Hi guys,
The trackball on my Orbit has stopped recognising being rolled up, left or right, and the silver clickwheel is stiff. Is this repairable myself, or should I be looking at a new motherboard?
Cheers,
Nick
hey dontpannic, don't panic
at least not too hard.
It is possible to exchange the trackball unit. You can sell a new one on the internet (I bought one via eBay, it was in your country and very cheap) Allthough, it is kind of hard to get the old unit out of your phone. You will have to totally apart your phone, because the trackball unit is stick to the daughterboard which is behind the LCD
There are a number of guides to help you apart your phone, you can find it somewhere on this forum. Once apart, you can blow the dust out and uncover your current trackball (mine was kind of hidden ) Or you can get the whole trackball off the board and replace it.
(I should note I got my phone apart couple of times, so have some experience. It can be tricky)
ciao!
I agree with amfasis, it can be tricky but gets very easy once you've done it a couple of times and know what to expect (how much force to apply separating parts...)
Everything on the daughterboard is pretty open under the cover so I suspect something sticky got dripped in there (cola?) from the symptoms you mention.
I thought I had a problem with my daughterboard as well since I was getting random scrolling action in all applications, but it turned out I had some dirt stuck on the side of the screen giving a bad signal on the touchscreen.
I took apart my whole trackball and even took the silver cover off the silver scroll wheel toggle and took out the tiny spring... that was an adventure getting it all back together correctly after cleaning!
I chalk all of it up to an excellent learning experience and now have no fear of taking it all apart just to look at it again. You will too.
Good luck!
Thanks guys! Will give this a try and see what happens
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Anyone that has the xda2s, are you having problems with the slide down keyboard? Mine has gradually worked loose and seems very unstable. The top part of the device rocks side to side , and sometimes gets stuck when opening and makes nasty cruching noice ---- Its starting to worry me, anyone got any good tips?
Thanks
Mike
Just send it to service, not much else to do.
Ok, since posting this i found a topic about opening the XDA2s up and fiddleing around to tighten it up. Does anyone know how easy this process is? Seems quite scary and am not sure whther i should attempt this....
It's only scary the first time. Once you're not a virgin anymore, you'll feel comfortable doing it over and over again. Just don't turn into a slut .
Some things to consider. Use the correct tools for the job. Once the screws get stripped, your SOL. Oh, don't be such in a hurry to take it apart once you get the screws out. Remember to take pics, or if you are good with memory, remember where everything was originally placed. Especially the screws. Had to slap myself a few times for not remembering the screw placement.
i just had my housing recently replaced coz i dropped and scratched it. the keyboard frame + the backside of the front face is considered under warranty. the repair center diagnosed its looseness as "faulty mechanical".
Execellent, in that case im sending mine back so they can fix it! Better than cocking things up my-self!
I'm thinking of replacing the housing on my SPVM2000...found a guy selling housings on ebay and just wanted to know if any1 here found any links on disasembling the blueangel? TIA
Hi There,
I have disassembled many devices over the years, and no matter how delicate you are with them, always keep in mind that most of them were never designed to take the stresses and strains of being dismantled.
Chances are too that you might nick a ribbon cable or worse, the board and turn your device into a pretty looking paper weight.
I live by the rule of "if its not broke, dont fix it."
If you do happen to go ahead with it then I wish you the very best of luck!
Whiterat said:
always keep in mind that most of them were never designed to take the stresses and strains of being dismantled
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i live by the rule: "if it has screws - unscrew it and dismantle!"
almost every electronic device can be dismantled easliy... im not pro-uber-electronic but ive dismantled many electronic devices of all kind, including every phone/pocketpc that i ever had and i never had any problems with putting them back alive... just remember to be careful with mainboard, extremally careful with display and treat well the display cable/tape
ouch... and try not to damage the guarantee sticker... or get one on ebay
white screen
hi,
i tried opening my Pda2k as it was having a sound of a broken peice inside after a free fall to the ground, well, i got the tiny broken peice out, but now i have a white screen with no display, it seems the the pda is working well but there is no display,
i tried several times to plug the Screen plug into its socket but no way, sometimes it gets display but for a second then vanish .
any help from those who have done this several times ??
Using my htc device suddenly touch screen went off and i could'nt use the stylus at all. The strange thing is that all of the other keys are working good. I tried hard reset the device but nothing happened. Now im stuck in the screen "tap the sreen to set up your windows mobile based device. Can anyone please help? Before the appearence of the above problem i was using google maps, if this helps.
many thanks
Does t have a crack in it? If so then it needs changing, if not then probably the ribbon has come out. Is it under warranty?
no there is nt any crack! everything was good and suddenly while i was tapping to check some maps, stopped.
Sorry for asking but ribbon is that thing above the screen? Is it possible to come out so soon? (6 months). and finally does the warranty covers ribbon change?
Sorry for the above questions but i really dont know what to do!
many thanks
call the company where you buy it from and ask them
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no there is nt any crack! everything was good and suddenly while i was tapping to check some maps, stopped.
Sorry for asking but ribbon is that thing above the screen? Is it possible to come out so soon? (6 months). and finally does the warranty covers ribbon change?
Sorry for the above questions but i really dont know what to do!
many thanks
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If it's only 6 mths old it shoud be under warranty, so take it back to the place you ought it.
If you are determined to try to fix it yourself you have to do the following.
Remove the battery cover & battery.
Remove the 4 small screws
Remove the back-case by running your fingernail round the gap (hard 1st time then easy after that)
Remove 4 more screws
Remove front-case from the middle
Remove the motherboard assembly from the front case and unplug the screen/digitiser assembly, carefully pull that off the motherboard (again not easy 1st time).
You will now see the small digitiser ribbon at the bottom coming off the digitiser and disappearing into the bottom of the screen. It's very easy to take out and not easy to put back in. I use some flat-bladed tweezers to do mine but sometimes it takes a couple of tries. Obviously it's much easier if you are fitting a new digitiser because it's not fixed to the screen like yours will be. If you try to remove the digitiser chances are you will crack it. I re-fitted mine after removing my broken one by using thin cut strips of double-sided tape.
Before you do anything else, just clean with sharp knive or razor between the screen and the cover.You will be surprised how much rubish is is in there.
this things are keeping the screen pressed.
Hope it helps
many thanx 4 the instrustions guys. i'll try that. if everything ok i'll inform you. if not i'll give you my bank account number to deposit money in order to buy a new one.
many thanx again
i've got this big ass crack on my display last night. the touchfunction dosn't work so I can't press my PINcode to access the telephone. how, where and how much can i replace the display?
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i've got this big ass crack on my display last night. the touchfunction dosn't work so I can't press my PINcode to access the telephone. how, where and how much can i replace the display?
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The best price I've seen for the touchscreen is on ebay. But, there are a few catches...
First issue: There are two different LCD/touchscreen assemblies that were used on the angel. One is made by Sony, the other by Toppoly. The touchscreen or LCD from one can not be used on the other due to programming and physical layout.
Second issue (and this is probably the biggest): The way they touch screen and the LCD are connected is a major pain in the arse to fix. It's a plastic ribbon cable that has been soldered to a point on another ribbon cable. Unless you are very good at soldering, it's not something I'd attempt due to the largish chance of melting the cables and making things worse, not to mention the potential to hurt the LCD itself.
If you look in the wiki under the hacks and tweaks, the Technical Stuff (including disassembly) link has two pages to look at:
Blue Angel/PPC6600 Disassembling Procedure with Pictures
Blue Angel Spare Screen
While they are not the best pictures, the last image under the disassembling section shows the ribbon cables I'm referring to, and the touchscreen assembly picture for the spare screen page shows a sony touchscreen ribbon cable detached from the LCD cable, which will show the connection points I'm referring to.
I've got this exact issue as well on my O2 branded angel. Due to the cost of a new LCD/touchscreen assembly (almost the cost of a working angel), I'm considering trying to solder a new touchscreen. If I ruin it, well, I've got parts for the next one I get.
I replaced a touch sreen today, its not that bad if you have soldered before. Unfortunatly the screen i got of ebay is not perfect and will need replacing. I have contacted the seller to see if he will send me another one.
Its worth doing!
Gary
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I replaced a touch sreen today, its not that bad if you have soldered before. Unfortunatly the screen i got of ebay is not perfect and will need replacing. I have contacted the seller to see if he will send me another one.
Its worth doing!
Gary
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I've soldered plenty of times (a bit out of practice tho), but never something like that.
Any tips and suggestions? My main worry is melting the ribbon cables.
Well, no real tips, just take you time and don't rush it. The plastic can stand quite a bit of heat, i never managed to melt it, The job looks harder that it realy is. you will need a steady hand! Also , taping the connector down before you solder helps.
Gary
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Well, no real tips, just take you time and don't rush it. The plastic can stand quite a bit of heat, i never managed to melt it, The job looks harder that it realy is. you will need a steady hand! Also , taping the connector down before you solder helps.
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Ok, that's good to know. The plastic didn't look all that durable, but if it's stouter than it looks, I may check with the house controller (aka CFO aka my wife ) and see if we can spare the dosh to pick one up.
I have to be careful as she wants it once it's fixed!
how do i separate touch screen and lcd? i only need to solder the new touch screen, right?
any help? thanks
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how do i separate touch screen and lcd? i only need to solder the new touch screen, right?
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There is a disassembly guide in the wiki.
What kind of screwdrivers are needed to remove those tiny screws on the LCD/ digitizer casing. I have 2 SX66's with broken LCDs and one with a broken digitizer. Time for some repairs.
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The best price I've seen for the touchscreen is on ebay. But, there are a few catches...
First issue: There are two different LCD/touchscreen assemblies that were used on the angel. One is made by Sony, the other by Toppoly. The touchscreen or LCD from one can not be used on the other due to programming and physical layout.
Second issue (and this is probably the biggest): The way they touch screen and the LCD are connected is a major pain in the arse to fix. It's a plastic ribbon cable that has been soldered to a point on another ribbon cable. Unless you are very good at soldering, it's not something I'd attempt due to the largish chance of melting the cables and making things worse, not to mention the potential to hurt the LCD itself.
If you look in the wiki under the hacks and tweaks, the Technical Stuff (including disassembly) link has two pages to look at:
Blue Angel/PPC6600 Disassembling Procedure with Pictures
Blue Angel Spare Screen
While they are not the best pictures, the last image under the disassembling section shows the ribbon cables I'm referring to, and the touchscreen assembly picture for the spare screen page shows a sony touchscreen ribbon cable detached from the LCD cable, which will show the connection points I'm referring to.
I've got this exact issue as well on my O2 branded angel. Due to the cost of a new LCD/touchscreen assembly (almost the cost of a working angel), I'm considering trying to solder a new touchscreen. If I ruin it, well, I've got parts for the next one I get.
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Hey MATE!! damn why didnt i ask this before!!!
i have the o2 xda IIs.. same problem, display works fine.. but tapping doesnt! after it was dropped!
Now, i got a guy to get a spare MDA T-mobile (blueangel) which doesnt work, but its lcd/touchscreen works.. i connected that LCD to my O2, it didnt WORK! how can i differentiate b/w the two LCDS?
i mean, how can i know that the LCD is made by Toppoly or Sony?! that'd be a great HELP!
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i mean, how can i know that the LCD is made by Toppoly or Sony?! that'd be a great HELP!
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Part numbers on the back or the cable design.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
TD035STED1
this is the code written behind my LCD. I have the O2 XDA IIs.
Is there anything else I need to look at aswell? or should I just buy a LCD with that code?!
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TD035STED1
this is the code written behind my LCD. I have the O2 XDA IIs.
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Interesting. Looks like the LCD used varies depending on when the phone was made.
My O2 has the Sony LCD.
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Is there anything else I need to look at aswell? or should I just buy a LCD with that code?!
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Cables and the wiki. The link I posted shows the difference between the two.
And yes, you will have to get the same LCD assembly/glass cover as what you have now. The two are not interchangeable.
There is a tool set you can purchase at radioshack that has the proper tip. Its a cheaply made tool but does the job. It is one of the kits with many bits. It would be the star tip. You can also order the tool online. I've taken mine apart a few times. Its sort of a pain but gets easier the more times you do it (replaced my screen three times). I have however, never been able to get the touch to work again because I can't really see how I would be able to solder such a fine ribbon. Ive had my mogul for almost a year and if my memory serves me the metallic strips are only about an 1/8th of an inch thick or less. I got lazy and put a piece of tape across the ribbon and put a small amount of glue to hold it down. Still didnt work. Didn't really expect it to either, but it was worth a shot. I turned it into insurance said I lost it and ended up with a broken 6600 and when I called to complain they sent me a mogul. So it's been awhile but I loved the phone. Hope this helps out.
dont scare the people
it can be replaced in 15 minutes with proper tools (screwdrivers)
i ve found some russian manual with pictures how to disasemble the BA (just look for it on the net) and its very easy, no need for soldering
there are 2 versions of displays, one have silver ribbon and the other have golden
when you opet your BA you ll see the display and the ribbon, also there is serial number of the display so you can check it too... all BA displays on the ebay have info about the ribbon and the serial number
I bought it for about 30$ and works perfectly, as original one...
buy digitizer and screen in one piece
you have to be total noob to have problems with changing of the display, so go for it !
If you are planning to replace the digitiser YES you do need to some fine soldering, all you need is the correct soldering iron tip for fine soldering and it is possible, done it about 4 times so far and everytime I promise myself not to brake it again but hahaha,
You can buy the LCD + digitiser together if you are unable to do soldering,
I use a razor which i took out from my shaver and thats what I use to seperate digitiser from lcd.
There are very cheap digitiser panels on EBAY, However some of these are not so good and ( digitiser is a 2 layer glass assy.) sometimes little area of this 2 layers stick together making touch screen non responsive.
Alternative is look out for spares, repairs sales if the screen is good buy it replace it, if you are a novice when it comes to these things, just take your time and dont rush it, even if it helps make little notes when you are opning the device as it ll make it easy when it comes to puting it back together.
And if you can get your hands on one keep a spare screen
Im sooo sad
I just cracked my screen I really hope I get a replacement cus I got more attached to my BA ever since I found out I could upgrade it. I thought it was not a biggie crashing it because I have dropped so many times and nothing happened but today something happened...
screen is 30$ at ebay, and no need to be sad, in few days it can be fixed
So I got this nice (albeit beat-up, but 100% functional) G2 from a friend, and for about 3 weeks it had no problems. I rooted it, put CyanogenMod 7.2 on it, worked fine.
About 3 days ago, it started behaving really weird while I was using it. Interfaces not responding, at times opening things when I didn't have my finger on the screen, usual possessed phone behavior) I did some investigating with the Developer Tools' Pointer Location display, and there's this massive dead-zone on my digitizer! The dead-zone (while holding the phone in landscape) goes from X=255.1 to X=401.1, and covers all the Y-values in that range. if I move my finger slowly enough through the deadzone from one fo the sides of it, it will register as being directly in the center of it. Other times it will show a very light touch on the right side of the zone, activating interface elements and the like.
What happened? Do I have to replace the digitizer? I don't have a warranty on it, seeing as I got it second-hand. Possible fixes, if it's not a serious hardware issue?
I don't have money to spare, so buying things to fix it might take a lot of saving.
EDIT: Got it in the mail finally, replaced it in 45 minutes. I had to use the dorm's heated-air hand-dryer to get it off, and I kinda messed up the glue a bit, but it's working just fine.
If you have to replace the digitizer, I would not worry. I just got done replacing the lcd on my G2, and it works. I bought the lcd (in your case it would be a digitizer) off ebay and my purchased also included the screw drivers and plastic tip thingy to open the phone. For the digitizer you might need to also get double sided tape.
There is a youtube video showing how to take a part and put back the phone. I think the video was like 30min, but when I did it, the time was 1.5hrs totally.
good luck if you go that route.
Previous post is spot on, for most people I would assume this won't be a hard task, I have opened and repaired dozens of g2s (and many other phones) and although sliders tend to be the most complicated its really straight forward
Find a YouTube video or other instructions online and look at it ahead of time to see if its something you feel comfortable with. Then if so, order the digitizer (90% this is the cause 10% the main flex) for around 15-20$ and all you need is a #0 Philips and a t5 torx and a hairdryer/heat gun
You won't need tape as there is more than enough sticky left after prying of the digitizer. Expect about that hour in half if your new to this, but can be done in less than 20 if you do it a lot Here is a link to info on your phone including repair guides
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43195539
Best of luck!
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Aw. Was hoping this wouldn't be the solution.
That sucks. Just went and ordered one, it came with screwdrivers and the prying tool, but I don't have any double-sided tape. Let's hope it's still sticky. Well, it supposedly gets here on the 9th, so I'll read up on replacing from these links. Thanks for the support. Hope I don't break the thing. :/