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PDA2K - niggly problems

On the whole I'm very pleased with my imate PDA2K, but I am wondering whether anyone else is experiencing the following problems
1) After the phone has been on for a few hours, sometimes you cannot send an SMS. Once you do a soft reset then text message sending is OK again.
2) I've had this twice now. I make a phone call and I get no dial tone. A soft-reset sorts this out again. This is after the phone has been on for a few hours again.
3) The machine seems generally sluggish in popping up the text box for text message received/message sent confirmations after the notification icon has appeared in the top line.
4) Wifi access can be flaky. My signal strength generally shows as poor and the range is a lot shorter than an IPAQ HX4700 I have also used. This connects everytime in every room of the house.
5) Does anyone find the yellow tinge to the screen annoying. The XDAII contrast is better although actual screen on PDA2K is better when you get the viewing angle spot-on.
I never saw these issues on my XDAII.
I'm using the latest ROM update (1.12.22), Radio (1.02.00) ExtROM (1.12.169).
I'm begginning to consider using a SPV C500 Bluetooh phone with an IPAQ HX4700 if I need GPRS internet - it has a beautiful screen - any comments.
I really want a "one-device fits all", but these little problems are making me re-consider.
Mike

i second everything you said
my PDa2K is the same
John

I don't have Pda2k but consider most of your problems related about first ROM and Radio Stack Version..All devices have some bugs
Then about the yellow screen,that is hardware related,I am sure it is made by another company then Xda2 screen.
Note: We all know XDA2 also had initially one type screen,then after some months they (HTC) have sell XDA2 with other type screen..

I find the tint of the yellow screen changes with screen angle and I find it quite annoying.
My bluetooth headset (jabra) that has worked fine on my XDAIII for the last year and my XDA1 (with dongle) before that keeps loosing it's connection with MDAIII - works fine for half an hour after a soft reset but then stops working again.

while i can live with most of the things you mentioned so far pretty well, i can't live with the fact, that mine turns on every time i receive a short message, or when someone calls me.. because turning on not only means showing me what's on the display (that'd be ideal) but it does also mean, releasing the key- and screenlock! so whenever i get a message from someone, i start tapping on my screen probably without knowing it (since it's in my pocket) and everything gets messed up, and if i'm unlucky i might even call someone or delete stuff...
is there any workorund for that? (i have postet this problem to the general discussion earlyer this day, but nobody seems to either care, share the problem or know a solution... )
other than that, i am rather happy with my investment ;-)
cheers
pascal

They used a yellowish screen for a reason, it is 'suppose' to be ALOT easier to view under direct sunlight compared to the Xda II which will be almost unviewable under sunlight. But i personally rather have the white bright screen of xda II, who looks at their pda under direct sunlight at it anyways u can just use ur head to block the sunlight.

Letters/keys skipped when typing in WM6 (ONLY in the messaging application)

When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...

pinhead said:
When I am typing in the messaging application, I find that many of my key presses are ignored, seeming as though I am not able to spell or use proper punctiation, even though I have actually tapped the correct keys.
My messages might look like the following:
"Thaks fo your message. I was nt able to take the call at th time buI will be avaiable after 6pm. Thanks again!"
This is really annoying. It ONLY happens in the messaging application. I can type an entire document in Word without a single problem but I correct numerous mistakes in emails and text messages in order to avoid looking like a moron to recipients of my messages.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem? I am using the Black Edition ROM right now and thought that this version fixed the problem. I also Experienced it with the LVSW versions and the other before that. I did not experience it in WM5 at all...
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I have the exact error with all the WM6 roms, very very frustrating

I too sometimes get this problem, normally at the start of a text if I start typing quickly. it doesn't happen all the time tho only occasionally. using the lvsw rom at the moment but also had it with the SA WM5 rom

I've got this problem too, but in WM5.

same here on WMXL 0.2

I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?

pinhead said:
I have noticed this on other WM5 devices but never on the Hermes until now. Is there something that changed in the messaging application that can be changed back to the way it was in WM5...hopefully via a registry edit?
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I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.

I agree with nmonger, I have alleviated the problem by setting the autocomplete to only suggest after 3 letters (it was set to "a space" before). Also I have made it only suggest 2 words (it was set to 4).

I had this from day 1, it`s just not designed to work that fast...
i hope it`s a driver problem and not keyboard hardware problem.

nmonger said:
I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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So far this seems to have solved my problem. Thanks!

I knew it had something to do with the word completion. I set it to suggest 1 word but it keeps suggesting four. I just changed it to after 3 letters and solved my problem. Thank you for pointing that out. Now i don't look drunk when messaging at 11am!

Thank the man above someone else is having this issue as well....trying the word completion trick and seeing what happens.

worked for me - great solutions thanks

BINGO! an obvious solution in hindsight... thanks

cheers for that guys, it was one of those things that had bugged me for a while but not enough for me to look for a fix untill someone else mentioned it.

nmonger said:
I had this problem but it went away after I selected the option to have word completion only select words after typing six letters. If you have it set to do it after pressing the space bar it seems to cause a delay in typing the text after a key press.
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Worked for me

I was just thinking about how often I had this issue today. I was SURE I was pressing all the keys. I tried turning word completion off and that didn't seem to change anything (strange). I'll give changing it to 6 a try, that makes sense.

I have noticed this problem on the Dash, Blackjack, Universal, and a few other Windows Mobile devices...all WM 5 and newer. This is the first time I have seen a solution. I don't think this worked on any of those devices and that is why I posted. I thought there was going to be a more complicated fix on this phone too!
What really stuns me is the lack of complaining about the skipping issue on other devices, such as those that I mentioned, as I am sure I am not the only one who sees this happening on multiple devices.

I thought it was all down to me being lazy, a bad speller and having thumbs too big for the small keyboard.
Trying the solution and all seems well so far.

thanks a lot, it's working

Persisting problem with keyboard.

After updating to WM6 (firstly xda 0.1) then to Vanilla I noticed that when typing on a keyboard I got eg. "tu" when typing "t" or "u"; the same situation with "gj" when typing "g" or "j". I also got the problem of getting wrong symbols (eg. "**" instead of 8). I've got 2 T-Mobile UK version (HERM300) devices, one updated tens of times and the other one oneuntouched. After checking the registry I can say that both are the same as far as know keyboard registry fixes are concerned.
Is it a hardware thing or something I could fix. I searched over the forum, but others had different keyboard issues with their devices.

you could try going into the input options and toggling the predictive text to not kick in till after 4 words have been typed or just disable it. this may be the problem, its set to try right away by default and I see all kinds of wierd errors when it is set like this.
or you could try to go on a vigirous finger diet and excersise routine with the hope that your fingers shrink in size.
or you could use a hip top, the hiptop 2 has the best keyboard IMHO though the herald/kaiser is very nice as well

Unfortunately turning off all the predictive text options doesn't help. I start thinking that this is some kind of hardware issue as everything in the registry is as it is supposed to be. I just wonder how it could happen as it was working flawlessly (even under WM6) and suddently started working weirdly.

mean-machine said:
Unfortunately turning off all the predictive text options doesn't help. I start thinking that this is some kind of hardware issue as everything in the registry is as it is supposed to be. I just wonder how it could happen as it was working flawlessly (even under WM6) and suddently started working weirdly.
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I have not come across this problem, this might not work and I doubt it will! but try this keyboard fix cab file for the 8225, you can always remove it with remove programmes if it is a no go.

boz said:
I have not come across this problem, this might not work and I doubt it will! but try this keyboard fix cab file for the 8225, you can always remove it with remove programmes if it is a no go.
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I was experiencing the same problem and this cab file worked for me. Thanks. Just don't forget to power cycle the device once the cab is installed.

Does WM6 fix the keyboard skipping issue when typing quickly?

On every Dash I have ever typed on I have noticed an extremely annoying problem. When I type at a reasonable speed it looks as though I am missing keys repeatedly. Sentences will look like the following:
Srry tohave not been abe to ake your call. Iws busy wih a clint.
Yes, it is sometimes that bad. Is this something that will continue with WM6 or has it been fixed? I know for certain that it is NOT my inability to type...I hit every single key yet I don't see half of those letters actually show up!?

I also have the same problem that you mention, and I dont know how to fix it.

Yeah, I have the same problem if I type too fast. I think its more of a hardware limitation then a software one.

WM6 FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! i had the same issue, Love texting now. much more efficient! =)

I have noticed that same issue on my Hermes (8525) since upgrading to some of the Beta WM6 ROMs. What's interesting is that I did not this issue in WM5 (so pretty much the opposite of your experience with the Dash).
Hopefully all the final WM6 ROMs fix this issue.

Were are you guys getting the WM6 ROM, and were are we supposed to download it from tomorrow when it comes out....?

Slow typing keyboard Black 2.5

Does anyone have a problem with a slow lagging keyboard while typing text messages. I noticed it after I installed the Black 2.5 rom. I have installed the keyboard mapping fix but that did not help the lagging issue.

I been typing like crazy today on my 8525/2.5 with MSN Live Messenger. Seems very fast to me..

I had the same delay...Can't remember if disabling the word completion took care of it or installing the memory performance cab from JJ that took care of it. I'm banking on the memory performance cab though.

I have noticed this issue a little bit, but if I remember correctly Ive had the problem even before isntalling any of the roms, and it only happened for the first set of characters that I types (usually the first word).
Has anyone else noticed this with the standard wm5 roms?

I've experienced the same issue.

I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.

odie3 said:
I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.
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Are you talking about the pop up keyboard?
I think what the OP was taliking about is that when you first start typing with the pull out keyboard there is a slight lag, like with me, I'll start typing - it hesitates - and then it like catches up. Not only that but the screen even goes dim for a moment .
I don't remember if I had this issue before or not.

Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.

odie3;1250895 said:
Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.
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Oh well.
I'm not going to concern myself too much with it, because I'm hoping by tomorrow I'll be running 3.0

Similiar typing issue here on 8525
I've noticed the same typing issue using both Black 1.2 and Black 2.5 were it often lags or simply skips a letter (usually "h" after "t" leaving "te" instead of "the" or "s" after "i" leaving "I" instead of "is")
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the 8525 keyboard fix cab, but it does not help.
Two things I have noticed:
1.) The typing problem does not seem to appear until several days after I flash the ROM.
2.) It really only seems to affect the Messaging app. (When I type into PIE forms or Notes, the problem does not seem to exist)
Definitely did not have this problem in WM5, so I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0

this is a real problem. I have experienced it with all wm6 roms I have installed. I have a strong feeling its related to the suggested word list that comes up....but this is a rediculous problem for us to have to deal with and should be fixed. I also agree that its limited to the messaging app.
Ezra

yes the problem i was originally talking about is with the messaging app only. i have no problems in word, or IE. I have the memory performance cab installed but noticed it before that as well. does anyone see a difference with the suggestive words disabled?

Put 3.0 on Hold
njmarchetti said:
...clip...I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0
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I'll PM JJ and ask him to hold off on the release of 3.0 until he's sure we won't have this issue.
Just Kidding. .

I actually started a thread about this a while ago but titled it in reference to skipping keys because I type so fast with the thumb keyboard that the device cannot keep up and omits some of my key-presses. However, someone suggested something that I had tried with WM5 (but it didn't work then) but hadn't thought to do with WM6.
Go to Settings>Input>Word Completion(tab) and change the "Suggest after entering" setting to something such as 3 or more letters. I have mine set to 4 letters and have zero problems with skipping or slow typing unless in a third party program such a TomTom.

a little out of topic...
but after changing to black 2.5 my time zone seems to be weird....i had tried to set it to GMT+8 Singapore time....but after a while it will change to another country thats GMT+8 but when i change it back to GMT+8 Singapore time.....it will be one hour early.....

I have the slow keyboard problem too.. Its making me mad.. And the black2.5 rom seems to slow down a heck of allot after a week or so use.. Any ideas why would this be aswell?? I only have 4apps installed.. One on today screen and rest only when i use it..

a slow keyboard is one thing, but skipping letters is another. (This issue pertains to not only Black, but also Custel, LVSW, and Dutty)
The thing is, when i text message, i start typing immediately after the window pops up. But for some reason, it lags, and then when it catches up i notice that my first 3 words are so are all butchered cuz letters were dropped. I didn't experience this issue with my MDA Vario / 8125. The worst that would happen is the text would lag, but would eventually catch up to my typing. And it WOULD NOT drop any letters. With the new wm6 roms for hermes, im noticing lag and letter dropping. I've tried the suggestion of even turning off autocomplete, and setting 1 word, 2 words, 3 words, and 4 words. Still having the same issue. I opened a thread about it long ago, but it just got closed because they "supposedly" deemed it a fixe issue. Well its not!
To clarify: I'm not trying to bash any of the rom chefs' work, as i am very thankful for what they do. But it would be very nice to have this issue addressed and fixed.

Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....

@ **Milo**
Hi and thanks for the sugestion , i tried it and my slow typing issue has gone. As an experiment i switched the rate back to where it was (about one third of the way up the slider) and its still gone. It seems switching the slider up to max cleared whatever setting was causing the slow down.
Im going to leave the phone on standby for a while then try it again to see if this has any effect on it.

*MILO* said:
Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....
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And it seems to have cured mine too. Thanks mate.