VZ XV6800 - Do I Need Phone Service To Enable GPS? - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

I have an xv6800 that a buddy of mine gave me after an upgrade. It is currently running a sprint rom v3.35.651.2 (02/22/08). Radio Version 3.35.04. I am not wanting to service the phone in any way but just use it as a 'portable pc, to check email with when wi-fi networks are available' as well as a 'gps unit'.
I have done the hardspl (unlock)
I have updated the radio (3.35.04)
then threw on this sprint rom (3.35.651.2)
(configured the proper port settings)
I for the life of me can not get the gps unit to work. I know the phone (before I had it) was unlocked and running the gps. The same guy who owned the phone before me has also tried to unlock it from scratch again and get it back 'online' with no success.
I am wondering if an active voice plan on it is needed to enable the gps? I have tried to run through the tutorials myself a handful of times and still not able to get this thing to work with gps. Any help or information is much appreciated!
Neil

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verizon touch and gps...not working after flash

I have read dozens of topics on flashing and gps for the xv6900. I flashed using imcokes unlocker, the new sprint radio/rom and finally omjs rom
now I went into my phone settings (via start - settings - phone location and set location instead of 911 on)
I use gps viewer and open google maps but no gps. should I try returning my location setting to 911 and then open gps viewer? I mean this should work but no go
and yes I have googled and search ppgeeks and xda vogue upgrade. no answer. can I get some help
For the first time, stand outside on a sunny day and be patient, it took me about 3 days to finally get it working solid. Keep the "Location On" setting, I don't think it will work with "911 Only"
okay I did get a satellite (5 really) on google maps 2 days ago outside but nothing since. I will try again but flash and everything was alright it was perfect even just weird. but I find my mogul as well did not pick up a gps signal either. that's weird
I don't use GPS a lot, so no guru on it working, but GPS Viewer, built in the ROM I'm using, picked up various sats for me. I used GPS Viewer first, only to see how well the GPS was in fact working, it seemed to be like a meter on muchsignal it was getting. From what I've seen, if you flashed it wrong, your Vogue wouldn't even turn on, so that shouldn't be the problem. There's really only a few things that come into play when getting it to work so check this:
"Location On", like you already have,
System Settings > External GPS:
"Programs" tab: Port "COM4"
"Hardware" tab: Port "NONE", Baud Rate "4800"
"Access" tab: Check "Manage GPS Automatically"
These settings may come like these as default on your ROM.
I've also seen one reg edit that may help:
HKLM > Software > HTC > SUPL AGPS > GPSMode
Try changing from 2 to 1 or 4, helped some people I believe.
help help
i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
dragon1541 said:
i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
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Huh? Are you saying you tried to flash your ROM? Need more info!!!!
dragon1541 said:
i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
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i tried the alltell gps flash and now my phone will not worh it boots up as if it is a alltel phone not verizon
dragon1541 said:
i tried the alltell gps flash and now my phone will not worh it boots up as if it is a alltel phone not verizon
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How do you mean by it boots up like Alltell? If you see an image with their logo, it doesn't mean much of anything, it's only an image, you can change it. But it sounds like you ran the RUU (ROM Update Utility) to install the Alltell ROM, which is a key step in upgrading the ROM. But did you unlock it first with ImCokeMan's unlocker, version 2.31 I believe?
Also, press & hold the power and camera buttons, then soft reset, it should but you in a multi-colored screen, the bootloader, what does it say?

No GPS Verizon XV6900 (Vogue)

Oh kay... I really hope I don't get yelled at for not searching or something but I can't find anything and I seriously need help. I have the 3.42.50(I think) radio and OMJ's Custom Verizon Rom and I just can't get a lock. I've tried thousands of tutorials and haven't had any luck. On my current flash I've used this tutorial, and haven't gotten a lock. I don't know what I'm doing wrong... I'm pretty desperate. ANY help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
First, to make sure you have the updated radio (which you probably do) go to start/settings/system/Device Information and check there to make sure.
I wish I had had such a detailed set of instructions to follow when I was setting up my US Cellular Vogue. I had to patch together instructions from 3 different sources to make it work. Of course it works, yours doesn't. Are you outside when you are trying to get at least your initial lock. When I first lock on I generally have to be outside, after it is once locked on I can go inside and it will retain a lock.
Check for my Tips thread, basic info on setting it up is there.
Bogy54 said:
First, to make sure you have the updated radio (which you probably do) go to start/settings/system/Device Information and check there to make sure.
I wish I had had such a detailed set of instructions to follow when I was setting up my US Cellular Vogue. I had to patch together instructions from 3 different sources to make it work. Of course it works, yours doesn't. Are you outside when you are trying to get at least your initial lock. When I first lock on I generally have to be outside, after it is once locked on I can go inside and it will retain a lock.
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oh kay... sorry for the delayed response... anyway... i do have the updated radio and i dont think i've ever tried it outside... :-\ i have tried it standing right next to a glass door... also, should i be messing with the baud rate at all while trying to get a lock?... im not sure wat to do after i open GPS Viewer... i set the Com port to 4 and then i open GPS... is that all i have to do?...
and... can u send me a link to those tips TheChampJT? im bad at navigating forums... :-\
Have you ever run the MR1 on your phone? This would block third party apps from accessing your gps. If this is the case, you need to down grade to a none gps rom, the upgrade.
take a look here
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
kmanuel74 said:
Have you ever run the MR1 on your phone? This would block third party apps from accessing your gps. If this is the case, you need to down grade to a none gps rom, the upgrade.
take a look here
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
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I might have... would a radio version be able to tell u if this is my problem?... my radio is currently 3.42.50... I did notice my radio version changed after the update so i just used cokes rom to flash it back and started using another rom...
If it came with verizon WM 6.1 or you flashed verizon WM 6.1 and let costumizations run, then you found your problem. Maybe if you tell use what you have done with it since you got it, it might be easier to diagnos.
kmanuel74 said:
If it came with verizon WM 6.1 or you flashed verizon WM 6.1 and let costumizations run, then you found your problem. Maybe if you tell use what you have done with it since you got it, it might be easier to diagnos.
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well... i cant really remember... i really dont want to reflash... i have everything i want the way i want it :'( lol... anyway... ill try reflashing using those instructions and ill report back here in a few...
I used this reported "Leaked Official Verizon Rom". IT WORKS!
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Verizon/RUU_Vogue_VZW_WWE_3.14.605.1_Radio_3.37.77_Ship.exe
You run it and allow it to customize and wahla...updated WM6.1 and the GPS works!
Gps has to be configured to use Com 4.
Use HTC Titan Quick GPS to updated satellite empiricals (GPS position data). I get cold fixes in 15 seconds indoors! Download it from: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4914&d=1201747040
You will have to do a "Over the Air" reprogram via *228, I think its option 2.
I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS WITH THE NEW ROM AND EASY AS PIE TO INSTALL!
Darn GPS is pretty dam close. I get 29foot accuracy 98.5% of the time!
ozzzzzzz,
did you change the location setting under phone settings? I forgot to check this and finally figured to look there.
Go to settings / personal / phone-----then hit services and select settings for location. Make sure that 911 is not selected. May be simple issue with that.
GL!
aGPS on Verison w\Radio 3.37.78 and NFSFAN's Cusom WM6.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=939180
KCDale99 Posted this, couple weeks ago, it still works people.!!!!!!!!........
I justreceived a new XV6900 in the mail today when mine suffered a hardwarefailure of some sort. The new phone came with the newest ROM whichincludes the 3.37.78 radio. Of course I turn on the phone, and updatesrun. This disabled the GPS even after loading a custom ROM. the aGPSfix would not work, and gps Viewer couldn't even find one satellite.
Ifigured this was just like an old, 'let the customizations run'problem. So I followed the steps found here with one exception:
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Onstep 4, I ran the RUU_Vogue_VZW_WWE_3.14.605.1_Radio_3.37.78_ShipOfficial ROM from Verizon. I did NOT let customizations run. I thenloaded my custom ROM. This puts me on the official Verizon radio.
After that, the aGPS fix worked like a charm and GPS is working.
Iknow this is a rehash of other issuew, but I wanted to let everyoneknow that the newest phones shipping are disabling GPS all together.
THIS STILL WORKS PEOPLE!!!!!!! been at this for a week now with absolutely no luck until now this guy has it.................. 5-31-09
I used NFSFAN's custom ROM WM6.5v8 for my custom rom.
the only other thing i had to do is when i was done installing ROM's my phone would not authenticate on Verizon network, so instead of calling them i use the online MY Verison to activate my phone to a old Verizon i760 then re-activated my xv6900 online ordered (verizon) a week ago !!! I have tried every fix, etc... until this combo... except i never went to the leaked verizon radio been to the bell, us cellular, alltel, verzon, etc... and back again..... now it works...... with the fix this guy posted......QPST ip info fom the fix page, links all seem to work!
Again********THIS STILL WORKS PEOPLE
XV6900 CAME STOCK ABOUT A WEEK AGO!!!
YOur first link is to reply to another thread, your second link takes me to the wiki main page, so no information on both whatsoever....
No GPS in Google maps
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?
novafreak69 said:
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?
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I'm with this guy... Except, I'm worse off. I can't even get a lock in GPS Viewer. It finds the satellites, but does not lock.
I did whole unlock 0.40 to Sprint ROM to unlock 2.31 to VZW ROM, then straight to WM6.5V12, then I did the aGPS hack with QPST, and even tried cody's fix in his FAQ thread. I spent all yesterday morning trying to get GPS working, and I've got nothing to show for it. I'm so f'n pissed right now!
fiktion said:
I'm with this guy... Except, I'm worse off. I can't even get a lock in GPS Viewer. It finds the satellites, but does not lock.
I did whole unlock 0.40 to Sprint ROM to unlock 2.31 to VZW ROM, then straight to WM6.5V12, then I did the aGPS hack with QPST, and even tried cody's fix in his FAQ thread. I spent all yesterday morning trying to get GPS working, and I've got nothing to show for it. I'm so f'n pissed right now!
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When you flashed VZW ROM, did you allow customizations to run?
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When you flashed VZW ROM, did you allow customizations to run?
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Nope. The only time I let customizations run was when I installed WM6.5.
I did the Coke .40, Sprint (no-run), Coke 2.31, Verizon (no-run), NSFANS WM6.5 (run) and then his two verizon cabs and finished with the aGPS hack with QPST. I used the Telus fix, but should I have used a different one?
I was able to get GPS (with locks after a few minutes outside). I don't think I am getting aGPS, though.
Doesn't aGPS help when you are moving or inside? I think that you would get faster locks (especially the first time) if aGPS is working.
BTW, that routine killed my voice line and SMS with a #8899 notification. Verizon networking is still working.
Todd you'll have to call Verizon and have them re-authorize your phone. The same thing happened to me when I tried that fix.
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Todd you'll have to call Verizon and have them re-authorize your phone. The same thing happened to me when I tried that fix.
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I will. That office is closed until Sunday. While I am waiting I am trying other methods and options.
I am currently on a Coke .40, Verizon ROM 3.14.605.1 Radio 3.37.77 (no-cust), Coke 2.31, Verizon ROM 3.14.605.1 Radio 3.37.77 (w/cust) followed by QuickGPS. This lets me see satellites and gets me fully back on a Verizon radio. (I will still have to call #8899 when their office opens)
Can anyone match up ROM versions with the MR1, MR2 designations? Is 3.37.78 MR1?
novafreak69 said:
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?
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first you should run gps veiwer and get a lock before you open google maps.
second go to options/gps settings in google maps and set to managed by windows. that should work

Can't get migrated xv6800 back onto Verizon network

What started out as an effort to get my migrated XV6800 to operate on Verizon's data network has taken a nasty turn for the worse... Here is the long, sordid story, and I would really appreciate help in getting this device back onto the Verizon network.
This was originally a Qwest phone. I unlocked it and flashed it with a Verizon ROM, the file name is _Verizon XV6800_RUU_TITAN_VZW_WWE_3.57.605.1_RS_TITAN_3.37. 75_OM_VZW_ShipFULL. After I did that the customization routines did not run. Frankly, I don't know if they were supposed to or not, but they didn't.
I couldn't get the phone to connect to the Verizon network, even on *228. Eventually I applied a PRL and then I was able to connect to *228, and option #3 got the phone onto the voice network. I used it as my cell phone for two weeks with no issues on the voice network. Still, I wasn't able to get data working.
These are the things I tried while troubleshooting the data issue:
* Loaded the carrier cab from DCD
* Forced a CDMA only connection to download new keys
* Loaded the newest Verizon ROMs I found while at their website (this is the first time I saw customization routines)
* Told Verizon to switch me from pay as you go data to unlimited data (though it looks like they never turned this on)
* Tried activating my PDA with a different Verizon number, and then re-activating it with my original Verizon number
* Did a hard reset
It's those last two steps that screwed me. After I swapped the number off the phone I wasn't able to get it back. I could get to option #3, but it wouldn't let me activate the phone. Their tech support is no help and they are shocked when they look back at my account history and see that I was able to use *228 to get this phone on their network two weeks ago.
I then did a hard reset and got myself all the way back to the point where I was before I manually put the PRL in place. When I dial *228 I get the following: "Your account is not authorized to make calls to this phone number. I you would like to have additional capabilities added to your account please call customer service. Message 4, swich 691". I'm guessing that installing a PRL on the phone will now let me use option #3, because that's what made it work last time. However, I'm looking for instructions since I messed up somewhere in the process last time.
I just tried the following, but I get a recording saying they are unable to activate my phone at this time and then it tried to connect me to a person.
1. Install PRL
2. Install carrier cab
3. Install MMS cab
4. Run *228, #3
I know the person is just going to tell me that they can't help because their system doesn't recognize the ESN.
So what's the verdict, can I expect to get this phone back onto the voice network, will it ever work on the data network? Any help that anyone can offer in resolving this would be greatly appreciated.
Wrong forum? Should this have gone into upgrades?
moved thread by request of OP as Q&A forum did not provide answers nor does the OP expect it to.
Best regards,
Flar
Since being able to dial *228, have you called customer service to pull a new key for your device? When I upgraded a xv6800 rom I was not able to dial *228 until I did that. It was a bit of work getting it to pull the new key, but they did it. They first walked me through a manual registration process, then I think they tried to push it through and that worked.
Is your phone a Verizon phone? The pickle I'm in is that mine is not. When they ask me for the ESN they say it's unrecognized and that's pretty much it. They say they can't help me get it on the network because it's not a Verizon phone.
mfreema said:
Since being able to dial *228, have you called customer service to pull a new key for your device? When I upgraded a xv6800 rom I was not able to dial *228 until I did that. It was a bit of work getting it to pull the new key, but they did it. They first walked me through a manual registration process, then I think they tried to push it through and that worked.
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Yep mine is a verizon phone. I am wondering if this is a new implementation, because I have flashed several roms before and never had to call them to get my phone activated until about a month ago. When you dial *228 does it allow you to do a phone programing, I think it is option 1?
No. 1, 2, & 3 all fail. I just called tech support again, hoping getting a new A key would resolve this. He told me he couldn't give me an A key unless the phone's ESN was in the system and the only way to get it in there is through *228, #3... Kind of a Catch 22.
His last suggestion was that I activate a different PDA on my number and see if maybe the computer is choking because my current phone isn't a PDA, and this one is. Kind of sounds like clutching at straws, but he said at this point I've done all that can be done, short of that.
I find really odd, and extremely frustrating, that I can't find anyone else who has been through this with a non-Verizon phone.
mfreema said:
Yep mine is a verizon phone. I am wondering if this is a new implementation, because I have flashed several roms before and never had to call them to get my phone activated until about a month ago. When you dial *228 does it allow you to do a phone programing, I think it is option 1?
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NOOB - Few Questions

Hi, I have a verizon htc touch. I was wondering if someone can explain the below.
1) If I do a hard reset in order to reflash WM6.1 what point is there to not let the customizations run? How do I keep them from running - will my phone still work (I assume so).
2) I have seen lots about VZW locking down the GPS. Is the GPS in WM6.1 the same type of GPS that is in a Garmin or other handheld device? Or is it a GPS that will constantly be talking to the cell towers - using my data plan?
3) What is up with the NSFAN rom? Seems like its all the craze. I just got this phone and its my first smartphone - WM device. I don't want to mess it up.
Thanks!
jbsmith said:
1) If I do a hard reset in order to reflash WM6.1 what point is there to not let the customizations run? How do I keep them from running - will my phone still work (I assume so).
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Once you hard reset and it completes it will restart on its own - as soon as it shows "starting customization" or something similar with a 3 second countdown and a big OK button then just stick the stylus in the reset hole and soft restart
jbsmith said:
2) I have seen lots about VZW locking down the GPS. Is the GPS in WM6.1 the same type of GPS that is in a Garmin or other handheld device? Or is it a GPS that will constantly be talking to the cell towers - using my data plan?
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The HTC Vogue (Touch) utilizes aGPS (assisted with help from towers for faster location and locks) and GPS via satillites
There are settings to disable aGPS and utilize only GPS but your going to have to dig through the NFSFAN ROM thread as its in there I just dont know the settings right off my head (I use sprint sorry)
jbsmith said:
3) What is up with the NSFAN rom? Seems like its all the craze. I just got this phone and its my first smartphone - WM device. I don't want to mess it up.
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Its fast, stable, up to date and if you go through the thread, people are there helping each other which is ALWAYS a plus
Detroit Doug
Thanks for the replies D. Doug.
I suppose doing any of this will not hurt my phone as I could always do a hard reset to get it back to the factory rom if I needed to right?
jbsmith said:
Thanks for the replies D. Doug.
I suppose doing any of this will not hurt my phone as I could always do a hard reset to get it back to the factory rom if I needed to right?
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As answered in your other thread, a hard reset will only reload the OS thats currently on the phone now
if your running 6.0 - hard reset will give you a phone with 6.0 as it was when first installed
if your running 6.1 - hard reset will give you a phone with 6.1 as it was when first installed
if your running 6.5 - hard reset will give you a phone with 6.5 as it was when first installed
If you need to go back to original ROM, you will need to flash to that ROM specifically if you upgrade to any other custom ROM
Detroit Doug
Gps Help
I use to own a Alltel Touch (love that phone, got stolen, so I gotta Touch Pro ). They had the gps locked down to so you would pay $10 month for them to get it working. If you search arround for Shadow Tech AGPS hack, you will be amazed. I could get 10-15 locks. This is Assisted GPS though and it uses data. The phone has a crappy GPS antenna, most people never get it working without hacking it. Oh and not letting customs run will do just that. It will just load the base windows files without carrier or chef customizations.
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Hi, I have a verizon htc touch. I was wondering if someone can explain the below.
1) If I do a hard reset in order to reflash WM6.1 what point is there to not let the customizations run? How do I keep them from running - will my phone still work (I assume so).
2) I have seen lots about VZW locking down the GPS. Is the GPS in WM6.1 the same type of GPS that is in a Garmin or other handheld device? Or is it a GPS that will constantly be talking to the cell towers - using my data plan?
3) What is up with the NSFAN rom? Seems like its all the craze. I just got this phone and its my first smartphone - WM device. I don't want to mess it up.
Unlocking your phone & flashing a custom ROM will certainly void your warranty. You do not necessarily need a custom ROM in order for the GPS to function. I had mine working with the stock WM6.1 by not ever letting the customizations run.
Thanks!
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1. Your phone will still work by not letting the customizations run. The extra bloatware that Verizon has on you phone will not be installed & leaving you more memory. Letting the customization run will disable the GPS. There are fixes & hacks but people have had greater success keeping their GPS functioning by not letting the customizations run. If you have let the customizations run even once your GPS will still be locked. Doing a hard reset will not help either.
2. I do not have a data plan I am able to use TomTom 7 without a problem. The GPS does not need to talk to the tower & use your data plan in order to work. This is how The VZ navigator, Google Maps, & Live Search work.
3. Unlocking your phone & flashing a custom ROM will certainly void your warranty. You do not necessarily need a custom ROM in order for the GPS to function. I had mine working with the stock WM6.1 by not ever letting the customizations run.

[Q] A Question about GPS.....

hey i have a question. can anyone help? i unlocked my TP2 and got the internet to work. now im trying to get the GPS and MMS to work. ive tried everything but to no avail? The TP2 is running on ATT. can anyone help? Please? Pretty Please with Michelle Rodriguez on top?
what program are you using with gps? cant help with mms, i use tom tom and it works great.
well basically i unlocked the phone to run with ATT. it was originally a US Cellular unit. And ive gotten the data to work (finally thanks to you guys.) but i have not gotten to GPS to work. is there a certain COM setting that i need or something? MMS i have not gotten to work either. Im basically trying to set the phone up to work with ATT and im not sure what settings to use for the GPS or the MMS.
You still haven't answered the basic question of what program you are trying to get the GPS working on. Google Maps and Bing typically need no configuration in order to connect to the GPS.
One simple, free troubleshooting app is Visual GPSce (just Google it). Settings for the GPS are COM4 and 4800 baud. The app should quickly start seeing satellites once the GPS settings are entered. Otherwise you have something else going on.
I had a similar problem, and Visual GPSce did the trick for me.

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