didn't) on WM5, I think I put these odd voice mails turning up down to weird WM issues! Now I know the truth though.
Obv. there isn't a lot we can do about this and I'm not prepared to turn off my Windows Live Mail or my direct push. I think we just have to wait until our contracts are up for renewal and get over to a 3G device - I'm liking the look of the Touch Cruise myself, or the Touch Dual if I want that keyboard back and by the time my contract is up I think they should be on T-Mob UK.

does the same thing happen in Edge areas or as that rolls out will the problem disappear?

I'm not sure about how EDGE works but the problem affects GPRS rather than 3G due to the fact that GPRS and the incoming call are submitted alongside each other and 3G is seperate. I don't think t-mob uk have edge running yet so I can't test, perhpas some else can test for us.

Bro.. My first 3rd party ROM is the Touch 3.0.. and yes.. my connnection did go off once a while (no bars as well).. that was kinda irritating. I have to go to connection manager and toggle my data connection or something like that, before my phone will get the GSM signal.
And yea.. the original WM5 and WM6 have no such issues.. I wonder if this is because of the new radio version..

Calls if only Wifi is on?

I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel

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I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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hahahahahaha You are sooooo lost! you dont know how the network works and i'd bet your paying big time for phone service hahaha oh man thats funy..... ok ok ill tell you how it works its called VOIP or Voice Over Internet Protocol meaning you will use the internet for making phone calls such as a wifi connection ever heard of phone company VONAGE ? (if your american) well its something like that you will need an internet connection such as a wifi connection and you will only be able to make call when you are connected to to THAT wifi connection you cannot go around and make calls because you will get disconnected from the wifi after you got connected to a wifi spot you will need a service provider I sudgest www.skype.com actually skype rocks its really cheap its like 3 dlls for unlimited usa and 10 dlls for unlimited world or you can get prepaid after that you will need to subcribe and download skype for windows mobile smatphone install the app acess your skype acc and then make a phone call on your wifi network.........
that should save you some money however the thing that sucks about it its that you need to have a wifi connection for it to work or you can get edge or 3g network but you cant i think if your not on your home area....
I sudgest getting your phone sim unlock you can get one for free by contacting tmobile ask for a sim unlock and just use a local sim card you would pay much less than with roaming and you would not need a wifi connections to make phone calls.
if you got more questions just poste hope it helps.......

It actually works
I obtained a t-mobile dash recently and I am having a similar issue. The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work.

themitch - Considering the HTC Dash will not work on the T-Mobile hotspot service and will not make VOIP calls without considerable modifications (unless you install skype or another third party voip client) you are blowing smoke. The HTC Dash simply does not have the software or the hardware to connect to a wifi hotspot for calls without help.
Now you can modify the Dash to work on the T-Mo at home service (and other wifi networks) but it requires installing some files, editing the registry and knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash.
Anyway,

Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.

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Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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Have you done a hard-reset or tryed another ROM?

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Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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The Dash does not have the hardware or software to make calls over the internet or wifi (without considerable help) not to mention the EDGE / GPRS network is specifically designed to make this next to impossible to happen.
Are you sure your not turning on and off the PHONE radio, turning on the wifi will NOT detect a GSM or EDGE network the hardware in the phone does not work that way.
Now it is possible you have the one in a billion HTC Dashes that can do this lol but I doubt it. Proof? its called Video bro, take a video of what your phone does and share it up

VoIP
I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP

cya said:
I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP
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We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why.
Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know

I give up reading as just persumed he could only talk celular "not voip", when wi-fi is on...???

morfic said:
I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
cya

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My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
cya
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And as stated you can not make VOIP calls with out system modifications, as you show here (and as I stated) you need to install third party applications and cab files which modify the HTC Dash system. Thus, the answer is NO the T-Mobile rep is quite wrong, the HTC Dash as recieved from T-Mobile will NOT make WiFi / VOIP calls out of the box.
I would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult.

Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style

cya said:
Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style
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Happy to oblige ya then.
See morfic said "I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well) And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
As stated time and time again, the T-Mobile rep is wrong no HTC Dash sold will work out of the box over IP (voip) nor will it work on the Hotspot, nor will you be able to circumvent roaming by connecting over WiFi for calls, it cant happen. As further evidence that this is the topic of 'debate' themitch said he had a similar problem, thus this promted the entire rest of the discussion where I already stated you need to modify the Dash and use third party software, something a T-Mobile rep will never recommend nor suggest you do... not to mention I did say to you "We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why."
so just where does your oh so unnecessary replies come in here? You simply restated what was already stated and it was not relevant to the actual discussion that themitch, morfic and I were having... so yeah, pay attention.. it helps

Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.

Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.

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Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.
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Aww thats cute.
Its not a wild leap if you actually read what he wrote. Obviously the T-Mo rep thought the Dash was set up for use on the WiFi @Home service (like many of T-Mos current phones) and gave incorrect information. I cleared it up for him that its not and wont make voip calls without help. You got your feelings hurt when it was pointed out your not contributing to the discussion. Using 'big words' now is not helping your case.

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Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.
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I guess you forgot you made the claim "The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work." Now that would seem you are saying what you wrote, that your Dash makes calls over the access point, in other words WiFi. What you wrote here clearly infers your Newly acquired Dash makes voip calls and not normal radio calls. Perhaps you should take more care in what you write to avoid this type of miscommunication in the future huh?
A video would be great.. lets see if it ever surfaces lol

A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?

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A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?
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Umm yeah, whats next your daddy can beat up my daddy? lol
Whatever.

Missed Calls on the HTC Desire

I've had a few reports of people telling me that I never answer my phone and it just rings and goes to voicemail.
Last night a friend called me to test this theory and it went straight to voicemail. It seems that 90% of my calls come through fine but the occasional one doesn't!
I've been testing it a lot in the last 12 hours and I can't seem to recreate the problem - I'm not sure if the cellular radio within the phone is hanging if it hasn't been used for a while?
Anyway - anyone else had this?

What kind of signal are you getting when occurs? (G, E, 3G, H etc)
If you are only receiving a 2G signal (G or E), if your phone is actively using data you will not receive calls because you cannot use voice and data simultaneously, and there seems to be no prioritization of voice over data.
If you are getting 3G, this isn't your issue since you should be able to have simultaneous voice and data!
Regards,
Dave

Good Point - i'm not sure, mu phone is almost always H but i suppose it could occasioinally drop.
I will experiment - thanks for the answer.

Is there an app or something that will only allow for 3g connections - thus preventing my phone from accessing data when only a 2g is available and stoip me missing calls?

This is a network issue, not a phone issue.

Network issue as in fixable with a phone call to T-mobile?
Or network issue as in unfixable?

This is a t-mobile problem. They have not found a solution to the problem yet.

I'm with Orange UK and 9 out of 10 calls go straight to the voice mail, I know that 2G cant cope with data and voice at the same time but Im having this problem with a strong 3G signal!!! The only time im not having this issue is when the phone gets a H signal (not very often,though).
Any one hahing the same problem??

This isn't related to your problem but is a general missed calls questions.
When i get a missed call i drag the task bar down and it will say for example "missed call from 07123123123". Obviously this isn't very useful since i don't know the number of every contact in my phone! So my question is is there a way to get the phone to say for example "missed call from John Smith"

mine does this.
it says: missed call from contact X as long as the number is assigned to contact X.
I have a T-mobile Version as well, but did not have any issues with missed calls

I'm struggling to find any other phones that conistantly show the same problem, but several threads reporting the it happening on the Desire. This is a worrying sign in my book.
Have a read of this thread. You'll see that other phones don't report the missed call problem but the Desire does.
(I can't post links so just google for "desire Not receiving calls when browsing on GPRS" and click the first link which is for "Android Forums").
Is there any one here who can do some low level testing on this? I expect it would be quite a tricky job but it would be worth doing.
/mub

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Is there an app or something that will only allow for 3g connections - thus preventing my phone from accessing data when only a 2g is available and stoip me missing calls?
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That would be quite useful imho!

I had that problem too. However after rooting the phone and flashing the newest radio 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2, the problem was completely gone.

Thats interesting. How long have you been running it for?

I flashed the new radio about a week ago and after that I could pick up all calls. (My carrier sends an sms every time someone calls but cannot be picked up) However the past two three days, I started tinkering with my phone again; flashing new roms and kernels. Thus these pass two three days, I did have some calls that went directly into voicemail, but all the calls registered on my phones as missed calls (+ i still get the SMSs). Which is better than before.
Give me another week to play around with the phone. Also a newer radio is out. However, I have not tested it yet.

alio993 said:
This isn't related to your problem but is a general missed calls questions.
When i get a missed call i drag the task bar down and it will say for example "missed call from 07123123123". Obviously this isn't very useful since i don't know the number of every contact in my phone! So my question is is there a way to get the phone to say for example "missed call from John Smith"
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I just signed up for Hullomail, It replaces my Orange voicemail, and gets my contacts from Google to tell me who called
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

manuelwt said:
I'm with Orange UK and 9 out of 10 calls go straight to the voice mail, I know that 2G cant cope with data and voice at the same time but Im having this problem with a strong 3G signal!!! The only time im not having this issue is when the phone gets a H signal (not very often,though).
Any one hahing the same problem??
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Same probem here, seems like my phone is always poping from H to 3g but I can't text or call while its flicking between the too. When im on wifi problem is fine or if I switch mobie internet off.
I am on Orange using a debranded phone with 2.1 update 1 instaled.
radio is 32.36.00.28u_4.06.00.02_2 i think thats the radio anyway

Bizarrely enough is this issue only effection those on Orange or something??
Please everyone post up your network provider and your location in the UK

This could well be a Orange / T-mobile issue as they are currently upgrading all there masts, as the two companies join, My desire has only dropped about 10% of calls but my wifes LG 620 ( android ) is a definite 50/50....
Only time will tell.........

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This could well be a Orange / T-mobile issue as they are currently upgrading all there masts, as the two companies join, My desire has only dropped about 10% of calls but my wifes LG 620 ( android ) is a definite 50/50....
Only time will tell.........
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Ya beat me to that lol just saw the news,,,,, I'd sit back and wait while the work is completed

Desire drops call after a moment

Hi guys, I have a strange problem.
Sometimes when I try to call someone, the phone cuts off the connection right before it should vibrate to signal that the phone was answered. This means I can hear the other side picking the phone up, but I hear like "H" (sharp, short) when they try to say "hello". No matter whether I have phone by my ear or laying on the table, sometimes it cuts off, other times it doesn't. When I make the call again, it works.
This started to happening to me since I've updated my sw version to 1.21, when it was 1.15, it worked like a charm. For the last 4 days I tried to make 3 calls, every one of them was cut out and worked on the second try.
Anyone has the same problem/knows the solution?
Thank you very much, It's annoying as hell since every call costs me twice
EDIT: I'm using stock ROM, updated with OTA, no root
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Sorry for my English, I'm Czech.

Really? No one?

desire drops calls after a few seconds
Hi!
I've the same problem, since today - very annoying. All start with a call from a friend and after I said "hello" the call ends, but network connection was fine (4 bars). After that I tried to call him back 10 times, every time the same thing - call drops after 1-3 seconds.
A Reboot solved the problem for one time, next call same issue. Tried my sim in the HTC Wildfire of my colleague - same network, everything is fine.
Now I started to uninstall all Taskkiller and other apps i recently added - no change. After 30 min try and error I realised that if I turn of the "Mobile Internet" and therefore the 3g connection, it works better.
anyone have a clue what this could cause?

Joint the club.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712030
Mine does exactly the same thing... first of all I thought it was the phone... returned it... new phone, different sim.... same problem.

Geeba have you tried to turn off "mobile internet"?
After my problems yesterday I turned it off and since that no call was dropped!!
Maybe its some sort of concurrent use of 3g Network and the data threads kill the call ... actually I'm no expert in Mobile Networks.
I'm looking forward to Froyo and hope to get rid of the probs.

Minos - yes I have turned off the 3g - but I then have internet connection problems... pretty pointless having a smart phone that has no internet access..
But yes it does help... the Desire I think should be able to monitor the two signals and switch between them accordingly .... but it doesn't. my Mrs has the Hero... it doesn't suffer this problem so personally I think its a problem with the desire.... I'm going to wait till Froyo then if its no better there will be a nice unbranded black Desire gracing ebay!

had the same issue for a few days then i uninstalled juice defender and i havnt had a single dropped call after

I have had the same issue. And then I have read somewhere here what to do.
You must first enter the phone's debug menu: *#*#4636#*#*
Then Choose "Phone Info", scroll down to" Set preferred network type" and set this to GSM auto (PRL). For me it solved all the call drop problem. As you are on different network maybe some other setting will work for you but it might worth to take a try with it.
I am not exactly sure what this sets. One thing is sure I still have 3G and HSUPA connection - and all type of connection works like charm. So nothing changed just no more call drops since then.

benoke: Thanks for your idea, actually my Desire is now beying hospitalized as it had dust under the screen, anyway I reported dropping calls as an issue too while returning in warranty so we'll see what happens

i sent a support question to htc and got that answer:
"Thank you for contacting HTC. In regards to your question, I can help you with that. It does indeed sound like a hardware fault, I would be grateful if you would call our tech-suooprt team and let our agents arrange the return / repair of this device for you. If you could just call 0845 890 0079, we can arrange the collection. I trust that this resolves your query. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required."
But I don't think its an HW issue.
@benoke: the GSM auto setting worked - four 1h now.

Minos: it is good to hear that it might work for you too. I have recommended it to some of my friends and they all say it works for them.. so it really seems like solution...

Try the new version 5.09x radio in the android development in desire forum to see if that miight help
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Haven't found a way to solve this issue yet. They told me at the service station that this is unrepairable issue occuring only with some SIM cards and that they would give me a refund.
I'm buying HTC Desire HD when it is available...

HELP! constant echo every time im on the phone

Every time I am on the phone with someone I have a terrible echo! its driving me crazy its actually causing me to hate my phone!
I always have full service and it doesn't matter where I am it still happens.
is there anything i can do? is it defective?

toughcookie said:
Every time I am on the phone with someone I have a terrible echo! its driving me crazy its actually causing me to hate my phone!
I always have full service and it doesn't matter where I am it still happens.
is there anything i can do? is it defective?
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I had this issue on several phones and networks. It would come and go. Try this: download Skype. Get another android user on your network to download Skype (do all the setup stuff you need to). Each of you get on a good wifi network then make a voice call. Then call the same person as a normal cellphone call. If the noise goes away on Skype but remains on cell network then I would say it's the network (or the phones antenna but only if it's consistently doing this in every area); then I would address it with them. I haven't had the issue since all the new towers went up in my area.
Oh and one more thing, try removing any case you've added; or putting your hand in a different spot....you know in case your actually a terminator that isn't aware your bones were replaced with meta.

crap, i didnt fix it

jeffdaman said:
I had this issue on several phones and networks. It would come and go. Try this: download Skype. Get another android user on your network to download Skype (do all the setup stuff you need to). Each of you get on a good wifi network then make a voice call. Then call the same person as a normal cellphone call. If the noise goes away on Skype but remains on cell network then I would say it's the network (or the phones antenna but only if it's consistently doing this in every area); then I would address it with them. I haven't had the issue since all the new towers went up in my area.
Oh and one more thing, try removing any case you've added; or putting your hand in a different spot....you know in case your actually a terminator that isn't aware your bones were replaced with meta.
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i'll have to try that tomorrow. I think it only started when they turned on LTE down here