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Does using Clear Storage delete my Call Timers?

Does anyone know if the Clear Storage will actually reset the total call timer? It says that its supposed to revert back to factory settings. But i'd like to be safer than sorry.
Thanks

i don't know about it for sure, but i did clear storage yesterday and i installed my trinity with the new rom and it did erase the call timers

GLO said:
Does anyone know if the Clear Storage will actually reset the total call timer? It says that its supposed to revert back to factory settings. But i'd like to be safer than sorry.
Thanks
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By clear storage do you mean your sd card ?
If yes, it won't clear your call timer.
If you mean hard reset, then yes it will erase all datas. But you can do a pimbackup and you'll restore it again.

mbon said:
i don't know about it for sure, but i did clear storage yesterday and i installed my trinity with the new rom and it did erase the call timers
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Really? I was told that Clear Storage is just a hard reset - which shouldn't affect the call time which is stored somewhere else in the eeprom....

ww2250 said:
Really? I was told that Clear Storage is just a hard reset - which shouldn't affect the call time which is stored somewhere else in the eeprom....
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You are right. the call timers never go zero, even after flash.
Maybe there is some special thing that can erase them

For completly reset the call timer's you have to install Olipro hard-spl 1.30 based on an MFG and have rtask commands enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1188555&postcount=1
After that go to mtty and:
rtaskb
ate1
atv1
[email protected]=270f,270f
You have to see:
OK
retuoR
task8 (for reset the device, or press the reset button)
After that the call timer's in device information have to be at zero!
If you whant to reset it in the os to you have to delete all the keys in:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\CumulativeCallTimers\Line_0
Thank's.

ausdim said:
For completly reset the call timer's you have to install Olipro hard-spl 1.30 based on an MFG and have rtask commands enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1188555&postcount=1
After that go to mtty and:
rtaskb
ate1
atv1
[email protected]=270f,270f
You have to see:
OK
retuoR
task8 (for reset the device, or press the reset button)
After that the call timer's in device information have to be at zero!
If you whant to reset it in the os to you have to delete all the keys in:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\CumulativeCallTimers\Line_0
Thank's.
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Hi Ausdim,
Do i have to do the whole lot or does that mean that if i only do the registry hack, and the timer will be zero?
Thanks

GLO said:
Hi Ausdim,
Do i have to do the whole lot or does that mean that if i only do the registry hack, and the timer will be zero?
Thanks
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If you do just the registry trick the the call timer's will be reset but only at the os.
It is like when you flash a new rom.
But in the device information the call timer's will be the same.
Thank's

ahhhhhh ic maybe my call timer is set back to 0 because i installed olipro 1.2.. or maybe u can do the registry.. but i don't know how...
cheers

If i do the whole lot will i loose my Network settings? (the handset is unlocked from the Network supplier)

Hard Reset?

Hi all...
My Blue Angel wont hard reset. I just bought it second hand and have been trying to hard reset it. I read up and the instructions are to keep the power button pressed while resetting with the stylus. But no matter how many times I tried, this procedure only soft resets the device. Please help!

Try it the software way by going to start>settings>system>clear storage>1234>ok.

kareem9nba said:
Try it the software way by going to start>settings>system>clear storage>1234>ok.
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Hi buddy.. thanks so much for the reply... but its not working.. tapping on the clear storage icon in settings does not bring up the password screen or do anything at all

wat are my other options people... pls help

anybody??????

i think you make wrong HardReset.
for Hard Reset a BA just press RECORD+CAMERA/PLAYER+SOFT RESET 2 sec. and walaahhh.... there you go.., You'll see three options on screen. You must change the second and the third to yes. If you are not developing/testing software you can disable the first debug option for better performance.
have a nice reset

Stevo.Mksr said:
i think you make wrong HardReset.
for Hard Reset a BA just press RECORD+CAMERA/PLAYER+SOFT RESET 2 sec. and walaahhh.... there you go.., You'll see three options on screen. You must change the second and the third to yes. If you are not developing/testing software you can disable the first debug option for better performance.
have a nice reset
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Thank you soooo much Stevo... Ur method worked... I wonder why the wiki itself has the wrong method for hard reset... Maybe the hard reset varies from brand to brand... although it should not be since the hardware essentially is the same... Anyways... Hopefully one of the moderators would read this thread and add your method to the wiki...
Million thanks again...

I get that 3 choice screen, but how to I get it to hard-reset AFTER that? If I hit the soft-reset I get the same thing I have gotten for the whole day before. :-(

on the screen must be shown
enable kitl :choose no
clear registry hive : choose yes
format storage : choose yes
change it using the record and camera button.. after that use the mail button to proceed the hard reset

evoluzionne said:
on the screen must be shown
enable kitl :choose no
clear registry hive : choose yes
format storage : choose yes
change it using the record and camera button.. after that use the mail button to proceed the hard reset
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tried the above but unable to press enter using mail button to initiate rebootin. pls help

Procedure works as advertised
I also was scratching my head over the Hard Reset info in the Wiki not working. This procedure did the trick. Thanks for the help!
Also, for the poster who had trouble with the Mail button not initiating a reboot, just hold it until you get an all white screen, that's what I did and it worked like a charm!

Hard Reset Big Thank Q
Hi every1, the step does work & i would like to thks those who has shared there thought with all.
juz press the "mail" button for about 3 miniutes & you shud see a totally white blankscreen & then it will bring you to formatted WM6. whatever u install previously will be wipe out.
After i hv tried various method.Honestly, this is the only method work to overcome "EXTREME FROZED WM6".
Thks to XDA developer community for sharing.
Just curious, any1 know wat mig hv cause the "EXTREME FROZED WM6"?
Have a nice day every1.
RGds

Thks mysteroid,
For making me holdin on to d "Mail" button. It really works. Brilliant.
Have a nice day.

Consolidated Solution
To the next member whois searchin for a solution here it is:
Problem:My O2 XDAiis won't hard reset. WM6 deep FROZED.
Solution: Extreme Hard Reset a XDAiis just press RECORD+CAMERA+SOFT RESET 2 sec. and walaahhh.... there you go.., You'll see three options on screen. Then use RECORD+CAMERA/PLAYER button to change the value on the setting.
Setting: on the screen must shown
enable kitl :choose no
clear registry hive : choose yes
format storage : choose yes
Finally: use the mail button(act as enter) to proceed the hard reset. U might need to press & hold it for 3minutes.
Kudos to original contributor :Stevo.Mksr(for method) , evoluzionne(for setting) & mysteroid(for keepin the faith).

WM6 deep FROZED -> check/replace your battery

Pocket Loox N560 stuck on boot screen. Won't start up

Does anybody know if there is a way to boot N560 using SD card? I think I killed my FS with some "rom killer" and all I get now is FS boot screen, no other activities.
Any way to start it from SD card and flash it from there?
Perhaps any other way to bring it back to life?

i have the same problem
is there anybody for help???
SOS please

Eenigmaa said:
Does anybody know if there is a way to boot N560 using SD card? I think I killed my FS with some "rom killer" and all I get now is FS boot screen, no other activities.
Any way to start it from SD card and flash it from there?
Perhaps any other way to bring it back to life?
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You cannot burn the ROM from an SD card.
If the device has had the anti-theft password set at some stage then you cannot reburn the ROM! This might be the problem?
A hard reset on the N560 followed by running the Loox burn program on a PC with ActiveSync connection to the N560 cradle is the only answer i.e. a normal ROM burn.

fingerstoo said:
You cannot burn the ROM from an SD card.
If the device has had the anti-theft password set at some stage then you cannot reburn the ROM! This might be the problem?
A hard reset on the N560 followed by running the Loox burn program on a PC with ActiveSync connection to the N560 cradle is the only answer i.e. a normal ROM burn.
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Theft protection is not a problem here. It was wrong ROM and now it is stuck on boot screen, active sync does not see it at all, maybe there is a trick to somehow anable burn, flash, service mode on it? So far nothing helps....

Eenigmaa said:
Theft protection is not a problem here. It was wrong ROM and now it is stuck on boot screen, active sync does not see it at all, maybe there is a trick to somehow anable burn, flash, service mode on it? So far nothing helps....
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read, and pay attention here:
[email protected]@p://a.mod-site.net/gb/u/newplow-1.html
POST 203.
Edit/Delete Message

vladtapes said:
read, and pay attention here:
[email protected]@p://a.mod-site.net/gb/u/newplow-1.html
POST 203.
Edit/Delete Message
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GREAT!!!!
Thanks ever so much! You are real HELP!!!!
You should close process "wcescomm.exe" on PC in task manager. Then hold button record, power and puch reset after that you will come in boot loader. Run the program mtty.1.42 and select usb connect. If You will see the any error just start again mtty. Put command l c:\os_213u.nbf (You should put correct flash file in c:\ or use correct path to os_213u.nbf, l - like L but small). When it will done You should start PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool.exe and flash you PDA.
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Eenigmaa said:
GREAT!!!!
Thanks ever so much! You are real HELP!!!!
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do you confirm the method is fully functional?
I made a backup of my german original rom, if i have problems i want to restore it...
have you got a backup of your old wm5?
thanks

Yes it is working! Even if error comes at the end, shut the appie and use FS update tool to finish it up! All perfect!
Google for WM5, it is somwhere out there!

Eenigmaa said:
Yes it is working! Even if error comes at the end, shut the appie and use FS update tool to finish it up! All perfect!
Google for WM5, it is somwhere out there!
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could you please p.m. to me the link of wm5 other language?
If you refer 4pda...it can't be downloaded, i don't know russian, i registered, but always cannot download...
if you have other link...pls send me...

vladtapes said:
could you please p.m. to me the link of wm5 other language?
If you refer 4pda...it can't be downloaded, i don't know russian, i registered, but always cannot download...
if you have other link...pls send me...
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You can if you use an translator like www.windowslivetranslator.com or translate.google.com
then it is pretty easy.

I've resolved...
Fully functional WM6.0 newplowe in English...
now I'm searching for editing it in Italian/French but I need to edit the rom part of the XIP (just that).
For doing that, I need to open decrypt the file .nbh file (don't really know howto, and newplow doesn't answer about that... ).

Hi everybody, I need your help. I spent 2 hours to read several posts about N560 brick recover, and I still can't figure how to do it.
I flashed the N560 with the WM 6.1 and then I tried to flash the backup Rom Image ... which failed. Now is stucked in the climbing image ... and is not reacting to nothing. I didn't try the mitty sol because I don't have a clear ideea about using it, I am still a newbie ...
Please, I am begging for help if you can , thanks

rcretu said:
Hi everybody, I need your help. I spent 2 hours to read several posts about N560 brick recover, and I still can't figure how to do it.
I flashed the N560 with the WM 6.1 and then I tried to flash the backup Rom Image ... which failed. Now is stucked in the climbing image ... and is not reacting to nothing. I didn't try the mitty sol because I don't have a clear ideea about using it, I am still a newbie ...
Please, I am begging for help if you can , thanks
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Try this?
Take the N560 off the cradle. Remove the battery for at least 30 seconds. Reinsert battery and back cover. Do not worry if the screen shows the dolphins again. Do a full hard reset to get back to factory setting i.e Simultaneously press and hold the Suspend/Resume button (1) and the Calendar application button (2). Briefly press the stylus tip into the soft reset opening (3). Continue to hold down the Suspend/Resume button and the Calendar application button for a few seconds. The reset can take a few minutes. At the end an acoustic signal sounds. Please follow the further instructions on the display.
A hard reset should put the device back to the existing (last burned ROM) and you can try the burn again.
You probably do not know why the burn originally failed. The most common reason is some interrupt of the processor (internet access, switch of all internet access) but more likely something is polling the USB port, which might be shared in the PC. My external USB TV tuner constantly polls the USB port and interrupts any transfers on other ports! I suggest that you disconnect all other USB devices and make sure that your N560 cradle is connected to a USB port directly on the motherboard of the PC (not a USB hub or expansion card with multiple USB ports).
Hope this helps.

N560 - still stucked in the climbers bagground after WM 6.1 flash
fingerstoo said:
Try this?
Take the N560 off the cradle. Remove the battery for at least 30 seconds. Reinsert battery and back cover. Do not worry if the screen shows the dolphins again. Do a full hard reset to get back to factory setting i.e Simultaneously press and hold the Suspend/Resume button (1) and the Calendar application button (2). Briefly press the stylus tip into the soft reset opening (3). Continue to hold down the Suspend/Resume button and the Calendar application button for a few seconds. The reset can take a few minutes. At the end an acoustic signal sounds. Please follow the further instructions on the display.
A hard reset should put the device back to the existing (last burned ROM) and you can try the burn again again.
You probably do not know why the burn originally failed. The most common reason is some interrupt of the processor (internet access, switch of all internet access) but more likely something is polling the USB port, which might be shared in the PC. My external USB TV tuner constantly polls the USB port and interrupts any transfers on other ports! I suggest that you disconnect all other USB devices and make sure that your N560 cradle is connected to a USB port directly on the motherboard of the PC (not a USB hub or expansion card with multiple USB ports).
Hope this helps.
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Hi and thanks a lot for your post ... I tried several times this procedure ... I see no change for the hard reset .. No dolphins image at all ... I would say whatever I do it doesn't affect it. No sound, no other signs ... same climbing image.... Please keep remember other solution, It should be one ... thank you again ...

rcretu said:
Hi and thanks a lot for your post ... I tried several times this procedure ... I see no change for the hard reset .. No dolphins image at all ... I would say whatever I do it doesn't affect it. No sound, no other signs ... same climbing image.... Please keep remember other solution, It should be one ... thank you again ...
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THANKS FOR HELP, I didn't made correctly the the procedure ... now all it's Fine ... really appreciate your help ... saved my precious loox ...

rcretu said:
THANKS FOR HELP, I didn't made correctly the the procedure ... now all it's Fine ... really appreciate your help ... saved my precious loox ...
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PHEW! Thank goodness. I suspect you did not do the hard reset correctly at first. But I agree about the Loox being precious! I look after mine very carefully! Glad I could help you. My pleasure....

My fs560 is brikked!!!!
It remains to climbing people...
I can enter to bootloader (dolphins) but i cannot update to Windows mobile 6.1 Classic ver. 063.07
I need your HELP!!
I tried to use mtty and i can arrive to:
Image Download Finish
OEMFlashWrite(A0000000h,8C200000h,0236002Ah)
Download Fails !!!
OEMFlashWrite error(12)
Error : DownloadImage return error (code = 0xFFFFFFFF)
but then I cannot initialize normal update, it remains to dolphins with the blue bar fullfilled by precedent mtty...
the PocketLOOXN560FlashTool.exe can't find the device...
Can someone explain me the CORRECT method after mtty?
PLEASEE!!!

vladtapes said:
My fs560 is brikked!!!!
It remains to climbing people...
I can enter to bootloader (dolphins) but i cannot update to Windows mobile 6.1 Classic ver. 063.07
I need your HELP!!
I tried to use mtty and i can arrive to:
Image Download Finish
OEMFlashWrite(A0000000h,8C200000h,0236002Ah)
Download Fails !!!
OEMFlashWrite error(12)
Error : DownloadImage return error (code = 0xFFFFFFFF)
but then I cannot initialize normal update, it remains to dolphins with the blue bar fullfilled by precedent mtty...
the PocketLOOXN560FlashTool.exe can't find the device...
Can someone explain me the CORRECT method after mtty?
PLEASEE!!!
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I think you have received a reply from Newplow on his guestbook....

Hi
I tried to upgrade to 128mb but after restart I see only climbing. I tried everything here but on dolphins afterr line is blue it is finished. that I am unpluging device. starting looxflastool for 560 and first is trying to connect by active sync and that when no connection made I see dolphins on left screen of flash tool window. than I am pluging again and after couple secs I see that: Error"The language in this Flash Image update (ENGLISH) differs from that on your device. I tried to change rom on every language but not working as well. PLEASE HELP!!
if that helps than i will add than on top when delfins i see on 560 is two lines. first is typed 2.14.G4 on second directly below is 2.15.
and when mtty 1.42 finishing flashing i see following:
Image Download Finish
OEMFlashWrite(A0000000h,8C200000h,0224002Ah)
Download Fails !!!
OEMFlashWrite error(12)
Error : DownloadImage return error (code = 0xFFFFFFFF)
I've done already procedure You've mentioned here with taking of the battery for at least 30 secs with hard reset afterwards but it is still climibing screen. Can U manage this as well???
THX

The most common error with the procedure is NOT making a proper or true hard reset, or back to factory settings reset. If you do it wrong, you will only achieve a soft reset, the same as you get if you just put the stylus in the reset hole in the base of the N560.
The correct procedure is to hold Power/Resume/Suspend button (on/off button) and the Calendar button simultaneously. Keep holding them and with the other hand press in the reset hole with the stylus. The screen should blank out. KEEP holding the other two buttons all this time, and release the stylus. KEEP holding those two buttons until the screen display returns, only then release them.
This should allow another burn.
I hope this is the problem. It has happened to me and others, so I think I am right. But if this fails, you may need another approach.

Really need someones help <------

This problem started yesterday.
All of a sudden i cannot access my settings at all.
I need to to a hard reset but when i go to the start menu and click settings, nothing.
i've tried leaving the battery out but i don't know how long the back up battery lasts.
Is there any other way to do a hard reset?

"Is there any other way to do a hard reset?"
yes
and it differs from each wm device out there....

Rudegar said:
"Is there any other way to do a hard reset?"
yes
and it differs from each wm device out there....
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Its sorted now anyway, i have the omnia
and if anyone wants to know how to hard reset then here ya go:
1. turn the phone off.
2. hold the power/call/end buttons for about 5 secs.
3. you will be asked if you want to format, this will only format the phone memory not 'my storage' or 'storage card'.
4. press the call button to format and hey presto working omnia again.

Eten x610

Hello,
I Have A Glofiish x610,
This Time When I Had A Hard Reset, It Hangs While Installing The Rom Softwares, So I Soft Reset The Device...
It Doesn't Load!
It Can't Be Hard Reset Too!
I Downloaded The exe File From Glofiish.com For Updating The Os But It Needs Active Sync! My Device Doesn't Load So I Can't Use Active Sync
Please Help Me

hi there
try thees Steps
1. Run the ROM update program on your PC and go through the installation process until your reach the ‘End User Update‘ window. Leave this running.
2. Go to the Temp file in your Documents. This is usually C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp but it really depends on how you set up Windows.
3. Look for these 2 files, temp.dat (about 60 MB) and USBDLUpdate_Console.exe (about 4 KB) and copy them to your formatted SD Card using a card reader. You might want to copy these files to another location on your PC before copying it to your card reader if there are problems. Also, rename temp.dat to temp.bin before proceeding to the next step.
4. Put this card into your device and put the device into Bootloader mode. This can be done by pressing (and holding) the power button and voice commander key and then soft resetting. When it restarts, you can remove the stylus but keep your hold on the power and voice commander buttons.
5. The installation will proceed but at a slower rate than if you did it on your PC. This is due to the slower transfer rate between the card and device. It might take about 15-30 minutes so it would be best if your device was connected to the mains charger.
6. Installation is complete when you see this message “USB host is not connected yet“. This is your sign to do a soft reset and setup your device as the ROM installation was successful.
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you may use this rom
http://rapidshare.com/files/314654442/Eten_X610_WWE.7z
just rename temp.dat to temp.bin put in formatted sd card
and go threw steps 4 to 6
any how you are welcome to
http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showforum=52

Hello,
I Tried All Ways & Your Roms On Etenusers
But My Boot Loader Shows a White Screen After Using Magic Numbers Method!
What Can I Do?
My Device Is x610 Samir 020 0702
One An Other That: My Booting With All The Roms That I Tested With Memory Card Method Long Only 4-5 Minutes! Isn't It Wrong?

Aha i got it now
Ok i got it now
I understand your problem
you cant do any thing for your device unless you have another Glofiish device (any model)
because your flasher is corrupted
if you find any working Glofiish device (any model) this is how to do it
1- connect the working device to Active Sync
2- download this tool http://rapidshare.com/files/254487467/UnLock_upgrade.rar
3- put one of my roms in the same folder of the tool.
4- open the upgrade.bat
5- flow the installation steps until the device goes to bootloader
6- now disconnect the working device from usb
7- put your device in boot loader mode connect your device to pc
8- push the update button .
and you are done
any how send me your mobile number as PM and i will call you as long as you are
in ksa

Oh A Big Problem!!!!
I'm In Iran & I Think There Are max 10 Glofiish Device In Iran!!!
Some Time My Boot Loader Work But Only With Sd Card
Isn't Any Other Solution?

I have another problem with x610. After hard reseting the phone after I pressed yes on deleting the files, I got myself callibrating the phone but the callibration stucks forever and it does not passes so the phone wont start...
Is there any solution? Please help as after searching I found nothing as a solution so I am asking here.
can I boot somehow from sd card? I mean formatting the phone?

nephew said:
Hello,
I Have A Glofiish x610,
This Time When I Had A Hard Reset, It Hangs While Installing The Rom Softwares, So I Soft Reset The Device...
It Doesn't Load!
It Can't Be Hard Reset Too!
I Downloaded The exe File From Glofiish.com For Updating The Os But It Needs Active Sync! My Device Doesn't Load So I Can't Use Active Sync
Please Help Me
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To Hard reset x610 you need to press reset and on button, then press on button again while holding down end call(red) button, after some time erase all data option with timer will appear, press wifi/gps button that is listed under the YES option to change the times option or erasing data,
next screen will confirm your choice..
and we are back to square one and phone can be used again.. will all data lost..

probir_dev said:
To Hard reset x610 you need to press reset and on button, then press on button again while holding down end call(red) button, after some time erase all data option with timer will appear, press wifi/gps button that is listed under the YES option to change the times option or erasing data,
next screen will confirm your choice..
and we are back to square one and phone can be used again.. will all data lost..
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Hi,
I tried as you said above, when I click YES it showed as bellow
"erase all data and load default ? (Yes)
please wait... "
and nothing had happened and it was showing like that continuously..
What should I do to get back my device?
please help me to sort out this.
thanks in advance..