When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...
pinhead said:
When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...
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I have the exact error with all the WM6 roms, very very frustrating
I too sometimes get this problem, normally at the start of a text if I start typing quickly. it doesn't happen all the time tho only occasionally. using the lvsw rom at the moment but also had it with the SA WM5 rom
I've got this problem too, but in WM5.
same here on WMXL 0.2
I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?
pinhead said:
I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?
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I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
I agree with nmonger, I have alleviated the problem by setting the autocomplete to only suggest after 3 letters (it was set to "a space" before). Also I have made it only suggest 2 words (it was set to 4).
I had this from day 1, it`s just not designed to work that fast...
i hope it`s a driver problem and not keyboard hardware problem.
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I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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So far this seems to have solved my problem. Thanks!
I knew it had something to do with the word completion. I set it to suggest 1 word but it keeps suggesting four. I just changed it to after 3 letters and solved my problem. Thank you for pointing that out. Now i don't look drunk when messaging at 11am!
Thank the man above someone else is having this issue as well....trying the word completion trick and seeing what happens.
worked for me - great solutions thanks
BINGO! an obvious solution in hindsight... thanks
cheers for that guys, it was one of those things that had bugged me for a while but not enough for me to look for a fix untill someone else mentioned it.
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I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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Worked for me
I was just thinking about how often I had this issue today. I was SURE I was pressing all the keys. I tried turning word completion off and that didn't seem to change anything (strange). I'll give changing it to 6 a try, that makes sense.
I have noticed this problem on the Dash, Blackjack, Universal, and a few other Windows Mobile devices...all WM 5 and newer. This is the first time I have seen a solution. I don't think this worked on any of those devices and that is why I posted. I thought there was going to be a more complicated fix on this phone too!
What really stuns me is the lack of complaining about the skipping issue on other devices, such as those that I mentioned, as I am sure I am not the only one who sees this happening on multiple devices.
I thought it was all down to me being lazy, a bad speller and having thumbs too big for the small keyboard.
Trying the solution and all seems well so far.
thanks a lot, it's working
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I've noticed with the cooked roms (both LSVW and Black) have an issue with keypad lag and dropping letters.
I text message and e-mail rather fast. When i slide out the keyboard and start typing a text message or e-mail, the letters lag behind what i am typing (which is fine). But when the words catch up i notice some of the letters that i typed in were dropped from some of the words. The only way to prevent letters dropping is to wait 3-5 seconds EVERY TIME before i start typing. I noticed this lag and dropping letters only happens right after the phones switches to landscape.
I dont i ran into this problem with the factory rom. And with the MDA Vario and Cingular 8125, i would experience the lag, but when it caught up no letters were dropped. Are there any fixes for this?
That's been a problem for me since I got my Hermes. I think I'll wait a few months after it's been released next time I buy an HTC product. Too many problems with early versions, if you ask me.
Try reducing the auto complete...
When mine was in the default settings, it was suggesting four words as soon as I typed the second letter of each word - net result a busy processor and lags in typing...
I have now set it to suggest just two words after four letters and emails and texts are now a delight to type! (It does however also affect the auto suggest for email and text addressing so I now have to type four letters of someones name to get suggestions
Well if i turn off or limit autocomplete... that kinda defeats the purpose. I shouldnt have to step down my settings for it to work. I really dont think this is a hardware problem. There has to be some kind of fix for this...
As i said, roms with my mda vario and 8125 dont lag during typing text or emails. I have autocomplete suggestions set on MAX and it works perfectly...
even on the normal rom versions my hermes drops letters...
so no big deal for me
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Well if i turn off or limit autocomplete... that kinda defeats the purpose. (
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Trust me it will work ... am using
- suggest after entering 3 letters (instead of space)
- suggest 3 words
Works like a charme ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298593
This has already been covered but yea, it took care of my problem on my 8525 with XDAlive 2.0
pnt7 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298593
This has already been covered but yea, it took care of my problem on my 8525 with XDAlive 2.0
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since this issue was covered in that thread i am going to play housekeeper and lock this one... if anyone feels it should be unlocked you can pm me and plead your case..
After updating to WM6 (firstly xda 0.1) then to Vanilla I noticed that when typing on a keyboard I got eg. "tu" when typing "t" or "u"; the same situation with "gj" when typing "g" or "j". I also got the problem of getting wrong symbols (eg. "**" instead of 8). I've got 2 T-Mobile UK version (HERM300) devices, one updated tens of times and the other one oneuntouched. After checking the registry I can say that both are the same as far as know keyboard registry fixes are concerned.
Is it a hardware thing or something I could fix. I searched over the forum, but others had different keyboard issues with their devices.
you could try going into the input options and toggling the predictive text to not kick in till after 4 words have been typed or just disable it. this may be the problem, its set to try right away by default and I see all kinds of wierd errors when it is set like this.
or you could try to go on a vigirous finger diet and excersise routine with the hope that your fingers shrink in size.
or you could use a hip top, the hiptop 2 has the best keyboard IMHO though the herald/kaiser is very nice as well
Unfortunately turning off all the predictive text options doesn't help. I start thinking that this is some kind of hardware issue as everything in the registry is as it is supposed to be. I just wonder how it could happen as it was working flawlessly (even under WM6) and suddently started working weirdly.
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Unfortunately turning off all the predictive text options doesn't help. I start thinking that this is some kind of hardware issue as everything in the registry is as it is supposed to be. I just wonder how it could happen as it was working flawlessly (even under WM6) and suddently started working weirdly.
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I have not come across this problem, this might not work and I doubt it will! but try this keyboard fix cab file for the 8225, you can always remove it with remove programmes if it is a no go.
boz said:
I have not come across this problem, this might not work and I doubt it will! but try this keyboard fix cab file for the 8225, you can always remove it with remove programmes if it is a no go.
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I was experiencing the same problem and this cab file worked for me. Thanks. Just don't forget to power cycle the device once the cab is installed.
Does anyone have a problem with a slow lagging keyboard while typing text messages. I noticed it after I installed the Black 2.5 rom. I have installed the keyboard mapping fix but that did not help the lagging issue.
I been typing like crazy today on my 8525/2.5 with MSN Live Messenger. Seems very fast to me..
I had the same delay...Can't remember if disabling the word completion took care of it or installing the memory performance cab from JJ that took care of it. I'm banking on the memory performance cab though.
I have noticed this issue a little bit, but if I remember correctly Ive had the problem even before isntalling any of the roms, and it only happened for the first set of characters that I types (usually the first word).
Has anyone else noticed this with the standard wm5 roms?
I've experienced the same issue.
I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.
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I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.
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Are you talking about the pop up keyboard?
I think what the OP was taliking about is that when you first start typing with the pull out keyboard there is a slight lag, like with me, I'll start typing - it hesitates - and then it like catches up. Not only that but the screen even goes dim for a moment .
I don't remember if I had this issue before or not.
Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.
odie3;1250895 said:
Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.
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Oh well.
I'm not going to concern myself too much with it, because I'm hoping by tomorrow I'll be running 3.0
Similiar typing issue here on 8525
I've noticed the same typing issue using both Black 1.2 and Black 2.5 were it often lags or simply skips a letter (usually "h" after "t" leaving "te" instead of "the" or "s" after "i" leaving "I" instead of "is")
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the 8525 keyboard fix cab, but it does not help.
Two things I have noticed:
1.) The typing problem does not seem to appear until several days after I flash the ROM.
2.) It really only seems to affect the Messaging app. (When I type into PIE forms or Notes, the problem does not seem to exist)
Definitely did not have this problem in WM5, so I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0
this is a real problem. I have experienced it with all wm6 roms I have installed. I have a strong feeling its related to the suggested word list that comes up....but this is a rediculous problem for us to have to deal with and should be fixed. I also agree that its limited to the messaging app.
Ezra
yes the problem i was originally talking about is with the messaging app only. i have no problems in word, or IE. I have the memory performance cab installed but noticed it before that as well. does anyone see a difference with the suggestive words disabled?
Put 3.0 on Hold
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...clip...I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0
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I'll PM JJ and ask him to hold off on the release of 3.0 until he's sure we won't have this issue.
Just Kidding. .
I actually started a thread about this a while ago but titled it in reference to skipping keys because I type so fast with the thumb keyboard that the device cannot keep up and omits some of my key-presses. However, someone suggested something that I had tried with WM5 (but it didn't work then) but hadn't thought to do with WM6.
Go to Settings>Input>Word Completion(tab) and change the "Suggest after entering" setting to something such as 3 or more letters. I have mine set to 4 letters and have zero problems with skipping or slow typing unless in a third party program such a TomTom.
a little out of topic...
but after changing to black 2.5 my time zone seems to be weird....i had tried to set it to GMT+8 Singapore time....but after a while it will change to another country thats GMT+8 but when i change it back to GMT+8 Singapore time.....it will be one hour early.....
I have the slow keyboard problem too.. Its making me mad.. And the black2.5 rom seems to slow down a heck of allot after a week or so use.. Any ideas why would this be aswell?? I only have 4apps installed.. One on today screen and rest only when i use it..
a slow keyboard is one thing, but skipping letters is another. (This issue pertains to not only Black, but also Custel, LVSW, and Dutty)
The thing is, when i text message, i start typing immediately after the window pops up. But for some reason, it lags, and then when it catches up i notice that my first 3 words are so are all butchered cuz letters were dropped. I didn't experience this issue with my MDA Vario / 8125. The worst that would happen is the text would lag, but would eventually catch up to my typing. And it WOULD NOT drop any letters. With the new wm6 roms for hermes, im noticing lag and letter dropping. I've tried the suggestion of even turning off autocomplete, and setting 1 word, 2 words, 3 words, and 4 words. Still having the same issue. I opened a thread about it long ago, but it just got closed because they "supposedly" deemed it a fixe issue. Well its not!
To clarify: I'm not trying to bash any of the rom chefs' work, as i am very thankful for what they do. But it would be very nice to have this issue addressed and fixed.
Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....
@ **Milo**
Hi and thanks for the sugestion , i tried it and my slow typing issue has gone. As an experiment i switched the rate back to where it was (about one third of the way up the slider) and its still gone. It seems switching the slider up to max cleared whatever setting was causing the slow down.
Im going to leave the phone on standby for a while then try it again to see if this has any effect on it.
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Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....
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And it seems to have cured mine too. Thanks mate.
Hi. i seem to have a bug on the onscreen keyboard. basicaly, whenever i press a key no animation is applied as if pressing a real key on a keyboard ie see the specific key pressed down.
It doesnt seem to work no matter what screen or app i am running. However, it does operate fine when i do the keyboard tutorial?
anyone having issues with this?
edit: seems to work fine when i switch the keyboard into numeracy mode
Another edit: fixed the issue by changing the keyboard layout completeley via the settings and back to full qwerty .
Not really linked to your problem, but I noticed a strange behaviour when setting up Copilot on my Desire today. Basically no matter what i typed, it automatically retyped some letters back again. Trying backspace too added the last letter again and then subsequently deleted it. I wanted to type say [email protected] and it would type [email protected]@y... It reminded me of similar keyboard issues on the Nexus One. Thankfully I did not notice the same issue when i typed in landscape mode.
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Not really linked to your problem, but I noticed a strange behaviour when setting up Copilot on my Desire today. Basically no matter what i typed, it automatically retyped some letters back again. Trying backspace too added the last letter again and then subsequently deleted it. I wanted to type say [email protected] and it would type [email protected]@y... It reminded me of similar keyboard issues on the Nexus One. Thankfully I did not notice the same issue when i typed in landscape mode.
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I had exactly the same problem, didn't think of trying it in Landscape mode mind you, but it was only on the user name field and not the password field in CoPilot.
talking about the touchscreen, anyone so far has experienced the mis-registering of the touch? feedback will be very appreciated. am a former Nexus one user and that bug haunted me a lot..
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talking about the touchscreen, anyone so far has experienced the mis-registering of the touch? feedback will be very appreciated. am a former Nexus one user and that bug haunted me a lot..
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My screen is perfect. Absolutely love this phone. Very responsive, word prediction is sublime and I haven't had a single slowdown or crash. Check out my YouTube videos (misterleoni)
I've found myself back here on the forums after getting frustrated with the official Windows updates.
There's a really big glitch I've encountered that changes the volume from Normal to Vibrate or vice versa.
It took me years to finally realize why my phone was switching profiles without me changing it.
Whenever I start a new text message and type the letter 'A' too fast as the first letter of the message it changes to Normal/Vibrate. If I slowly start typing the message, the glitch is avoided.
Has anyone else encountered this bizarre problem? I'm still trying to figure out how this could even be possible! Any suggestions from the gurus?
This problem exists on ALL Roms I believe ... I have always had it.
Here is the explanation, as I see it:
The Texting program, in all honesty, sucks. Windows decided to create the TextBox before loading up the history of messages, which meant there was a huge lag. FURTHER: They didn't do these actions on separate threads, which means the lag would occur on one thread.
Now think of it this way: While a program can have different 'threads' to run on, the keyboard, while an input to the program, will get its own thread because it is a system device. So the Keyboard gets its own thread, therefore its own buffer.
What goes on, in the second it takes to load the text message history is this:
1) TextBox appears and is activated to user [and Keyboard]
2) History load starts on same thread as TextBox
3) User types "A"
4) "A" is sent to the foreground window, which is the TextBox
5) The TextBox takes a while to respond, to process the message, therefore the system assumes the key was held down for X seconds.
6) Realizing this is the Hard-coded "change-profile" shortcut, the system then sends a message to the Profile 'manager' (if one exists, but in theory let us say it does) to switch profiles.
7) The TextBox stops lagging since the history is loaded, and it registers that the 'A' key was lifted.
The whole issue has to do with timing and buffers ... all pretty stupid errors on Microsoft's part.
I had wanted to start making a replacement, but alas, I have no time
One day....maybe one day
Brilliant Cyclone! Thanks for the simplified/understandable response.
I didn't realize the quick button to switch profiles is the 'A' button. That's much more understandable.
I just updated my phone to 3v0, but then downdated to 1.22.531.6 because it 3v0 was too buggy.
It cleared all my text messages and I haven't had the A-glitch yet. I'm guessing clearing the text history is the only way to avoid the glitch.
I'm surprised I haven't heard other people talking about this problem. I Googled it, but couldn't find anything.
Very interesting...although, these kind of problems are expected when dealing with Microsoft.
I just had a thought...
How easy would it be to change the "Hard-coded "change-profile" shortcut" to a letter that is never used? Like 'Q'. Or completely remove the change-profile shortcut.
You guys are way over my head when it comes to working with the fundamentals of phones(the registry?) like this. I'd like to learn more, but I must also say....One day....maybe one day!
I don't honestly believe it is possible..."hard coded' means that they programmed it straight into the OS.
Now realize, this is only my theory, I can be 100% incorrect..
The OS can't have any changes made to it? I thought this was possible through something like "regedit" on PC's. Changes to the registry aren't changes to the OS?
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The OS can't have any changes made to it? I thought this was possible through something like "regedit" on PC's. Changes to the registry aren't changes to the OS?
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Things in the Registry aren't 'hardcoded' ... when I say 'hardcoded' I mean that when Microsoft employees was in their IDEs developing, they typed in a few lines of code dealing with the A-Key, and then compiled it. We cannot change that, especially since it is part of the ROM.