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clarificatin on gps? please (soo confused)

So I just got my touch yesterday and I downloaded google maps and I try to use the gps feature but it wont pick up any satellite's. I had to moto q9c before this and I did the same thing and I usually picked up like 9.
So I've been reading this forum for 4 hours thread by thread some new some old.
What I've gathered is GPS hardware is in the phone. But you cant use it unless an update comes out. Now people were predicting updates in early January. It's June. So I should have the updates?? or do i need to hack it to enable the GPS.
Thanks in advance
Kp

i suggest checking out the Vogue Forums at ppcgeeks.com and you'll get a plethora of info on the Vogue (a.k.a., Sprint Touch). (assuming you have the Sprint version). if you do have the Sprint version of the Touch, in order for GPS to work, you have to (1) install software (SPL) that allows you to (2) install a "leaked" Sprint ROM (read: not official) that enables the GPS radio on the Sprint Touch. the entire process is discussed in great detail on ppcgeeks.com. oh yeah, read and re-read to ensure you understand the pros/cons of enabling the GPS features. by the way, i have it enabled on my Sprint Touch and it works well! good luck!

kdiggdy said:
So I just got my touch yesterday and I downloaded google maps and I try to use the gps feature but it wont pick up any satellite's. I had to moto q9c before this and I did the same thing and I usually picked up like 9.
So I've been reading this forum for 4 hours thread by thread some new some old.
What I've gathered is GPS hardware is in the phone. But you cant use it unless an update comes out. Now people were predicting updates in early January. It's June. So I should have the updates?? or do i need to hack it to enable the GPS.
Thanks in advance
Kp
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Who is your carrier? If it's Telus I highly suggest that you call and complain... same for Sprint actually... Did the salesperson SAY that GPS or "Navigator" would be available? If they did, they were telling you a lie. It's possible that it may be included in the upcoming updates, but trust me when I say that the salespeople don't know when the update is coming or what's in it. They don't know any better than us what will be included.
Yes, in all likelyhood there will be some minor hacking involved to enable GPS. We think they'll include support for their OWN navigation software (i.e. Telus Navigator), and if that is the case it's a matter of a few tweaks to get GPS running system-wide.
If the update doesn't include that much, a homebrew rom will be your only option to get GPS. Yes, the hardware is there.

I have sprint and was using google maps, and I called up sprint and the GPS is enabled and they can only give support for there apps. We'll im just wondering on my moto q it had wm 6 and i could access these settings
Code:
The settings i have in Start > Settings > Phone Settings > GPS
Settings are as follows:
Number of Fixes: Always ON
TIme between fixes (seconds): 2
Performance (seconds): 16
Accuracy (meter): 256
and I could use the GPS with Google maps.
I tried to find these setting in the touch also and they weren't there, the only ones i found were for External.
Any clue why this option isn't on the touch but on the Q? I'd assume they'd be smart and put it on the touch too since its more expensive.
Thanks for all your help I'll give what Cortez said a try.
kp

It is NOT enabled, Sprint rep's are playing dumb. I called them the other day to ask about the upgrade 3.02, the rep said "its on the web page" that, of course, was BS. If it is a sprint rom, than you can just run the leaked rom and it will update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394039

Don't fully quote me on this, as I just recently got a HTC device, so I've been heavy into the flashing threads lately.
Currently the Touch, for any carrier, until updated, does NOT have the GPS enabled, but the hardware IS there. The problem is with the RADIO being version 1.XX, and in order for GPS to function, you need a 3.XX version. So, at least in my case, you will need to flash. Be sure to very extensively read up on the "How-To's" of flashing this device. ANY, and I mean ANY mishap on doing this can have you running back to your carrier paying for a new device. Don't be alarmed by all the warnings, because this will work for you. But, DO NOT skip anything in the forums about flashing. Read every page if you need to.
You can be sure to pinpoint yourself on a map starting here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979

I'm using a Sprint Touch and with Rev. A and GPS. Look on Vogue the forums at ppcgeeks.com and you can learn how to do the same.

agreed
n5bail said:
I'm using a Sprint Touch and with Rev. A and GPS. Look on Vogue the forums at ppcgeeks.com and you can learn how to do the same.
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Yes, definately do it. I'm not that great with computers,eyc. but i read a ****load and this is a no brainer. Besides there is tons of help available if you f%@* up. just make sure you understand the steps before you take the leap... look at PPCGeeks for OMJ's custom roms.
I've been using the bell ROM for 2 weeks with ZERO issues.
GPS tracks me anywhere I go.
Good luck

Telus ROM - GPS hardware
I've spoken to a Telus Tech Rep... there IS a planned ROM update for the Touch. I did ask also about the GPS feature. It DOES exist on the phone.
IT can be "unlocked" however it wil void warranty. You are quite correct about the Telus Navigator - a PAID service of $10.00/mo. I'm NOT happy about tahat as my plan is expensive enough as it is. One of the reasons I picked up this device IS GPS. I'm Not happy about these developments.I've had other issues iwth the Telus Touch too, but that's for another forum of discussion.
Good luck guys in finding a GPS solution that works for ALL of us.
Makes me wish I knew hwo ot hack.
guardianfox said:
Who is your carrier? If it's Telus I highly suggest that you call and complain... same for Sprint actually... Did the salesperson SAY that GPS or "Navigator" would be available? If they did, they were telling you a lie. It's possible that it may be included in the upcoming updates, but trust me when I say that the salespeople don't know when the update is coming or what's in it. They don't know any better than us what will be included.
Yes, in all likelyhood there will be some minor hacking involved to enable GPS. We think they'll include support for their OWN navigation software (i.e. Telus Navigator), and if that is the case it's a matter of a few tweaks to get GPS running system-wide.
If the update doesn't include that much, a homebrew rom will be your only option to get GPS. Yes, the hardware is there.
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I got my Sprint Touch to use GPS without a monthly fee.
I used the leaked official rom to update my phone to WM6.1 and activated Rev A GPS. How to do this is very well laid out on PPC geeks and pretty intuitive.
Now which GPS program to use, after much investigation and failure...the only one I found working well was the Garmin Mobile XT. You install the program properly and it will work. It doesn't need to be primed or use an extra program to pre-activate your GPS.
Used it last night and it worked brilliantly well.

GPS...help a noob??

First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.

What PRI version do you have? Check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509696 Hope this helps. Timmay!!!

PPCNoob2779 said:
First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.
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Radio and ROM should be fine, but 2 questions first though
1 - What carrier are you on?
2 - In your reference to GPS, are you actually attempting locks on JUST GPS or do you have a data plan with your carrier for a faster aGPS/GPS lock?
No data plan, no aGPS though GPS will still work it will take a long time to get any locks
Detroit Doug

carrier - vzw.
specific gps plan (like vznavigator) no. regular data plan - yes.
Phone doesnt show a PRI at bootup.
on the left, I have M 03 and B 01
on the right, DCAAXOM-4350H
R: 3.42.50
D: 3NFS
I'll read the linked thread regarding PRI. Thanks -

PPCNoob2779 said:
carrier - vzw.
specific gps plan (like vznavigator) no. regular data plan - yes.
Phone doesnt show a PRI at bootup.
on the left, I have M 03 and B 01
on the right, DCAAXOM-4350H
R: 3.42.50
D: 3NFS
I'll read the linked thread regarding PRI. Thanks -
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OK, also go read the FAQ posted HERE that is built around NFSFANs ROM and has lots of info on fixing the GPS issues directly with VZW users
Detroit Doug

Nevermind....it works. I just had to let it sit for a good 15 minutes under clear skies to get it to go.
If its any use to anyone, I didnt need any registry hacks, installation of different gps apps, nothing.
My 6900 out of the box had a 1.x radio in it. I let initial customizations run and activated the phone.
I unlocked with Coke 2.31
threw in the Bell 3.42.50 radio
and then flashed w/ NFS 1.13. Opened GPSViewer, and got red satellite dots. Opened Google maps and just let it sit. It took forever, but finally it hooked up. Works like a champ. I was just being impatient...my bad. Let it sit for a painfully long time and it'll link up.

Did the same no GPS lock!
PPC NOOB- I id the same excpet flashed with NSFans's WM6.5. No GPS...I followed all the instructions on the thread as well! anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Verizon xv6900
Radio: 3.42.50
Rom: See above

I posted this in another thread, this is what I did compiling different methods to get GPS to work, and this here works for me.. every now an then I might get bouts of 30-60mins not working but normally it works.. sometimes 1min to get a lock, sometimes 5-10.. but once its on it tends to stay and be on point
This guy has the right idea here ---> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
I had been searching for WEEKS.. I'm freshly in my NFS6.5 V7 with no customizations ran other than NFS's, I went and did what the guy said at ppc geeks, except I didn't install the gps registry cab he tells you to..
In both QPST and the registry [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS] I did this
PDE IP Address = 66.174.95.132
PDE Port Number = 8888
(Only QPST)PDE Transport = IP
(Only QPST)Position Calculation = mobile
with GPSMode: 4
**** works beautifully..
in google maps i DONT let it automatically find GPS, i put it to com4 4800..
i get about 5-6 active, occasionally going upwards around 7-8 but no more, works for me
although im currently looking for another gps program to use, google maps isnt bad but i wanna see if theres better free ones out there, if anyone has suggestions please let me know

PPCNoob2779 said:
First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.
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Did you let the customizations run when you first turned on the phone? If so then that is your problem.

jadesse said:
Did you let the customizations run when you first turned on the phone? If so then that is your problem.
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What if I did let the customizations run? Then what do I do?

My Location/Weather Not Working

Guys I know this has been covered in other threads and I've searched for hours, reading every thread I can, and I still cannot come up with a fix for this.
I am running a Tmobile Branded Touch Pro2, unlocked, hard SPL of course, with EnergyROM Photon Standard WM6.5 v 20091011 which is very slick by the way. My radio is version 4.49.25.05.
For whatever reason "My Location" doesn't work and Weather does not download. I have checked all the obvious things like making sure autoupdate is set, location service is on, etc etc. As a side note, Google Maps seems to locate me just fine, Bing is flaky at best.
Any thoughts???

Known issue. It doesn't work in custom roms.

If I load the Standard TMobile ROM that I saw posted here for the Touch Pro2 will My Location start working again?
Is there a way to go back to the shipped radio version as well?

this has been discussed many times...my location for some reason does not work on 3g even with the stock rom...but it will work when u switch to edge..just try it out..

Mixplus said:
Guys I know this has been covered in other threads and I've searched for hours, reading every thread I can, and I still cannot come up with a fix for this.
I am running a Tmobile Branded Touch Pro2, unlocked, hard SPL of course, with EnergyROM Photon Standard WM6.5 v 20091011 which is very slick by the way. My radio is version 4.49.25.05.
For whatever reason "My Location" doesn't work and Weather does not download. I have checked all the obvious things like making sure autoupdate is set, location service is on, etc etc. As a side note, Google Maps seems to locate me just fine, Bing is flaky at best.
Any thoughts???
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First of all it does work in custom roms -- it's working on my phone and mine is a custom rom. Many people have posted about how with this cooked rom or what that new radio-rom that now My location works. But, that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work -- just that it can work.
And, believe it or not, mine only works when I have a 3G connection...I don't know why, but it's true -- tested again and again.
I'm currently running the Photon Oct-11 manila2.l OS-rom with the 4.49.25.17 radio rom.
One accurate way to put it is: Try this, try that...and -- depending on where you live, maybe...it might work! Good Luck!

GPS on Telus Touch

I haven't gone through that GPS fix on my telus Touch. If I upgrade to NFSFAN's rom, will the GPS start working or do I have to do something else?

ipassgas said:
I haven't gone through that GPS fix on my telus Touch. If I upgrade to NFSFAN's rom, will the GPS start working or do I have to do something else?
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You can have GPS working if you simply install the stock 6.1 ROM available on htc.com here
I have to say tough that NFSFAN's WM6.5 ROM is great and transforms your phone into a much better device, so if you are up to it, unlock your phone and flash NFSFAN or any 6.5 custom ROM .

Do as socrate said for GPS. That should work. Back when I unlocked my GPS on my Verizon Vogue, it took a lot of crap to get it working, so hopefully just flashing the stock 6.1 ROM from HTC will work.
And, to answer your question from the other thread, as long as you've ran Coke's unlocker, you should be good to go. To check to make sure it worked, go into bootloader mode by pressing power+camera+reset button all at once. If it says 2.31 Coke, you're good.
You'll be good to go now to install NFSFAN's 6.5 ROM. Just download it, put your phone into bootloader mode, connect it to the USB, it should change from Serial to USB. Run the RomUpdateUtility that's included with NFSFAN's .zip. Go through the steps, and once it's done, it'll reset and boot (slowly) into 6.5.

Should the HTC flash activate the GPS on its own, or will I have to do that complicated "GPS Fix" that people used to have ot do for the Telus Touch using the ESN number, etc..

I'm not sure. Flash the HTC ROM and find out. It's not big deal. Just flash it, download Google Maps, and see if you get a lock outside. Make sure, though, that you turn on location in the phone settings.

My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...

mamm7215 said:
My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...
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I was finding this as well on my Bell touch, but I was indoors while checking. Once I took it outside walking, it picked it up quickly. Worth a check.

WnG88 said:
I was finding this as well on my Bell touch, but I was indoors while checking. Once I took it outside walking, it picked it up quickly. Worth a check.
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Same way with mine, too. I just stood near a wall of windows in my house and it locked on pretty quickly. If I'm anywhere else in a house/building that's not near windows, it takes some time to get a lock.

mamm7215 said:
My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...
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Hi there. A couple friends of mine have the Touch on Telus as well (mine is on Bell). I upgraded their's to the Telus GPS firmware update and could never get the GPS working. I contacted Telus and eventually figured out that they had to have the “Telus Navigator” service on their account and then the GPS only worked from within some special Telus apps that came loaded in the firmware update.
I unlocked one of their Vogues with the CoKe SPL and then flashed the official Bell update. The GPS worked perfectly.
Long story short: I think the Bell ROM is the best way to get your Vogue GPS enabled. Use it first and then flash a custom ROM like NFSFAN's or some other.
The Fish

Well I'm using nfsfan's latest and I can tell you I've tried everything and it takes a looong time to lock satellites. They show up pretty quick, but the lock takes forever and it didn't used to. I noticed that I have radio version 3.41.0, I downloaded 3.42.40 but I can't seem to find a definitive guide to flashing just the radio. Anyone know how?

Verizon XV6900 Flashed ROM GPS takes long time to lock

I have the HTC Touch (Verizon XV6900). I know it's an old one but I never had a need for GPS til now. I followed the instructions here http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html as they were the simplest I could find to install a custom ROM and unlock the GPS. However, I find that the GPS takes a really long time to lock, several minutes at least. Trolling through several forums I see links to this url http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix which supposedly contains information to make your GPS lock faster but that page doesn't exist and not even google could resurrect it.
Can someone point me to a new page or post a set of instructions which I could follow to try and speed up my GPS locks?
I don't know if this matters or not but after I flashed the custom ROM and booted the device, as the OS was coming up the customizations DID run. It ran and was pretty much complete before I knew what was happening. I mention that because some threads say don't let the customizations run.
I'm using GPSViewer (included w/the ROM) to get the lock and I don't have a data connection to use to lookup satellite locations on the net.

Now can't get a GPS lock period
Am I way off-base here or is this in the wrong forum? I was looking around yesterday and found a forum for the HTC Vogue under legacy devices (hadn't seen it before) so I can move it there if needed.
On another note, I did some more research and it seems that AGPS requires a data connection. Hope someone can confirm or deny that.
But AGPS aside, I've probably gotten a GPS lock only 3 times since I've flashed it on Friday and for the past day and a half when I try to get a lock I see no activity.
At this url dawkins.50webs.com/phone_screens you can see screenshots from the GPSViewer app on the phone. It will stay like this until I finally give up and quit after a few hours; doesn't matter if I'm indoors or out.
Just looking for some suggestions here. Should I reflash the ROM? a different ROM? radio? to a new radio? and what about customizations?

How did you get them to lock. I am on the same boat as you. Didn't need the gps till now. can you tell me the exact steps you used that is getting you to lock the gps? and are you outside when you get a lock. or you get locks everywhere? and what is your agps ip? I pick up satellites but no lock. I also have data plan so this sucks.
I flashed back to sprint rom with no gps then verizon rom then custom rom the gps is unlocked but can't get them to lock.
and then http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-titan/36377-alltel-gps-gps-super-fast-lockon.html
my radio is 3.42.50
called htc today all the settings seems fine
Called verizon they told me they can not give the agps setting because this phone is made to only work with vznavigator.