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Help A Newbie once A Day with An MDA

Hi All
Have a problem with my latest phone. A so called friend told me to upgarde the ROM so as to remove all the T Mobile poop in it. So he gave me the software I started the upgrade all went well stage 1 then stage 2 and finally stage 3. It said Congrats just hit reset and the power button at the same time and its done. Easy Me thought..... Not Easy....... Its now just booting up and screaming at me. The screen wont lite up and nothing else. I have tries to reset over 10 times now.....Anyone got any ideas, have I shot and killed my new phone...
Ta JG

this is not good. do you know which phone you are having? MDA is all the phoen from t-mobile. First identify your phone. Then, you need to know if you are using the right ROM on the right phone. THEN, you have to know are you using the right phone ROM on the phone (eg G3 or G4).

Its an MDA Copmact 11 does that help....

common.. more info. which rom you've used?

Alpine_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.
SORRY i AM NEW TO THIS AND i AINT GOT A CLUE WHAT i AM DOIN...HE HE HE

Oh forgot to mention it all went in ok, stage 1, 2, 3 and even told me on my computer it had worked. It was when I tried the power and reset that it all came tumbling down........

JeanGenie said:
Oh forgot to mention it all went in ok, stage 1, 2, 3 and even told me on my computer it had worked. It was when I tried the power and reset that it all came tumbling down........
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All I would like to do is get the old stuff back then worry about an upgarde later can this be done without me having to do unspeakable things to the phone????

You've just flashed your Charmer phone with an Alpine ROM. If that doesn't kill your phone, I'm not sure what will.
Ok, try this. Hold down all 3 buttons -> power, camera, record buttons, and poke the reset. See if you can get a 3 colours screen.
If you get that, close active sync (stop the process WCESCOMM.EXE), connect your phone to your PC (when it is displaying the 3 colour screen). Then you ought to be able to run the ROM update file (EXE) from t-mobile (check the Charmer Wiki) and that may fix your problem.

hanmin said:
You've just flashed your Charmer phone with an Alpine ROM. If that doesn't kill your phone, I'm not sure what will.
Ok, try this. Hold down all 3 buttons -> power, camera, record buttons, and poke the reset. See if you can get a 3 colours screen.
If you get that, close active sync (stop the process WCESCOMM.EXE), connect your phone to your PC (when it is displaying the 3 colour screen). Then you ought to be able to run the ROM update file (EXE) from t-mobile (check the Charmer Wiki) and that may fix your problem.
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I have done what you have said, I think...DUHHHH the screen has not lit up but its now showing USB in the top and V1.02 in th ebottem. I have connected it to my computer but active sync has not cut in yet....... I assume I have done it wrong....

hey
you DONT want activesync to cut in
put it in that 'usb mode' that you managed to get and just run the OFFICIAL T-Mobile rom update utility, but make sure to kill the wcesscomm process in windows' task manager.
good luck!

duke_stix said:
hey
you DONT want activesync to cut in
put it in that 'usb mode' that you managed to get and just run the OFFICIAL T-Mobile rom update utility, but make sure to kill the wcesscomm process in windows' task manager.
good luck!
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I have just downloaded the t-mobile update as below
RUU_Compact ll_2060227_20602110_021921_T-MobileUK_Ship
I have switched off the file as you have said in the task manager. The update laods then says cannot find MDA Device connection error 274.
Could a system restart help?????
Sorry for all this, maybe stick to things I do know in the future, like washing my car.......

hey
get your phone back into that screen which had 'usb' written on it.
then do this:
download and install a program called 'winrar', you've probably heard of it and in all likelihood already have it!
once its installed, right click that t-mobile update you just download and select the 'extract to.../' option that will come up in the drop down menu, let it extract to the folder it does, open the folder in there will be a few files: you want the file which is called something along the lines of 'upgrateUT' or RUU Upgrade UT, it'll be an exe,
connect your phone up to the computer (with it in the USB mode and activesync disabled) and run that exe, it should go through as normal
good luck
(if you want any help just post back! best bet is for you to extract the files and report back with the name of the files in the folder!)

duke: I think he did that. He downloaded the EXE from http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_com2.html
and it seems not able to detect his Charmer.
JeanGenie: Just to make sure, when you run that EXE, you have the phone connected with it displaying USB?

duke_stix said:
hey
get your phone back into that screen which had 'usb' written on it.
then do this:
download and install a program called 'winrar', you've probably heard of it and in all likelihood already have it!
once its installed, right click that t-mobile update you just download and select the 'extract to.../' option that will come up in the drop down menu, let it extract to the folder it does, open the folder in there will be a few files: you want the file which is called something along the lines of 'upgrateUT' or RUU Upgrade UT, it'll be an exe,
connect your phone up to the computer (with it in the USB mode and activesync disabled) and run that exe, it should go through as normal
good luck
(if you want any help just post back! best bet is for you to extract the files and report back with the name of the files in the folder!)
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okie dokie...have extracted all th efiles and these are what I have got in a seperate folder
EnterBootloader
nk.nbf
README
ROMUpdateUtility
RUUGetInfo
RUUResource.dll
Thats all the files inside the folder

is "ROMUpdateUtility" an EXE file? try running that.

hanmin said:
is "ROMUpdateUtility" an EXE file? try running that.
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I have and after a few seconds it says error 274 cannot find device....!!!!

well, it is amazing that you can go into the bootloader at all. I'm suspecting that the bootloader is not the Chamer bootloader, hence the ROM update EXE is not able to find it. Where did you download the Alpine ROM. Give exact link.
UPDATE: Look at the post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269329&highlight=
by 'windowsceportal'. He is able to flash the phone with 'Prophet RUU 2.5.2 noID check' with the DLL RUUResource.dll of Charmer RUU. I'm not very certain, but the noIdCheck may able to help.
UPDATE: As according to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280128&highlight=
the bootloader mode that you are having is that of an Alpine (Charmer's bootloader mode is a screen with 3 colours). So, probably the updating program doesn't work. However, as an idea, you may want to try getting alpine upgrading EXE files to load Charmer ROM into the phone. It is an idea, not sure how can this be achieved.

hanmin said:
well, it is amazing that you can go into the bootloader at all. I'm suspecting that the bootloader is not the Chamer bootloader, hence the ROM update EXE is not able to find it. Where did you download the Alpine ROM. Give exact link.
UPDATE: Look at the post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269329&highlight=
by 'windowsceportal'. He is able to flash the phone with 'Prophet RUU 2.5.2 noID check' with the DLL RUUResource.dll of Charmer RUU. I'm not very certain, but the noIdCheck may able to help.
UPDATE: As according to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280128&highlight=
the bootloader mode that you are having is that of an Alpine (Charmer's bootloader mode is a screen with 3 colours). So, probably the updating program doesn't work. However, as an idea, you may want to try getting alpine upgrading EXE files to load Charmer ROM into the phone. It is an idea, not sure how can this be achieved.
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This is the link i used to get the original upgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Does that help any...

JeanGenie said:
This is the link i used to get the original upgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Does that help any...
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Is there anyway of just deleting the Alpine ROM and reinstalling the correct charmer. I, as you have probably guessed aint got a clue what I am doing never lone saying...he he he
Just a thought.......
Plus my new XDA IIi was delieverd today am I being silly when I say I have been told that I can debrand it with the Alpine rom as listed above, dont want to try anything incase this phone goes belly up also....

Hellllppppp...........
Its me again, can anyone make any other suggestions to my problem please. I have tried in vain to do what has been already suggested but it seems either it wont work or more to the point I have no clue as to what I am doing.

read files from bootloader...phone stuck in calibration screen and activesync KO???

Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul

as far as i know (not that much), reading files from bootloader is pretty impossible.
You can always just reflash. If the touchscreen problem persists, it's possible that the problem is hardware related.
Your computer should detect your device when in bootloader, and failing that, you should be able to SD flash (assuming you're HardSPL'd or equivalent, thats just what we have in the herald forum)

Thanks for your help
I'm quite sure the hardware is fine as all my problems started after a crash of the OS.
Anyone has an idea to get access to my ppc?

pcwizzul said:
Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul
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if the sdcarddriver is not loaded then the following will not work but give it a try anyways. make a text file "whatever.txt" no quotes then rename it to "welcome.not" no quotes then put it in the root of your storage card and it should skip the whole startup process. that is if it loads the sd card driver or you might want to think about flashing another rom

I already tried the "welcome.not" trick but got no results. I'm afraid that the sd card driver is not loaded then.
Thanks for the hint irus anyway!
Really there's no way to read files from bootloader or something similar?

not that i know of
but the fact that your issue was noticed during a rom flash
dont mean it's not hardware related
much like a heart attack which happens during a thunderstorm
dont need be related to the thunderstorm

Wait! The error never happened during a flash. I never said it. I had that rom on my trinity since a month and it worked like a charm. Then suddenly I got an error and the phone was stuck.
I have understood what you mean but at least I hope it's not a hardware failure!

o2 zest downgrade from wm6.5

I have ran the original o2 formware program and it will not program the zest. The zest firmware update utility keeps telling me "check the language is the same as ..."
So how do you downgrade the o2 zest to original firmware after running wm6.5 ...?
Help needed please.
Bob

blobby12uk said:
I have ran the original o2 formware program and it will not program the zest. The zest firmware update utility keeps telling me "check the language is the same as ..."
So how do you downgrade the o2 zest to original firmware after running wm6.5 ...?
Help needed please.
Bob
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Hi,
When you get this message, you should find a file called "tmp_rom.abi" in the same directory as the firmware update utility (you need to Show Hidden Files first - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/hiddenfiles.mspx).
Before clicking "OK" on that message, copy tmp_rom.abi to another folder. When finished, close the update utility. Rename "tmp_rom.abi" to "GM5_WWE_Zest.abi" and copy to your SD Card. Then flash as you did the WM6.5 one (Navpad Down + Reset).

Just to say thankyou for your response , my zest is back to original op sys.
Regards
Bob

strange, just trying this and the bootloader never finds the file...interesting

Buck_Rodgers said:
strange, just trying this and the bootloader never finds the file...interesting
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Make sure on the SD Card the file is called GM5_WM61Downgrade.abi or something like that. It has to start with GM5_ and end with .abi

done a few before, but for some reason, just never works with the file i've ripped/extracted from the update program. it's there, named correctly. I'm absolutely puzzled

Buck_Rodgers said:
done a few before, but for some reason, just never works with the file i've ripped/extracted from the update program. it's there, named correctly. I'm absolutely puzzled
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make sure the abi file is not hidden. Sometimes the bootloader doesn't see hidden files.

i followed the instructions not to hide the files on my pc. that wht you mean? (your being really helpfull by the way thankyou)

Buck_Rodgers said:
i followed the instructions not to hide the files on my pc. that wht you mean? (your being really helpfull by the way thankyou)
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no problems do you have more than one abi file on your storage card? If so ensure there is only the 6.1 one on there.

nope, just the one .abi file. i've renamed it a couple of times too (but still following the GM5_xyz.abi nomenclature). its insane in the membrane lol, i see a few other users here have done it....why not me? i feel like a leper lol

Buck_Rodgers said:
nope, just the one .abi file. i've renamed it a couple of times too (but still following the GM5_xyz.abi nomenclature). its insane in the membrane lol, i see a few other users here have done it....why not me? i feel like a leper lol
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Lol. Keep trying, if you upgraded to WM6.5 this way, you will be able to downgrade wo WM6.1
Right-click on the ABI file, go to "Properties" and ensure "Hidden" is unticked.

well god damn!! you have the patience of a saint for dealing with stupid people....sir i salute you lol.... it was hidden in the file properties....i feel......like a retard lol. Thanks very much man, i just wasn't having any luck with custom roms, tried a few of yours but all intermittently froze. I'll try this today, and if still no joy, gonna get a tg01 tomorrow and sell this to CEX just to get rid of it. Thanks once again!!!

question about installing something

I tried to install the FM radio cab onto my phone, but when I go to run the setu up, I get an error message saying "there is no application associated with (this file), run the application first, then open the file from within the application.
What should I do?
Thanks!!

What kind of file is it? .cab or .exe? If it's a .exe then run it from you're computer. Make sure you got active sync working

thanks for respoinding
It's a cab file.

Aleroluver said:
It's a cab file.
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.cab files need to be moved to the phone (best to make a folder on the SD card just for that), and run from there.

hi
I tried that, but when I try to run the file on the phone, I get that message. It won't work! If it helps, I'm trying to use one linked to on the thread titled "htc does have an fm radio". I'd really like to get this working!
Thanks!

hmmm
Now when I click on the setup file, it tries to open the Opera browser, but all I get is a blank page and nothing happens!

Aleroluver said:
Now when I click on the setup file, it tries to open the Opera browser, but all I get is a blank page and nothing happens!
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Do other .cab files behave this way when you try to run them on your phone? It sounds like the one you downloaded might be corrupted..? Your phone should run it directly with no problem as long as the file extension is still ".cab"
I would try a soft-reset, and then try the copy I have attached here instead of the one you first grabbed (it's the same file, but I know this copy works ok). You'll just have to unzip it and then move the cab to your phone.

hey
THANK YOU! The file you linked worked perfectly! Thank you again.... I really appreciate it. So gratifying to finally have it work. I still miss my MDA and Wing for many reasons, but I'm feeling a little better about the TP2...

Aleroluver said:
THANK YOU! The file you linked worked perfectly! Thank you again.... I really appreciate it. So gratifying to finally have it work. I still miss my MDA and Wing for many reasons, but I'm feeling a little better about the TP2...
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Glad to help
I had a wizard (which I think was the same phone as the MDA), and nothing will take the special place it will always have in my heart. However, the TP2 does a damn good job of carrying that torch

yep
The Wizard is the MDA... it was my first touch screen/windows PDA... I'll never forget how excited I was to get it... I miss the nav pad a lot though.... and they removed the IR port (not that I used it) and the camera flash (not that it was very effective)... I don't think new phones should have features removed that their predecessors had... I had to fight Tmo to get a decent price on my TP2 (and I was still raped, and I'd been with them for 10 years) and then the touch screen stopped working completely after a few weeks... Never had that problem with the Wizard (MDA) or Herald (Wing) and I had them for years.... that combined with no nav pad and NO TAB KEY haven't made me fall in love with this device!

Sprint TP2 Wifi does not work - pls help!

Windows Mobile: 6.5
XDAndroid: Rhod400
Installed Version: 2010_11_24
(Installed ProjectAndroid2.2BLAZN.092810 and ran update 2010_11_24)
Wifi works on WM but not on Android
Can turn on Wifi but Wifi goes off immediately.
Error message:
Sorry!
Application Settings (in process com.android.settings) is not responding.
I have my Haret.exe in andboot.
Thanks for your help in advance.

martian63 said:
Windows Mobile: 6.5
XDAndroid: Rhod400
Installed Version: 2010_11_24
(Installed ProjectAndroid2.2BLAZN.092810 and ran update 2010_11_24)
Wifi works on WM but not on Android
Can turn on Wifi but Wifi goes off immediately.
Error message:
Sorry!
Application Settings (in process com.android.settings) is not responding.
I have my Haret.exe in andboot.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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1) do not overclock
2) do not tamper with the phone immediately after boot, leave it alone for a while (30 secs, 1 min)
3) do not fill the desktop with widgets, they eat lots of resources
If none of these works, while still NOT overclocking, delete data.img file inside andboot folder and start from scratch.
Cheers.

Pretty strange, since I have a Sprint TP2 and Wifi works perfectly.
You might want to start by renaming your data.img to something else to back it up, and then starting up. If after you boot Wifi works, then you know something is messed up in your data.img. Otherwise, you know it's something else and you don't need to wipe out your data.img.

Wifi can also easily get bungled if you update your kernel and don't update your modules file.
The kernel (zImage) and modules (modules-xxxx.tar.gz) go hand-in-hand, and they MUST be updated together.

1. Formatted SD Card with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool
2. Deleted exchange inbox folder in SD Card (I have no idea why the formatting does not wipe it clean)
3. copied ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.cab to root of SD Card
4. Ran cab from explorer
Ran ProjectAndroid from WM
Ran Update
RHOD400
Cdma x
HW3D X
N AM DIAL X
Getting the following message:
Unable to scan for networks
WPA Wifi is on in WM
I renamed the data.img file... still does not work

manekineko said:
Pretty strange, since I have a Sprint TP2 and Wifi works perfectly.
You might want to start by renaming your data.img to something else to back it up, and then starting up. If after you boot Wifi works, then you know something is messed up in your data.img. Otherwise, you know it's something else and you don't need to wipe out your data.img.
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Could you please post the link to the build you used? I used
sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads
Thanks!

martian63 said:
Could you please post the link to the build you used? I used
sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads
Thanks!
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That is the one I use on my sprint tp2. Works awesome. I can even wifi tether. Did you download the one at the bottom of the page from Nov. 22?
Edit: sorry. just saw you gave that info. I have never tried that N american dialer. not sure what it does. do you still get the same error when you try to turn on wifi in settings?

ivwonka said:
That is the one I use on my sprint tp2. Works awesome. I can even wifi tether. Did you download the one at the bottom of the page from Nov. 22?
Edit: sorry. just saw you gave that info. I have never tried that N american dialer. not sure what it does. do you still get the same error when you try to turn on wifi in settings?
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I hard booted my TP2 to factory settings, used the .rar files instead of the .cab...
getting the same message "Unable to scan for networks".
Yes, I am getting the same error when I try to turn on wifi in settings.
The instructions in xda is a bit misleading for .rar
The steps say
1. Unzip
2. Copy contents of .Rar to the ROOT of your SD card
When you unzip, the content is in folder "XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210" sub-folder "XDAndroid2.2Froyo.XXxxXX"
The instruction should say, "Copy contents of "XDAndroid2.2Froyo.XXxxXX" to the root of SD card.
Please correct me if I am wrong. In any case, my wifi still does not work.

Have you tried updating manually? Also, you should get an 'andboot' folder if you go into that XXxxXX folder.
I also found a mistake with Reef's build... I asked him to update it. Basically he's not using a signed FRX03 image... I sent him a new bundle, doesn't look like he's updated it yet tho...
What I'd recommend in the meantime is to update this build manually. Download a new system.ext2, new kernel (zImage/modules - they go together!) and rootfs.
You can find all of those updates at http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page

arrrghhh said:
Have you tried updating manually? Also, you should get an 'andboot' folder if you go into that XXxxXX folder.
I also found a mistake with Reef's build... I asked him to update it. Basically he's not using a signed FRX03 image... I sent him a new bundle, doesn't look like he's updated it yet tho...
What I'd recommend in the meantime is to update this build manually. Download a new system.ext2, new kernel (zImage/modules - they go together!) and rootfs.
You can find all of those updates at //xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Downloaded the latest files individually. Updated the build manually by replacing the system.ext2, zImage/modules and rootfs. Modified the startup.txt to force cdma, keyboard to rhod400 and clock speed to 540672... getting the same error "Unable to scan for networks" error.

ivwonka said:
That is the one I use on my sprint tp2. Works awesome. I can even wifi tether. Did you download the one at the bottom of the page from Nov. 22?
Edit: sorry. just saw you gave that info. I have never tried that N american dialer. not sure what it does. do you still get the same error when you try to turn on wifi in settings?
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Can you please post the contents of your startup.txt?
Thanks!