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Good news ! Free IM client for Cingular users

Instant Messenger Application Now Available for Cingular 8500/8525 and TREO 750!
START AND END DATE:
4/23/2007 - Ongoing
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OVERVIEW:
The Instant Messaging application, currently found on the E62 and Blackjack, is now available via download for the Cingular 8500/8525 and Treo 750. Customers will be able to enjoy access to Yahoo! Messenger, AOL Instant Messaging (AIM), and Windows Live Messenger communities through one user interface. In the future all new PDAs and Smartphones will launch with the Instant Messaging application preloaded.
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KEY SELLING POINTS:
· Mobile IM from AT&T Mobility offers customers a familiar desktop-like IM experience with features that include existing community user names and passwords, a chat conversation window, buddy lists, presence status, and emoticons.
· Mobile IM offers an immediate, yet informal communication option that other communications cannot provide (e.g. voice, email, text messaging). Consumers can extend their desktop IM community to their mobile device and vice versa (Mobile-to-PC and PC-to-Mobile, and Mobile-to-Mobile IM communications), enjoy 24/7 instant connectivity to their contacts, and communicate in environments that are not conducive to traditional voice conversations.
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COMPETITIVE INFO — THE CINGULAR ADVANTAGE:
T-Mobile, Sprint/Nextel and Verizon all offer an Instant Messaging application on select devices:
· T-Mobile provides an IM application for select PDAs, BlackBerry devices. The client is pre-loaded, and supports AIM, Yahoo!, MSN and ICQ within one application. Customers are charged on a per message basis, or can use from a variety of messaging packages and bundles which include messaging.
· Sprint/Nextel provides an IM application on select “Power Vision” capable phones with support for AIM, MSN, and Yahoo! using separate IM applications. Customers are charged by kilobyte (kb) usage, and can choose from a variety of data bolt-ons that include unlimited IM.
· Verizon provides an IM application on select BlackBerry and “Get-It-Now” capable devices. The application is available via a download, and supports AIM, MSN, and Yahoo! within one application. Customers are charged on a per message basis, or can use from a variety of messaging packages.

Do you have a link to new IM? Or can you tell me how to get it?
thanks

no link as yet? or will we have to wait till the 23rd.

Maybe I'm missing it...
Is this application using sms for IM or data plan?

Does it charge the messages as a text message, or as data?
In other words.. If I have the unlimited DATA plan and NO SMS, will I get unlimited IM or would I need to pay per message sent via. SMS?

Most likely text, I believe that is how the blackjack works.

if this is true, then i'd guess the release of the IM app is related to the expected friday (4/20) announcement for unlimited SMS/MMS on cingular/att. the existing $19.99 messaging extreme 3000 package will apparently become messaging unlimited.
engadget report
att sales brief pdf

Here is the link that showed me how to download it. Basically you need to download the file through MEdia Net from your phone. It's a cab file.
http://www.cingular.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq-instant-messaging.jsp#find

here is the 8525 aim cabfile... Its the one from cingular.. it seems like a nice app but for some reason i am not unable to receive ims from ppl when i tested it... also maybe someone can hack it and MAKE IT USE DATA
i know someone here can do it so there ya go

to answer your question.... there is a program that u can use that does just use your data plan, its called imov messenger there is a free version but I would advise you to pay the $20.00 for the enterprise version......
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
if you need help finding a free version just let me kno

This is the Instant Messenger that I use. I've used them all from IM+ to Verichat, etc... Mundu is very nice. The full version is only $11 USD. It says for smartphone, but it works for WM5/WM6 just like it should. You also have the ability to send files from PPC to users as well.
There is a 5 day free trial if you wanna check it out first...
Mundu Instant Messenger

jg7942 said:
to answer your question.... there is a program that u can use that does just use your data plan, its called imov messenger there is a free version but I would advise you to pay the $20.00 for the enterprise version......
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
if you need help finding a free version just let me kno
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Looks nice plus it uses data..Where can one get the free version?

MrDSL said:
Looks nice plus it uses data..Where can one get the free version?
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http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/imovmessengerbasic.shtml
here ya go.. there are different releases but there are soooo many its hard to find the most up to date. I used this one until I bought enterprise edition.... enterprise edition actually hides the people who are offline.....

jg7942 said:
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/imovmessengerbasic.shtml
here ya go.. there are different releases but there are soooo many its hard to find the most up to date. I used this one until I bought enterprise edition.... enterprise edition actually hides the people who are offline.....
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I use IM on my phone when I'm in a meeting and need to touch base with other techs to get them to fix a server or something. But it doesn't seem real easy to use, and i'm concerned for my battery.
Which IM client seems to have the best interface and battery usage?
Thanks,
Rob

dny238 said:
I use IM on my phone when I'm in a meeting and need to touch base with other techs to get them to fix a server or something. But it doesn't seem real easy to use, and i'm concerned for my battery.
Which IM client seems to have the best interface and battery usage?
Thanks,
Rob
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well i have this program running while im at work all day and it doesnt really drain m battery that much... it also depends on of your in a 3G area or not... when you are using HSDPA/UMTS it consumes alot more battery life than when your you just on an EDGE/GPRS network.... just a thought

IMOV sucks you have to use the stylist for everything it does not have a good user interface..

monkey28rb said:
IMOV sucks you have to use the stylist for everything it does not have a good user interface..
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Yes I have noticed this and I doubt the enterprise version is any different however its a small price to pay for the program using data instead of sms so in effect making it free for me to IM as much as I want.

MrDSL said:
Yes I have noticed this and I doubt the enterprise version is any different however its a small price to pay for the program using data instead of sms so in effect making it free for me to IM as much as I want.
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well since you have cingular you can now get there unlimited messaging the was released on 4/20 and use the aim program that has been discussed in other posts... my 2 cents

jg7942 said:
well since you have cingular you can now get there unlimited messaging the was released on 4/20 and use the aim program that has been discussed in other posts... my 2 cents
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the aim program is still buggy it takes alittle bit to send messages and it does not receive any at all.. plus when you sign on it shows you on as a mobile device..

yea i hear that there are problems with the aim program.... but i havent really tried it out that much, i jus try and live with imov messenger.... if i had the know how or the time i would make an IM client that ran off the jabber service (like imov) but make it a little more user friendly... maybe someone can decompile imov and the IM client and make something miraculous out of it... hmmm. I'll start reading.....

Taking little notes on S620

k, so we all agree that this phone does quite a lot,
but I often find myself wanting to take a few notes, just a line or 2 and I couldnt find a program in my phone that does it...
Is there some kind of notepad or sticky notes for this device on WM5?
Thanks for the help!

Install OneNote. You can install it if you have MS Office installed. Just open up OneNote on the desktop and go to its options and you will see the option to install OneNote Mobile.
Its great. It lets me attach recordings, pictures to notes, as well as jot down quick ones.

There's also PhatNotes for smartphone: http://www.phatware.com/phatnotes/index.html
It's $40, but I've heard it's not bad. I use OneNote Mobile, since I get it free with my work copy of Office 2007. OneNote 2007 costs quite a bit (over $100) to buy separately.

If you can wait for a 1 week, I will post a note application I am currently working on. It will synchronise notes from outlook using active sync. And it will be free

Nexus30 said:
If you can wait for a 1 week, I will post a note application I am currently working on. It will synchronise notes from outlook using active sync. And it will be free
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WHOO HOO!
If you get this working I will gladly donate for your time!
D.

Oh wow, I had no clue I had the program. Thank you so much!!!
Ive had office 2007 for quite some time now and never bothered to open the program directory in the folder!!!
That is amazing, guess I wont have to buy a program to do it!!!
Thank you so much! You have all been great...
Btw, I used phatnotes for the day, not bad at all, but there are a couple of glitches I found while using it...
Wont complain tho, still did the job!

Nexus30 said:
If you can wait for a 1 week, I will post a note application I am currently working on. It will synchronise notes from outlook using active sync. And it will be free
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Hello what about your program? have you some news? I would like to test it. THANKS

I am still working on the synchronization part. I have finished the mobile app part. I will make it available soon, just working on some final touch. Cheers

Nexus30 said:
I am still working on the synchronization part. I have finished the mobile app part. I will make it available soon, just working on some final touch. Cheers
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If you need a tester let me know.
Happy to help!
D.

Does One Note sync with Outlook?

OneNote & Outlook
edmondt said:
Does One Note sync with Outlook?
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No, it syncs with OneNote on the Desktop.
C.

Smartphones do not have Notes built-in and all the 3rd-party solutions (such as SmartpHoneNotes) suck because they cannot sync over the air.
My solutions are:
1) Do notes online. If you have a free Yahoo account, you can use its online Notepad, not bad at all, just it does not support SSL. If you have an ASP web hosting, you can install my XinNotes:
http://www.fixup.net/download/XinNotes.zip
2) Use PocketNotepad. If your phone does not have an Internet, then the best way to do notes is the free and great PocketNotepad from Tillanosoft. You don't need to sync it with your desktop as you can open the notes files directly via ActiveSync with Windows's Notepad. As it does not use a special file format but in plain text, it saves you all the troubles of sync and your dependance to a specific software. Peace of mind from now on.
http://tillanosoft.com/
PocketNotepad is also the best and only text edit tool for you to view/edit any text files on your phone. A must. Make sure you also install the tGetFile.dll which allows you to browse/open/save in all folders (without this dll PocketNotepad can only access My Documents folder which is enough for notes function). No need to mention its full features: copy/paste, search/replace, insert date/time... everything you've dreamed and beyond.

Notes App.
For my S620 I copied HTC Quick notes app. from the S710 and it works very well. It allows you to store notes on the storage card but it does not have the aibility to sync with Outlook.
Playing a bit with my SGH-i600, I noticed that they have an app. called Notepad and the i600 ships with an add-on to sync notes on Outlook called Notepadsync. I copied it on the S620 and installed the software on my computer but Activ Sync does not recognise the app. on the smartphone whereas it would detect it on the SGH.
I guess there must be some registry hacks to do to allow it to sync on the S620.
If someone the binaries I can send them, as I have very few spare time to dig on this.

I'm been using SmartphoneNotes from Syncdata and it works great (syncs wiith Outlook also).

IE problems

So more or less I enjoyed the WP7 browser.
But than I experienced annoying limitations:
1. It doesn't support my banks online banking! Opera Mini can do it, Android browser can do it but IE can't!!
2. IE cannot open this page, what a fckn letdown:
www.kueng-blockfloeten.ch/en/index.php

I don't know if it supports your country and bank, but I use PageOnce for all my financial tracking on the phone. It's much nicer than fiddling with a mobile site.

jeffgeno said:
I don't know if it supports your country and bank, but I use PageOnce for all my financial tracking on the phone. It's much nicer than fiddling with a mobile site.
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Sweet but I talk about bank operations, not finance tracking.

doministry said:
Sweet but I talk about bank operations, not finance tracking.
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I have no problem with online banking in the US, I'm not sure if it makes a difference if you set the browser to show mobile or full sites.

jeffgeno said:
I don't know if it supports your country and bank, but I use PageOnce for all my financial tracking on the phone. It's much nicer than fiddling with a mobile site.
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Ok I tried to use this nice app.
It even found my bank but first asks for my ID and password what is something
I don't get because things I use to login to my bank are different.
But whichever option I use it tries to connect but than asks me idiotic questions like my first schools town. I give the correct answer but this crap says it is wrong.
So how to use it?! Looks as useless as IE in this regard

Another IE letdown:
I doesn't display my private messages on this forum!
I start to be more and more disappointed.

Did you know that the "One Note" app has the shopping list and tasks list online?

Did you know that the "One Note" app has the shopping list and tasks list online?
Cool

This is definitely a nice and entertaining commercial. Microsoft should come up with more of these.
I didn't even think of using OneNote this way. Neat idea.

Man I loved this comercial, really nice way to use the OneNote Sync

What all does a person need to utilize this feature? Do you need to buy the overwhelmingly expensive desktop software? What is it...MS Exchange or something like that?

MartyLK said:
What all does a person need to utilize this feature? Do you need to buy the overwhelmingly expensive desktop software? What is it...MS Exchange or something like that?
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If you already have a windows phone, your OneNote files sync to Skydrive so you can view and edit them online via http://office.live.com. If you have Office 2010 desktop software, OneNote also syncs there.
I use it extensively to manage my college life.

Not bad. But I consider that with my web-based notebooks I can sync to all of my phones, even iOS. I use Evernote and it does the same thing as well as providing access on my other phones.

MartyLK said:
What all does a person need to utilize this feature? Do you need to buy the overwhelmingly expensive desktop software? What is it...MS Exchange or something like that?
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Onenote on the desktop comes with certain packages of Office 2010 (or 2007) but not with the Mac version.
BUt you don't have to download it.. just use the Office Web Apps from your Windows Live account.
Amazing stuff from Microsoft!

hboos said:
Onenote on the desktop comes with certain packages of Office 2010 (or 2007) but not with the Mac version.
BUt you don't have to download it.. just use the Office Web Apps from your Windows Live account.
Amazing stuff from Microsoft!
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Man, I was hoping it was going to be cool... without the usual vender tie downs and non-cross platform mess.
Guess evernote will still be the goto recommend for folks interested in this kinda tech with no restrictions and expensive software tie ins.

ohgood said:
Man, I was hoping it was going to be cool... without the usual vender tie downs and non-cross platform mess.
Guess evernote will still be the goto recommend for folks interested in this kinda tech with no restrictions and expensive software tie ins.
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What do you mean? If you have a hotmail/live account, you have Office Web apps.. you don't need to download/buy anything at all. It's like google documents but infinitely more useful and functional.
I don't see how evernote is better in anyway.. (except that it is available on android ..not sure onenote is yet..)
(as you can tell, I'm a huge fan of onenote.. the main reason I will be sticking to WP for a while)

sayonical said:
If you already have a windows phone, your OneNote files sync to Skydrive so you can view and edit them online via http://office.live.com. If you have Office 2010 desktop software, OneNote also syncs there.
I use it extensively to manage my college life.
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You don't need the full desktop client to use it. The web interface is very powerful.

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What all does a person need to utilize this feature? Do you need to buy the overwhelmingly expensive desktop software? What is it...MS Exchange or something like that?
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pathetic attempt to shoot down a thread about an amazing commercial, I didn't even know OneNote could do all of that. I'll be sure to use it now.
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JustinTV773 said:
pathetic attempt to shoot down a thread about an amazing commercial, I didn't even know OneNote could do all of that. I'll be sure to use it now.
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Enjoy, mate. I use Evernote, which gives me access on all of my phones, not just my WP7. And Evernote updates faster.

Evernote syncs, but the app sucks compared to onenote.
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While Evernote isn't the best web-based notebook, it's at least easier to figure out than One Note. It took me a bit to know how to make a new note and all of the things relating to it. And One Note isn't as intuitive as the web-based variety. Catch Notes is the best web-based notebook. But there isn't a WP7 version yet, so I went with Evernote until Catch Note makes a WP7 version.

To be honest, I don't like it how OneNote HAS to sync to the cloud (unless I'm doing something wrong). Sometimes I seriously have no reception - what then? For this reason, I actually use Word for note-taking.

Evernote is better.foe organizing.notes anyways. OneNote had this forever in the iOS version..
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I will give you the ONE very good reason why I use OneNote and not Evernote.
Because OneNote is built in- it's made by the same people who make the OS, meaning I'm guaranteed compatibility whatever Windows device I have, and there is much more chance of the online services being reliable going forward.
I HATE third party software on mobile devices. It is the absolute bain of my life, it's very rarely done well and 90% of it is utter crap. This is why I chose Windows Phone.
I can see why you might want something that syncs to 5 different OS's, but in reality 99% of the population are very unlikely to need, care about, or have, three mobile devices, so for them OneNote is an excellent option (and the desktop software is immensely powerful, too)

That's fine many people prefer that convenience. However I'd you need superior note taking and organization tagging etc Evernote is far ahead of one note. One note still isn't really optimized for mobile yet, but it will get there.
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Lumic said:
To be honest, I don't like it how OneNote HAS to sync to the cloud (unless I'm doing something wrong). Sometimes I seriously have no reception - what then? For this reason, I actually use Word for note-taking.
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You don't have to sync to the cloud. You can as well store your notes on the device. Just open the office app and swipe to the right. You can choose Skydrive, Phone, Sharepoint..
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MartyLK said:
Enjoy, mate. I use Evernote, which gives me access on all of my phones, not just my WP7. And Evernote updates faster.
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Then go enjoy evernote and don't shoot down threads that have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
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Looking for a password app

I got too many damn passwords at work. I would love an app that I can use to put in my passwords, that is itself password protected.
Hopefully something that can backup to dropbox or something like that.
Any ideas?

I know you've see all the 49¢ app posts. I think you'll find it there

djjosh said:
I know you've see all the 49¢ app posts. I think you'll find it there
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Yea, saw one there, but that requires a $20 desktop app as well. No thanks.

Really! $20 that's the catch , but would you want something free protecting your bank and credit passwords

Bielinsk said:
Yea, saw one there, but that requires a $20 desktop app as well. No thanks.
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it does not require the desktop app, it works by itself

http://keepass.info/ best I've ever found. Open source, you don't have your passwords stored on anyone else's servers, you can add a 'key file' and on and on. Oh ya IT'S FREE!

Bielinsk said:
I got too many damn passwords at work. I would love an app that I can use to put in my passwords, that is itself password protected.
Hopefully something that can backup to dropbox or something like that.
Any ideas?
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Try mSecure.
Mi nuh tek intimidation

Loaded up Pocket, which seems really nice, even has a desktop client I can use. Stores the encrypted file on dropbox and can sync between the two.

I would suggest Keeper ( and its free ).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5jYWxscG9kLmFuZHJvaWRfYXBwcy5rZWVwZXIiXQ..

I pay for Lastpass. $12 per year. I use it on all my desktops and mobile devices. I like the lastpass dolphin browser plugin and it autofills user name and password for me.
At work, IT uses keypass for all of their secret data so I have that on my phone too and and I keep the database synced up with a file syncing program.

leaderbuilder said:
http://keepass.info/ best I've ever found. Open source, you don't have your passwords stored on anyone else's servers, you can add a 'key file' and on and on. Oh ya IT'S FREE!
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I can't live without this app. I love the desktop version. Best of all, it's FREE!
Install this app, save the database file to dropbox and you can access/sync all your passwords on your phone and desktop.

How safe is using an app like this on a rooted device with a custom rom?