All,
Upgraded my unbranded UK TP2 to WM6.5 yesterday and just re-installed all the apps; here's some initial impressions.
It IS worth doing the hard reset to do the upgrade. First off, you're going to have a nice clean install which is always a good thing; secondly WM6.5 itself is more evolution than revolution; small graphical tweaks, things are 'easier' to stab at with your fingers (the screen seems more forgiving), and text/menu options/e-mails etc are spaced out more to make using the device easier on the run.
Some changes/good things/quirks in WM6.5:
Owner information option is gone from the "settings" menu. Simply activate on the Today Screen, click where it says "Touch here to enter owner information" and you're in the same place. Don't bother messing with a nice clean install with that .cab file doing the rounds on here when you just don't have to.
The honeycomb menu is a personal choice, but it's flexible and clean looking enough to make it easy to navigate around. I've gone from using SPB Menu 2 (as version 3 just did NOT integrate with TF3D and the phone contacts (soft key) option) back to just using the standard WM6.5 menu and Today Screen.
WM6.5 introduces new options to reject calls with a text message - most useful.
WM6.5 introduces a new option to automatically activate the pen notes application when the stylus is removed from the holster during a call. The main reason to remove the stylus is to scribble a phone number down, so this option is again, most welcome.
VOICE DIALLING OVER BLUETOOTH WORKS AGAIN! The feature I missed the most on my TP2 works again. I installed MS Voice Dialler 1.6UK version and with my Jawbone BT headset I'm back to normal operation.
Re-organising the main honeycomb menu is a little painful; rather than a nice "hold and drag" method, you can only "Move To Top" or "Move Down". Putting things into folders and using File Explorer is the order of the day.
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
FM Radio application is installed as a default. Again, no need for 3rd party hacks or apps.
WiFi reception and throughput speed appears to have been boosted. I certainly get a better reception in my home, in the same locations I used to get slow/juttery video streaming in.
Battery increments - not seen it in 1% as yet, anyone else confirm if it's 1 or 10% increments?
No major application incompatibility problems that I can see as yet.
Run the Rhodium Advanced Config app over the device to ensure fast GPS, A-GPS and the like is tweaked to your convenience and you'll find you can get pretty much everything you want done with a standard configuration, with your normal apps installed on it, rather than hacking and tweaking. As a result the system takes a much smaller memory footprint and everything seems to hang together more smoothly and without slowing the system down.
Hope this helps clear some things up for your normal/power users looking to update their devices. All-in-all I'm really happy with the WM6.5 update. It almost feels like the TP2 was made in the first place for WM6.5 and its just come to life with it, almost as if WM6.1 was a (temporary) necessary retrograde step that HTC didn't want to do...
Thanks and be good to see other people's feedback on the update.
Adam.
Thx for the update.
Very glad to hear that voice dialing over BT is working again and that there is a slide to lock and FM Radio (without having to install battery killing 3th party apps).
Looks very promising.
Hope I can install this soon and add some comments. Dutch version however not yet available.
The quick drop down menu from the start button is gone in 6.5/ Is there a decent cab to get it back? I've tried some previously that did not work. One thing I would miss with 6.5. Yeah, I know a petty thing to some, important to me.
I dislike BT so that feature means nothing, don't care for titanium or tf3d, so ms 3.5 is my prefered ui. My tp2 is one of the most finger friendly phones I've had yet even while running 6.1 . I know it always seems to make sense to upgrade to the latest and greatest, but the latest isn't neccessarily the greatest.
Having tried several diff cooked 6.5's on my old tp I may sit this one out for awhile. If you've neve tried 6.5 then by all means one should give it a try. Judge for yourself.
Bluetooth
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
adamchap said:
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
Adam.
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Maybe I'm missing something. It seems that the slide to unlock doesn't lock the hardware buttons. If the phone is in a case or a pocket and a call comes in, it's possible to accidentally press the hardware accept or hang up button. That's a problem that only seems solvable using 3rd party apps.
I'm very satisfied with this 6.5 rom release. It includes basically everything I wanted. The only thing is the Manila 6.5 with the animated today menu that changes as the weather from your localization changes.
even though this official release of winMo 6.5 looks great (installed the french one on an unbranded tp2) :
-i think the colored tf3d look is giving the rhodium a less serious image (too much green in it
-in general, the OS seem to be quite heavy for the device
-there's an obvious problem with the tf3d today clock (which is always giving me exactly 1hour & 2minutes earlier for 2seconds everytime i press the "no" button)
-also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
and seriously guys, i still don't get why they didn't provide tp2 users with manila 2.5, it makes absolutelly no "SENSE"
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
true2you said:
also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
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agreed, it's a bit annoying, it also deactiveates the wi-fi when you soft reset the device... I'm sure there will be a tweak for it soon!
malumbreras said:
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
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s2u2 still works but the new 'lock' that this version of Windows Mobile is very similar...
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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For the Owner info - see this topic (link in first page):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571376
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I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds.
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
t69broken said:
This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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but the new clocks still flips as well......
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
true2you said:
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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I think it actually has something to do with the my location thing, but since I can't get that to work properly most of it is just an annoyance. Lol
E-mail to HTC (bug that I found in Manila 2.1 in the WM 6.1 that still maintains in WM 6.5):
Good Morning
I've been using the Windows Mobile 6.1 for a while and found a bug that I was expecting to be solved in the 6.5 release but unfortunately no.
When I choose in the weather tab the City of Lisbon, Portugal and update the forecast it corrects me the system time to GMT CASABLANCA instead of using the correct GMT LONDON, DUBLIN.
The Portuguese Time includes changes to the Winter Time and Summer Time, like in UK. To correct that I need to use always as my default city London, not taking use of the function from the new Manila: "My Location".
Can that be corrected in a next release?
Best Regards
Márcio Teixeira
apv245l said:
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
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Nope, it's still the WidComm BT Stack.
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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Quick and easy - don't bother downloading and installing cabs, this is easier!
Go to Settings -> Today and make sure that in the "Items" tab, the option for "Owner Info" is ticked.
Now go to your today screen. There will be the owner information line - and if you've entered nothing, it'll say "Tap to enter info..." just tap there and enter the info in the control panel that appears.
If you then don't want Owner Info on your today screen (but just wanted to enter a username for app registration etc), then go back into Settings -> Today and untick the Owner Info option.
Thx,
Adam.
Related
I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
Tolkien said:
I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Put either the HTC or DOPOD rom on it, the O2 one is crap.
Tolkien said:
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297793
for a start overclock it and you will a great difference in speed
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
Longhair said:
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
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I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
Download "Audacity" and it comes with a free sd card speed test.
See it it's the speed of the sd card.
If it is then read through the "corrupt card" thread >> you will see the recommendation -- set the power turnoff time to say 2 minutes and never use the on/off switch.
You will need a soft reset in between to reset the speed of the card.
kennyidaho said:
I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
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Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
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Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
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I reckon the reasoning is that if people minimize applications (which they will do to avoid launch lag) and forget to close applications (which they will do ) the device will definitely crash.
For an insight into WM5 memory management read this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/08/16/702746.aspx
Incidentally, the O2 Custom Today plugin included with the O2 UK Orbit rom allows you to actually close an application.
in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
Thank you
Thanks so much to everyone who has responded to my (desparate sounding) post.
I use the O2 button to close applications routinely. I don't leave them open because I know this slows things down and (presumably) increases battery usage. I don't think that is the cause of the problem.
I've already been through the routine with the SD card. I don't think that it the problem either.
The only suggestion here I haven't tried is overclocking it. How do I do it? Does it invalidate my warranty?
amino said:
in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
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Same as mine. It's pretty good.
yup, it will invalidate the warranty so just hope you can take it off before it goes back if it has to, I work for o2, the people in the shop wont know that youve overclocked it and I wouldnt tell them, the repairers on the other hand might spot it so be careful
tou can get the overclocking program here: http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
theres full instructions, read before you start tweaking it on your own. I have mine overclocked to 260mhz and I noticed the difference immediatley, it reverts back to 201mhz in sleep mode and jumps to 260 when I power it up.
hth
Do you have a skin? I downloaded a nice AppleMac style skin and everything slowed down - took me 2 days to realise the cause.
Also, the o2 icon does not always close programs. Use it then go to Settings/System/Memory , have a look in the Running Programs tab and you sometimes see something still in there that should have closed with the o2 icon!!
Michael
Not sure if this is a design function but everytime I turn the device off it returns to Today's screen.
Actually even when I toggle to screen in WMP and turn the screen back on the PPC throws me back to Today.
I initially thought it was a problem with my ROM (LSG then Custel 1.3) but after flashing to VP3G 3.0 on my 8525 (I have both an 8525 and TyTN) and without anything else installed it does that.
Any ideas if this can be changed? I'd like to open app to stay visible.
Thanks in advance for the help.
I really don't have this problem on my ROM, see signature. I have especially tested it for you to be sure.....
Perhaps flashing 1 device to a different ROM. Can you see it yourself.
that's what i figured so I had my 8525 that was running WM5.
I HardSPL, SuperCID it then flashed it with VP3G.
There is nothing else on the phone but my exchange and pop account setup, owner info and basic stuff like this.
I also have the clock shown on every apps and the extended rom unlock/mounted (though it does it with or w/o).
My TyTN is running Custel 1.3.
I just can't think what could be causing the device to always minimize open apps when the phone is turned off (standby).
It seems that some plugins force a redraw of the today screen when coming out of stb. Nothing much to do but turn off the offending plugin.
Go to settings/today and on tab for objects remove the flag for timeout. Problem gone.
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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This is a really annoying "feature" of WM6. So far no answer in the Microsoft forums regarding this. Would be glad if i could return to exactly the screen where i switched off the device or in which the timeout forced it to suspend.
If it is not possible to fix this with a registry hacking, would it be possible to develop a small helper application which saves which application was open before the atual suspend takes place and upon a wakeup reads this information and switches to the last active window ? The app itself is still active, isn't it ?
Regards,
Secuspec
Wait. So what exactly happens? I also used vp3G 3.0 and let's say I have Resco File Explorer open and my phone sits idle for 1 minute and goes into standby mode.. when I press the power button to make the screen turn on again, it still shows Resco File Explorer for me.. Is the bug causing it to go back to the today screen every time the phone goes into standby mode?
if a program is left open when the device is turned off (or screen "muted") the program will be minimized when you turn the Pocket PC back on (you're kicked back to Today).
Glad I'm not the only once having issues. Thought it may be a design (flaw) but IMO it's a crappy one. Wish someone can find a fix.
interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
ericc - that's exactly the problem. Are you sure you're really going to "sleep", and you aren't just seeing your backlight turn off? (you should have to hit the power button to wake it back up).
Especially annoying when driving with navigation software - I want to just turn it on and see what I saw before it went to sleep.
MikeC - that's a very interesting point. I have exchange push email going, and my system administrator pushes restrictions onto my phone... I use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to change the ridiculous 5-minute lockout to something more reasonable.... perhaps either the device lock or Zenyee is the culprit.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
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Actually not really... my Windows workstation locks I expect to see the program I had maximized still on screen not all down in the toolbar minimized. IMO that doesn't make much sense (and even if it did they should have an option to select the default behaviour).
HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Works fine on my Tytn with WM6 official Swedish. I don't have a device lock enabled btw.
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
samw52000 said:
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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Thanks for the hint samw52000! That perfectly worked for me And it also sped up a lot of programs directly after wake up -what makes perfectly sense since no other program is interfering anymore.
Long time after last reply, but still no solution.
I notice if time in suspend mode is longer that programmed in settings/Lock/Prompt if device unused for... (if you have to tap your password) then screen is same as before suspend.
Hey people,
I downloaded Vito Winterface v1.2 and really like it..
However, it seems that I have to run Winterface and Touch Flo 3D simultaneously and cannot use the Winterface as the default UI.
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
Thanks.
BTW - you guys are great!
there may be much more elegant technical solutions or workarounds here but...
with Yota Contacts App I make and receive phone calls with disabled TF3D
dont know, but with TF3D there must be an internal phone app, which with chance may be startet seperately? Then you dont have to install a third party phone app...
I can make phonecalls just fine when I disable TF3D... I do not believe the phone-function is part of TF3D, or vice versa (could be wrong though, but it seems unlogical to me).
RustyJoe said:
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
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I've given V1.2 a go. A very close mimic of iPhone's desktop I must say, including the way we could move the icons around, and the little dots at the bottom indicating the number of pages and the currect page.
I have unticked TF3D on the today item screen, and it is still possible to make calls. That's not a problem for me.
I do have a few questions to anyone more familiar with winterface than I am.
1) The winterface unread mail counter does not get reduced as and when mails are read. I even tried ending and restarting winterface but the counter stays undated. After some time, however, with what seems to be an scheduled update within winterface, the counter was corrected. Is there a way to make this update instant?
2) I find the process of adding appllication to the desired page a little challenging. The added application always go the first page, and we then have to drag it to the desired page. Would be nice to be able to directly add to the desired page. Anyone knows of a way to do this directly?
3) I find the navigation from page to page rather jerky. It is far from the smoothness of iPhone or iPod. Any remedy for this?
4) The gesture for bringing up winterface does not seem to work predictably. Sometimes it works, sometime I kept drawing the reverse V but nothing happens. Is there a trick on how we should draw it?
5) There is a facility to add "Favourite". Anyone know what this is? Is it internet explorer favourite? OR favourite contact records? How do we add the entries? I just see a blank screen and back arrow, but don't see anyting there. Is that taking the using Vito Fun Contact Favourites? Anyone using Fun contact and Winterface who can tell us?
Edit: Found the answer. It takes the input from \windows\favorites, and let us choose from there, which of the entries we want to convert into an icon to be launched from winterface. The concept is nice, but it uses Pocket IE rather than Opera. What a pity.
6) I noticed that winterface never use the last two icon slots at the bottom right. Anyone knows why and if there is a way to fill these two spaces up?
Edit: Now I know the reason. When I turn it into landscape, the number of icons would exactly fill up the screen.
RustyJoe said:
Hey people,
I downloaded Vito Winterface v1.2 and really like it..
However, it seems that I have to run Winterface and Touch Flo 3D simultaneously and cannot use the Winterface as the default UI.
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
Thanks.
BTW - you guys are great!
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You don't need TF3D ticked to make phone calls. If you press your phone hardware button it should take you directly to the dial pad were you can start punching in names or numbers and your contact should show up.
I personally don't like the default contact app so I've downloaded Inesoft Phone 4. I love the way this program transforms the call history, dialer, Caller ID skin, favorites, and contacts!
Winterface draining battery?
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?
igloo said:
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?
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are you using 1.2 ? aparently that fixes power drain problems that earlier versions had
I also read somewhere that bluetooth notification could cause a drain too
Gary
igloo said:
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?
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Lol! I couldn't go 1 hour without using my HD let alone 14 hours!
Pandemoniumone said:
Lol! I couldn't go 1 hour without using my HD let alone 14 hours!
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It happens that I am at work where I use another communications infrastructure on the one hand and on the other hand I wanted to have a real comparision between the battery usage of TF3D and Winterface.
I agree with you on after hours of at leisure times 200% ...
garyjmobey said:
are you using 1.2 ? aparently that fixes power drain problems that earlier versions had
I also read somewhere that bluetooth notification could cause a drain too
Gary
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Yes, I have installed the 1.2 version; that's what the support asked first as well. But they have not provided any solution until now. I am waiting for a new release...
Bluetooth notification: this is something which should not be Winterface specific. I mean, with TF3D I should have the same drain of battery with that turned on?
Thanks for your comments...
Im useing Winterface 1.2.
Have a few problems too.
I cant place any icon on the two down leftmost positions. I can only have 18 icons
at each page in portrait mode. Strange isnt it? Looks pretty bad too.
I also think it runns slow on my touch HD.
Like it only runs in 10 FPS.
Anything anybody else noticed?
RustyJoe said:
Hey people,
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
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You don't need TF3D to make phone calls in HD. Just press the phone hardware button and there ya go.
Hi All,
Using official htc sea wm 6.5
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Anyone encountered this so called memory leak before??
Try this:
Lock screen by going Start (honeycomb) then lock
I noticed if i lock the screen memory uses up ALOT whole faster... within half a day it hits to 78% used... When incoming calls, screen does not show, but phone vibrates, i press the answer and phone picks up ok... other functions like sms and emails works ok, but alot slower too.
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I'm also using a mp3 ringtone though.. not such if this caused it, i have actually shorten and compressed the file already, was 7mb, drop to 3mb to 1.8mb now to 1mb...
I noticed when calls comes in, the screen does not lag that much (earlier issue does not happen in this assumption)...
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Camera application if activated in my pocket (Mis-press, i current assume so..) for unknown amount of time, i notice it and close it.. applications fail to launch properly...
Bottom menus (the phone(left), camera(right) on home screen etc) all dont work anymore.. it jus does not display out properly..
Top menus (close button etc) also does not display properly.. say i press start button (top right on home screen), the top menus bar changes to light blue, but honeycomb on main windows does not come out. No close button on top right either, but i can still close it (looks like not rendered properly of sorts)
TouchFlo3d works still though... i can rotate around phone, contact etc etc
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Memory uses up alot faster... after i soft reset the phone.. memory hovers at 50%, within an hour will go up to 61% odd.. but stabilizes... phone can be used ok..
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There are occasional random crashing of god knows what.. sometimes during sms i notice theres a popup of errors in some service of sorts... notice happens during sending sms mostly...
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Screen auto changes between landscape and portrait mode, sometimes it auto recovers, else, i need to slide out keyboard for awhile, wait for it to stablise, then close keyboard. Not sure if this is the result of taking out from the lather pouch??
Anyone noticed or encountered all these before?? HELP!! ; ;
Program installed:
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Google Maps (Update)
Batti
Carmin Mobile XT
Windows Live (Update)
NoPushInternet
MarketPlace
Youtube (Update)
WorldMate Live Installer
WorldMate Live
SKTools
MySoftReset
All programs have been there more or less for a few months already... The programs indicated with (update) means i updated further from default.
Is this a software thingy probably that a hard reset could solve it, or this is more like a thingy that needs to go into service center??
1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
ohyeahar said:
1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
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Are u using any mp3 ringtone? Does it have any issues if we use a big mp3 as ringtone??
Noticed if i use a big file, when calls/sms comes in, phone will "lag" and vibrate with no display of incoming call...if you press call(pickup) button, it ok ok..
chuachongchee said:
Are u using any mp3 ringtone? Does it have any issues if we use a big mp3 as ringtone??
Noticed if i use a big file, when calls/sms comes in, phone will "lag" and vibrate with no display of incoming call...if you press call(pickup) button, it ok ok..
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I use a 1MB mp3 file. Works fine for me. But I can see that it makes sense for there to be a lag if a large file was used. Lesson here is: try to use small sound files for performance!
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1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
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one thing..
for issue 3, its happening at random.. happened maybe a total of 3 times... i do not actually see a pattern as or yet..
for issue 5, i get this Microsoft error that says some process has crashed and need ask if i want to send the report to microsoft or not.. dont think this is related to carrier..
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Having trouble keeping the program focusing, so does not work yet.
It's a basic program which makes sure the display doesn't timeout while TomTom is running. Devices such as the HTC Maple and the HTC Excalibur doesn't support this function natively.
I have only tested it on my HTC Maple and it works fine. The default path to TomTom is \Storage Card\Program Files\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe
It comes with two programs, one is for launching TomTom and the other one is to change the default path. I suggest copying the files into your TomTom folder, but it doesn't matter. Remember to create a shortcut to the launcher and add it to your startmenu for easy access.
It could work on the HTC Excalibur but I haven't tested yet, so If someone could test and reply to this thread, that would be great.
Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
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Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
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I think the timeout being referred to is when you have a PIN setup? I am going to download and try on Diamond - will post result.
Can it be used for Garmin as well?
I don't know about Tom Tom but I have the same issue with Garmin - could you modify this app so that it will so the same for Garmin? WOuld be greatly appreciated
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I think the timeout being referred to is when you have a PIN setup? I am going to download and try on Diamond - will post result.
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What pin setup??
onesolo said:
Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
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Your right, I've used the HTC Universal and that work fine for TomTom. But with phones such as the HTC Excalibur and now my phone the HTC Maple, the TomTom times out. So the problem probably vary with different phones and maybe even different TomTom version.
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I don't know about Tom Tom but I have the same issue with Garmin - could you modify this app so that it will so the same for Garmin? WOuld be greatly appreciated
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Have you tried using this program with Garmin as well? Even though it says its for tomtom it could be used for other programs.
If it doesn't work its probably because your device has a different pvDevice name than my HTC Maple. The pvDevice name is needed to access the power functions on the phone (Mine is BKL1: ). What is your device name? I could check the pvDevice name and update the program to work with your phone and my phone
Same issue with Garmin
Have you tried using this program with Garmin as well? Even though it says its for tomtom it could be used for other programs.
If it doesn't work its probably because your device has a different pvDevice name than my HTC Maple. The pvDevice name is needed to access the power functions on the phone (Mine is BKL1: ). What is your device name? I could check the pvDevice name and update the program to work with your phone and my phone [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the prompt reply. I am currently using my old iMate JasJam (runs wm6.1) as the GPS chip on my HD2 died. It is - hopefully - being repaired as we speak. However, as I am off to the Czech Republic in a week for a holiday I may have to use it instead. Nothing worse than having to restart the phone every 5 min as you are walking around trying to see the sights.
Don't know what "pvDevice name" is or where to find it. Under Device settings in wm6.1 it says my model no is Herm100 and Platform is PocketPC using CRCs rom version r13.5 but I'm guessing that's not what you are referring to.
I will try just installing it and see what happens. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this app would be brilliant.
Edit: 1: Just edited the "Save TomTom.exe path" file to point the Tom Tom Navigator launcher to Garmin instead. This has worked to launch Garmin instead of Tom Tom but it still cuts out after a few minutes. I also have S2U2 running so I will add Garmin to the Exceptional Exe list on that and see if that helps.
Edit: 2: Still turned itself even after adding to S2U2 Exceptional Exe's!
Ross202 said:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I am currently using my old iMate JasJam (runs wm6.1) as the GPS chip on my HD2 died. It is - hopefully - being repaired as we speak. However, as I am off to the Czech Republic in a week for a holiday I may have to use it instead. Nothing worse than having to restart the phone every 5 min as you are walking around trying to see the sights.
Don't know what "pvDevice name" is or where to find it. Under Device settings in wm6.1 it says my model no is Herm100 and Platform is PocketPC using CRCs rom version r13.5 but I'm guessing that's not what you are referring to.
I will try just installing it and see what happens. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this app would be brilliant.
Edit: 1: Just edited the "Save TomTom.exe path" file to point the Tom Tom Navigator launcher to Garmin instead. This has worked to launch Garmin instead of Tom Tom but it still cuts out after a few minutes. I also have S2U2 running so I will add Garmin to the Exceptional Exe list on that and see if that helps.
Edit: 2: Still turned itself even after adding to S2U2 Exceptional Exe's!
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Im really sorry. I just did a full test today and It seems even I can't get it working . The screen stays on but it loses focus after a while. I'll start working on it now!
When you say "cuts out after a few minutes" is that the display turning off? Or just Garmin losing focus?
Nothing to apologise for - just to have someone develop such an app and make it available for free is a privilege - wish I had the knowledge and skills to do it.
To answer your question, the screen turns off - I have to press the screen-on button at the side of the jasjam, then navigate to the Garmin program launch icon and press it. The program comes back up to where it left off so I guess it must still be running in the background. Of course, when I am on external power this is not a problem - it keeps running. OK in the car but not much good when walking around.
I have noticed that in System/Backlight settings the screen is set to turn off after 5min when on Battery Power so I have unchecked this option, ie screen shouldn't ever turn off. This seems to be working; however, when Garmin is turned off I then have to remember to reset the backlight-off timeout otherwise I'll quickly have a flat battery.
Nowhere near as elegant as your app promises to be.
Have had Garmin running for past 10 min while I have been typing/composing this reply and it hasn't dropped out ..... yet.
What do you mean by "losing focus"
Further to above, I have had Garmin running non-stop since the above post - 30 min - so unchecking the "turn off screen backlight" seems to have done the trick. Now I just have to go through the nausea of manually checking it again in he system properties.
Thanks for your assistance.
What do you mean by "losing focus"
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Its just like your desktop, when you are doing something in a window, be it typing, mouse clicking etc, you are focused to that window. But as soon as you click another window your focus changes to that window. So whats happening with this program is its focused on TomTom for around 30s but then it is losing focus to something in the background. Nothing visually happens on the screen, but as soon as I press a key it switches to the background.
It sounds like even the backlight doesn't stay on for you...
Hopefully I can figure this problem out by soon, when I do, ill post
For your info, I have two settings that seem to be relevant both related to Battery Power:
1. Settings>System>backlight>battery power> uncheck "turnoff backlight if device not used for ..."
2. Settings>System>power>advanced> on battery power> uncheck "turnoff device if device not used for ..."
When the Garmin first turned itself off I noted that "1" was checked and set to 5 minutes and "2" was checked and set to 2 minutes. 2 minutes seemed to be the time it took before the phone/screen turned itself off. Once I unchecked "1" the setting @ "2" was irrelevant.
Re loss of focus - no, the screen went blank. When I pressed the power on button for the screen the "today" screen came back up. I then pressed the program launcher>Garmin and Garmin resumed where it had left off.
Hope this helps. Regards Ross
Just a heads up.
You can just download a LightJacker from this address:
http://w1.ozone.mine.nu/default.asp?c=index_lj Looks like it does what people want and is easy to use.