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WM6 Installation Success poll

Hello all,
I recently purchased a Cingular 8525 and I'm really considering upgrading the phone's OS to WM6. I've successfully used the unlocker to unlock the SIM and made it SuperCID.
I did a search on this topic but really couldn't find anything that was in one spot....
I'm creating this poll for all those newbies (like myself who want to upgrade).
This poll is for any flavor of WM6....
Cheers to all...

Wow!!!!
It's pretty amazing that no one has bricked their phone while upgrading to WM6. As a newbie, I feel pretty confident upgrading this weekend...
I've printed up the guides and downloaded all the software...
I've decided to use the LVSW version.
Thank you to all for all your input and advice.

There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll

mfabre said:
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
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That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim

I brick and can unbrick my tytn
Yes i try to upgrade my softbank with a dopod rom, for winmobil6 LVSW, and my phone brick after a 17% but reading all wiki, i can recover so is beautiful mobile 6, i'm happy with black edition 1.1 cyu

I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
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I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...

Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...

Hi truffle1234,
You may want to create a new thread asking your question. The intent of this thread is to find out the installation success rate for people who have already tried to upgrade to WM6.
truffle1234 said:
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
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joel32137 said:
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
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Well...I guess after I successfully flashed LVSW without bricking my (almost) new 8525 I thought what the hell and flashed Black v1.2 on the spur of the moment...my wife says I have impulse control issues. But I'm glad I did. It seems to run smoother, quicker response and better handling of some of my 3rd part apps.
I've done ALOT of trial and error. I have hard reset my phone (of my own volition) 5 times over the past week. I'm a bit OCD and after trying out programs to see how I run it seemed like the memory went back up all the way. So I hard reset to start over again.
I finally have it working the way I like and the Black, from my low-level of experience, seems stable and more functional than the Palm I used t carry.
I have the following installed:
Weather to Go (working construction/realty I need accurate Wx)
BattMemory (I'm anal about checking program memory and its a small plug in)
O2Plus (great for hitting a button and seeing what apps are open)
Palm threated SMS (I hate the native SMS program on the 8525)
MORTGAGECalc (REALTOR, nuff said)
GoogleMaps (REALTOR, nuff said)
Batti (I like the top bar that shows charging status and level no matter what app I'm in
ClearTemp (cleans out settings and temp filed quickly)
VibraSwitch (allows me to switch between vib and sound a la Treo 650)
PTTFix (allows me to remap the PTT button)
I've tried some other apps that did not go so well...SPB, Mobile Shell worked well a few days then slowed everything down...I liked the tabs and the plug in but it kept slowing the system down...and a bunch of others.
I'm not a big media user so I don't need TCMP or any other cool multimedia gadgets so I kept it to what I need. I keep my laptop with me normally so I don't need to watch movies or do any of that stuff. Most of my business work is done on the laptop. I have avvenu (www.avvenu.com) on my desktop so I can pull any file from my desktop from my phone via IE, which is a nice feature.
I soft reset every morning when waking the system up and it runs alot smoother than my T650 did.
I've not missed a single call since getting the 8525, the Push email is alot better than 3rd party apps for Palm, the 3G rocks where I am, and I get better reception. On my T650 I would get 1-2 bars or no service sitting in my house but with the 8525 I get 2-3 3G bars as a rule.
JIm
Impatiently waiting for Black v2.0 to be released!

aatjitra said:
I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
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Check out the Hermes Section and look for "Palm SMS" thread or something like that. It goes over the MMS settings quite in depth.

just follow the guide and it should be fine. I am a beginner to this too but do some research and reading and follow the GUIDE! the guide is excellent!

Well everybody, just wanted to give a brief update that I was able to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to WM6 No problems on this end. Would definitely recommend the update to all.

Which flavour did you upgrade to??

Black is back in
I had no problems with either Black 1.1 or 1.2. Upgrades went like a charm. Not waiting for Black 2.0

Used Mr Vanx's guide to upgrade my HERM200 to the LVSW edition (25/3 version). I encountered no problems at all.
Device seems to work fine, though in Surinam we don't have all the advanced mobile phone features as in europe (like gprs etc).
First time upgrade

need some rom update advice

hey guys,
ok i used to be quite the regular (i still host most the roms and new ones on my zimuhost.getmyip.com site).
however i'm quite behind the times and havne't been following developments much.
can someone advise me whats the best way to go about:
1) backing up my current SMSs (no clue what new software is out there)
2) suggest me a new ROM (i'm still on the old black one- shadow). i want pocketCM thats running natively if thats possible... but i don't mind installing it on another ROM that may work better.
3) space is not important to me. pagepool / speed is. i don't mind giving up 12mb pagepool memory, even more to font caches etc for speed. the storage is unnecessary.
i've already updated olipro and radio stacks, so i'm pretty good to go.
thanks a lot guys
and as usual, if you want any phone-related download mirrors for files / roms etc, just shoot me a PM with the megaupload/etc link and you'll have a nice http download option

anybody?
advice would be loved

Hello mate,
Given your history of hosting, etc, and helping the community out I thought I would get a response in before some smart ar*e tells you to read the f*** wiki.
Anyway:
- SMS backup - There's a tool on here called (I think) PIMS. Should do the job else go for SPB backup.
- New Rom - tough one this as it depends on what you are looking for. I use Schaps (see my sig) because it is rock solid stable. However Shamanix has just produced a lite version based on Schaps and has provided a shedload of cabs for people to personalise their own install. Personally I prefer this approach as you get more or less exactly what you want. Search on here for it.
Does this help?
Cheers
WB

hey WB, thanks a bunch for the response i was totally expecting the flaming to start instantly!
Problem is that the last time i frequented this site and was a regular there were like 3 ROM developers. now there are like 42,000. I have no clue which version of what to use, even after having heavily browsed around this site the past 2 days!
i'll take your advice and stick with schaps, downloading 3.54 right now...

Excellent. I can also recommend the radio version I'm using as that has been the most stable to date.
CARE - make sure you do what Mr Vanx suggests BEFORE you jump in. See here for more info (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/). Take your time and read loads first. Saves a lot of grief later on.
Cheers
WB

Which one to choose?

i'm looking a rom to replace the official wm6 one.
since this i s the first time i'm doing such thing i'd like to recieve some help.
which rom should i choose?
there are many and the list of features is long and hard to compare between each other, any hint on how to choose and what to look for are well accepted.
thank you.

Lyllo,
Hello and welcome. There must be a thousand threads on here askng the same question.
I suggest you do one of several things:
- Search for each thread asking this question and see what responses were given:
- Look through the threads on here for each rom and from the discussion decide which is best for you (recommended option)
- Choose a number of roms at random, flash them, and see what you think.
I would personally sit down and decide what you are looking for in a rom, eg, speed, stability, speed (don't care about stability), stability (don't care about speed), feature rich versus feature lite, etc.
Once you have done this then go to option 2 above and see what fits. Next read mrvax guides THOROUGHLY (see here...http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/) BEFORE you jump in.
Also it is esential that you read the wiki (see here...http://wiki.xda-developers.com/) BEFORE you jump in.
If you want to change roms safely there is no short cut to assimilating knowledge, understanding thoroughly, then implementing.
Good luck and don't forget to backup your data before you start.
WB

can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention

lyllo said:
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
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Ok dude.....heres ur answers (please note mrvanx has about 3 bottles of merlot in him to cloud his judgement)
1) Black set the standard for ROMs, however the base ROM has evolved a fair bit since the last version of WM6 black (WM6 Black X).......Right now i recommend doing some reading about Pandora Naked 6....and customizing it for your own needs ;-)
2) Speed/Stability are relative to what you have installed....see 1)
3) Schaps ROMs are a VERY good place to start, however if you wish to truely taylor your device you should read into cooking your own ROM.
4) AT&T is a US based betwork......ignore it unless you are in the US
5) Big storage means the ROM has some optimisation added to the IMGFS file system so the storage space on the device is freed up for you to use, in some cases you could see a storage capacity of 80MB or maybe more!!?
...............finally.....
...INSTALL HARDSPL BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!! good luck. ;-)

thank you ver much ^ì

extremely clear for 3 bottles of merlot, Vanx.. I'm very impressed
Lyllo, I'd say, first of all, install HardSPL like Vanx said
Next, I would advise you to try out some ROMs. The Black is very complete, there are some others who are very good. I personally use Schap's 4.22 and I like it alot (eagerly waiting for 4.30, hint hint Schap ) If you follow the proper procedure, flashing usually is a piece of cake and within 15 minutes you're up and running again.
You can only really know which ROM you like by trying them out for a couple of days. I tried Black and I switched to Schap cos I like it better but it's very personal.
Also, I suggest you take a look at your Radio ROM too. This isn't customised but it highly influences the performance of your Hermes, i.e. how long your battery lasts, how quick you get a link to the internet, how well bluetooth performs and so on. Read the threads on the various versions and pick the one that seems best for you and just give it a go for a couple of days.
After a while you will find your ideal combination. And that will be the best for you.

Shamanix 2.2
If you are not in to Internet Sharing, I would recommend you try Shamanix 2.2. No bugs. Its fast and stable.

I would recommend to give one of Edhaas's Roms a try, they are very fast AND stable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010

thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...

lyllo said:
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
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Yeah, thats right.
BUT:
At home I'm using Linux on my desktop system, my previous mobile phone has a Symbian OS. In the last 25 years I was using computers with C64 OS, Amiga OS, MSDos, DR DOS. None of all these operating systems was completely bugfree. Android is based on Linux and much more important: its developed by humans. So again it will have failures
The point is to create a Rom which handles all the given defects in a useful way. And I think some of the Rom devs here did a very good job.

the more static and simple an os is the more stable
the more cutting edge user costimizable and featurefull and advanced an os is the more places bugs and unablity to test all senarios play it's part

thak you guys.
let me just explain deeper that i'm talking about defects, not bugs.
it's quite obvious that human can do some mistake that reflects into bugs, i'm not complaining about that
i was just complainig the way wm6 is designed
anyway, i guess i'll have to wait for android or an iphone surrogate
by now i think i'll at least upgrade the rom from the official to a better in performance one.
there's only one matter, i've just found Schaps' 3.54 one in italian, can you tell me where can i find a list of localized rom in order to choose something newer?
i'd like to scratch as less as possible my ppc, so a full rom, with a sotisfactory set of program would be better.
thank you.

My first question would be are you sure you are using a Hermes/Tytn 1?
You said you were new to all this and asked which ROM you should change to from your stock/official WM6 ROM.
Not many Hermes/Tytn 1's are available with WM6 on them as standard. So just double check you have the phone that is being discussed in this particular sub-forum as if you use the wrong image on the wrong device it can cause big, non-correctable (aka permanent) errors.

At the risk of blowing my own horn, If you are new to this and would like a good start, try my ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355439
This will:
1) Updates your Radio ROM to the latest version - which many people find performs better (although there are apparently some issues with AT&T network - but as you're not in the US, that doesn't matter here).
2) Give you a featureset similar to what the phone manufacturer would have - including Office 2007, a voice command/dialer application, and the latest Windows Live.
3) Gives you the option to uninstall Office 2007, voice command software and Windows live if you don't want them.
4) Will work with pretty much any network due to the inclusion of the HTC network wizard which sets up your mobile for almost every network worldwide - just pick where you are.
5) Gives you about 54Mb of free storage BEFORE you uninstall any addon applications.
This will give you a solid base to starting to flash your device etc too - which is great

thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.

lyllo said:
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
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TyTN II is a Kaiser NOT a wizard. Do not flash a Wizard ROM!! ^_^

Whats the big idea

Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony

All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond

i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.

Blazeitup123 said:
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.

have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol

Blazeitup123 said:
pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.

Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782

Just got my HTC Tilt 2 and need some help!

Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!

Congrats on getting the device. You'll either love it or hate it...
Re: Flash player
The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
Re: definition of ROM and Radio
Suggest you to read about them in the wiki. ROM is your device's firmware. Radio is the software that controls your cellular reception and GPS.
Skin for TF3D does not equal ROM. Essentially it's a theme. Before installing themes, make sure the theme is made for your version of manila. But if it's a cab file, you can simply uninstall to reverse any changes.
Re: the name of your device
The Tilt2 is the same as HTC Touch Pro2. Rhodium is HTC's code name for this family of devices. The "Tilt" name is just AT&T's branding.

StitchRokcs said:
Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!
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So, I got this phone back in September. This was also my first smartphone. I read and read through all the tutorials here on ROMs, radios, flashing, and registry tweaks. The answers to the majority of your questions are in the FAQs/XDA-Wiki.
HTC YouTube App: I think there's a fix available here on XDA. I think itt has something to do with editting the connection settings. You might want to search for that using the search function of the forum.
ROM (flashing): think of it as like upgrading your PC from XP to Vista or Vista to 7.
TF3D (aka Manila or Sense): a UI (user interface) it's sort of a skin on top of Windows Mobile. Since WM is old and appearance hasn't improved that much, HTC implemented this UI to cover up some flaws of WM.
Radio-ROM: No, that's not the FM Radio. It's a software thing that handles the phone capabilities of the phone (the Tilt2 is a PDA/phone).
(Changing) Themes: There's a lot of themes out there to suit our personalities! Go look! Besides, when you get addicted to flashing, you'll get used to changing things and setting things up over and over again!
Rhodium: (I just completed a Chemistry course; I never knew this was an element on the Periodic Table!) HTC code name of the Touch Pro2 and Tilt2.
Feel free to PM me if you need any help. Like I said, it's also my first smartphone, and I would have to say I learned a lot since I first got it (pretty recently). So I would know what you're experiencing right now.
ohyeahar said:
Re: Flash player
The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
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Yes, Skyfire has full flash support and is very fast because everything goes through SkyfireLab servers. However, video playback quality will be horrible (especially YouTube!).
I just remembered, if you go to m.youtube.com in Opera Mobile Browser and you press on a video, the video will play in the HTC Video Player. So, it's not really playing in the browser; it's like you're downloading the video into your Tilt2.

Ah ok cool. Yea I have skyfire I forgot it did flash but the resolution is a bit fuzzy. Pretty sure I will love it just as soon as I figure out what in the world im doing! Since I love customizing and tweaking things which is the main reason I didnt go with an iPhone that and the full QWERTY keyboard.
I guess I shall read the wiki/faq

Welcome to forums
You had a great gift for Xmas!!
I assume you still have the stock ROM, which I personally think it´s crap...
I would recommend to install a cooked ROM from this great site!
Onalmost any cooked ROM you have the youtube app so you can see videos
Have a deep read on the Rhodium Wiki so you start to familiarize with all that you can do
Good luck and don´t forget to vote!

Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.

StitchRokcs said:
Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.
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LOL I think every ROM here gets rid of that crapware!

Ok good because it keeps me up at night just knowing that its on my phone >
Ok cool just read the Wiki found a list of ROMs that look great > just 2 possible more questions
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?

There is a YouTube app included on the Tilt 2. It is hidden from the Start Menu by default. If you open File Manager and browse to the Windows directory, you will find YouTube there. Once you launch it for the first time, it should also be referenced in the Start Menu, or at least in the "All Programs" list option in the TF3D Programs tab. If not, you can easily COPY the youtube.lnk file from the Windows directory to Windows\Start Meny\Programs and it will show up.
The app is clean and tight, and supports the native controls of the phone (eg, the volume rocker controls volume).

I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?

http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/

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I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?
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1. If you have the .cabs of your apps, save them onto your PC (I have a designated folder for all my cabs, worth over 400MB!). After you flash, you're going to have to re-install them (automatically or manually, depending on if you use Sashimi, Sprite, Seven, or UC_setup [UC is only possible if it is supported by the ROM]).
2. If you flashed, your stock ROM has been overwritten, so if you hard reset, it will flash to the factory defaults that is in the flashed ROM. To go back to stock, you will need to flash back to the stock ROM, which you should find in the link posted in the above post.

Oh ok thanks for all the answers appriciate it I think I might do it this weekend if i get the time.

First off, welcome.
Next before you do ANYTHING read then re-read any and all wiki's and tutorials on the Rhodium. Learn your device inside and out FIRST before attempting to make tweaks or rom changes. If you don't read then re-read, your Christmas present can become a pretty paperweight -aka- bricking your device.
pIE and Skyfire both have Flash capabilities.
The Rhodium IS cpabale of being used as a radio, but you need to install the right cab file...again read.
That being said, a radio usually refers to the part of the phone that receives a signal so you can use it as a phone. Don't mess with THAT radio until you have read and re-read the wiki's and tutorials.
Flashing a rom means to change your operating system to a "cooked" one...one made using a windows mobile base, but specially tweaked by someone here at xda. These cooked roms cannot be flashed without first unlocking your phone. Again READ or you can brick it. Also know that flashing a cooked rom has the potential to void any warranty you have...so back up your stock rom before attempting a rom flash. It is also good to have this back up in the event that you don't like a cooked rom you have installed.
There is a great thread that lists cab files to some really good applications, which will customize your device even more. You can also create your own ringtones, and tweak the device. Again, before any major installations or registry tweaks I strongly urge you to learn all you can first, by reading the wiki's and tutorials.
I have been with xda since my wizard came out a few years ago, and I have seen far too many eager "noobs" brick their devices.
I have only had my rhodium for a month. I am still learning my device. I still have a stock rom because I am not yet comfortable with my knowledge of the Rhodium. The stock rom blows by comparison to the cooked roms, but until I am comfortable with my device, I am happy to remain stock until I learn all I need to.
Once you learn your device, you will need to join Flashers Anonymous...because like most of us here, our phones become really fun toys with pretty much unlimited possiblities...so again, welcome...and read, read, read.