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4GB SD card for XDA Exec

Dear All,
I was thinking of buying a 4GB SD card for my Xda Exec but i'm not quite sure if it supports it. Could someone please enlighten me on this, thanks alot.
regards,
Ravi

really interested to know your experience on this, or anyone else, as I am also looking.
This seems pretty cheap:
http://www.offtek.co.uk/item_detail.php?id=406125
Transcend do a compatability list, but doesn't have exec:
http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/FAQ/index.asp?axn=Detail&FAQNo=400
This is £109. Seen any cheaper for 4gb ?

interesting info:
Apparently, the 4gb sd card doesn't work on the treo650 as 4gb sd cards are in fat32 format and treo only accepts cards in fat format and not fat32 format.
Does exec recognise fat32 sd cards ?

Saw one on e-bay a couple of days ago for about £85 including shipping. I believe it was 150X speed (22Mbps). Will see if i can locate it, if you are interested.
cheers,
Ravi

Hey Everyone,
bought a couple of days ago a 4Gb SD card on ebay for £85.00.
Got it yearsterday put it in the Xda Executive works with no problem.
I formated it with Pocket Mechanic in FAT 32.
Copied all my stuff from my only 2GB MMC to the 4GB SD card a pop it in the XDA Executive and up to now I've had no problems.
Works Great.
The make of the card is:
My Flash
150X Turbo
Regards
Gigino

Gigino, can the camera save to the card? That appears to be where most people have had problems

Hey Coldpenquin,
I tried what you have said to save a camera photo to the Storage card.
You are right they is a problem I get a error message saying:
Camera
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:110:0
So it looks like that the 4Gb card does not work 100% on the Xda Exec.
Any another problem that I should be aware of.
Hope this is helpfull.
Any another person what me to try something please let me known.
Ciao
Gigino

the only card I know that does 150x is the transcend. wonder if this is the same OEM as the mycard ?????
Does camera save work ok on the 2gb ?
If you have an o2 xda exec it might worth a support email or call to o2. It sounds like a simple issue to fix, just some check in the camera software that is failing probably being due to using 32 bit integer, as this is 2gb address. 33bit is 4gb

just found out, myflash is actually adata.
adata is a good memory company, I have 2gb ddr2 in my pc from adata and np. They also make SD cards from samsung.
I never use the camera in any event. Cards the seem to be available in the uk:
Transcend (offtek)
Pretec
Myflash-adata (ebay)
Samsung-adata (samsung)
Ora (expansys)
rgds

gigino said:
Hey Coldpenquin,
I tried what you have said to save a camera photo to the Storage card.
You are right they is a problem I get a error message saying:
Camera
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:110:0
So it looks like that the 4Gb card does not work 100% on the Xda Exec.
Any another problem that I should be aware of.
Hope this is helpfull.
Any another person what me to try something please let me known.
Ciao
Gigino
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I've had the same problem 5 months ago when I bought the 4GB Transcend. That is why I returned mine. The only solution is to store more than 2MB of whatever you want on the 4GB SD Card before the camera application will even recognize it. The camera application only supports up to 2GB Cards from my experience.

hey cktlcmd, r u saying that if more then 2m are stored in the photo sub-folder then the camera works as normal ?
+ personal qu. aren't you a bit pissed that you can't use umts in new jersey ?

I think that he means 2GB.
Basically, if you try and store a number greater that 2GB (i.e., 33bit), in a 32bit integer, the number will be returned as negative when read back as a 32bit integer. The camera program must be converting the amount of free space to a 32bit integer, which is not a correct assumption to make, but this is microsoft.
I was wondering whether the flash could be partitioned to be two 2GB partitions and whether this would fix the problem. But, if the programmers were so lazy not to check the bounds on variable or that they are the correct types, then it would probably not be possible to see the second partition
Gareth

colonel said:
hey cktlcmd, r u saying that if more then 2m are stored in the photo sub-folder then the camera works as normal ?
+ personal qu. aren't you a bit pissed that you can't use umts in new jersey ?
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Coldpenguin is right.
Unfortunately, we have to accept our service providers' limitations.

Using 4Gb card for already few months and works great.
it is a 150X.
Of course, you can't use it to save pictures, but this is a pure software problem.
Patrick.

off topic, sry: hey patrick is there a umts network in Isr ?

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off topic, sry: hey patrick is there a umts network in Isr ?
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there is one, it's the Orange network.

So, can I confirm from you guys? Since I'm about to buy a 4GB SD Card, too.
1. Both Transend and Adata 4GB will work on Universal.
2. Only camera application cannot store directly to the SD Card, but if we have the SD Card filled up with more than 2 GB amount of data, then the camera can store files on it? Has anyone try it before, or its just an assumption?
Thanks in advance.

I can personally speak to the 4gb Transcend - works exactly as you described in #2. fill with at least 2gb and camera saving to card works fine.

Hey guys (&girls?)
DId anyone of you discovered the same problem as I did in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=269843#269843
I just tried the camera to save to the 4GB SD Card (Transcend x150) and had no problems with the two pictures I took.
Saved them directly to the Card in folder
SD-CARD-MyDocuments-EigeneBilder (288k / 270K per image @high res)
2881,66 MB Used 1068,34 MB Free
ROM Version: 1.30.96 Ger
ROM Date: 03/01/06
ProtokollVersion 42.42.P8
ExtROM 1.30.185 GER

Someone posted that the newest QTEK ROM fixes this 4GB Camera problem. I have this ROM installed in my device but I don't have a 4GB card to test on.
Just thought some of you guys would like to know.

Hello guys just got new Dash HELPZ

Well hey guys, im new to forums and just got the dash 3 days ago. I like it, but the lack of memory is not cool. 2GB maximum. When i first bought the phone, i put my old nokia 512mb MicroSd card in the phone to listen to songs and stuff, and put a movie. Then i needed more space so i went to buy a 8Gb for 24$, that didn't work, then i bought a 4GB that didn't work. Then i found out 2Gb is max. So i bought 2GB that also didn't work, this is pissing me off so much. I can only use my 512mb. And the 2GB is not enough either. Is thier any way to use 8GB? PLease HElp

antec900 said:
Well hey guys, im new to forums and just got the dash 3 days ago. I like it, but the lack of memory is not cool. 2GB maximum. When i first bought the phone, i put my old nokia 512mb MicroSd card in the phone to listen to songs and stuff, and put a movie. Then i needed more space so i went to buy a 8Gb for 24$, that didn't work, then i bought a 4GB that didn't work. Then i found out 2Gb is max. So i bought 2GB that also didn't work, this is pissing me off so much. I can only use my 512mb. And the 2GB is not enough either. Is thier any way to use 8GB? PLease HElp
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Yeah, install one of the ROMs located in this forum. Thats the only reliable way to use higher capacity sd cards. There is a SDHC cab floating around that will allow you to use a 4gb card in the stock Dash ROM but its not very reliable, sometimes it reads the card sometimes it does not. Best advice is to flash that Dash and open up the world of WM 6.1

yup, tahts what i did and now im happy using my 4 gig

I went to the t-mobile sight, and added the new update or something for my dash, it went throught a blue,green,red screen. I think it was a new rom. It says windows standard 6. Is that the newest 1? Did t-mobile even cmoe out with 6.1?

antec900 said:
I went to the t-mobile sight, and added the new update or something for my dash, it went throught a blue,green,red screen. I think it was a new rom. It says windows standard 6. Is that the newest 1? Did t-mobile even cmoe out with 6.1?
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Not Tmo USA, you updated to wm6, which you probably already had. You can get 6.1 here, I recommend Rickwatt's V24 with Opera.
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397845

Best microSDHC card

Hello!
I want to buy new microSDHC card to my phone and I'm wondering which one is the best.
There are three priorities for me:
- SDHC
- 4GB
- minimum class 6
I found TRANSCEND microSDHC 4GB Class 6 and SILICON POWER 4GB microSDHC CLASS 6. Which one is better? Or maybe you advice something else?

THere is a lot of disscussion about this in this forum. Please search

Sometimes it's hard to find sth when does not speak the native english. Can you please give me the link to this discussion or just post the answer?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553412&highlight=sdhc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416866&highlight=sdhc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493247&highlight=sdhc

Thanks! I've already studied thread nr 1 and 3 and nothing special there. Number 2 is 16GB and 32GB - I need just 4GB and not for WM but for Linux (ext4 and maybe one fat32 partition on it).

well if it's a pda device then it's interface cant keep up with even the normal card speeds
so high speed cards only really matter when you have it connected to a card reader connected to a computer

Rudegar said:
well if it's a pda device then it's interface cant keep up with even the normal card speeds
so high speed cards only really matter when you have it connected to a card reader connected to a computer
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So it's better to buy class 4 but 8GB that 4GB class 6?

i have not seen any difference personally between 4 & 6. so go for highest capacity.
i have used quite a few brands and all my cards now are sandisk. None of them have given me a problem.
most important thimg regarding performance is to make sure that its genunine. more than 85% of cards sold these days are duplicate.

michal_banszel said:
Thanks! I've already studied thread nr 1 and 3 and nothing special there. Number 2 is 16GB and 32GB - I need just 4GB and not for WM but for Linux (ext4 and maybe one fat32 partition on it).
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I don't know jack about linux or 'rooting' onto an sd card, but if I were going to do it, I would make sure that I got the highest quality card available. I've corrupted my 16 G card too many times (mostly my fault, lol) to trust it for running linux off of it. Get something hardy that won't become corrupted, like if the device freezes and you need to reset it. My guess is that you're better off with a smaller card (like the 4 GB one). I'd stay away from a big one if you don't need it.
Basically, it's a huge PITA when your card becomes hopelessly corrupted and you need to back it up and re-format it. I imagine it's a nightmare when your operating system is running off of said card when it becomes corrupted.

Farmer Ted said:
I don't know jack about linux or 'rooting' onto an sd card, but if I were going to do it, I would make sure that I got the highest quality card available. I've corrupted my 16 G card too many times (mostly my fault, lol) to trust it for running linux off of it. Get something hardy that won't become corrupted, like if the device freezes and you need to reset it. My guess is that you're better off with a smaller card (like the 4 GB one). I'd stay away from a big one if you don't need it.
Basically, it's a huge PITA when your card becomes hopelessly corrupted and you need to back it up and re-format it. I imagine it's a nightmare when your operating system is running off of said card when it becomes corrupted.
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That's right!
"most important thimg regarding performance is to make sure that its genunine. more than 85% of cards sold these days are duplicate."
what do you mean? TRANSCEND and SILICON POWER are genuine?

on my purpose,there ARE differences between class 4 and class 6 ,but there are to small differences in speed to pay the double price...I just using class2 Devices (on 3 PDA Phones,2 NDS and an PSP),i never felt there are to slow,yeah on PSP you really fell the difference between an MemoryStick Pro MkII and an Class2 Toshiba MicroSDHC,but for me personally it does not matter -the most of People buy Great Capacity Drives for Media Files right ? ....and Media Files like Movies,Mp3´s etc. running well on Class2 Cards!

Excuse me to say that...but SanDisk Sucks!
a lot of the Sandisk card have Chips from China
(i Don´t know on Class 4 or 6 Cards,but Class2 Card from Sandisk always have Chinese Chips....and there bullsh...)
Japanese Chips (like Cards from Kingston and Toshiba) are a lot better on speed and are a lot more reliable than Chinese Chips
I made my Experiences ,never by SanDisk....
just every Media Market have SanDisk- but that doesn´t mean there are really good..
I have Cards from Siemens,SanDisk,Kingston,Nokia,Toshiba and Motorola (Nokia,Siemens and Motorola are OEM- so i don´t know who produced them)) I have over 20! Cards between 64mb and 16gb---yeah and San Disk are the worst ..dood!
and there IS a Difference between Class4 and 6 Cards,but i think personally there are to less to pay the double Price for it
I have 3 PDA ,2 NDS and an PSP,all of them has Class 2 Cards and i never felt that there are to slow...most of the Devices on the market are to slow to feel the REAL Power of an Class6 Card!

[Q] Quick question on stock sd card size

Hi Guys,
I am having a problem loading some of the new 3.0 roms that are out now...and I was wondering if this might be the issue.
I have the stock SDCARD that came with my evo4g (8gb)...but when I insert it into a card holder in my PC, it only comes up as 5.67gb total. Even when I try to format it...it only says 5.67gb.
Is that normal?
Thanks!

The biggest problem with our SD cards is the type of card it is. our "class" is really low. they SHOULD have put real cards in our phones like class 10. I personally did test both on read and write speeds while in the phone and the class 10 was MUCH faster than the stock. get a 16GB.. btw, it'll never reach 8gb, or 16gb. it'll always be less.

runcool said:
The biggest problem with our SD cards is the type of card it is. our "class" is really low. they SHOULD have put real cards in our phones like class 10. I personally did test both on read and write speeds while in the phone and the class 10 was MUCH faster than the stock. get a 16GB.. btw, it'll never reach 8gb, or 16gb. it'll always be less.
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Yes, I understand all that...class, etc...and I know that after formatting it will not be 8gb due to 1024 equals 1gb...but 8gb down to 5.67gb? That seems a little low right?

no. because as soon as you format it and put it back onto the evo... it re-adds its stuff to the sdcard. and also.... the math isn't right. you forgot about the partition table which takes even more away. Depending on how you format it if it is fat32, NTFS, WinFS*I REALLY WISH MICROSOFT WOULD DO THIS! LOL* well, the size of the disk will change. well, I mean the amount you can use. oh and also the unit size can change it.

Do you have an ext partition on the card (for apps2sd)? That's the most likely place the extra space would go. The space you're seeing reported in Windows is the FAT32 partition.
If you don't think you have one, have you ever had one? If you thought you had gotten rid of it, it's also possible you didn't really get rid of it, depending on what you did. Just reformatting it in Windows won't get rid of it.
An 8GB (marketing) card will normally have about 7.45 GB of actual space. So you're missing roughly 1.75 GB.

[Q] SD Cards Burning Out

I have an unlocked Rogers Samsung Captivate Glide (i927R) running gingerbread (since Kies doesn't want to update it to ICS, and I haven't gotten around to rooting it), and it seems to be eating through SD cards. I had a 32gb micro SD card in there, but the phone decided to stop reading it after about a month and a half. Nothing else can read the card either; not my computer, not another phone, not even my camera can read the card. This is the second 32gb card it's happened to, and I'm starting to think that maybe it's my phone. When I have the card in the phone, it simply says "Unavailable" when I check under storage, although the phone can still read other SD cards.
Does anyone else have problems with this phone (i927R) killing SD cards? Am I simply just overloading the SD card, or is there some possibility that the phone is burning them out? Should I go for a 16gb card and see if it doesn't burn out, since smaller cards seem less likely to burn out?
Any help is appreciated.

I had 2
Shrubberer said:
I have an unlocked Rogers Samsung Captivate Glide (i927R) running gingerbread (since Kies doesn't want to update it to ICS, and I haven't gotten around to rooting it), and it seems to be eating through SD cards. I had a 32gb micro SD card in there, but the phone decided to stop reading it after about a month and a half. Nothing else can read the card either; not my computer, not another phone, not even my camera can read the card. This is the second 32gb card it's happened to, and I'm starting to think that maybe it's my phone. When I have the card in the phone, it simply says "Unavailable" when I check under storage, although the phone can still read other SD cards.
Does anyone else have problems with this phone (i927R) killing SD cards? Am I simply just overloading the SD card, or is there some possibility that the phone is burning them out? Should I go for a 16gb card and see if it doesn't burn out, since smaller cards seem less likely to burn out?
Any help is appreciated.
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What kind of cards did you use ? I had 2 corsair thumb drives go bad on me in mere weeks.. might be crap media .. I've used kingston and patriot no issues

yohan4ws said:
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What kind of cards did you use ? I had 2 corsair thumb drives go bad on me in mere weeks.. might be crap media .. I've used kingston and patriot no issues
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The last one that burned out was a Transcend, and I don't remember what the first one was. but I don't think it was a particularly high quality brand. I will be sure to get a better quality card next time.
Do you think downsizing to a 16gb card would reduce the chances of a burnout?

Shrubberer said:
The last one that burned out was a Transcend, and I don't remember what the first one was. but I don't think it was a particularly high quality brand. I will be sure to get a better quality card next time.
Do you think downsizing to a 16gb card would reduce the chances of a burnout?
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It's a crapshoot man ... I've had kingstons bad out of the box at a couple of sizes, the flash drives I had die were 16gb Corsair USB3's and rated with high speed..
just make sure you get a class 10 and read up on some reviews ... Newegg is really great for it, lookup the brand, price etc. and then to buy it at a local store and have them price match...
I should really get in the habit of backing up all the information on my phone more than once i run out of space
*EDIT* .. The current one I use is G.Skill 32GB .. Lifetime Warranty. Comes w/ full size SD adapter.