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Total data backup

Hi all,
I have flashed my Universal several times so far, and every time I did so, I have lost some of my data or had problems with backing them up and restoring them again. What I lost were, for example, all the calendar events and tasks, because AS recognized my phone as a new one and didn't let me restore backup from the "old" one. I managed to successfully backup my SMSes, but when I restored them, each of them was restored twice, and as I never delete messages I send and receive, deleting all the duplicates one by one would take about two eternities. Oh and of course I had to reinstall all my apps and games and lost all the topscores I spent ages making.
Anyway, what I want to say is that while backing up all the data could make problems to an ordinary user, I'm sure that there are some gurus that handle this with no problems, so..could any of them possibly write a tutorial on backing up all the data from important contacts to not-so-importnant-but-still-desired game scores? I know that what I'm asking for is pretty comprehensive and would take some time, but I'm sure that many users would benefit from such article. Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and decides to reply or help
Longlife

As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?

eddieorz said:
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
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Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM

lol remind me to use sprite backup after iv re installed and downloaded al my apps after updating to windows 6 doh

MrMiguel said:
Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
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Sounds pretty good..I'll check it out for sure thx

Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife

Longlife said:
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
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Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa

Please USE the forum search engine and READ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037 - it answers ALL your questions.

MrMiguel said:
Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
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I have no idea what I downloaded then I tried to backtrack the site I got it from so I could read the decription again, but I didn't find it. Anyway, it was saying that it's for WM5 and as I have HTC Universal running WM5, I thought that is should work. Now, I got SKTools though, which are free and seem pretty cool (I just hope I will be able to restore the backup I made, once i need it )

Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.

AlanJC said:
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
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Umm, sorry if this question is stupid, but what should I use to backup my data when flashing a new ROM then? The idea of getting a new ROM BUT losing all my data doesn't sound very good to me. Thanks,
Longlife

after a ROM flash?

What is the easiest way to get all of my settings contacts and e-mail settings back on my phone after I do a Rom upgrade?

use a backup utility before you re flash

Will a back up remember all the programs and contacts and mail settings?

I'm by no means an expert, but it was my impression that it was not a good idea to restore a backup onto a new rom. Things are not necesarily in the same place and it can cause problems. That being said i don't really know of any solutions for you.

Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.

if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!

cortez.i said:
if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!
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THANK YOU CORTEZ!!! See I am totally new at this and its a damn good thing I dident listen to people that think they know what they are talking about.
It's outlook that i am useing. Last time I had to call me network administrator from the offi ce to get my e-mail running again. How can I save those settings?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Spb Backup has been incredibly buggy for me on my Telus Touch... does it work well for anyone else?
It freezes unless I do this: back up my documents only, turn off the option to create an exe and don't use encryption.

spb back up and ROM upgrade
so,on the telus touch,have you tried the rom upgrade and used spb backup to restore?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Alright, I've been able to use Spb Backup now, and it is great! You can restore on a different ROM or device!

spb back up and rom update
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?

imradar said:
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?
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Not dumb, there are always questions when you install new software. But, this is another great feature of Spb Backup, it creates self-extracting restore files, with an option to create a copy of the software as well. So install it to your main memory, and have the files kept on your card. Whenever you need to restore, just run the file, you don't even need the app installed. Also includes a desktop sync app.

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Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!

imradar said:
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!
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No prob, almost forgot to mention, after restoring the data, your PC will recognize it as it did before. I really like this feature, thought all my data was going to be duplicated.

Keeping software when upgrading rom

Hi,
I've got my diamond flashed to 3.4 duttys. It's really good but I do have a few problems with it. Sometimes when you hold the hang up key to lock it it simply scrolls through the touch flo screens. I was thinking I might upgrade to 3.6 and see if that ironed out the problems. Only thing is I've got a few apps on there that i'd prefer not to lose and reinstall at the moment. Is there a way to back up all apps before flashing? I don't think PIM does it? From what I can see it's just contacts etc.
Thanks for any help

supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en

rpassmore said:
supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
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don not restore with sprite backuup.
just use pim backup for your contacts, ...

Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks

cshelswell said:
Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks
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SPB definitely works. I would suggest unticking the "overwrite" box when selecting ROM upgrade mode.

TBH I'd personally say just get used to it, until you find the perfect rom you are likely to change again.
Keep all the .cab's .exe's etc in a folder on the internal storage and reinstall the ones you want, it's a good way to keep the device tidy, and I think you'll probably find that you'll have to reinstall quite a few programs as you might find they keep their data spread around the filesystem.

Can you join Cab files?

I currently have about 30 programs installed on my mobile. I would like to simplify the installation process of these after a Hardreset. Is it possible to mrge them into one single Cab which will install all of the applications? Or will they then show up as only one item in the software list if I do this?

Firefall! said:
I currently have about 30 programs installed on my mobile. I would like to simplify the installation process of these after a Hardreset. Is it possible to mrge them into one single Cab which will install all of the applications? Or will they then show up as only one item in the software list if I do this?
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no you can't !

U can use a back up utility like sprite(Free with THD don't know about Xperia) or resco backup. Create a backup after installing all the apps U need and save it as a executable backup or as a back up set on the card. u can copy it in ur desktop also. Now anytime after a hard reset u can install those backed up apps without any other data. of course it may not work if U flash a new ROM etc.

One thing you can try is to look to see how UC works and set your cabs up that way..
You can then run it manually, copy sdconfig to /windows and run it. this way you should be able to manually run UC after installing any rom (even if it doesn't support it such as stock roms).

fards said:
One thing you can try is to look to see how UC works and set your cabs up that way..
You can then run it manually, copy sdconfig to /windows and run it. this way you should be able to manually run UC after installing any rom (even if it doesn't support it such as stock roms).
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What's UC?

Umm u all mean this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372309
or this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366333
or this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411988
Im not a Cook so i dont really know how to 'cook' that thing to rom/device..
Just my 2cents, im very frustrated with re-installing all my apps everytime i upgrade to a newer version of rom. It's just pain in the ass.. Maybe the cookers can 'kindly' include the baby above in the rom. That's going to save the user alot of trouble..
=_= ~!

dancemacabre said:
Umm u all mean this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372309
or this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366333
or this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411988
Im not a Cook so i dont really know how to 'cook' that thing to rom/device..
Just my 2cents, im very frustrated with re-installing all my apps everytime i upgrade to a newer version of rom. It's just pain in the ass.. Maybe the cookers can 'kindly' include the baby above in the rom. That's going to save the user alot of trouble..
=_= ~!
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main problem with cooking uc in is that it massively increases the amount of 'bugs' in a rom:
99% of the time they're down to 3rd party software and having stuff installed blindy makes things worse...
if you can get it running manually (after you've tested a new rom for a bit) then why not do that? it'll only take one click then...

Like Norton Ghost for Windows Mobile?

Hello,
is it possible to make a image of a running WinMo and restore it after testing some other Roms?
A Program like Norton Ghost?
Thanks

try spb backup

A lot of backup software out there, including SPB Backup as mentioned above. Just try searching under 'backup'. However for these to work you would first need to flash back the rom of which you performed the backup on, i.e. If your using Throys V4.1 and perform a backup and then flash Throys R12. To get back to the orginal you would first need to reflash V4.1 and then perform restore using backup software.
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum as not related to rom development

I too would be intrested in an imaging software as my company is currently thinking about using win mob devices and it'll be super-sweet if i didn't have to set them all up on their own!!
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
Arh well. We can dream can't we??

blastman said:
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
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This is what i want.
I heard about Sprite Backup, but is it true, that i have to install all the applications again or will the backup restore all my applications too?
Greets

PaschaD said:
This is what i want.
I heard about Sprite Backup, but is it true, that i have to install all the applications again or will the backup restore all my applications too?
Greets
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I use spb backup, once you have flashed your rom, installed all apps, done all your personal settings, backup with it.
To restore your phone you just do a hard reset, then browse to a single backup file, click it and spb restores it.
I use it to restore my phone after testing new apps etc.
And when I flash a new rom I do the following :
1. Flash rom
2. Install spb backup and a few safe apps
3. Backup
4. Install rest of apps and register all paid for apps
5. Backup again
6. Change all system settings/personal settings
7. Backup again
8. Re-check settings and make sure everthing works
9. Make final backup
10. Install games
11. Make backup with games on
This way I can easily go back a step if anything goes wrong when tweaking manila etc, and after about a week I delete all backups apart from 9 & 11, so I can easily get rid of any games once I've finished playing them.
You can't deploy a custom image onto multiple handsets with spb backup though, for this you would need sprite/spb cloning software which is considerably more expensive.
Hope I've been of some help, Dave.

SPB Clone
blastman said:
I too would be intrested in an imaging software as my company is currently thinking about using win mob devices and it'll be super-sweet if i didn't have to set them all up on their own!!
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
Arh well. We can dream can't we??
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You Need SPB Clone check it on their website

SPB Clone
***Sorry Double Post***

Thank both of you.
I will try SPB Clone and the way of ferraridave.
Regards

yeah sure, for $300 I think I'll pass