I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
Tolkien said:
I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Put either the HTC or DOPOD rom on it, the O2 one is crap.
Tolkien said:
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297793
for a start overclock it and you will a great difference in speed
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
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http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
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I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
Download "Audacity" and it comes with a free sd card speed test.
See it it's the speed of the sd card.
If it is then read through the "corrupt card" thread >> you will see the recommendation -- set the power turnoff time to say 2 minutes and never use the on/off switch.
You will need a soft reset in between to reset the speed of the card.
kennyidaho said:
I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
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Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
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Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
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I reckon the reasoning is that if people minimize applications (which they will do to avoid launch lag) and forget to close applications (which they will do ) the device will definitely crash.
For an insight into WM5 memory management read this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/08/16/702746.aspx
Incidentally, the O2 Custom Today plugin included with the O2 UK Orbit rom allows you to actually close an application.
in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
Thank you
Thanks so much to everyone who has responded to my (desparate sounding) post.
I use the O2 button to close applications routinely. I don't leave them open because I know this slows things down and (presumably) increases battery usage. I don't think that is the cause of the problem.
I've already been through the routine with the SD card. I don't think that it the problem either.
The only suggestion here I haven't tried is overclocking it. How do I do it? Does it invalidate my warranty?
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in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
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Same as mine. It's pretty good.
yup, it will invalidate the warranty so just hope you can take it off before it goes back if it has to, I work for o2, the people in the shop wont know that youve overclocked it and I wouldnt tell them, the repairers on the other hand might spot it so be careful
tou can get the overclocking program here: http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
theres full instructions, read before you start tweaking it on your own. I have mine overclocked to 260mhz and I noticed the difference immediatley, it reverts back to 201mhz in sleep mode and jumps to 260 when I power it up.
hth
Do you have a skin? I downloaded a nice AppleMac style skin and everything slowed down - took me 2 days to realise the cause.
Also, the o2 icon does not always close programs. Use it then go to Settings/System/Memory , have a look in the Running Programs tab and you sometimes see something still in there that should have closed with the o2 icon!!
Michael
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My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software
Odd... this isn't an issue on my WM6 Dash...
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My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software
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Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.
Guess I'm lucky. I disabled a couple things in the startup folder, MyFav and the voice recognition program, things became a lot zippier after that.
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Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.
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ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....
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ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....
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I also have this problem. One of the reasons I don't like Windows Mobile.
I wonder if it is leaking from IE. My Temporary Internet Folder never gets higher than a few k. On WM5 this could be several megs in size.
Anyone else getting memory problem on the WM6 Dash?
Use Oxios CloseApps...it helps a little
I'm fully resolved to the fact that it's just a combination of an OS that doesn't really manage memory well combined with applications that don't really clean up after themselves well either.
So, to make it through the day, I use Oxios CloseApps throughout the day. It seems to be the best at recouping memory. It's free (bonus!) and is very simple to use. You run it and it tells you how much memory it gained back and then you hit "ok" so it closes. Easy.
I'm also fully resolved that I have to reboot my Dash 1-3 times a day depending on how intensely I'm using it.
Welcome to the world of WinCE/PPC/Windows Mobile/Windows Mobile Smartphone/WM6!
C.
Your home screen plugin can affect your memory usage as well.
I had the same problem with mine which actually led me to return it. It was actually for several reasons, but particularly I felt like I was sitting in front of an old 386 backtracking my steps making sure I don't run out of memory like in Windows 3.1.
For one, I couldn't install the software I wanted to install on it even after registry tweaks and unlocks. The memory leak got a lot worse once I upgraded to WM6. Most of the time after multi-tasking for a bit, my memory stayed around 10MB with ONE application running. If I surfed the internet for 5-10, it usually made the drain even worse by a couple more MB and I had to reboot.
What actually broke the camel's back was when I went to send an MMS to someone and the file was at 356K. No big deal, it gave me the option to resize. Yeah. The resize neverworked the way it was supposed to. It didn't matter how low I picked the options. I picked 160 X XXX with extremely low quality and it would come up with a message telling me "Your message is 356K so it cannot be sent." and plop me right out of the message and I would have to go dig for it on my card again! (Still couldn't resize it though)
I'm very good at managing memory and getting around bugs, but that was just a little too much for a cell phone. Don't get me wrong. I love the phone! I HATE the software/OS! Would've been the perfect phone had it not been for the leaks, even if I couldn't install the software I wanted to!
Wow. I'm not going mad!
They are exactly the same issues as I am having.
maruichan what was the problem like with WM5?
Memory
I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.
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I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.
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Does it help to stop the memory leaking??
Is it better than oxios?
I don't even look at the free memory- my MDA Mail never slows down or crashes no matter how small the memory gets. I used to constantly check the memory on other devices but for Smartphone it does not seem to matter as much.
When you get a 'problem' with lack of memory it is a problem, otherwise just ignore it...
Not sure if this is a design function but everytime I turn the device off it returns to Today's screen.
Actually even when I toggle to screen in WMP and turn the screen back on the PPC throws me back to Today.
I initially thought it was a problem with my ROM (LSG then Custel 1.3) but after flashing to VP3G 3.0 on my 8525 (I have both an 8525 and TyTN) and without anything else installed it does that.
Any ideas if this can be changed? I'd like to open app to stay visible.
Thanks in advance for the help.
I really don't have this problem on my ROM, see signature. I have especially tested it for you to be sure.....
Perhaps flashing 1 device to a different ROM. Can you see it yourself.
that's what i figured so I had my 8525 that was running WM5.
I HardSPL, SuperCID it then flashed it with VP3G.
There is nothing else on the phone but my exchange and pop account setup, owner info and basic stuff like this.
I also have the clock shown on every apps and the extended rom unlock/mounted (though it does it with or w/o).
My TyTN is running Custel 1.3.
I just can't think what could be causing the device to always minimize open apps when the phone is turned off (standby).
It seems that some plugins force a redraw of the today screen when coming out of stb. Nothing much to do but turn off the offending plugin.
Go to settings/today and on tab for objects remove the flag for timeout. Problem gone.
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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This is a really annoying "feature" of WM6. So far no answer in the Microsoft forums regarding this. Would be glad if i could return to exactly the screen where i switched off the device or in which the timeout forced it to suspend.
If it is not possible to fix this with a registry hacking, would it be possible to develop a small helper application which saves which application was open before the atual suspend takes place and upon a wakeup reads this information and switches to the last active window ? The app itself is still active, isn't it ?
Regards,
Secuspec
Wait. So what exactly happens? I also used vp3G 3.0 and let's say I have Resco File Explorer open and my phone sits idle for 1 minute and goes into standby mode.. when I press the power button to make the screen turn on again, it still shows Resco File Explorer for me.. Is the bug causing it to go back to the today screen every time the phone goes into standby mode?
if a program is left open when the device is turned off (or screen "muted") the program will be minimized when you turn the Pocket PC back on (you're kicked back to Today).
Glad I'm not the only once having issues. Thought it may be a design (flaw) but IMO it's a crappy one. Wish someone can find a fix.
interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
ericc - that's exactly the problem. Are you sure you're really going to "sleep", and you aren't just seeing your backlight turn off? (you should have to hit the power button to wake it back up).
Especially annoying when driving with navigation software - I want to just turn it on and see what I saw before it went to sleep.
MikeC - that's a very interesting point. I have exchange push email going, and my system administrator pushes restrictions onto my phone... I use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to change the ridiculous 5-minute lockout to something more reasonable.... perhaps either the device lock or Zenyee is the culprit.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
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Actually not really... my Windows workstation locks I expect to see the program I had maximized still on screen not all down in the toolbar minimized. IMO that doesn't make much sense (and even if it did they should have an option to select the default behaviour).
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Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Works fine on my Tytn with WM6 official Swedish. I don't have a device lock enabled btw.
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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Thanks for the hint samw52000! That perfectly worked for me And it also sped up a lot of programs directly after wake up -what makes perfectly sense since no other program is interfering anymore.
Long time after last reply, but still no solution.
I notice if time in suspend mode is longer that programmed in settings/Lock/Prompt if device unused for... (if you have to tap your password) then screen is same as before suspend.
I noticed this after I set up direct push email. Wondering if anyone else is having the same issue.
BTW I'm using the Premier Plus Rom and Mail 2 Web free push service
mine is, dont know why but just started recently after re flashing to artemies love rom 4.1.
Sometimes it shuts down when it wants to, freezes when it wants to and received sms notification dont work even after you have set it in the phone settings.
I reckon didnt flash properly so i am going to do it again. I hate flashing.
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mine is, dont know why but just started recently after re flashing to artemies love rom 4.1.
Sometimes it shuts down when it wants to, freezes when it wants to and received sms notification dont work even after you have set it in the phone settings.
I reckon didnt flash properly so i am going to do it again. I hate flashing.
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Thanx for replying but I think I've narrowed it down to a storage card issue. i noticed that it woud freeze for abouta full minute when I had a particular program open that I run from the storage card. I moved it to the Device memory and today it still froze, but I could at least turn the device on and off.
Now that I think about it, I noticed this freezing after i reflashed to the Premium Plus ROM with SDHC support. I upgraded from a 2GB Card to a 4GB Card. So it could be the SDHC drivers or just the card itself. I'm going to switch back to the 2GB card for a few days to see if it happens again.
That's as far as I'll gotten. These observations were made after a hard reset.
And I know what you mean about reflashing. You hare to reinstall everything. But it's good to do at least once a year.
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mine is, dont know why but just started recently after re flashing to artemies love rom 4.1.
Sometimes it shuts down when it wants to, freezes when it wants to and received sms notification dont work even after you have set it in the phone settings.
I reckon didnt flash properly so i am going to do it again. I hate flashing.
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I have very similar issues on mine.
I had the Oops v1.0 on it, then thought it had been a while since I last flashed, and perhaps that was the reason it froze often no logical reason to think this ! I KNOW).
So I flashed it with another ROM, and it does exactly the same. I have searched on this forum and seen some HTC do this as well.
UPDATE:
I have now narrowed it down to this:
I discovered that if I restart my Atremis and use it as normal or leave it on a stable table or side bed, it works OK, but if I slip it into my pocket for a minute it freezes....or if I place it in the same space/place/pocket/bag with my BB Pearl it just freezes....AMAZING !
I will be very stunned...yes stunned if their any solution to this...
Feel free to stun me !
I dont have any input on the issues you guys are having but I think i solved my own problem. I moved two programs from the storage card to the main memory and it hasnt come back. Actually, I think it was just the 2nd program.
I'm using an older ROM though: O2 Premium Plus by Meschle (now retired). I've stuck with this ROM because it's been the most stable for me.
UPDATE
I have very similar issues on mine.
I had the Oops v1.0 on it, then thought it had been a while since I last flashed, and perhaps that was the reason it froze often no logical reason to think this ! I KNOW).
So I flashed it with another ROM, and it does exactly the same. I have searched on this forum and seen some HTC do this as well.
UPDATE:
I have now narrowed it down to this:
I discovered that if I restart my Atremis and use it as normal or leave it on a stable table or side bed, it works OK, but if I slip it into my pocket for a minute it freezes....or if I place it in the same space/place/pocket/bag with my BB Pearl it just freezes....AMAZING !
I will be very stunned...yes stunned if their any solution to this...
Feel free to stun me !
Possible solution
Hello,
first of all when you experience any kind of freezing, run a full scandisk in Pocket Mechanic, then Check Notification queue in the same app.
Also check Start - settings - system - Key lock , make sure that you select "Lock all buttons except power" (first option). Restart your Artemis and try if the problem happens again.
Well it's been a week and I haven't had the freeze come back after I moved a couple programs from my storage card to my device. Both were programs with an application (small) and a huge database on the storage card (Oxford Spanish Dictionary & iSilo data base). I noticed that I always got the freeze when one or both of these applications was running.
So, of course, the data base info is still on the storage card but the applications are saved under Windows/Programs. No more freezes. And when I mentioned freeze, I ment that the phone would be extremely slow to respond to inputs. I would wait about 30 to 60 seconds for it to respond. If I pushed the power button 3 or 4 times, like a minute later I would get the screen flashing on and off so it's registering the commands. I wasn't sure if this was the same type of freezing that others were experiencing.
I'm thinking it has something to do with the card or the drivers for the SDHC. I never had this problem without the SDHC support and my 2GB card. Just FYI
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Hello,
first of all when you experience any kind of freezing, run a full scandisk in Pocket Mechanic, then Check Notification queue in the same app.
Also check Start - settings - system - Key lock , make sure that you select "Lock all buttons except power" (first option). Restart your Artemis and try if the problem happens again.
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As funny as it may sound.
I did the above and noticed a few days after, that the freezing is now reduced....still happens from time to time, though not as frequently as it used to...
What is the logic?
I assumed it was due to my frequent ROMing of my Atremis....guess patience has now paid off, but seriously and technically, I would want to be able to explain what is happening !
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
All,
Upgraded my unbranded UK TP2 to WM6.5 yesterday and just re-installed all the apps; here's some initial impressions.
It IS worth doing the hard reset to do the upgrade. First off, you're going to have a nice clean install which is always a good thing; secondly WM6.5 itself is more evolution than revolution; small graphical tweaks, things are 'easier' to stab at with your fingers (the screen seems more forgiving), and text/menu options/e-mails etc are spaced out more to make using the device easier on the run.
Some changes/good things/quirks in WM6.5:
Owner information option is gone from the "settings" menu. Simply activate on the Today Screen, click where it says "Touch here to enter owner information" and you're in the same place. Don't bother messing with a nice clean install with that .cab file doing the rounds on here when you just don't have to.
The honeycomb menu is a personal choice, but it's flexible and clean looking enough to make it easy to navigate around. I've gone from using SPB Menu 2 (as version 3 just did NOT integrate with TF3D and the phone contacts (soft key) option) back to just using the standard WM6.5 menu and Today Screen.
WM6.5 introduces new options to reject calls with a text message - most useful.
WM6.5 introduces a new option to automatically activate the pen notes application when the stylus is removed from the holster during a call. The main reason to remove the stylus is to scribble a phone number down, so this option is again, most welcome.
VOICE DIALLING OVER BLUETOOTH WORKS AGAIN! The feature I missed the most on my TP2 works again. I installed MS Voice Dialler 1.6UK version and with my Jawbone BT headset I'm back to normal operation.
Re-organising the main honeycomb menu is a little painful; rather than a nice "hold and drag" method, you can only "Move To Top" or "Move Down". Putting things into folders and using File Explorer is the order of the day.
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
FM Radio application is installed as a default. Again, no need for 3rd party hacks or apps.
WiFi reception and throughput speed appears to have been boosted. I certainly get a better reception in my home, in the same locations I used to get slow/juttery video streaming in.
Battery increments - not seen it in 1% as yet, anyone else confirm if it's 1 or 10% increments?
No major application incompatibility problems that I can see as yet.
Run the Rhodium Advanced Config app over the device to ensure fast GPS, A-GPS and the like is tweaked to your convenience and you'll find you can get pretty much everything you want done with a standard configuration, with your normal apps installed on it, rather than hacking and tweaking. As a result the system takes a much smaller memory footprint and everything seems to hang together more smoothly and without slowing the system down.
Hope this helps clear some things up for your normal/power users looking to update their devices. All-in-all I'm really happy with the WM6.5 update. It almost feels like the TP2 was made in the first place for WM6.5 and its just come to life with it, almost as if WM6.1 was a (temporary) necessary retrograde step that HTC didn't want to do...
Thanks and be good to see other people's feedback on the update.
Adam.
Thx for the update.
Very glad to hear that voice dialing over BT is working again and that there is a slide to lock and FM Radio (without having to install battery killing 3th party apps).
Looks very promising.
Hope I can install this soon and add some comments. Dutch version however not yet available.
The quick drop down menu from the start button is gone in 6.5/ Is there a decent cab to get it back? I've tried some previously that did not work. One thing I would miss with 6.5. Yeah, I know a petty thing to some, important to me.
I dislike BT so that feature means nothing, don't care for titanium or tf3d, so ms 3.5 is my prefered ui. My tp2 is one of the most finger friendly phones I've had yet even while running 6.1 . I know it always seems to make sense to upgrade to the latest and greatest, but the latest isn't neccessarily the greatest.
Having tried several diff cooked 6.5's on my old tp I may sit this one out for awhile. If you've neve tried 6.5 then by all means one should give it a try. Judge for yourself.
Bluetooth
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
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The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
Adam.
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Maybe I'm missing something. It seems that the slide to unlock doesn't lock the hardware buttons. If the phone is in a case or a pocket and a call comes in, it's possible to accidentally press the hardware accept or hang up button. That's a problem that only seems solvable using 3rd party apps.
I'm very satisfied with this 6.5 rom release. It includes basically everything I wanted. The only thing is the Manila 6.5 with the animated today menu that changes as the weather from your localization changes.
even though this official release of winMo 6.5 looks great (installed the french one on an unbranded tp2) :
-i think the colored tf3d look is giving the rhodium a less serious image (too much green in it
-in general, the OS seem to be quite heavy for the device
-there's an obvious problem with the tf3d today clock (which is always giving me exactly 1hour & 2minutes earlier for 2seconds everytime i press the "no" button)
-also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
and seriously guys, i still don't get why they didn't provide tp2 users with manila 2.5, it makes absolutelly no "SENSE"
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
true2you said:
also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
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agreed, it's a bit annoying, it also deactiveates the wi-fi when you soft reset the device... I'm sure there will be a tweak for it soon!
malumbreras said:
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
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s2u2 still works but the new 'lock' that this version of Windows Mobile is very similar...
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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For the Owner info - see this topic (link in first page):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571376
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds.
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
t69broken said:
This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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but the new clocks still flips as well......
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
t69broken said:
This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
true2you said:
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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I think it actually has something to do with the my location thing, but since I can't get that to work properly most of it is just an annoyance. Lol
E-mail to HTC (bug that I found in Manila 2.1 in the WM 6.1 that still maintains in WM 6.5):
Good Morning
I've been using the Windows Mobile 6.1 for a while and found a bug that I was expecting to be solved in the 6.5 release but unfortunately no.
When I choose in the weather tab the City of Lisbon, Portugal and update the forecast it corrects me the system time to GMT CASABLANCA instead of using the correct GMT LONDON, DUBLIN.
The Portuguese Time includes changes to the Winter Time and Summer Time, like in UK. To correct that I need to use always as my default city London, not taking use of the function from the new Manila: "My Location".
Can that be corrected in a next release?
Best Regards
Márcio Teixeira
apv245l said:
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
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Nope, it's still the WidComm BT Stack.
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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Quick and easy - don't bother downloading and installing cabs, this is easier!
Go to Settings -> Today and make sure that in the "Items" tab, the option for "Owner Info" is ticked.
Now go to your today screen. There will be the owner information line - and if you've entered nothing, it'll say "Tap to enter info..." just tap there and enter the info in the control panel that appears.
If you then don't want Owner Info on your today screen (but just wanted to enter a username for app registration etc), then go back into Settings -> Today and untick the Owner Info option.
Thx,
Adam.
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
mine is unresponsive sometimes and i have to tap on the back of the phone to get to work again. i thinks its going out soon
That's what I thought about my old one, I figured I had dropped it to much.. because I did lol but now I got a new one 2 weeks old and I'm running into the SAME problems.. I'm assuming I must be doing something wrong with how I've got **** set-up
j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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j18yo i think that your problem might be that to many programs run when you start your vogue that happened to me before and i hated it but then i heard of a program named "Space Reclaimer" FREE and it made my vogue much more responsive because the program stops any programs that start when you turn on your vogue or any windows mobile phone
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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What ROM are you running? I asume that wehn your new device came you loaded it the same as the old one. It has to be something with the ROM you are runnning or a problem with a program causing your issue.
My phone would do this periodically too, with Vin's latest ROMs. I turned off Manila and am running Titanium now. Interestingly - no lags when unlocking since. I'll keep Titanium on for some time to see if that makes it go away. I had an issue with both his current v2 and v4 (which I am running now).
Ive had to replace my screen twice and the whole phone once because of touch screen problems. Thank God for the insurance.
Ah yes... to what OP mentioned:
I do not beleive it is a more pressure thing. I do not think it is more pressure that is required but rather that the phone is non responsive. If you are unlocking and typing a PIN, it takes the PIN and all but it takes perhaps one digit every 5 seconds. That's my experience anyway. So it is just slower, as if something was consuming the CPU and UI is not responsive.
crazylegs91 said:
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
j18yo said:
THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
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Update: I don't think CR erases things as much as it kills processes that won't restart. Thru trial and error, I've adjusted my CleanRAM settings to where I haven't had the problem for a couple of days. I'm able to do a Level 3 cleans on a once a night schedule and during the day if need be. In settings, I have it to close all apps, launch startup progs, and display today screen. I have no exceptions listed for either running progs or startup progs. I have the most up to date version from the OTA update in the program.
The program links in my StartUp folder are: poutlook (original on ROM), sddaemon (original on ROM), WLMUpdate (original on ROM), Glossybars.exe (I added this), biotouch.exe (I added as I thought CR killing this was the source of the problem), pocketwit.exe (I added), and SIPChange (I added).
One thing I did do was delete the link for TouchPal from the Startup folder. I did this for other reasons (I use FingerKeyBoard). Not sure if this was part of the problem.
I can scroll with d-pad and no touch lag.
On a side note, can I delete any of poutlook, sddaemon, or WLMUpdate from the startup folder to save battery power?
I'm probably just a bit above a newb so sorry if I don't make sense.
Update: Just for kicks, I deleted the links for glossybars.exe and pocketwit.exe from my StartUp and it started locking again after running CleanRAM. I put them back in and it works again even after running CleanRAM. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain this. I'm just keeping it the way it is now...
Hmm weird that you removed something not very important like pocketwit an cleanram caused problems again.. someone has to have some info on this??
I deleted everything from my StartUp folder but my SPB Mobile Shell.. I didn't have sddaemon, but I did have poutlook and WLMUpdate both of which I deleted.. then I had some other programs that aren't necessary for the phone.. I have no problems on restart or anything, and the % showed being used is stays around the 30's now instead of 40s/50s.. and when I run programs it usually reachs 50% tops now instead of 60/70% I used to get.
PS: Pocketwit isnt bad I used to praise the program but now I've tried MoTweets and.. I can't think of the other one now.. ****.. it's really good though but it seems to use a lot more phone power than MoTweets so I went back to that.
Pocketwit kept giving me problems, started saying I need to install that NET 3.5 or whatever but when I try to it says I have a later version already so it won't install, then other times it'll work completely fine.. but MoTweets I like better anyways
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
crazylegs91 said:
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm running a stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. Thanks though.
bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm not using the TouchFLO interface, does that mean its still on though?
I'm not completely up on understanding all this
This was happening with Vin's Rom for me as well. I was tripping out pressing ON so many times with no screen showing up but phone light on! I believe it could be the power settings. I disabled the "Turn off device" which I believe was mentioned in his notes about the rom.
I gave up on this problem for a while but found something when researching how to disable to cube. I used the registry edit in this thread to disable to cube post #69. I didn't do any of the other steps because I'm not having memory probs (42% with pocketwit in the bckgrd).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&page=7
I noticed that biotouch.exe never shows up in the running processes menu in CleanRAM and I don't have the "lock/freeze" scrolling problem any longer and I can run CleanRam without the problem occurring. I can press any item on the screen as well with no delayed response.
However, this stops you from being able to finger scroll and do the "side to side" scroll in Messaging. I never really finger scrolled and prefer using the d-pad for scrolling so losing that functionality isn't a big deal to me.
If anyone can figure out how to keep this working so smooth and have the option to finger scroll, I'd be much obliged. It just seems that biotouch.exe craps out sometimes and locks up the d-pad. If they could both work equally well....