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Upgrading rom is necessary re-install all programs again?

As told in object, when i'm upgrading the Tytn rom (the same family rom) how can i install all the programs by backup file?
Or have i to install them from the beginning?

The hard and fast answer is imagine reinstalling windows on your pc... Would you have to reinstall all the programs? So, the answer is yes. However, you can try Settings Savior, a program created by a member of this forum that will automatically reinstall programs for you as well as resets your settings... check out the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308100&highlight=settings+saviour to see what I'm talking about.

YES, if you will have to. Best is to back up your data. Save you some effort
napolibit said:
As told in object, when i'm upgrading the Tytn rom (the same family rom) how can i install all the programs by backup file?
Or have i to install them from the beginning?
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But, if i make a backup file of programs installed and i'm upgrading my tytn from a rom version to another rom version of the same kind (Schap's 3.57a to 3.57b, for example) when i'll upload the backup file are there difference on register key of windows system.
I'm asking for knowing if the programs can running without problems about difference of register key from old rom version to new.

no.
you must reinstall as the registry keys needed will not be there.
use settingsaviour as the first reply said and it makes it very quick though.

after a ROM flash?

What is the easiest way to get all of my settings contacts and e-mail settings back on my phone after I do a Rom upgrade?

use a backup utility before you re flash

Will a back up remember all the programs and contacts and mail settings?

I'm by no means an expert, but it was my impression that it was not a good idea to restore a backup onto a new rom. Things are not necesarily in the same place and it can cause problems. That being said i don't really know of any solutions for you.

Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.

if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!

cortez.i said:
if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!
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THANK YOU CORTEZ!!! See I am totally new at this and its a damn good thing I dident listen to people that think they know what they are talking about.
It's outlook that i am useing. Last time I had to call me network administrator from the offi ce to get my e-mail running again. How can I save those settings?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Spb Backup has been incredibly buggy for me on my Telus Touch... does it work well for anyone else?
It freezes unless I do this: back up my documents only, turn off the option to create an exe and don't use encryption.

spb back up and ROM upgrade
so,on the telus touch,have you tried the rom upgrade and used spb backup to restore?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Alright, I've been able to use Spb Backup now, and it is great! You can restore on a different ROM or device!

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this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?

imradar said:
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?
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Not dumb, there are always questions when you install new software. But, this is another great feature of Spb Backup, it creates self-extracting restore files, with an option to create a copy of the software as well. So install it to your main memory, and have the files kept on your card. Whenever you need to restore, just run the file, you don't even need the app installed. Also includes a desktop sync app.

Rom update
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!

imradar said:
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!
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No prob, almost forgot to mention, after restoring the data, your PC will recognize it as it did before. I really like this feature, thought all my data was going to be duplicated.

Keeping software when upgrading rom

Hi,
I've got my diamond flashed to 3.4 duttys. It's really good but I do have a few problems with it. Sometimes when you hold the hang up key to lock it it simply scrolls through the touch flo screens. I was thinking I might upgrade to 3.6 and see if that ironed out the problems. Only thing is I've got a few apps on there that i'd prefer not to lose and reinstall at the moment. Is there a way to back up all apps before flashing? I don't think PIM does it? From what I can see it's just contacts etc.
Thanks for any help

supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en

rpassmore said:
supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
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don not restore with sprite backuup.
just use pim backup for your contacts, ...

Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks

cshelswell said:
Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks
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SPB definitely works. I would suggest unticking the "overwrite" box when selecting ROM upgrade mode.

TBH I'd personally say just get used to it, until you find the perfect rom you are likely to change again.
Keep all the .cab's .exe's etc in a folder on the internal storage and reinstall the ones you want, it's a good way to keep the device tidy, and I think you'll probably find that you'll have to reinstall quite a few programs as you might find they keep their data spread around the filesystem.

Is sdkcerts.cab harmful????

Just to be sure and calm
I want to install this for some stuff..but I am not usre if this is safe...is it?
please let me know...
dont want to mess my blackstone baby....thanks people

it's mentioned in quite a few places but thus is quote I found
"Description: The developer certificates were left out of this Shadow ROM, but the certificates were built into previous Black ROMs. You will need this to run certain applications and carrier settings (most notably Orange). Tested and working. Just install and it is there when it is needed."

Have used it for quite some time without any problems.
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I've never had an issue with it, and it has been useful.

thanks for replies guys...
i was just worried because lots of people say that thei phone hangs etc and mine is no problem...and i dont want to ruin it...so you know, just was curious if this skdercts could somehow change something in my phone that could result in some failure...
thanks now I know I can use wvga fix

It does cause problems when switching to landscape mode in Opera/SMS after (only when you have run for a few hours). You get funny results, returning back to dial screen for ex.

sdkcerts doesn't cause problems... do you know what an SDK is? its a developers pack. Do you know what a signed program is? Commercial programs are usually signed. certifying their integrity. Most freeware isnt. problem is the phone is picky about allowing unsigned apps, or programs modification of signed apps. sdkcert is a developers certificate so the phone accepts unsigned apps and allows modification due to development status. Many programs you NEED sdkcert installed for them to be allowed to run.

wetete said:
It does cause problems when switching to landscape mode in Opera/SMS after (only when you have run for a few hours). You get funny results, returning back to dial screen for ex.
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If you don't know what you're talking about, you should shut up and not provide wrong information.
SDKcert simply installs "SDK developer" certificate signatures on your phone. Therefore, when you download an application or DLL that is "signed" with one of these "SDK" certificates, your phone won't complain that it's not signed by a known certificate Installing the sdkcerts.cab just makes the phone aware of the way these applications are signed...

Please relax and be polite please. I do have the problem with my HD as I explained. I have read somewhere that one of the ROM had the problem and this was solved by removing this cab. These are the info in my possession and I was just trying to raise the point. I do not have time to get into the heart of this and I do still have the problem....
Now, goodbye.... and I will close my lips on this topic. I do have helped a few others on other stuff, BTW....
Please try to be nice with the others. It makes this site more enjoyable.
Ciao

The reason I have asked about this is that lot of people say that my HD is f*ed up this way and that way...i guess it is because there are lot of noobs out there (I still am bit noobish with WinMO as well ) and they install stuff and uninstall like crazy...
So I just wanted to be sure that this cab wont hurt my phone in any way - regarding warranty/licence/originality of my WinMo/registry/etc...
Because surprinsingly my windows update app doesnt work anymore for example - it cant connect to the update server. Why? It worked when I first turned my phone on (despite no updates were found). Now it doesnt work.
And for example I can make a program, call it SuperAlarm...then you will install it and run it and suddenly you will see a message "Formatting..." What then? Ha? You get my point? Of course this is not the case of sdkcerts, but it might have been
(this was just to descrribe a carefulness, I think that everyone should be careful what is being put on the device)
So that is why I have asked. Lot of programs and stuff just somehow may affect other applications and blahblah...everything is very unexpectable in Windows (and not only win mobile)
So please, no reason to fight etc
I think that this topic can be closed.

Should we Install the - sdkcerts.cab
On Att Tilt 2 ?(Touch Pro2) Windows 6.5
Do I still need it? or not cos we have 6.5 now
Is it a must do ?
or just personal choice ?
Please thxs

Psyberd said:
sdkcerts doesn't cause problems... do you know what an SDK is? its a developers pack. Do you know what a signed program is? Commercial programs are usually signed. certifying their integrity. Most freeware isnt. problem is the phone is picky about allowing unsigned apps, or programs modification of signed apps. sdkcert is a developers certificate so the phone accepts unsigned apps and allows modification due to development status. Many programs you NEED sdkcert installed for them to be allowed to run.
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Thanks man was searching for an explanation regarding this and the information was very useful. thanks again..

I got F***ed up by this file ! needed a hard rest !!

fivezan said:
I got F***ed up by this file ! needed a hard rest !!
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Which phone do u have
& which Windows are you useing
WM 6 or 6.5
so others can be helped by it
thanks

sdkcerts is a great registry tweak and we should thank to its finder. Not even that it's not harmful, but speares you of unexpected stalls and hard resets.

But if your running a cust. Rom you don't need it. From what I have use.

new camera wont load, media player won install

The new camera will not load at all, and if I uninstall the new camera, I don't have a camera anymore. Where can I get the cab to reinstall old camera?
Also the media player panel will not install with sdkcerts, activex deployment, and panel manager.
And what is the point Jack's Xperia Panel? It doesn't install, and it already came with the device, and you can't even uninstall it. So why is there a cab for a panel that can't be uninstalled or moved to another panel?
Help?

having very similar problems, even after a hard reset...

x1Kofi said:
having very similar problems, even after a hard reset...
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You know...that's why you MUST get the latest version of Sprite Backup for Pocket PC...
I have used it three times now, and every time I get back everything 100% the way it was. There is absolutely no incompatibility even after an R2A update...
That's how I fixed my camera problem without needing to reformat and reinstall like 50 of my applications/games!

poetryrocksalot said:
The new camera will not load at all, and if I uninstall the new camera, I don't have a camera anymore. Where can I get the cab to reinstall old camera?
Also the media player panel will not install with sdkcerts, activex deployment, and panel manager.
And what is the point Jack's Xperia Panel? It doesn't install, and it already came with the device, and you can't even uninstall it. So why is there a cab for a panel that can't be uninstalled or moved to another panel?
Help?
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Are you serious man? I intend to install the new camera but i will need to cosider & chck carefully now. Anyone can tell that there is no problem with new panels, app like cam?

nguyenkhanhhoang said:
Are you serious man? I intend to install the new camera but i will need to cosider & chck carefully now. Anyone can tell that there is no problem with new panels, app like cam?
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Of course I am serious, but I believe this is only because I install so many applications, last time I had 40 megabytes left for application space, so I had to remove alot of applications (even though I didn't want to). It must be a registry problem caused by my applications.
So DO NOT UNINSTALL any of the CABs once you install these. Even panel manager R3A because once you do it you can't go back. If you uninstall the new panel manager you can't open it either.
BTW panel manager works, its faster but it freezes my device more frequently.
Mr Nguyen, as a Nguyen myself, you can trust in my experience with the reliability of Sprite Backup, if you want to see if the new camera works, install sprite first and make a full device memory backup (also backsup program settings + registry). After you install sprite, you can mess with your device with no fear.
I hope you consider the program. I love it!

poetryrocksalot said:
Of course I am serious, but I believe this is only because I install so many applications, last time I had 40 megabytes left for application space, so I had to remove alot of applications (even though I didn't want to). It must be a registry problem caused by my applications.
So DO NOT UNINSTALL any of the CABs once you install these. Even panel manager R3A because once you do it you can't go back. If you uninstall the new panel manager you can't open it either.
BTW panel manager works, its faster but it freezes my device more frequently.
Mr Nguyen, as a Nguyen myself, you can't trust in my experience with the reliability of Sprite Backup, if you want to see if the new camera works, install sprite first and make a full device memory backup (also backsup program settings + registry). After you install sprite, you can mess with your device with no fear.
I hope you consider the program. I love it!
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Ok, i will take note abt this

poetryrocksalot said:
And what is the point Jack's Xperia Panel? It doesn't install, and it already came with the device, and you can't even uninstall it. So why is there a cab for a panel that can't be uninstalled or moved to another panel?
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what the hack are you talking about? My Xperia panel cab is solely for people using my rom since it's removed from my rom by default, and I released it on my own thread and no where else (but I have no control if anyone use it on other thread). If some fool did not read and verify carefully, and did not making backup (SPB backup never failed me so far) before he/she take the risk, then who's fault is it?

jackleung said:
what the hack are you talking about? My Xperia panel cab is solely for people using my rom since it's removed from my rom by default, and I released it on my own thread and no where else (but I have no control if anyone use it on other thread). If some fool did not read and verify carefully, and did not making backup (SPB backup never failed me so far) before he/she take the risk, then who's fault is it?
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Sorry Jack, I had absolutely no idea that it was custom roms.
The confusion came from the fact that it is possible to uninstall SE Media Panel and the X1 Radio Panel.
And whether your ROM is R1A or R2A, you need SKTools to search for the cab in the internal memory or something, OR you can use the cabs uploaded here.
This is very useful since SE Media Player and Radio can be accidentally installed.
Also, sometimes I get confused as too which .cabs are compatible and work for which phones... and I don't search the entire forum archive so I don't know everything.

my media panel doesn't load - only blue screen shot and... : (