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Do not understand this WM6 and hermes issue

hey Guys,
I'm pretty new to this kinda stuff and i just got a Dopod 838 Pro, im guessing this is the Australian version of the Hermes, its manufactured by HTC. here in Australia for some reason we have like 3 different brand names for them but their all the same!.... anyways to the point, i read all these different threads with all these different WM6 versions on it and i have no idea anymore which is the right one?!?!?!
i want to upgrade my dopod to the WM6 but i don't no which OS to choose? which is the best atm and why is it so hard to get them working? its not like just a copy of windows xp and you install it?
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
Latest Version Software? haha
So yea which copy do i use?

Hi,
I'm using Dopod 838Pro too.
There are pros and cons for all the WM6, it all depends on what you want (more embedded software? more memory?)
As for myself, I've been using XDA Live v0.1 then v0.2. I'm still waiting for v0.3 I have not tried the rest, because I think I prefer XDA Live and I'll wait for kyphur
Thanks!

remigi said:
hey Guys,
I'm pretty new to this kinda stuff and i just got a Dopod 838 Pro, im guessing this is the Australian version of the Hermes, its manufactured by HTC. here in Australia for some reason we have like 3 different brand names for them but their all the same!.... anyways to the point, i read all these different threads with all these different WM6 versions on it and i have no idea anymore which is the right one?!?!?!
i want to upgrade my dopod to the WM6 but i don't no which OS to choose? which is the best atm and why is it so hard to get them working? its not like just a copy of windows xp and you install it?
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
Latest Version Software? haha
So yea which copy do i use?
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best thing to do is get onto Hard-SPL then start trying them all out before finally settling on one and lobbing all your crap into it.

I would even go one step further (which I have) and purchase Sprite Back and perform an Update Restore .. this will allow you to flash new ROMS and in one restore you have all your apps back...
The Update Restore function allows you to change OS's or devices and restore all of your applications. (Just be sure to follow the steps every time)

remigi said:
Also what is LVSW mean or whatever ppl are saying on here lol
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LVSW is a user that cooked one of the WM6 versions.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299564

Remigi,
There is some good advise in all of the above. The only thing you can really do to be honest is read all of the forums relating to the upgrade process, especially the wiki!!!! Then once you feel you are adequately ready take the plunge. An extra piece of advise that I will dispense if you don't mind as I am struggling with it at the moment is;
Copy down all of your data settings and connection details - or confirm (via the forums) that the settings that are out here all work and will get you back sending mms / gprs / wap(?) etc etc. I flashed my 2 day old Orange M3100 (same thing as you just branded for UK) and I am still trying to get all of this functionality back properly.
As for which ROM to use..... I am using the one mentioned in my sig block (the second one) the black v1.2. It absolutely dumps all over the bog standard carrier rom!!!
Hope this helps
WBeresford

wberesford said:
Copy down all of your data settings and connection details - or confirm (via the forums) that the settings that are out here all work and will get you back sending mms / gprs / wap(?) etc etc. I flashed my 2 day old Orange M3100 (same thing as you just branded for UK) and I am still trying to get all of this functionality back properly.
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This is good advice...but what are you missing? I am on Orange UK and it takes less than five minutes to re-enter GPRS/WAP/MMS settings and load the sdk certs and the smsproviders.dll (to get the voicemail notifications) following a rom update.

so whats the difference between them all? like atm i have the standard WM5 Hutchinson's three software on there which has nothing special apart from every time u put a simcard in it downloads the settings automatically.... called network setup or something... but yea.. what the diff between like vanilla and xda and black and all those... isnt it all just WM6?

HTC TyTN WM6 Upgrade ... Need Help!

Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.

Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.

redaatef said:
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.

be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.

I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy

Flashig roms is one way... be careful...

When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.

I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.

Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.

silverfox0214 said:
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.

My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,

teambnet said:
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John

HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..

You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,

Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !

hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks

naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?

redaatef said:
Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.

Upgrade to WM6???

I have a Cingular 8525 and it is unlocked and I use T-Mobile service with it. I see that T-mobile has released the WM6 upgrade...http://home.businesswire.com/portal...d=news_view&newsId=20070502006572&newsLang=en
My question is should I upgrade using the T-mobile version or should i wait and get the cingular version of WM6? Also, is it worth the trouble to upgrade? Im a pretty heavy user of all the features of the phone.
Also, what software would you recommend me using to backup my programs on my phone if i do upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
Rjp20

tell me how that works out loading a WM6 smartphone ROM on your hermes i would love to know...
45 posts no less you would have thought but i guess that just goes to show its not how many its what they say!~

Rjp20 said:
I have a Cingular 8525 and it is unlocked and I use T-Mobile service with it. I see that T-mobile has released the WM6 upgrade...http://home.businesswire.com/portal...d=news_view&newsId=20070502006572&newsLang=en
My question is should I upgrade using the T-mobile version or should i wait and get the cingular version of WM6? Also, is it worth the trouble to upgrade? Im a pretty heavy user of all the features of the phone.
Also, what software would you recommend me using to backup my programs on my phone if i do upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
Rjp20
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I would say "Yes" Go ahead and upgrade your phone with that Rom.
Is it worth the trouble; well Tell us the trouble you have after you upgrade to the t-mobile rom.
As for Backup software I would suggest ArcServe 7. Oh wait I think ArcServe has a newer mobile version!
Seriously, you should read the wiki and maybe a few threads before upgrading (or should I say bricking) your phone.

austinsnyc said:
tell me how that works out loading a WM6 smartphone ROM on your hermes i would love to know...
45 posts no less you would have thought but i guess that just goes to show its not how many its what they say!~
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If you wernt so fast to be a SMART ASS you would realise that they have ALSO released a version for the MDA and the Dash...
90 post no less... Your post was pointless and not helpful at all. It just showed how much of an ASS you really are

As I understand it, Cingular has a load of bloatware installed - but if you use this stuff then the t-mobile ROM won't include a lot of it and you'll need to install it by cab files. A lot of the cabs are included in some of the xda-dev WM6 ROMS. Using the Cingular ROM should also keep you in warranty if anything goes wrong.
If you're a heavy user of the standard phone functions then either the Cingular or t-mobile ROMS should be ok (but remember to make a note of your wireless/data/mms settings or get the cab file to re-install them - maybe here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_provider_cabs ).
With both of the above ROMS you get the official support through the customer service help lines. This will generally be limited to a twat who knows ****-all about phones except that the one superglued to his ear hurts after a 12 hour shift.
If you want good WM6 ROMS with good support (not always immediate but often quicker than queueing for a helpdesk) then try Black or LSVW. Both are great and most annoyances or problems have been found and already resolved.
As for the backup software, all the stuff I need backed up is already synced with outlook. The actual program files I always re-install after a ROM upgrade - I think this is the safest way. A piece of software which is always mentioned when people ask about backups is SPB backup http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/?en. I can't recommend it because I don't use it, however it seems to be highly regarded.
Rjp20 said:
I have a Cingular 8525 and it is unlocked and I use T-Mobile service with it. I see that T-mobile has released the WM6 upgrade...http://home.businesswire.com/portal...d=news_view&newsId=20070502006572&newsLang=en
My question is should I upgrade using the T-mobile version or should i wait and get the cingular version of WM6? Also, is it worth the trouble to upgrade? Im a pretty heavy user of all the features of the phone.
Also, what software would you recommend me using to backup my programs on my phone if i do upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
Rjp20
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ach2 said:
As I understand it, Cingular has a load of bloatware installed - but if you use this stuff then the t-mobile ROM won't include a lot of it and you'll need to install it by cab files. A lot of the cabs are included in some of the xda-dev WM6 ROMS. Using the Cingular ROM should also keep you in warranty if anything goes wrong.
If you're a heavy user of the standard phone functions then either the Cingular or t-mobile ROMS should be ok (but remember to make a note of your wireless/data/mms settings or get the cab file to re-install them - maybe here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_provider_cabs ).
With both of the above ROMS you get the official support through the customer service help lines. This will generally be limited to a twat who knows ****-all about phones except that the one superglued to his ear hurts after a 12 hour shift.
If you want good WM6 ROMS with good support (not always immediate but often quicker than queueing for a helpdesk) then try Black or LSVW. Both are great and most annoyances or problems have been found and already resolved.
As for the backup software, all the stuff I need backed up is already synced with outlook. The actual program files I always re-install after a ROM upgrade - I think this is the safest way. A piece of software which is always mentioned when people ask about backups is SPB backup http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/?en. I can't recommend it because I don't use it, however it seems to be highly regarded.
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THANK! keep em comming! thats Exactly what im looking for!

Using a 8525 on T-Mobile myself I would love to know where I can find the T-Mobile WM6 rom for the MDA. I followed the T-Mobile link but there is no WM6 update. Thanks for your help.

cshum said:
Using a 8525 on T-Mobile myself I would love to know where I can find the T-Mobile WM6 rom for the MDA. I followed the T-Mobile link but there is no WM6 update. Thanks for your help.
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Here it is. Enjoy!
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/

ROFL
You can't be serious.
Have you read a frickin' thing in your 40+ posts?
Load that Dash ROM on anything, right? ****, put it on your Panasonic wireless 5.8 GHz phone while you're at it.
Gimme some of what you're smokin', dude.
You know that the MDA is a Wizard, and your 8525 is a Hermes, right? You will brick your phone if you don't follow the instructions for a Hermes.
As for bloatware, Black 3.0 is the newest and fastest ROM out there.

t-mo mda is for WM5.0?I
i looked at the "do i need this upgrade?" and it says it's WM5.0. Is anyone sure that this is for WM6.0 and not 5.0? The dash upgrade clearly says 6.0.

Oops, I brick my phone. . . Perhaps not. Was it a wizard or hermes? I don't know. Just gimme a link to some WM6 roms and I will flash them iusing Vista. Probably more than one rom at a time.
p.s. Please don't take this seriously. Enjoy!

It was announced
waynew73 said:
i looked at the "do i need this upgrade?" and it says it's WM5.0. Is anyone sure that this is for WM6.0 and not 5.0? The dash upgrade clearly says 6.0.
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That T-Mo was releasing WM 6.0 for the MDA. Can you get into the OS.NB file and check the build dates?
Otherwise, look up Faria's Wizard ROM and unlock your phone. I used Faria's on my K-Jam before I switched to a TyTN.

upgrade to WM6.1&touchflo, how???

Dear xda-developers forum,
I just bought an HTC artemis, very nice phone, and was searching for apps for it, most of links in the search engines returned to here ( xda-developers ), so I thought..this must be the best website on the net specialized in PPC, so I registered..and this is my first post
To be honest i always were a symbian fan, but i wanted to break the rule this time, I'm new in windows mobile world..please help me!
I just have one question: Can anyone tell me how to install the latest version of WM6 (I currently have some WM5 version), and then show me how to turn it into a nice touchflo device (what's this cooking all about)???
Thank youuuuuuu!

Have a bit more of a read round the forums and then carefully follow the instructions for installing a new ROM.
I've got 6.1 with touch working though I have to say that the touch stuff is very limited.
Once you've worked through it, it is easy enough as long as you follow each step carefully.

knightnet said:
Have a bit more of a read round the forums and then carefully follow the instructions for installing a new ROM.
I've got 6.1 with touch working though I have to say that the touch stuff is very limited.
Once you've worked through it, it is easy enough as long as you follow each step carefully.
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thank for your response, knightnet, I am delighted to know that there still are few helpful people around here ... why are you saying that touchflo is limited?? I watched some youtube clips that showed really fast responding touchflo Artemis...
can someone please give me a link to a guide for begginers in PPCs, I read some guides in the wiki section, but there are alot of weird terms that i just couldn't get into my head ... pleaseeeeeee hellpppppppppp

belal_se said:
I just bought an HTC artemis, very nice phone,
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Did you buy a new phone or a used one? Just wondering since new phones come with WM6 & not WM5, I got a new one 4 months back.
And like knightnet said, have a look around thr forums, check out the wiki & you will see guides on installing a custom ROM. You can try it out but personally I'm not a fan of TouchFlo on the Artemis - it ain't got the processor or memory for that, TouchFlo is heavy. You can also find the new TouchFlo versions around in the forum, the kinds which come with Diamond & later phones with those smooth sliding. That TouchFlo is pretty slick & I like it a lot & had it on my Artemis for a week but then removed it as the phone has become too slow to bear it.

kautilya said:
Did you buy a new phone or a used one? Just wondering since new phones come with WM6 & not WM5, I got a new one 4 months back.
And like knightnet said, have a look around thr forums, check out the wiki & you will see guides on installing a custom ROM. You can try it out but personally I'm not a fan of TouchFlo on the Artemis - it ain't got the processor or memory for that, TouchFlo is heavy. You can also find the new TouchFlo versions around in the forum, the kinds which come with Diamond & later phones with those smooth sliding. That TouchFlo is pretty slick & I like it a lot & had it on my Artemis for a week but then removed it as the phone has become too slow to bear it.
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yes, my artemis is brand new, didn't really need it but it was on sale
it has OS 5.1.342, build 15096.3.0.0 (whatever that means!!)
im on this forum for the last 6 hours learning how to upgrade the phone, thinks a little clearer now, but i have new questions (that makes me a noob, saw this term used here when a pro wants to pick on a beginner, i really dont know what that exactly means )...
so i want to know if i can backup the original rom before doing an upgrade, or is there a place to download them??
I have :
ROM version 1.12.415.1 WWE
Radio version 2.67.90 (which is old compared to the ones available here)
thaaaaaaaaaaanks!

Have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

belal_se said:
yes, my artemis is brand new, didn't really need it but it was on sale
it has OS 5.1.342, build 15096.3.0.0 (whatever that means!!)
im on this forum for the last 6 hours learning how to upgrade the phone, thinks a little clearer now, but i have new questions (that makes me a noob, saw this term used here when a pro wants to pick on a beginner, i really dont know what that exactly means )...
so i want to know if i can backup the original rom before doing an upgrade, or is there a place to download them??
I have :
ROM version 1.12.415.1 WWE
Radio version 2.67.90 (which is old compared to the ones available here)
thaaaaaaaaaaanks!
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There are some standard ROMs available I think, I remember seeing some when I was looking to change mine (it's been a while I'm afraid so I'm a bit hazy). But you can and should back-up your own.
It isn't easy being a "noob" in phone upgrading - I remember what it was like & I wasn't being nasty to you (honest!) but the instructions on the wiki are clear after you have followed them carefully. If you've backed up your existing ROM and taken out any additional memory cards (oh, and charged up the phone before starting - just in case), there is really no danger of "bricking" your phone.
Don't forget to back up any information on the phone as well. I use the excellent PIM Backup for that as I can shedule it to do a daily backup of all of the PIM (Calendar, contacts, tasks, notes) data and any other data I want (I back up the internal memory "My Documents" folder) to the memory card in the phone and then regularly copy that to my PC (and from their back up to a server on a different continent - though I am a bit paranoid about my data!).
So go for it

guys am i am trying to put a new ROM in my artemis....!!!
what about that rom? " ROM : Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE | RADIO : 03.34.90 "
or have u any other to suggest me for better... ty

knightnet said:
There are some standard ROMs available I think, I remember seeing some when I was looking to change mine (it's been a while I'm afraid so I'm a bit hazy). But you can and should back-up your own.
It isn't easy being a "noob" in phone upgrading - I remember what it was like & I wasn't being nasty to you (honest!) but the instructions on the wiki are clear after you have followed them carefully. If you've backed up your existing ROM and taken out any additional memory cards (oh, and charged up the phone before starting - just in case), there is really no danger of "bricking" your phone.
Don't forget to back up any information on the phone as well. I use the excellent PIM Backup for that as I can shedule it to do a daily backup of all of the PIM (Calendar, contacts, tasks, notes) data and any other data I want (I back up the internal memory "My Documents" folder) to the memory card in the phone and then regularly copy that to my PC (and from their back up to a server on a different continent - though I am a bit paranoid about my data!).
So go for it
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i have my artemis for 10 days now, experimenting all kinds of stuff, i dont have any important data on it so no spooks their, haha, i even never made a call with it!

Blexakos said:
guys am i am trying to put a new ROM in my artemis....!!!
what about that rom? " ROM : Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE | RADIO : 03.34.90 "
or have u any other to suggest me for better... ty
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ok if you want a manila rom, this is the best ever in my opinion :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440478
now, what i did not try until now is using spb shell, i saw this on youtube and i want it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vW92WEUeg&watch_response
it has the Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE rom with a diomond theme, looks nice cant wait for flashing to end!!

now i have an important question:
is there a maximum number of times for flashing my artemis, coz im afraid that i might fry the rom from to much flashing?

belal_se said:
now i have an important question:
is there a maximum number of times for flashing my artemis, coz im afraid that i might fry the rom from to much flashing?
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I expect that there is since all FLASH memory has a limit.
However, you won't be hitting it any time soon even if you were to FLASH a couple of times a day!

What to do with boring PDA2K

Hello everyone,
I've used my PDA2K on & off for the past 5 years but have always felt it's pretty much not worth the effort using it for anything serious. The net is slow and the general Windows 2003 SE operating system fragile, I reckon I've soft reset a thousand times since owning the unit. What advice can anyone give on how to improve it's capabilities & make it less boring to use, what change should I try. I'm not worried about frying the ROM as I only use this to surf the net nowadays & thats about it, just feel it's too good to bin but want to get something more out of it than I'm getting now.
Thanks any advice on possible software changes would be appreciated.

i would say...try win 6.5..no doubt you like that
regard stef

The PDA2K is still the best device if you need a mobile log typing unit. It's beacuse of the built in keyboard and the big portrait format screen (wich is the best if you have to to type in lists, contact data a.s.o.). This unique feature is the reason why I can't change my PPC.
Win 6.5 for me is not so important, there are few drawbacks compared to WM2003SE (no build in Excel encryption, less usable screen area (because of hotkeys), no direct menus in office applications.

install wm5, when you get bored install SPB Mobile Shell, when you get bored again change the color of the menu
seriously its quite nice app, have nice launcher etc... try it...

Thanks
Don't get me wrong I love it but just feel I'm missing something as I'm sure it's capable of so much more.
I'll take the advice and have a play with upgrading, do current 2003 apps such as my TomTom run on the upgrades. Even if not I think I'll give it a go anyway.
Thanks again for the replies

Yes it works on new WM version
I think he becomes unconfortable of the buggy WMG.S (or 6.5 we use other names cause Mycrosooft hunts us) you need to taste first WM6... then 6.1 his manilla 2D is great... and then G.S is beta but fine... try it all but men
follow everything step by step at upgrading please if you have any question ask here please.

Not so Boring now
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.

tjpearson said:
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.
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Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.

No idea
Hiya pdahunter,
I have no idea what you mean or what your advising.
All I want is to surf and keep important notes plus store my gadget PDF manuals plus photography bumph.
Hey ho going for a bath now and then bed, tomos night going to watch United win, I hope, so won't be able to look at this again til Thursday night.
Hope I've no fkd this Pocket PC up with what I've done.

come on guys!!!! why always this ends like this F***N S**T THINGS!!!
EGZTHUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on men! make your job here please...
I will prepare the scene for you a little...
@pearson
First of all please tell us wich ROM did u upload... again... please full charge your batt before UPGRADE...
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
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Men write exactly the error message please, Meaning it says this... I guess i need to do.... I think my problem is... are worthless words here please provide exact messages. (does you enable the checkbox advanced network on setting usb settings?)
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons.
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The white screen cant be posible men... I will xplain you the new OS built..
If I can guess what you've upgrade... I mean I nedd to know wich ROM are you upgrade please provide the name or the link where you find it...
FIRST: The OS 2003 didnt has the soft buttons PHONE at left bottom and right at right bottom cause the new OS are designed for PDA phones that has buttons on that place... thats all... ok.
SECOND: you said that when you tap on start it tooks you to a black screen with icons i gueeeeeeees you have WM6.5 cause since WM2003 we had start cascade menu like windows XP or VISTA or Whatever... Thats normal on WM6.5 if you want the older start menu? just... downgrade a WM6 or 6.1 it has the older start menu.
THIRD:
If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
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Well the boot screen is hardcoded in roms so... is not an issue is normal we can only change the splashscreen...
known new features and pro's for a new ROM tooks its time men I mean new apps and programs are not supported with WM2003 so this is the very first pro of upgrading...
You are not stuck on bootloader or... are you on a black screen with Serial or USB upside and downside a version... it is BOOTLOADER not the RGB screen! ok?
if it cant boots and it cant pass trough the tricolor screen well seems you need to upgrade again maybe your batt was dead on middle process and it dont have enough batt to boot... but maybe you dont wait the time... or maybe you need reupgrade a rom...
Dont be so alarmed men your device is fine calm down you are not brick jejeje
@PDAHUNTER
Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.
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Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
+ Que PPC

+ Que PPC said:
@PDAHUNTER
Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
+ Que PPC
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1. I did not change nor delete anything here.
2. Again, why change the OS to a Version the device is not made for. The only reason I can see is a better system GUI or new applications with a better GUI. That's why I suggest to take a iPhone if this is important.
3. I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
But as soon somebody speaks about WM6 on the BA the focus changes to trouble shouting.
4. Why it's not helpful to say "Don't change the OS version if you search for better use cases!" ?

Great!! you have your OWN ANSWER
I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
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EXACTLY! thats why OS upgrading imports... thats why this matters!
So does A2dp run on wm2003... noup!!!! it runs till wm5 aku version upgrade...
Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...!

Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...! [/QUOTE]
correct...did you do a HARD reset afhter flashing?

jejejejejejejeje
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Sorry, Sorry, Sorry
WOH I didn't mean to upset anyone here, I'm learning.
Have no idea of what I'm doing apart from trying to update my BA to surf the net faster, be better to use and so I don't have to soft reset every 2 minutes. This is my 1st attempt, if I've gone in too deep then tell me, I'll back grade to 2003 and start again with whatever you recommend.
You know your stuff so stay friendly, calm down and I can help you set up race suspension on a Yamaha R6 for the best cornering Or if you want advice on patching a Technomate Satellite box I'm your man.
I will go back to 2003 and you tell me what to update, cos you are the men that know, I defo don't, nice one !!

Oh jpearson you are not the one in troubles here...
Well... I can tell you every steps but men.... Im on my job...
So i havent enough time to post here the process... but if you accept i can add you via MSN just PM me dont post your email here...
If not you just need to be sure follow this steps exactly how is said if you have any question ask here please ok
let me search for the link.