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Letters/keys skipped when typing in WM6 (ONLY in the messaging application)

When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...

pinhead said:
When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...
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I have the exact error with all the WM6 roms, very very frustrating

I too sometimes get this problem, normally at the start of a text if I start typing quickly. it doesn't happen all the time tho only occasionally. using the lvsw rom at the moment but also had it with the SA WM5 rom

I've got this problem too, but in WM5.

same here on WMXL 0.2

I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?

pinhead said:
I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?
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I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.

I agree with nmonger, I have alleviated the problem by setting the autocomplete to only suggest after 3 letters (it was set to "a space" before). Also I have made it only suggest 2 words (it was set to 4).

I had this from day 1, it`s just not designed to work that fast...
i hope it`s a driver problem and not keyboard hardware problem.

nmonger said:
I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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So far this seems to have solved my problem. Thanks!

I knew it had something to do with the word completion. I set it to suggest 1 word but it keeps suggesting four. I just changed it to after 3 letters and solved my problem. Thank you for pointing that out. Now i don't look drunk when messaging at 11am!

Thank the man above someone else is having this issue as well....trying the word completion trick and seeing what happens.

worked for me - great solutions thanks

BINGO! an obvious solution in hindsight... thanks

cheers for that guys, it was one of those things that had bugged me for a while but not enough for me to look for a fix untill someone else mentioned it.

nmonger said:
I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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Worked for me

I was just thinking about how often I had this issue today. I was SURE I was pressing all the keys. I tried turning word completion off and that didn't seem to change anything (strange). I'll give changing it to 6 a try, that makes sense.

I have noticed this problem on the Dash, Blackjack, Universal, and a few other Windows Mobile devices...all WM 5 and newer. This is the first time I have seen a solution. I don't think this worked on any of those devices and that is why I posted. I thought there was going to be a more complicated fix on this phone too!
What really stuns me is the lack of complaining about the skipping issue on other devices, such as those that I mentioned, as I am sure I am not the only one who sees this happening on multiple devices.

I thought it was all down to me being lazy, a bad speller and having thumbs too big for the small keyboard.
Trying the solution and all seems well so far.

thanks a lot, it's working

WM6.5 update - Feedback & initial impressions

All,
Upgraded my unbranded UK TP2 to WM6.5 yesterday and just re-installed all the apps; here's some initial impressions.
It IS worth doing the hard reset to do the upgrade. First off, you're going to have a nice clean install which is always a good thing; secondly WM6.5 itself is more evolution than revolution; small graphical tweaks, things are 'easier' to stab at with your fingers (the screen seems more forgiving), and text/menu options/e-mails etc are spaced out more to make using the device easier on the run.
Some changes/good things/quirks in WM6.5:
Owner information option is gone from the "settings" menu. Simply activate on the Today Screen, click where it says "Touch here to enter owner information" and you're in the same place. Don't bother messing with a nice clean install with that .cab file doing the rounds on here when you just don't have to.
The honeycomb menu is a personal choice, but it's flexible and clean looking enough to make it easy to navigate around. I've gone from using SPB Menu 2 (as version 3 just did NOT integrate with TF3D and the phone contacts (soft key) option) back to just using the standard WM6.5 menu and Today Screen.
WM6.5 introduces new options to reject calls with a text message - most useful.
WM6.5 introduces a new option to automatically activate the pen notes application when the stylus is removed from the holster during a call. The main reason to remove the stylus is to scribble a phone number down, so this option is again, most welcome.
VOICE DIALLING OVER BLUETOOTH WORKS AGAIN! The feature I missed the most on my TP2 works again. I installed MS Voice Dialler 1.6UK version and with my Jawbone BT headset I'm back to normal operation.
Re-organising the main honeycomb menu is a little painful; rather than a nice "hold and drag" method, you can only "Move To Top" or "Move Down". Putting things into folders and using File Explorer is the order of the day.
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
FM Radio application is installed as a default. Again, no need for 3rd party hacks or apps.
WiFi reception and throughput speed appears to have been boosted. I certainly get a better reception in my home, in the same locations I used to get slow/juttery video streaming in.
Battery increments - not seen it in 1% as yet, anyone else confirm if it's 1 or 10% increments?
No major application incompatibility problems that I can see as yet.
Run the Rhodium Advanced Config app over the device to ensure fast GPS, A-GPS and the like is tweaked to your convenience and you'll find you can get pretty much everything you want done with a standard configuration, with your normal apps installed on it, rather than hacking and tweaking. As a result the system takes a much smaller memory footprint and everything seems to hang together more smoothly and without slowing the system down.
Hope this helps clear some things up for your normal/power users looking to update their devices. All-in-all I'm really happy with the WM6.5 update. It almost feels like the TP2 was made in the first place for WM6.5 and its just come to life with it, almost as if WM6.1 was a (temporary) necessary retrograde step that HTC didn't want to do...
Thanks and be good to see other people's feedback on the update.
Adam.

Thx for the update.
Very glad to hear that voice dialing over BT is working again and that there is a slide to lock and FM Radio (without having to install battery killing 3th party apps).
Looks very promising.
Hope I can install this soon and add some comments. Dutch version however not yet available.

The quick drop down menu from the start button is gone in 6.5/ Is there a decent cab to get it back? I've tried some previously that did not work. One thing I would miss with 6.5. Yeah, I know a petty thing to some, important to me.
I dislike BT so that feature means nothing, don't care for titanium or tf3d, so ms 3.5 is my prefered ui. My tp2 is one of the most finger friendly phones I've had yet even while running 6.1 . I know it always seems to make sense to upgrade to the latest and greatest, but the latest isn't neccessarily the greatest.
Having tried several diff cooked 6.5's on my old tp I may sit this one out for awhile. If you've neve tried 6.5 then by all means one should give it a try. Judge for yourself.

Bluetooth
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?

adamchap said:
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
Adam.
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Maybe I'm missing something. It seems that the slide to unlock doesn't lock the hardware buttons. If the phone is in a case or a pocket and a call comes in, it's possible to accidentally press the hardware accept or hang up button. That's a problem that only seems solvable using 3rd party apps.

I'm very satisfied with this 6.5 rom release. It includes basically everything I wanted. The only thing is the Manila 6.5 with the animated today menu that changes as the weather from your localization changes.

even though this official release of winMo 6.5 looks great (installed the french one on an unbranded tp2) :
-i think the colored tf3d look is giving the rhodium a less serious image (too much green in it
-in general, the OS seem to be quite heavy for the device
-there's an obvious problem with the tf3d today clock (which is always giving me exactly 1hour & 2minutes earlier for 2seconds everytime i press the "no" button)
-also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
and seriously guys, i still don't get why they didn't provide tp2 users with manila 2.5, it makes absolutelly no "SENSE"

thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you

true2you said:
also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
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agreed, it's a bit annoying, it also deactiveates the wi-fi when you soft reset the device... I'm sure there will be a tweak for it soon!

malumbreras said:
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
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s2u2 still works but the new 'lock' that this version of Windows Mobile is very similar...

I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'

lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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For the Owner info - see this topic (link in first page):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571376

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I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds.
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.

t69broken said:
This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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but the new clocks still flips as well......

never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst

t69broken said:
This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst

true2you said:
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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I think it actually has something to do with the my location thing, but since I can't get that to work properly most of it is just an annoyance. Lol

E-mail to HTC (bug that I found in Manila 2.1 in the WM 6.1 that still maintains in WM 6.5):
Good Morning
I've been using the Windows Mobile 6.1 for a while and found a bug that I was expecting to be solved in the 6.5 release but unfortunately no.
When I choose in the weather tab the City of Lisbon, Portugal and update the forecast it corrects me the system time to GMT CASABLANCA instead of using the correct GMT LONDON, DUBLIN.
The Portuguese Time includes changes to the Winter Time and Summer Time, like in UK. To correct that I need to use always as my default city London, not taking use of the function from the new Manila: "My Location".
Can that be corrected in a next release?
Best Regards
Márcio Teixeira

apv245l said:
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
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Nope, it's still the WidComm BT Stack.

lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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Quick and easy - don't bother downloading and installing cabs, this is easier!
Go to Settings -> Today and make sure that in the "Items" tab, the option for "Owner Info" is ticked.
Now go to your today screen. There will be the owner information line - and if you've entered nothing, it'll say "Tap to enter info..." just tap there and enter the info in the control panel that appears.
If you then don't want Owner Info on your today screen (but just wanted to enter a username for app registration etc), then go back into Settings -> Today and untick the Owner Info option.
Thx,
Adam.

SMS vibration, default action, call vibration...

Hiya.
Im using my TP2 for two month and Im really satisfied with this phone (as I did with TyTnII (thanks for tab and ok keys there ;-).
But few things bother me so Im trying to ask here:
1) Default action in email is reply all. Is it possible to change it to reply?
2) incomming SMS have long vibration time. Where can I to make it shorter?
3) When Im calling someone and he pick it up, it vibrate. But too short, can it be longer?
4) there is possible to set phone to switch to external microphone when its faced down. But in spite of the fact that I have it checked, it doesnt work :-(
5) row, where is battery, time and notification pole is everything extept battery notification filed. It means that anywhere I click Notifications is opened. What bother me the most is, that there is for example new email and when I click on it nothing happened ;-(. Rhodium Pack should solve this problem, but its not avaible anymore because of some licence problem.
6) I was always using another than original rom. In TP1 I was using song recognize program, TCPMP, etc. Can someone give me advice, what ROM is now the best? What ROMs are you using and why? Can someone explain me what are shortcuts in the names (WWE etc)? Im in Western Europe, but why its so important?
Thanks a lot!!
John

I don't know the answers to everything, but I know that there are places in the registry that can be removed (named OutlookEnhancement) to remove the reply all. Here is one area to look:
[HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement]
"DLL"="OutlookEnhancement.dll"
Remove the OutlookEnhancement.dll field. I'm sure if you searched for something like remove reply all, you will find hits on it explaining how to do it.
I've seen the long vibrate on text, and haven't felt the need to change it but every now and then a bug happens where it vibrates REALLY long, like over a minute, and then I just hit a button to stop it.
I've never seen a Vibrate on Connect modification to let it vibrate longer.
Mine usually switches to external mic when I flip it upside down. I've had it not to it once or twice. Does your G-Sensor work in applications? Maybe Calibrate it? And try it on a level non moving surface (like a table).
WWE means World Wide English. Best ROM questions usually go unanswered here. Everyone's preferences for a favorite rom are different. Line up and sample the Chef's selections and see which one tastes best to you

Voice commands not understanding context

I was driving home from work yesterday. I happened to pick up my phone and see that my wife called. So I hold the Windows key and say "Call home".
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It pauses and then says "searching for 'call home'".
It can't be serious. How does it not know that I was saying "call home" not "FIND call home".
It clearly heard me say "call home", yet for some reason pulled up Bing and searched for the phrase "call home".
Happen for anyone else? How the hell do I change that? Because I've definitely said "call home" in the past and it worked.

Mine doesn't even recognise what I say :l
I eventually start screaming at my phone :'(

Is Home actually your contact's name?

PG2G said:
Is Home actually your contact's name?
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Because if it isn't the por little phone is gonna get all mixed up!

You said a wrong command.. you should say 'Call my wife'.. Siri..

sure haven't said:
I was driving home from work yesterday. I happened to pick up my phone and see that my wife called. So I hold the Windows key and say "Call home".
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It pauses and then says "searching for 'call home'".
It can't be serious. How does it not know that I was saying "call home" not "FIND call home".
It clearly heard me say "call home", yet for some reason pulled up Bing and searched for the phrase "call home".
Happen for anyone else? How the hell do I change that? Because I've definitely said "call home" in the past and it worked.
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Err, some of my suggestion after few attemps now works more better.
I usually use voice command to do simple texting and call my girlfriend.
I press windows key, wait for the prompt, then say call / text (pause for awhile) Cha Lee (pause for awhile) mobile, which will let me to call /text her mobile number.
Just keep in mind that the name you speak after the call / text command must be the same in the contact.

I'm having problems with voice commands too.
Mango seems to have screwed it up. It worked much better on NoDo.
On NoDo, whenever I say Start "App name", it recognizes it on the first go and starts it.
On Mango, when I try to do the same thing(same accent and everything), it either 1. Searches Bing 2. Call one of my contacts 3. Application could not be found.
I think it's an OS issue.
Another example: Wanted to test Voice-To-Text, so I said "I just updated my phone to Mango". It came out "I just updated my phone to angel".
How does angel rhyme with mango? This was done in a quiet environment.
Perhaps it's an issue caused by forcing Mango?
I forced mine. Anyone with un-forced Mango having similar issues?

The pronunciation of angel and mango is pretty similar...
I don't know, it's worked pretty well for me for the most part, but voice recognition still has a long way to go.

Good replies here.
Yeah the contact is just the one word "Home" and our home line. And it worked just fine before.
I think acefiredx may be on to something. Maybe a bug in Mango. And yes I forced mine, although it wouldn't make any sense for that to be the issue. I could be wrong though, my 'coding' days were with QBasic.

It may be because the way you talk. The same way accents and things like that can fool the human ear, it can definitely fool a phone.
I don't talk slow, but I can say "Call <x> mobile" all day long and the phone does fine.
That being said, I've not big on voice command and barely use it, anyways - like 90% of the world.

N8ter said:
It may be because the way you talk. The same way accents and things like that can fool the human ear, it can definitely fool a phone.
I don't talk slow, but I can say "Call <x> mobile" all day long and the phone does fine.
That being said, I've not big on voice command and barely use it, anyways - like 90% of the world.
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To be honest, unless you're getting to Moon-like interaction, then yeah, voice commands aren't that useful.
When would you use them? If you're with or around even one person, you're not or you'll feel like a douche. And if you're alone it's weird to talk outloud to a computer, it also doesn't inconvenience you to navigate with your fingers.
Driving is the only thing. But like I said, only if it's sci-fi grade. Is Siri? I'm sure it has some neat tricks to understand humans, but no, it can't be. If it were, then Apple just discovered real AI.
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Although I just sent a text without pushing a button. Ok that was pretty cool.
AND I tried the "call.. home". And that worked. So maybe I was talking too fast who knows.

Same problem here, but it`s funny... one time i said "find little dog" and the phone searched for "legal drug" wtf
I have a question DO I NEED INTERNET FOR VOICE SMS? because when i connect it to PC and try to send a voice sms it works. but when i disconnect it doesn't recognise nothing and keep 'thinking'.

flygeani said:
Same problem here, but it`s funny... one time i said "find little dog" and the phone searched for "legal drug" wtf
I have a question DO I NEED INTERNET FOR VOICE SMS? because when i connect it to PC and try to send a voice sms it works. but when i disconnect it doesn't recognise nothing and keep 'thinking'.
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Yes you need internet.. it send your voice to your carrier i think and than it comes back with the words.. its I think for regionalization.. to identify your accent and not just uniform american accent accross all phones.. also it would take a lot of memory to save all those voice commands on phone.

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AND I tried the "call.. home". And that worked. So maybe I was talking too fast who knows.
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This is exactly what I means, give a small pause after each voice command.
Glad that works for you. I always used that to call and text when I'm driving.
(Of coz with a headset on)

Yes, the following command has worked in the past. Seems that my arrive is just getting problematic. I can't use the flashlight anymore as the touch bottons on the front are too sensitive. I even have issues turning the phone off. I have to hold it on the top part of the size. Back on topic.
Call, louie's burger
Searching for Call Louie's Burger
Call, louie's burger
Searching for Hola Leesburg
Call, louie's burger
Searching for Carl Beber
I think I am getting trolled.

The only thing I use it for is to have SMS conversations while I'm walking down the street. Because when it's 25 degrees outside you don't want to take your glove off just to respond. However, I've been noticing it missing texts. I feel the Vibrate and hear the Notification tone, but it doesn't give me to option to have it read or reply to it.
But it's the only phone I have that allows me to do that, so I deal with it. The accuracy when dictating texts is much better than Google. ALMOST on par with Vlingo. The server round trips are very long, though...

^ Might want to check that in the settings...
However. I find that the voice input is not good at all, even worse with Mango. If you actually use "WhatIs" App, it is defintely way better in actually saying what it is.

sure haven't said:
To be honest, unless you're getting to Moon-like interaction, then yeah, voice commands aren't that useful.
When would you use them? If you're with or around even one person, you're not or you'll feel like a douche. And if you're alone it's weird to talk outloud to a computer, it also doesn't inconvenience you to navigate with your fingers.
Driving is the only thing. But like I said, only if it's sci-fi grade. Is Siri? I'm sure it has some neat tricks to understand humans, but no, it can't be. If it were, then Apple just discovered real AI.
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Although I just sent a text without pushing a button. Ok that was pretty cool.
AND I tried the "call.. home". And that worked. So maybe I was talking too fast who knows.
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Today on wp7 " call home " and it binged "taliban"...three attemtps failed.
Today on siri ... doesn't matter... it works every single time.. for everything.
Today, on android through my jacket (phone in pocket) with a dirt bike running "navigate to trailhead purdy" and it started navigation to the exact location I asked. Open dualsportmaps worked, starting plotting a gps (gpx) track immediately. "Text wife mobile im lost but ok, be home late".... all through my jacket.. wow

neoxphuse said:
^ Might want to check that in the settings...
However. I find that the voice input is not good at all, even worse with Mango. If you actually use "WhatIs" App, it is defintely way better in actually saying what it is.
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It's checked, that's why I said it misses them. It gets one and then fails to trigger on the next one.
I find the Speech Recognition for texting rather decent. I think the server round trips are excessive, though. I boxed up my Vibrant to use the HD7 as a daily driver and the biggest issue I'm having with the "transition" is the lack of Vlingo's voice service on WP7. On Android you can use their app and you can also set Vlingo as the default speech service for the phone to use in the settings. It's much more accurate and round trips a lot faster than TellMe.
Also, there are too few places where you can dictate text into input boxes (no Mic on the keyboard).
I think that will hurt them in the long run, though, since they won't be collecting as much speech data as Google/Apple does on their devices.

Great point
I wanted to bring this up after playing with my Focus S for a while I notice that my original Focus understands alot more items. I find it harder now to call people using voice dial on the Focus S as it was very easy on the predecessor.

2 mango niggles - Otherwise perfect

Other than these 2 niggles, I gotta say my HD7 with Mango is near perfect...
As I said, niggles... Not complaints or faults...
1. To fully exit an app you hit the back button. To keep it live and available to be jumped back into you hit the home key... Only issue? If you want to fully exit an app, but the back key in the app has another fuction like web browsing, you sometimes have to hit the back key 10+ times to fully exit...
2. When the home screen is fully scrolled to the bottom, the people live tiles pictures resets blank...

Oh, wow, because you sure have to freaking close the apps all the time. Or people will see your midgets porn?
I have several flaws to blame. But making a topic cursing the OS because you need to close the apps and its dificult to press the back button, and worse, the "People live tile resets blank". Seriously?! Does that bother you so bad?

The guy is entitled to post his opinions

There's really no need to exit a program fully unless it's actually a program that runs in the background (which will use your battery correct?). Else, just leave the browser.
If you're really going to be anal about exiting the browser, just go the browser tabs and hit the X. Now if you hit back it'll exit...
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argentocruz said:
Not complaints or faults...
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Just stuff that bothers him, we all have something...

Having to press back to close apps does annoy me a bit. I know i technically don't need to but personally I just like having a clean multi task menu.
OCD ? maybe... just personal preference and the guy and myself are entitled to opinions. No need to get so angry about it.

So far...I've yet to even bother closing the application.
I just keep pressing the HOME key and I rarely get any problems.
By the way, how do you get rid of the Music Menu once you've started it? For example, when I press the volume up, I see the music track there with pause, play, etc. I don't see the music app running in the multi-task menu.
Anyway to exit out of that?

mikeeam said:
I have several flaws to blame. But making a topic cursing the OS because you need to close the apps and its dificult to press the back button, and worse, the "People live tile resets blank". Seriously?! Does that bother you so bad?
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No need to get so angry about it.
I find topics like this helpful for me making a decision of when is the right time to return to WP7. It may not be a bug (the back button) but it's good for me to know what to expect shoudl I return.
I wouldn't have thought having the browser left open would be an issue but thanks for highlighting the porn, that might cause an issue.

Things that really niggle with mango.
1. Pressing the unlock button and there being a delayed animation for alerts and the date to come up, this was not present in nodo and really annoys me.
2. The jump tiles for apps. I think it looks really ugly, maybe if they were filled in tiles rather then the outlines it my be more aesthetically. Personaly i liked the serach system in symbian s60 5th where it was a jump to but the jump to would dynamicly change as you spelt a name out.

I have a few annoyances.
1.) Can't navigate to previously opened pages after closing IE. The back button turns into closing the app instead of previous page.
2.) Now this one is HUGE for me. All number fields should show up in the predictive text or be flagged as textable. I have multiple contacts who have work cell phone's as well and multiple businesses where the number is a cellphone. It's extremely annoying when I start to type the name and i get no results.
Another example is with voice commands "Text Frank Smith" i get no option to text the Work cell phone even though our entire conversation thread is from his work number and there has never been a text sent or received from his Mobile number.
Other business contact with the Work number only have no option to text the contact. I either have to hit the plus sign and scroll down or go to the contact and scroll left to history and click one of the previous text's.

mikeeam said:
Oh, wow, because you sure have to freaking close the apps all the time. Or people will see your midgets porn?
I have several flaws to blame. But making a topic cursing the OS because you need to close the apps and its dificult to press the back button, and worse, the "People live tile resets blank". Seriously?! Does that bother you so bad?
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Um. You know... there is this thing called Prozac. It worked wonders for me!
If you look at the topic: 2 mango niggles - Otherwise perfect. That hardly sound like a scathing criticism. Maybe you are being a little defensive?
Mango does have issues, but remember people use phones differently and never come across certain useability issues.

Yeah, it can bother, but would you create a topic to speak how bad is Mango because it resets the People Tile? I noticed it too, but it make your experience worse?
Apps in background DO NOT consume your battery. It's not in background in first place. It is "frozen" in memory. So there is no need to close (using the back button) the apps. Unless you really want to close for whatever reason.
Something that really bothers: not resuming app when opening toast notification. You just cant chat with someone else if not by MSN or Facebook, because it turns to be frustrating.
PoisonWolf said:
So far...I've yet to even bother closing the application.
I just keep pressing the HOME key and I rarely get any problems.
By the way, how do you get rid of the Music Menu once you've started it? For example, when I press the volume up, I see the music track there with pause, play, etc. I don't see the music app running in the multi-task menu.
Anyway to exit out of that?
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Dont not either, I forgot and it was gone after a while.
hwalker84 said:
I have a few annoyances.
1.) Can't navigate to previously opened pages after closing IE. The back button turns into closing the app instead of previous page.
2.) Now this one is HUGE for me. All number fields should show up in the predictive text or be flagged as textable. I have multiple contacts who have work cell phone's as well and multiple businesses where the number is a cellphone. It's extremely annoying when I start to type the name and i get no results.
Another example is with voice commands "Text Frank Smith" i get no option to text the Work cell phone even though our entire conversation thread is from his work number and there has never been a text sent or received from his Mobile number.
Other business contact with the Work number only have no option to text the contact. I either have to hit the plus sign and scroll down or go to the contact and scroll left to history and click one of the previous text's.
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To MS, it's non sense to people have two cell phones. This is really annoying, but of course it's not worse than the cursed people live tile.

mikeeam said:
But making a topic cursing the OS because you need to close the apps and its dificult to press the back button, and worse, the "People live tile resets blank". Seriously?! Does that bother you so bad?
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Sorry if it looks like I'm cursing the OS, but I'm not... I love it and have been a 'died in the wool' windows mobile man since day one... But I'm a virgo and if I painted a house to perfection, but missed one square inch, I would be able to not focus on that one tiny bit... It's just me...
Freypal said:
Having to press back to close apps does annoy me a bit. I know i technically don't need to but personally I just like having a clean multi task menu.
OCD ? maybe... just personal preference and the guy and myself are entitled to opinions. No need to get so angry about it.
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That's me for sure... I only leave something available to jump back to if I know I'm going to be needing it in that same day, else, I fully exit...
Perhaps I should experiment one day and not close a thing and just try and get comfortable with it...

mikeeam said:
Apps in background DO NOT consume your battery. It's not in background in first place. It is "frozen" in memory. So there is no need to close (using the back button) the apps. Unless you really want to close for whatever reason.
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There is a very valid reason to want to close apps using the back button. If you don't close them that way, they consume one of the (arbitrarily limited) 5 cards in the app switcher. If an app is one that you know you won't need to go back to any time soon, it makes no sense to waste a card on it, especially since Microsoft decided that we didn't need the ability to remove cards from the switcher.

leftspeaker2000 said:
Things that really niggle with mango.
1. Pressing the unlock button and there being a delayed animation for alerts and the date to come up, this was not present in nodo and really annoys me.
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When I updated to Mango, I had this problem. For another reason I hard-reset my phone and this bug has disappeared now for me.
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argentocruz said:
Sorry if it looks like I'm cursing the OS, but I'm not... I love it and have been a 'died in the wool' windows mobile man since day one... But I'm a virgo and if I painted a house to perfection, but missed one square inch, I would be able to not focus on that one tiny bit... It's just me...
That's me for sure... I only leave something available to jump back to if I know I'm going to be needing it in that same day, else, I fully exit...
Perhaps I should experiment one day and not close a thing and just try and get comfortable with it...
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Exactly that. If there are 2 or 3 apps i'm using at once i like to have a clean multi-task card to switch between. Once i'm done i close them all.

mikeeam said:
Yeah, it can bother, but would you create a topic to speak how bad is Mango because it resets the People Tile? I noticed it too, but it make your experience worse?
Apps in background DO NOT consume your battery. It's not in background in first place. It is "frozen" in memory. So there is no need to close (using the back button) the apps. Unless you really want to close for whatever reason.
Something that really bothers: not resuming app when opening toast notification. You just cant chat with someone else if not by MSN or Facebook, because it turns to be frustrating.
Dont not either, I forgot and it was gone after a while.
To MS, it's non sense to people have two cell phones. This is really annoying, but of course it's not worse than the cursed people live tile.
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I created a feature suggestion http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...344390-work-number-should-be-a-textable-field

PoisonWolf said:
So far...I've yet to even bother closing the application.
I just keep pressing the HOME key and I rarely get any problems.
By the way, how do you get rid of the Music Menu once you've started it? For example, when I press the volume up, I see the music track there with pause, play, etc. I don't see the music app running in the multi-task menu.
Anyway to exit out of that?
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Play a video, and back-out of the player. Then the player controls are gone from the screen when you press volume keys.