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[REQ] ROM with Manila 2D

Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!

Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )

i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.

it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?

o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...

Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices

I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?

Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.

RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!

It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.

Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)

simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.

The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!

avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you

Looking for the fastest manila 2d ROM

Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?

I would definutly recommend this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472178
its Team CV93+Oggi (CE OS 5.2.21014.1.6.0) Manila2D and there is a ultra-lite version, I have been using it for about a week (full ROM) and it is fast - stable and im sure the lite versions will be even faster.
Sorry I cant give more details

PDAViet TRINITY WM6.1 ROM V44 - Build 20748.1.4.0 (Manila2D) is mine tip, download and password is PhamQuang

Snake_A said:
Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?
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Hi Snake_A.
The simplest Manila2D ROM (i.e. with the lowest number of potentially not needed add ons) that I have found is nosedive's latest:
[ROM][WWE][4/2/2009]n073e+i (CE OS 5.2.20769 build20769.1.4.5) [ONLINE]
It's faster than any others I have tried and has no issues (apart from psshut not letting you turn the device competely off). Bear in mind that speed on any Rom will depend on what you add after the flash. Reducing the number of Manila2D tabs (using m2Dc customiser) and switching off Manila2D during use of applications like TomTom and Internet Exploring does help.
Chanvi's pre-Iolite/Footprint ones are excellent too, but have more add ons (which you may not need, depending on personal preference). (Chanvi leads the way in Iolite/Footprint experimentation, but so far they seem to use more memory than previous versions.)
Both the above cooks are very active in the Trinity forum and always answer any problems. There are other great cooks who are also opening doors with their work and well worth testing their Roms, but if you are after simplicity and stability, I recommend nosedive or chanvi at the moment.
Hope this helps you and others,
Mattster.

I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.

Mattster_spv said:
I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.
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try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!

philocritus said:
try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!
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Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.

Mattster_spv said:
Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.
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Mattster my friend, welcome back..
I have tried both 6.1 and 6.5 in various options. Summary:
1. 6.1 or 6.5 makes no difference as far as speed. It is all CPU/clocking dependent. they both slow down the same with heavy graphics, and suffer the same behavior. It's all in the hardware..
2. Size of page pool makes a difference for speeds. But it is a trade off between free RAM and speed. It is depending what your needs are. again- 6.1 or 6.5 is not making a difference . Some claim 6.5 is slower, but really in order to say that one needs to compare apples with apples. two different ROMS are , by definition, apple and orange.
3. Try WM6.5 by Chanvi. Give it 72 hours before you give up on the bee hive you hate. After you get used to it, and to the slick movement of it, you will have hard time going back to the dull WM6.1 menus.
4. You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
5. Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE

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...You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE
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Hi bigE.
Thanks for the feedback. Most informative as always, and much appreciated. Funny you should mention the "Dirty Harry" look. I am somewhat famous for it in the office, and I tend to chew on my stylus continually...
On holiday, I had Manila2d and spb shell both turned off, and as a result I now find it irritatingly slow going back to them! I'll follow your suggestion this weekend: home2 with WM6.5 IE6Ultralite.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.

Best ROM that I ever have tested (and I have tested a lot of them) is:
[ROM][WWE] Windows Mobile 6.1 5.2.20270.1.3.1 Ver. 0.4.7.5 (Updated: 2009.04.04) by osavioro
Memory foot print with Home, Messages, E-mail, Settings and Programs tabs enabled in Manila2D:
Storage:
Total: 43.67MB
In Use: 23.67MB
Free: 20.00 MB
Program:
Total: 48.68MB
In Use: 29.56MB
Free: 19.12MB
iGO8 works like a charm. Fast with lot of usefull applications. Dont forget to install Manila customizer so you can disable unwanted tabs and save some memory.
No problems at all.

Mattster_spv said:
Hi bigE.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.
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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
bigE

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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
bigE
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I gave up on home2 since it sucked the battery dry in one day! plus it was a very memory hungry app... maybe just maybeeeee i'll return to it when that exe is stable.
miss home1 btw... 1.2 was in my opinion on of the best UI around, and still is my favorite behind m2d

21-Feb 09/ Another BETA WM6.5 V39 from PDAViet "Mr. Pham Quang"

Version BETA-WM6.5 ROM V39 for HTC Artemis & Love:
- Development based on V38 introduced.
- Integration and change the appropriate OEM from HTC Iolita
- Change the XIP and SYS from WM6.5 Beta (Build 21159.5.0.0) is collected from sources ROM from XBETA.
- The featured WM6.5 as MS has introduced in recent years.
This is a TEST version of the ROM, not integrated Manila2D, featured for WM6.5 include, but added:
- HTC Album
- HTC Audio Manager
and applications of others.
link:http://rs568.rapidshare.com/files/200389629/ARTE_WM6.5__3_15_122_39.rar
passwordhamQuang

Downloading, will flash tonight..

I have great respect for Mr Phang Quang and PDAVIET.
I will see how this compares to DJ 6.5 m2d. Big thanks.

wrong password
The rar file is not accepting the given password.

try PhamQuang

wrong password
Thanks! it worked.

Installing right now. In 20 min. I will post feedback

Stable of all the 6.5 Versions
This version looks to be more stable off all the other 3 versions of 6.5.
Keyboard is Very Pathetic. I liked the Keyboard used by Achilles.
And camera version is older version that Achilles ROM.
Also the Media Players Plays each song for 40secs Only then jumPs to next song.
Need to Edit registry for running the Audio Manager when Screen Is off.
Battery Drains of very Fast. Not even one day......

It's not usable, slow very slow for me

this rom is too slow for me

mobile error
hi i have to say nice rom i had to overclock mine to 273 then it run sweet as a nut but the sim manager needs seeing to as when i wanted to put my contacts from sim to phone it only seen afew of them so i tryed to refresh and then it comes up with mobile error everytime please sort this out thanks i think this rom is very good just alittle bug thanks for the work

can't install.
the colored screen apears and then it sais that the phone is not conected.

htc_diak said:
can't install.
the colored screen apears and then it sais that the phone is not conected.
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I'm flashing this rom. did you take out your sim card and TF card of your phone?

no. i never did that when flashing.

Plz upload this rom other than Rapidshare.com

marsel said:
this rom is too slow for me
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guys and gals,
not to tick you off,
but i for sure am an old artemis freak, even having tried an iphone 2g the last week, I honestly have to say meschles vanilla 4.02 is the one and only fast, stable and simply usable rom i have tried upto now - all m2d roms are sluggish in comparison- espacially when runnung tomtom7, all wm 6.5 rom-regardless of the radio rom used- drain my p330 within 2days, where under vanilla4.02 i run a solid 7 days routine...
so as i posted in my plea-thread-- any bare 6.5 rom upto beating 4.02?
greetz

Nice rom!
This rom is better than others windows 6.5...
Sorry for my english!

This Rom has lovely looking menus and window effects, but this contributes to heavy use of RAM and some slow-downs. Unfortunately, changing a theme seemed to lose these lovely menus.
The Titanium plugin works well, particularly with a changed background.
A good keyboard and dialler.
Shame about the old camera.
Lovely Icons.
The Honeycomb programs selector will take some getting used to, if it does become the Standard.
This could have been a contender to DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL if it wasn't for RAM issues and slow-downs.

iDoktor said:
Nice rom!
This rom is better than others windows 6.5...
Sorry for my english!
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Hello,
what Includes this ROM?

RS is kinna hssle here, looking for mirrors, plz.

best and most stable rom WM6, 6.1, 6.5 ?? Opinions please

I am a bit of a newb to the hermes and was wondering what is the best/most stable rom for wm6.?? (I'm on orange UK by the way)
Would appreciate any opinions and links to the roms.
I have spent ages reading through various posts but keep getting lost/confused.
I have done the hard spl upgrade and have a sd card ready for the upgrade. Now it's the big question of which rom.
Would like one that is ready to go with most of the basics already there rather than one of the really lite ones I think, but not sure which would be best ?
I probably should say it's an M3100
Thanks in advance....steve

Which one that is best for you, might not be the one that is best for someone else. Each cook has their own style.
Try several, I would suggest CRC's, Tai's, Josh's, or kareme's
You really will have to try several to see what fits you best.
I have not tried any of the 6.5 roms out, mainly because it seems there are still bugs to be worked out.

Don't bother with WM6
There's not really that significant a jump from WM5 - and you can get an official WM6 ROM!
IMHO 6.1 is the way to go, for now...

Spoiler Alert!!
Umm.. I've been trying the WM 6.5 Version XXX76 from Tai... I am mighty impressed... I thot it'd need lots of ram to keep 6.5 running.. this is fast man... 6.5 though there are no paradigm shifts from 5,6 or 6.1... even the beta seems better that 6.1...
currently my rnaking would be
1. 6.5 ( I am liking waht I am seeing.. this is the speed king... 76 fro TAI is stable as any other ROM)
2. 6 (faster... than most of the other Versions and not plain as 5
3. 6.1 (lots of fixes on this but slow.. slow...slow)

WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!

joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.

joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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thanks josh... for your warning...

There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying
I just bought a 8525 for $125 USD. It's awesome. I first settled on one of Schap's ROMS - Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
It was really nice but now it is sadly behind the times. There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying:
1 21189_Lite_V9_Update1
2 21193_Lite_V10
I installed the 1st and stopped there because it is so awesome. The Hermes no longer has to hide in the shadows of all the new $600 Pda/phones out there.
One thing about 6.5 is that there is no "programs" section per se in the titanium feature(?). So I went to a SPBplus4 Today Screen.
It's much more convenient for accessing fexplorer and task mgr.I did do an auto hide on the tabs and minimized the icons so it would look like one of the newer phones. Appreciate all the hard work everyone put in.
My ROM request (if anyone's interested) is for a full featured 6.5 -something like K's ROM with TAI's finesse dominating - BUT without IE or OFFICE or WM built in. I am surprised all the great cooks include these. I have found Skyfire, TCPMP work great and I don't need Office at all.
And the START MENU sections on the 6.5 should go directly to the same categories as before except more like :
Programs, SYSTEM Settings, Connection Settings, Personal Settings, TODAY settings, TOOLS (regedit, fexplore, taskmgr), GAMES, PICTURES, VIDEOS, MUSIC, AND the option to add or customize your own AND be able to have it show before Programs, and stay there after a SR!
I am a newbie but I know what I want. Thanks again to all the cooks for making carrying a phone everywhere exciting and useful and for showing the big companies how to really do it. They keep putting out these improved ROMs (performance-wise) but they have no idea what to do with them.
Jupiter and Titan from AZ USA.

I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?

bailey7 said:
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

I am still using binky11 as it was 5 or six month,,so stable,,,,
I love manilla2d, but it is not stable until right now
thanks

Try Josh M2D ROM..
Its nice, fast and stable
thanks JOsh

bugmenot20090308 said:
What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.

I personally like Tai_SW's 21109 rom. It seems to be really stable though that could be because its a hybrid WM6.1/WM6.5 rom.
Have 2 Hermes, on my main I use 21109 but test others on my "spare"...
I don't tend to like the Hex or titanium roms as the RAM is low and storage space seems to abot 45Mb or less while I use about 50 Mb for the apps I like. I need to have as much RAM as possible too so I don't end up with system freezes when I run a REALLY RAM hungry app.
Cheers...

binky11 is the most stable ever, but it will be the perfect rom when manill2d them inside.
PERFECT
thanks

Tai_SW's wm6.1 lite roms are superb, fast, stable, & lot's of free memory!!

zack_rains said:
Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore

I use DarkWinter2 from Josh and it works fine for me.

PDAViet DVH_V27... I have tried other ROMS - some of them really nice, but there was always something, which made me to go back to DVH_V27.. too bad this guy does not cook for hermes anymore..

ntha82 said:
Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
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Not neccesary. I tried one day 6.5 Josh rom (GS or else edition), but it was lagging, so I re-flased it the same day. Now I'm using Josh V15 colored 3G and is wonderful

Is the hermes powerful enough to run WM 6.5?

I've tried a few versions and the phone just crawls. Is the phone even able to run WM 6.5 at a decent speed or should I just give up and stick with 6.1.
Thanks!

Are there any vanilla 6.5 roms I can try on the Hermes?

Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...

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Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...
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and i'll try the other tai_Sw v27 manila2d rom and it works good for me...

It runs Tai's Herov3 but you will find yourself running out of memory all too quickly. If you want a smooth running phone with as little problems as possible then stick to 6.1.
If a stripped down, barebones 6.5.3 ROM appears I think it will be able to run that o.k.

I've been following with most of the developers here, the last stable 6.5 i can get on my phone was - WP6.5 Build 23016 WWE SAYANGKU V6.9. Anything after that, my phone will freeze.

I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....

I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.

Same issues, went back to 6.1

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I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....
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HTC X-button doesn't work with Hero3. I don't know a close button app that does work because of where the new 'x' button is.
Just using normal stuff like Coreplayer, OperaMini, etc. If I don't use SKTools Free Ram or Oxios I eventually, after a day or so get the 'out of memory' normally when starting the Comm Mananger.
If I want run IGO8 I have disable the today screen and then flush the memory on restart, this gives me around 23Mb free.

The new Showcase (search in the forums here) works for the 6.5.x builds (as a task manager).

is better to use the new xtask
it dont make slow your SMS app

Or the new ArkSwitch, which I prefer .

indiekiduk said:
vanilla 6.5
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Thats New

MindphaserXY said:
I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.
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I see you read very well congrats to you! can you teach all this guys why 6.5 is not so good for our old hermes... pleeeease!!!

dark vision
darkvbisions is the fastest for me i put spb mobile sheel on it at first i thought it was going to crawl like u said but its quite fast, but i install on my starage card

for closing the application you need to use showcase suite, it's the only one that work for me

wm 6.5 is very slow with hermes. memory issues freeze the phone a lot. i looking for decent stable 6.1 now

go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.

kashifmehmood said:
go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.
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I have to agree with that. The latest Mobile Shell is 3.5.x also add Expresso Theme.