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BREAKING NEWS: AT&T Versions of Rhodium & Topaz Confirmed!!!

According to Engadget Mobile, AT&T will have its own versions of the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2. Some old, leaked documents indicate that these devices will come to AT&T (soon!):
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This is a leaked, most likely internal, document that summarizes its features, specs, selling points, etc. Unfortunately, as expected, AT&T butchered the keyboard from the original offset keyboard, which is a huge selling point for this device. Head on over to Engadget to read the full story. See the photographs here. Notice the "WM 7.X refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date", it seems that this device will be upgradeable to WM7.x, although I doubt it will come in September, considering the amount of delay they've had with WM7 so far. And although it might be the proximity sensor, there also appears to be a camera on the front of the device.
One point that the article makes is that the "Fortress" will most likely NOT be released on the 25th of May according to the documents, but will probably be released later, because these documents are old and most likely outdated in terms of ETA to the network. 'Tis a very exciting day for AT&T subscribers everywhere!
Dave
PS: If this is old news, or has been posted already, please feel free to take this post down, Mods. Thanks.

I'm an ATT man, and it looks like I'll be shopping for something unlocked.

I just saw this on a twitter post from pocketnow.com and it really made my day!! I don't know if I'm digging the red keyboard. and the offset keyboard is really completely gone huh..that was a major selling point for me. but it's ok I guess. I'm still gonna get the phone.
so it'll get the 6.5 upgrade AND the 7.x upgrade when it comes out?? sorry if it's a common sense question I just wanna make sure.

Probably same here, but it's still big news for a lot of people.
Besides, since this supports AT&T's networks, it most likely means that there will be an AT&T compatible unlocked version from HTC, which I had been doubting would come.
@poppinpengawen: Nobody really knows for sure when, but the most likely answer, according to this, is yes. Besides, even if not, that's practically the reason why cooked ROMs were made.
Dave

haha yea, you make a good point. I'm sure that the cooked roms will end up being better than the actual upgrades offered thru AT&T/HTC. but at least we know that it'll be upgradeable to the new versions of WM, even without a cooked ROM [:

I knew ATT would mess up the phone, but never thought theyd mess it up THAT badly. I'm sticking with getting an unlocked, offset keyboard version.. that one looks horrible.
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Whatever, Id rather have a GSM F'd up Touch Pro2 than some jank CDMA Touch Pro that I cant use overseas.
Honestly, I dont care that AT&T changed the keyboard, because unlike Verizon, they actually dont physically weaken their phones. That plus GSM makes AT&T the best US carrier.

Why unlocked?

DrawnToScale said:
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because of the keyboard choice

hmmm I'd wanna get an unlocked one too as long as it supports the AT&T 3G bands. but I think I'm just gonna stick with the AT&T subsidized version. gotta save money I guess.. /:

uhh.... Why have the Y and the Z key changed places?
Also, the keyboard doesn't look so good compared to the unlocked version.

Very interesting point, I hadn't noticed that before. A little Wikipedia-ing led me to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ. It explains that this keyboard configuration is used in Central, Eastern, and German speaking parts of europe. I'm not entirely sure what this means, but it's really weird, that's for sure.
Dave

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?

No, the keyboard will probably be worse than this if these aren't real. You'll probably have to crank some crank on the side of the phone 100 times before you can use it, or the letters will spontaniously re-arrange themselves randomly every 10 minutes. AT&T always, ALWAYS, ruins the keyboards.
Dave

I hope its before july
I really hope it come out soooner than later, no later than the end june. Just watch it will be in the chistmas rush November Decenber.

poppinpengawen said:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?
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I agree with Dave. If this isn't it, it will probably be worse.

Has any one seen anything from the FCC or, does a standard HTC GSM unit qualify the Att unit.

With CDMA and GSM support it looks like Sprint is still the carrier to beat for this device. I would add the keyboard configuration as another reason, but it's looking more and more like the keyboard won't look like this. Not only are there mistakes in the layout, but zooming in on it it doesn't even look like those are real keys. The whole thing looks like a Photoshop project to me.
I don't see in the specs that a front facing camera is included but is shown in the picture. This also makes me think this is not representative of what ATT will actually release.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/05/htc-fortress-slide.jpg
in that pic is states 5 row qwerty keyboard. maybe the pic of the phone is just a render and not final?

the ad also says its only 16mm thick, but the touch pro 2 is supposed to be 17.3 mm thick. that would be awesome if they made it thinner.

USA Tmobile User Rejoice "Picture Inside"

Got this from a rep, phone looks cool. Thought I'd share.

cool? o.o ... i have to disagree.. it looks like crap. The front buttons annoy the piss out of me.

What's wrong with the buttons? Other than the color, I like the design, very simplistic.

I would have to agree, I took a crap about 10 mins ago and could have swore I saw exactly that same device floating about an inch under the water. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to kill your excitement over the phone and all. But call HTC they are going to make a US 3g unlocked and it will be released very soon the rep told me so last time I talked to him, he said now that theres a larger market over here they are gonna start forcing the US stores to have the ability to fix the higher end phones and hopefully by 2010 we will have ship dates that are the same if not a week later than overseas. (for unlocked versions that work on our bands). Call a rep, be nice talk to him like a human being and you could find yourself in a 30 to 45 min conversation and a lot of info.

Don't have the business or professional looks compare to the original one :> (Just my opinion)
Glad I did not wait for this phone and get the unlocked one. Phew!!!

Justin241982 said:
But call HTC they are going to make a US 3g unlocked and it will be released very soon the rep told me so last time I talked to him,
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ill believe this when i see it. Im waiting for my non-3g unlocked to get here as we speak, but i dont have 3g in my area nor do i plan to use data off Wi-Fi anyway, so i dont care. But if they do start to offer it here, good for them.

Lyian, that's alot of money to spend for a phone you know won't ever have 3G in the states.

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Tmo is 1700/2100 and ATT is 850/1900 right? So does this mean the TMo version can do 3g on both networks? I wonder if the ATT version will work the same way?

Yep, the tmobile version will work on both. My guess is that the ATT version will support 850, 1900 and 2100 since these are the most common. tmobile US is the only carrier to start using the 1700 frequency so my guess is that you'll only see phones with this band from tmobile.

the buttons do not look that bad on an actual phone.
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=10034.0
*quoted from their site because it sucks, and keeps crashing*
I went into my local store today to ask about the Touch Pro 2. Amazingly the rep I asked about it reached in his pocket and handed it to me. He allowed me to use it for 45 minutes and take as many photos and videos as I wanted, I took a lot. Unfortunately I only had my iPhone on me so the picture quality is not the greatest, but I did my best to get sharp shots. I even remembered the fingerprints on the recent batch and cleaned the phone off for my last few shots. One last thing, I have the original iPhone so I had to install a video app while I was at the store to get the videos, that is why they are low resolution-I figured they are better than nothing!'
The phone is nothing short of amazing and gorgeous in person. All my concerns about color are now gone, I love it! The phone feels like a precision instrument, build quality is off the charts! It also felt amazingly slim in my hand, no concerns about being a brick at all! It was thinner than my iPhone I had with me in its leather case. Absolutely incredible device.
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And the videos:
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I have a LOT more footage and photos. If there is something specific you want to see let me know and I will see if I captured it.
Enjoy!
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more from that link.
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Meh... I'm glad I got the Euro version. The buttons on the front of the TMoe device are sticking up higher off the device and I like the silver keyboard a whole lot better than the black keyboard. Plus the big logo splatted on the front of the device is just an eyesore.
But other than that it is still a very nice device.

flyboy009 said:
Lyian, that's alot of money to spend for a phone you know won't ever have 3G in the states.
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I also didnt want to wait for them to get to my carriers, or be forced into getting the higher plan if i wanted it at all, and at the time i ordered it, it didnt look like they were going to make a US 3g Unlocked version.
Also, as my sig states. 3g isn't even in my area, so getting one that worked wouldn't do me any good.
The t-mo version i just dont like. The buttons sticking out are an eye sore andi dont like how they sharpened the edges. on the entire thing.

When I first saw the TMo TP2 in a video, my appreciation of its aesthetics went way up compared to the still pictures I'd seen.
I still think it's the ugliest of the American units, but at least it isn't chromed. With the info that it will work on ATT 3g, I'm almost certain I'll get the Tmo version. I'm about to go TMo prepaid, but I'd like to have the option to come back to ATT. While I certainly don't want data any time soon, I plan to have this phone for LONG time, and things might change a couple of years in, so I at least want the option.

But here's a point I'd like to bring up:
if indeed these specs are correct and the Tmobile version can roam on ATT, that means it can also roam worldwide. Now when we think of Tmobile we only think of the US division. We forget the rest of the world covered by the rest of Tmobile's divisions. ATT folks can roam on those networks and vice versa. Unless say for instance Tmobile UK is getting a piece of the roaming fees they reimburse ATT for their UK customers roaming in the States, then it would make sense for all Rhodiums global Tmobile sells to its customers worldwide to have the same exact radio config as the Tmobile USA ones. It would also make sense for HTC to build 1 version of the phone with all radios present then based on carrier exclusivity disable or enable them as needed via ROM.
Which would mean, once we get a ROM dump of a Tmobile USA phone, that could potentially be the stepping stone in enabling all of the frequencies in a stock Rhodium and/or carrier flavors of the device.
This is purely speculative of course...

I'm pretty sure the 850/1900MHz frequencies listed on those specs are part of the GSM bands it will cover, as it has Quad-band GSM, and not part of the 3G frequencies it will use.

You're right, but the specs sheet doesn't differentiate between the bands.

Release date being pushed back
http://www.wmexperts.com/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-rumored-be-delayed
Bad news for you T-Mobile fans waiting patiently for the HTC Touch Pro 2. TmoNews is citing an anonymous source in saying that release has been moved from July 22 to Aug. 12. Hey, you've waited this long. What's a couple more weeks?
TMN is still going with the July 8 launch date for the Dash 3G, as well as the $170 price point (ouch!) with a two-year contract.

WTF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJhBPU-4WY
it has a 3.5MM headphone jack!

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5767
Yeah, the Telus and apparently Verizon Wireless phones have 3.5mm jacks. And of course VW forces you to get a data plan for all new smartphones..
(An issue if you're a wi-fi only guy)

Touch Pro3

Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?

LocDogg said:
Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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I'm not crazy about WP7, at least the initial release of info. They've killed everything that was great about WinMo and opted for the locked-down, iPhone-like, walled garden approach. I'd love a TP3 with WM6.5.3, more RAM, and a Snapdragon processor...and US 3G bands.

That kind of processor does sound pretty sweet. And the capacitive touch screen. But no hardware keyboard... I don't know what I'd do without it, but thats just me.

LocDogg said:
Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
totally agree with dwboston ...I'm with 6.5.# with better specs Not sold on windows 7 at all so far.

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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
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It would be a Touch or HD...The main reason I would buy TP would be because of the hard keyboard...

I'll wait for the first Windows 7 Phone that includes a decent keyboard. Hopefully HTC, but would consider SonyEricsson as well.

I won't be touching a Windows phone ever again after this.
TP2 was a major disappointment for me because of OS, underpowered processor, and (nit picky) the fact that Telus (Canada) would release the version that does not work on their HSPA network.
I'll be swapping to Palm / webOS -- ideally the newer model that will be launched around the same time with a larger display.

Do You Think Screen Shots Will be Released Soon?

LocDogg said:
soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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I think it would depend on what those specs are... and have a hw-keyboard, of course. I wouldn't buy if all I knew was the name "TP3".

Seriously doubt if I'll be having anything WM again unless something spectacular happens. I like the TP2 hardware but WM really disappoints. I read somewhere that the HD2 is a wonderful piece of hardware crippled by it's software and that's how I feel about the TP2.
Android for me next I think

theres no pictures or specs or anything of the touch pro 3. theres no reason we really need wm7, it doesnt seem to bring much besides a new interface. ill still have my touch pro 2. and if i still have it while the current version of windows mobile dies, i hope android will be as close to 100% running on it as possible. i hope i dont get pushed into buying an iphone.

I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..

corepda said:
I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..
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Same here. Actually that would be my only replacement for my tp2.

windows phone 7 4 me

The only negs have found with TP2 is
1. Weight ... but it gives a solid feel
2. Faster processor
3. The zoom bar is quite useless - either make screen bigger/create a 'dpad'/make device smaller (not screen)
Have installed ZoomBarPlus today so will see if use the zoom bar more
Other than that very happy with TP2 ...nothing else on maket that would even consider at the moment

i don't see how the tp3 would be the 'upgrade' from tp2, or even tp1 if it's the htc tera as rumoured and specs are indeed as leaked
in fact, it seems like a downgrade and a complete disgrace to the 'touch pro' line (although it only consists of 2 phones, 4 if u include the tytn and tytn 2)
wqvga and a 600mhz qualcomm cpu which STILL doesn't have proper drivers? oh c'mon HTC. our patience is running out

Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....

xmoo said:
Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....
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That's Trophy, I assume...

Only if the TP3 has a processor on crack
I gotta agree that unless the physical specs are much better...such as a processor on steroids, I am quite happy with my TP2.
I like the solid feel, I absolutely LOVE the physical keyboard...and I am perfectly happy with 6.1 as it is super stable (even though 6.5 is prettier). My only complaint is the processor...I want a processor on crack!! Give me that while keeping all the faboo things about the TP2 and I may consider getting a TP3...otherwise, no way!!
As for WinMo7...not impressed with the info out there about it...sounds like a step backwards!!

Tera
I don´t think we will see any Touch Pro 3 in 2010, perhaps in 2011...
As for Tera, I don´t think it´s an upgrade for Rhodium
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Desire on AT&T sometime? Please?

I'm in love with the Desire, does anyone have any news in this regard? I've googled a lot and there are random rumours.. Even rumours at this point will keep me happy.
Note: Yes, I know, the N1 will work on AT&T. Now we have that out of the way.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think it is coming. US Cellular is getting it, however they are CDMA carrier. As far as AT&T goes...they might be getting the HTC Legend. It just passed through the FCC with bands capable of catching AT&T 3G.
This has been discussed on HoFo. It sucks...but IMHO AT&T is focusing all of their attention on the iPhone coming out in the next few weeks.
One thing to note is that the Samsung Galaxy S is rumored to be released on all 4 carriers and unlocked just like the Nexus One

You could always import a Telstra Desire since they work on the same bands, if I'm not mistaken.

redrazr7791 said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think it is coming. US Cellular is getting it, however they are CDMA carrier. As far as AT&T goes...they might be getting the HTC Legend. It just passed through the FCC with bands capable of catching AT&T 3G.
This has been discussed on HoFo. It sucks...but IMHO AT&T is focusing all of their attention on the iPhone coming out in the next few weeks.
One thing to note is that the Samsung Galaxy S is rumored to be released on all 4 carriers and unlocked just like the Nexus One
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Yeah, AT&T wouldn't want to interfere with the jobsPhone.. meh... I've been reading around some of the rumours, one called Wildfire looks a bit like an Incredible with a hardware keyboard, I'd be okay with that one.. I like having a keyboard.
But this Dell Aero and Backflip.. Meh.

khaytsus said:
Yeah, AT&T wouldn't want to interfere with the jobsPhone.. meh... I've been reading around some of the rumours, one called Wildfire looks a bit like an Incredible with a hardware keyboard, I'd be okay with that one.. I like having a keyboard.
But this Dell Aero and Backflip.. Meh.
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Little kiddy phones
I forgot about the Telstra Desire, but I really do not think dishing out $800 just to get 3G is worth it. To each their own...we all have our limits

redrazr7791 said:
Little kiddy phones
I forgot about the Telstra Desire, but I really do not think dishing out $800 just to get 3G is worth it. To each their own...we all have our limits
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Yeah, I'd definitely get the N1 over the Desire if I had to import.. I don't have anything against the N1, but in some regards the Desire has bumped specs and I'll admit; I really like Sense.
But then again, it'll probably be like me using Windows Mobile's Today screen on my Tilt 2.. I'll get tired of the flashy stuff fairly fast and want simple and fast. Although I've used Sense on my Tilt 2 and XDAndroid and while it's quite slow, it's very nice.. Although I did see someone say they were using a Desire Sense on their N1, so probably not difficult to get it on there if I went that route.

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Although I did see someone say they were using a Desire Sense on their N1, so probably not difficult to get it on there if I went that route.
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You could flash it onto the NX-1. I haven't been keeping up with Paul's progress on his "project" but...bluetooth for me is crucial. I really do not like the stock Android UI, so the Desire and Sense UI was a major factor for me buying it.
AT&T EDGE where I live is super fast so browsing speed really isn't that bad as some people think. I toggled between 3G and EDGE on my iphone 3G for a couple of days and could easily see the excessive battery drainage

redrazr7791 said:
You could flash it onto the NX-1. I haven't been keeping up with Paul's progress on his "project" but...bluetooth for me is crucial. I really do not like the stock Android UI, so the Desire and Sense UI was a major factor for me buying it.
AT&T EDGE where I live is super fast so browsing speed really isn't that bad as some people think. I toggled between 3G and EDGE on my iphone 3G for a couple of days and could easily see the excessive battery drainage
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erm.. EDGE = 10k/sec give or take... 3G = 700k/sec (average for me here), faster/slower in other places I'm sure
Yes, less power used on EDGE in almost all cases, even those of it taking less time, but very much worth it IMO.. My last few phones have been 3G and while I've tinkered with disabling it here and there to save power it's hardly ever worth it for the speed and losing data on voice calls.
I'm staring at the Google Nexus One payment page.. Sigh. I really want the Desire.
BTW, I see what you say about the Desire ROM on Nexus... I've flashed a few ROMs but that looks scary.. Hmmffffffffffff..

Well I wouldn't say it is scary, but you might face the usual problems like certain features missing or not working or the freeze-ups and need for reboots. Either way, I would just hold out for a little longer. The NX-1 came out in January, meaning that HTC will probably be working on a new, more powerful phone to release soon.
The Evo and Incredible should be available soon. Both the Nexus and Desire are already available so in a few months...say Q2-Q3...we will probably be seeing HTC drop new phones that are GSM ready.

Bleh, don't search ATT Desire on Twitter, lots of people saying they're sure it's coming.. Makes me twitchy.

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Bleh, don't search ATT Desire on Twitter, lots of people saying they're sure it's coming.. Makes me twitchy.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not.
I was going to stay with at&t at the launch because they always have awesome phones from htc and all. But now that they no longer have unlimited data and i am getting a new plan too. So now as long as Verizon keeps their unlimited data, I will be going with them.
Only question is what Devices are going to be out for verizon. I keep seeing at&t for alot of them.
I love HTC, like the new look of the dell lightning but don't know what's going where. I have been out of the whole phone changes for a little bit. Kind of hard to catch up. I still have an htc touch pro. I want a full querty keyboard for one, I want the wp7, and now I am going to be stuck with what comes out with Verizon. Any ideas or help would be great.
Trying to figure out some ideas now, if there are any.

Verizon is also rumored to go to tiered data, so don't count on them having unlimited data plans for long

i know that much. There was an article that said it wasn't till 4g comes out. that's not till jan or so.

As far as we know so far...
HTC Gold_W (CDMA) - Sprint
HTC Gold (GSM) - some UK carrier(s)
HTC Schubert - Telus & T-Mobile
HTC Mondrian - Telus, Rogers, AT&T
HTC Spark_W - Bell Mobility and Verizon
HTC Mozart - Telstra
Dell Lightning - AT&T and/or T-Mobile

RustyGrom said:
As far as we know so far...
HTC Gold_W (CDMA) - Sprint
HTC Gold (GSM) - some UK carrier(s)
HTC Schubert - Telus & T-Mobile
HTC Mondrian - Telus, Rogers, AT&T
HTC Spark_W - Bell Mobility and Verizon
HTC Mozart - Telstra
Dell Lightning - AT&T and/or T-Mobile
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Mozart has been rumored for T-Mobile as well

wow. so nothing set for verizon yet. thanks for the update. if anyone finds out about verizon keep me updated.Thanks.

DaPitt84 said:
wow. so nothing set for verizon yet. thanks for the update. if anyone finds out about verizon keep me updated.Thanks.
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The Spark_W

Are there any pics available for the spark? That's one of he new 1.5 snapdragon phones isn't it?

Does anybody have any clue about SonyEricsson?
I know they were hardware partners but I don't find any further info yet.

doministry said:
Does anybody have any clue about SonyEricsson?
I know they were hardware partners but I don't find any further info yet.
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There was just the big Dell leak to I think it was engadget and Conflipper had access to the info (roms?) for the HTC devices. Other stuff hasn't been leaked yet so we'll have to wait and see. We obviously know that Samsung and LG are going to be shipping devices since they've been producing test hardware for MSFT already but we don't know exactly what/where/when they're gonna release.

Looks like Sprint or T-Mobile will be your only choices left for Unlimited Data by the time WP7 is out. :/
Sprint > *

Microsoft confirms Windows Phone 7 manufacturers: ASUS, Dell, HTC, LG, and Samsung all on board.
I know it's been said but that Dell Lightning is sexy as hell.
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RustyGrom said:
Microsoft confirms Windows Phone 7 manufacturers: ASUS, Dell, HTC, LG, and Samsung all on board.
I know it's been said but that Dell Lightning is sexy as hell.
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That would be awesome device.
But where is SE?

doministry said:
That would be awesome device.
But where is SE?
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No clue. Maybe they're doing android? Maybe they're ditching the phone biz? Maybe they're just going to roll out WP7 devices later? Maybe they're focusing on feature phones?

RustyGrom said:
No clue. Maybe they're doing android? Maybe they're ditching the phone biz? Maybe they're just going to roll out WP7 devices later? Maybe they're focusing on feature phones?
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No, they're focusing on highend actually.
Android is their success right now.
They also support Symbian and Windows.
It's been rumoured they'll ditch one of these platforms.
I remember them beeing one of Microsoft partners...

doministry said:
No, they're focusing on highend actually.
Android is their success right now.
They also support Symbian and Windows.
It's been rumoured they'll ditch one of these platforms.
I remember them beeing one of Microsoft partners...
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The key to the news is that those are all "launch" partners. So I would guess that SE is coming, just a bit tardy to the party. I can't see them going with Symbian, Maemo, or anything else over WP7.

RustyGrom said:
The key to the news is that those are all "launch" partners. So I would guess that SE is coming, just a bit tardy to the party. I can't see them going with Symbian, Maemo, or anything else over WP7.
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Well, me either....

Any Jack Series
Just Curious Will Samsung Come out with a WP7 Blackjack series.

This is BIG