does anyone know if its possible to unlock your phone to the network 3 in the UK? i mean 3g, or hutchinson 3, www.three.co.uk?
i had my phone unlocked to put orange etc on it but my 3 sim card still doesnt work
anyone?............
The Artemis is a 2.5g phone. 3 is a 3g only network. Older 3 USIM's used to work in 2.5g phones, but that ment you were roaming all the time and incurred a cost to 3, so they clamped down on it, and suspended all accounts that appeared to be permanently roaming and issued out the new USIM cards which just don't work on 2.5g phones.
If you want to be on 3, you need a new phone like the Kaiser or any other UMTS capable HTC device.
thats what i thought oo but i have my new 3 sim working in an unlocked nokia 6230i??? thast why i thought it was still possible somehow
Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.
Starting this thread to help document the specific findings and phone behaviour along with network quirks.
So we have a base line I am on Mobilicity with their $55 unlimited everything (calls, texts, data) plan which I went for the 50% off promo and it's $27.50 a month. I just picked up the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 last night (already have the Lumia 710 from Rogers) and was lucky enough to pay for an unlock code and receive it in 35 minutes last night as well.
Other details are that I seem to be picking up CDN Roaming as a network and the other networks diplayed are Bell and Telus (no Rogers showing network). It could be showing CDN Roaming since it a Rogers phone unlocked, but my 710 does show Mobilicity. The 900 is lacking the Nokia Network Setup app and it's no longer downloadable from the Market Place. My 710 did have the app preinstalled.
I was having some significant issues with the phone last night. Not sure if it was me, the phone or the network. I did bring it to work and had a chance to show a co-worker the phone after 5PM. I told him what was going on. He says pop in the SIM and lets' see. Well... I now get CDN Roaming all the time and had to turn on roaming to get it to that state. Bars are anywhere from 2 to 4. Also trying to make an actual call, the bars will disappear and a small "do not enter" symbol is over the greyed out bars, but the call is still connected !! I will check my Mobilicity account to see if the phone is actually roaming, or the phone is just telling me it's roaming but its actually not.
Data does work as I tried basic web surfing on the browser, but it seems quite slow. Not sure if there's any tweaking I can do. So it does work but in a quirky way. I will now continue to fiddle with it to see what I can do for improvements.
Any comments or suggestions, please write them here.....
also I'm adding a pic of the phone label to show the bands that are listed from the factory. Not sure how I can confirm if these frequency bands are correct or not.
okay, definately there is no way of connecting from home location. I either get "no service" or "Emergency Only" displayed on the phone. I also checked on the calls I was able to make earlier today with a co-worker and they were billed as roaming calls. Not looking to promising that this phone will work. Will give it another half hour but the fact that the 4 calls I made today were billed as roaming calls, is putting a damper on things.
Did you end up calling Nokia?
That would be the only real way to find out if Band 4 (1700/2100) is capable of non-LTE connection.
Also, the Nokia Network Setup app only adjusts SMS, voicemail, and data settings. I don't think it would help in this situation.
No... didn't want to call Nokia until I could confirm performance. It's definately not working correctly at home location. My Lumia 710 works perfectly. I wonder if it could be the same issue of connections that the AT&T units have? Seems AT&T and Rogers are giving account holders $100 for the trouble.
I think I am just going to return it unless somone in the forum wants to buy it from me ? I will throw in the unlock for free ! Although it seems it would only work for Bell and Telus.
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No... didn't want to call Nokia until I could confirm performance. It's definately not working correctly at home location. My Lumia 710 works perfectly. I wonder if it could be the same issue of connections that the AT&T units have? Seems AT&T and Rogers are giving account holders $100 for the trouble.
I think I am just going to return it unless somone in the forum wants to buy it from me ? I will throw in the unlock for free ! Although it seems it would only work for Bell and Telus.
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It should work on the sub-operators like Fido, Koodo, etc, too.
despite what the label on the box reads, here is the official Nokia Canada website....
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
The 1700/2100 are definately LTE.
PaullikesWINMO said:
despite what the label on the box reads, here is the official Nokia Canada website....
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
The 1700/2100 are definately LTE.
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I've contacted Nokia via both email and twitter asking if LTE Band 4 is backwards compatible with W-CDMA. We shall see...
Hey bud i just got one too in black. Tried it out on wind mobile. Exact same problem. Luckily Bell/Chatr/Fido work.
I heard about this baseband modification thing. I really like this phone and hope i can get it to work on Wind. I just upgraded from the HD7... well i still use it cause wind wont work on this.
I just got off the phone with Nokia and they told me that the Lumia 900 does indeed support Band 4 with WCDMA.
So either the lady I talked to was wrong, or there is something else going on here.
All I know is it was not working for me.
And trust me I've have plenty of cell phones and smart phones over the years. I suffered enough with a Rogers Samsung Focus on FIDO long enough that iIwasn't putting up with any kind of non-compatibility. So yes the label says one thing and that's why I bought it, but I have to go with the specs listed on the Nokia Canada website this time around.
BTW... sold the phone on Kijiji within 4 hours !
have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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I sold the phone long ago so can't test anything else. Maybe once Rogers releases the update and if somone want to unlock their phone, I am willing to test with my SIM card. Yes it was a regular sim cut down to microSIM (works in my lumia 710).
This ad seems to suggest the 900 works on Mobilicity !?
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...-Mobilicity-Phones-SPECIAL-W0QQAdIdZ372455155
I've send them an email but I doubt they will respond.
Is there anyone out there with an unlocked Rogers Nokia Lumia that has been updated willing to let me test my Mobilicity SIM card ? Or alternatively, I'm willing to pay for an unlock code if I can do some testing with your phone. The unlock code should be $9 or less anyway. If you are in Markham/Richmond Hill area (north of Toronto) and willing to try, let me know.
I don't have Wind/Mobilicity line, but I noticed when I search for available networks on my Lumia 900 (which btw I am using on a TELUS line), neither Wind nor Mobilicity show up as available network. All it shows is Bell, Telus and Rogers.
Mobilicity on unlocked 900 - a work in progress
Hello good folks.
I've been reading XDA for awhile but stayed quiet in the background until I have something good to share.
Quick background: I've mod iphone 2G, 3G, Andriod Galaxy Nexus S, and worked on WP7 and WP 7.5 on the Lumia 800, 900 and HTC HD7. I have active Bell, Rogers and Mobilicity lines for testing.
I went through hell and back to try to get the 900 to work on Mobilicity and still with no success, yet.
Here's the snippet:
I cut my Mobilicity normal SIM chip with razor sharp hair shear to the micro sim chip size. I made sure the SIM chip board marking lined up with another Micro-sim I had;
Popped in the now downsized Mobilicity SIM into the Rogers Lumia 900;
It recognizes it as an active chip and displays the locked phone message;
I went to cellunlocker dot net to purchase the unlock code for $16;
Voila, phone is now unlocked;
Inserted in the mobilicity chip and it doesn't pick up the network automatically;
Tried switching network setting to AUTO\ 4G, reboot then 3G, reboot then Edge... nothing worked. Then tried the same series of testing with Network Selection for each network type;
Punched in dial code to access the field test area ##3282# ;
In 3G WDCMA, it shows "RRCStatus Disconnected" even though it picks up all the other settings in the WCDMA field. Crap!
Went to Mobilicity to get an official Micro-SIM designed for their 710, just in case the cutting affected the chip. No success;
Had them activate their micro sim chip. No success;
I called up Nokia support and they couldn'tr troubleshoot it. They also tried the explanation that if I unlocked the phone that they would not TS it but I said I am working for Mr Ballmer and was doing test case studies with this phone and needed it to work in unlock mode. I also indirecty worked for Rogers too on a different technology, so I could easily contacted who I needed to inside Rogers for the unlock code if need be (I would need a name though).
So the conversation continued and they directed me to go to the Nokia service center in Newmarket Ontario;
Hopped into the car and drove while I still had the official active micro-sim from mobilicity and checking it during the drive to see if it picks up any signal.
Passing north of Toronto into the Aurora area, I noticed the phone automatically picked up the CDN Roaming labelled network! I tried dialing out, failed.
I arrived at the service center, called Flextronic (213 Harry Walkers Parkway South, Newmarket, Ontario);
Long story short, the engineer did not know how to work on or troubleshoot the Nokia 900 yet. He said usually Nokia would send down their own engineer to train Flextronic on how to TS and code configure the 900. They currently only knew the 710. I asked if anything he knew from the 710 could help configure the 900 RRCStatus from disconnected to connected, says no.
Drove back south to Toronto and once I entered TO, I lost the CDN Roaming connection and it could no longer pick up any network.
Side Note:
Once the 900 was code unlocked, I was able to plug in my Bell micro-sim and it worked.
I pluged in my Rogers micro-sim and it worked too for obvious reason.
I wished we weren't stuck with the Rogers version of the OSPL. It annoys me to even see the Rogers logo when it boots up. My 800 is direct from Nokia marketing so it's never been locked and doesn't have any carrier mucking with the OS or the OSPL. Unfortunately it doesn't support the Band IV, 1700 wave.
Cheers and hope this saves you time from trying out the steps above.
Great summary !
Yes I too got CDN Roaming in the 404/Major Mackenzie area and actually was able to make calls (had money in the "my wallet" account). It actually charged out as roaming as funds were less in the account when I checked it from home.
Luckily I had limited the calls so I was down about 60 cents.
Rogers probably had the phone programed much like AT&T did so you can't use it on AWS networks. Kind of cuts the competition in half so to speak.
Wish there was a Microsoft store in Canada like they have in the USA, but not sure if the phones would be totally wide open for all networks.
Should be interesting to see what happens during Microsoft's World Partner Conference this coming July in Toronto. I understand there is about 15,000 people from around the world attending. My suspicions are Windows 8 will be launched and there will be more phones and tablets introduced that will run the platform. Should be a spectacle to see. About 7 weeks to go. Can't wait !
PaullikesWINMO said:
Great summary !
Yes I too got CDN Roaming in the 404/Major Mackenzie area and actually was able to make calls (had money in the "my wallet" account). It actually charged out as roaming as funds were less in the account when I checked it from home.
Luckily I had limited the calls so I was down about 60 cents.
Rogers probably had the phone programed much like AT&T did so you can't use it on AWS networks. Kind of cuts the competition in half so to speak.
Wish there was a Microsoft store in Canada like they have in the USA, but not sure if the phones would be totally wide open for all networks.
Should be interesting to see what happens during Microsoft's World Partner Conference this coming July in Toronto. I understand there is about 15,000 people from around the world attending. My suspicions are Windows 8 will be launched and there will be more phones and tablets introduced that will run the platform. Should be a spectacle to see. About 7 weeks to go. Can't wait !
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This model simply does not have HSPA band IV (AWS 1700/2100). The EMEA model lacks LTE, but has pentaband HSPA. You can't use the Rogers or AT&T model (which has the same hardware) on AWS only providers like Mobilicity or WIND.
let's hope a true AWS 1700/2100 model becomes available soon.
This might get slightly off topic but there is a BIG announcement coming from Microsoft on Monday. Likely it's for Microsoft Tablet, but who knows maybe it's more phones in preparation for new OS ?
alextheangel said:
have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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I had my SIM card (Rogers) from my Galaxy Note cut yesterday and it DOES work in my Nokia Lumia 900 with no issues.
Just wanted to advise...
Hello,
I had my M8 replaced under warrenty and received a brand new M8. I am in Australia and use the Telstra network, and they provide network unlocked phones for plan customers, thus this phone isn't network locked.
When I first got it, it kept saying "Invalid Sim Card" on the lock screen for 2 days, and it went away by itself. The tech at the store said at that time they had significant network problems and we're resolved at the same time my phone was playing up. In those 2 days I also replaced the Sim Card and it made no difference.
Flash forward 4 weeks and I went overseas to Germany and the phone worked fine for a few days then again said Invalid Sim Card. No matter how many times I rebooted it I couldn't get it onto the network. Once I returned to Australia it worked fine.
I am now in South Africa and my Australian Telstra Sim Card was working fine but I needed a local number for data, so I purchased a Vodacom sim with data only and it worked straight away. My girlfriend also brought a Vodacom sim for her M10 (same Telstra plan as me) and hers is fine
My sim and phone ran on their networks fine for 12 hours and I wake up this morning and it's now saying "Invalid Sim Card" again. I've tried rebooting it several times with no luck.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I'm not convinced it's the Sim Card tray as it works fine on Australia, only when overseas. I don't know anything about the radio or baseband stuff but it's that related?? What can I check??
I used the IMEI24 website to confirm the phone was unlocked from the carrier, and entering *#*#4636#*#* doesn't show any info as it's not on the network.
Phone is currently unlocked, S-on, TWRP 3.0.2.0, rooted, Marshmallow.
I'm pretty angry as I have an ultra marathon in 2 days, and this phone was to connect my Garmin watch to the internet so my friends and family could track me, and most importantly my girlfriend could find me at the finish.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
matticas said:
I don't know anything about the radio or baseband stuff but it's that related??
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I doubt it has anything to do with radio baseband. GSM bands are pretty standard worldwide, and just about any "quad band" (850, 900, 1800, 1900) GSM phone should get you at least voice and EDGE data services. And all M8 versions support those GSM bands. Therefore, any M8 should get you at least GSM service, regardless of the radio baseband installed.
I wonder if the issue is the SIM modules themselves, and the "overseas" issue is a red herring? My thought is, that maybe the overseas SIMs you purchased don't quite fit as well as your local (Australian) SIM. One thing you can try, is put some Scotch tape on the SIM (on the side without the gold contacts) and see if that "fattens" up the SIM enough to make better contact. Be careful not to get tape stuck in SIM slot/tray. I've seen this trick work for some folks with the Invalid SIM error.
I decided to get US Unlocked version of Note10+. It has the most comprehensive LTE band compatibility among all models which benefits T-Mobile users. But I do like the dual sim option offered in other oversea models since I need to receive verification text message from another international sim occasionally.
Came across Simore Speed ZX-Twin Galaxy Note 10+ dual sim adapter. Its basically a tiny piggyback that should fit inside a case. Has anyone used similar device? How is battery consumption and LTE speed impact if any?
I looked at a video online. Looks like it works. What I cannot tell is if you can recover calls on both numbers all the time, or if the switch to the second SIM is the equivalent of removing one sim and inserting another. I have the dual SIM F/DS and both numbers make my.phonr ring any time (unless I'm on a call but I can direct the other to VM, or do a follow me to the number I'm on). I agree that it misses certain bands (which I'm sure results in me not getting great data speed in the US), but it's a compromise.