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Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34
Those numbers seem low to me... I've had the opposite experience. When I had the stock 8525 from Cingular, I could only manage about 36 hours on it. The leaked Cingular AKU 3 build gave me about 42~44 hours. WM6 builds using Radio 1.34 gave me just under 48 hours. Radio 1.38 was a step backwards in giving me just under 20 hours of battery life. So far with the new Cingular radio, I am still going on my last charge from Saturday morning, so easily 60+ hours (I'm at 30% charge left now).
I'm always on 3G and have direct push pushing about 200 emails a day. My voice calls only total my 20 minutes a day with bluetooth on continuously.
Much depends on your signal strength - I have full strength at work and at home. Another person I know who has the 8525 and only half strength signals has their battery life cut by 40%...
Batt Life
I switched over from the generic Cingular radio rom (acquired the device back in beginning of Dec 06) to Black 2.0 with the latest and greatest radio rom. I have to say... My batt life trebled with this new configuration on 3g. Used to be that just a couple of phone calls with push mail, and my battery would be pretty low after 3-4 hours. Sorry that I can't be more specific, but I am loving the new config.
-Humbert
i went to 1.4...i have terrible battery life...any suggestions?
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
please buy a new battery
With Black 2 and 1.35.00.11 my battery life is better than wm5 (about 30%)with an old Vodafone (primitive) radio...
EDIT
with wm5 and old radio about 25/30 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection: 4hrs)
wm6 black 2 radio 1.35.00.11 about 40 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection now about 5 hrs)
I use Black v2.0, 3G email and bluetooth a couple of hours a day, not much calls, and my battery won't make it through the day...
I get around 6-8 hrs this way, and before Black (WM5 Tytn, default ROM's) it was even worse...
Guess that's not right
edit: It appears that I'm not the only one having these problems. Guess it's kinda odd that some ppl have 40+ hrs, and some others 4+ with the same device. Any ideas on this one?
i have the same problem too, with the newest lvsw an black roms.
no problem with latest htc wwe rom.
regards chief
luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I have the same problem when I run IM+, that program seems to destroy my battery in a few hours. If I don't use it, I can get a couple of days out of my battery with maybe 20 or so texts a day,e-mail being checked every 15 min, some light internet browsing, and maybe 20 minutes of phone usage.
Upgrading to the 1.40.30 radio seems to have helped helped a lot. I used to have to charge daily on 1.38 and 1.34. Now it is every two, or so.
luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I don't use im+ personally but I know a few people who do and it can drain the battery.
I recently upgraded to the 1.4 radio (using lvsw 4/8) and that improved my battery. What REALLY helped though was removing the a2dp.exe from the start-up. This is a utility that may help a2dp quality. i personally have not experienced the a2dp issues that some have so this utility didn't do much in my case- and the battery life is much better now. if you are using lvsw 3/24 though, i think this utility was not included yet.
I am a med to heavy user- 2 hours .wma playback a day over stereo bluetooth. bluetooth always on. 1 hour or so web usage and emails all day. My battery used to die at around 7:00pm but now it will last through the day with 20% to go before i turn in at 10:30ish.
If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
scioni said:
Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34
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Any suggestions about the RADIO?
jasjamming said:
If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
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Hi Jasjamming,
thanks for your reply, and compliment for the BLACK 2.0 ROM!
I'm very happy of this ROM: fast and stable
About the battery, do you have some suggestions on the RADIO?
For instance, the two WM6 ROMs, which I have tested, were with the same RADIO (1.34), but I have noticed some performance degradation ...
In your experience, increasing the RADIO version, the battery life is improved?
Otherwise, I will try to come back to older RADIO version.
Ciao,
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
ROM: Black 2.0
RADIO: 1.34
Bit of a Trick Question
There are so many things that effect batt life. Everyone will use their devices differently for different purposes. So its really hard to properly survey this.
My original WM5 rom n radio gave me about a day and half down to less than a day depending on the amount and length of calls. Also wifi usage dramatically decreased batt life.
My current config of BE 2.0 and Radio 1.40 gives me 2 days of juice but again if I make alot of calls it can still be drained in a day. Use wifi a few times as well and it will be charging in under 8 hours. I have bluetooth on permanently.
If you really want long batt life lend your hermes to your mum or grandfather.
You may not even notice
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).
LazPL said:
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).
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That's what I experience as well. In flight mode, my battery drains about 10% in 8 hours, and (as I posted above) while the radio is turned on, it's down to zero in the same amount of time. I live in an area with HSDPA coverage, but also have the 1.38 radio. So while that is one of the latest radio's, my battery life is horrible.
K-Mile
Have your tried switching your band to gsm instead of Auto?
This doubled my battery life.
I now only turn on High speed if and when I need it. Rest of the time am quite happy with lower speed.
Another important factor that drains battery is your mobile operator - different operators implement it differently - eg in Japan, on NTT Docomo/Softbank networks my x01ht's battery's life was excellent. In Malaysia, under Maxis it sucks. So this comparison doesn't really hold. You can only compare if i you're on :
1. same ROM
2. same radio
3. same network (!)
Last week i went from radio 1.38.00.11 to 1.40.00.30 and i have noticed a huge increase in battery life. Im sure its lasting at least twice as long on 40 as it was on 38! Not installed anything new since changing the radio and i run on GSM only as vodafone has bugger all 3G in my area. I recomend radio 1.40.30.00 to anyone who is suffering with battery life, but as ever, please read everything before flashing as i wouldnt want anyone to brick their phone
Hi,
I have Black 2.0 installed, My battery drains fast (Radio 1.38). With Radio 1.40 my battery drains faster.
Regards,
Taguapire.
Am on 1.16 radio, had WM5, when hammered the phone would last ~ 16 hours maybe, this was with 3G enabled...
Upgraded to WM6, manually in 'G' mode, mainly use texting and emails, ~ 10 texts a day and ~10 emails, push permanently on, plus odd surfing, lots of calender and scheduling, ~30 minute calls etc. will only lose 10% battery life a day! Amazing! Was only down to 80% by day 2, but then I usually charge anyway so havent tried a full 100%-0% rundown.
So I guestimate with light use it should run for at least....a week without needing a charge.
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
I think this would be more your device...
To check this, go back to your manufacturers ROM, and see if the same still happens. Also try this test with no 3rd party applications installed.
Poor battery life is usually cause by either:
1) Applications using 100% CPU
2) Faulty ROM
3) Faulty Phone or Battery.
If you're tried multiple ROMs, I'd say you can rule out #2.
I get around 2 1/2 days out of the stock 1350mAh battery on my hermes.
Hi
ygeller , i had some battery life problems with my hermes and i found on another thread some ppl saying to first flash the ATT rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship
and then the cooked one. That worked wonders for me, the radio version 1.54.07.00 is the best i tryed so far for battery life and network stability.
I'am using the latest PDAViet rom and no problems so far, with battery holding for 2 to 3 days with normal use.
ygeller said:
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
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Please try another radio, i used always the newest en I got the poorest battery performance! Now I use 1.47.30.10 in combination with PDAVIET roms and now my battery holds a day of 2/ 2,5!!
u are not alone
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
I agree that I get better battery life with the 1.47.30.0, in addition to aquiring a signal faster. The BIGGEST fix for me however was replacing my year old battery with a good quality Li-ion battery. Now I go a full day with hardly any drain using anybody's ROM, of course YMMV
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
froos said:
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
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I've been on the current Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] ROM for a while and indeed the battery drains very quick- I've had to schedule Exchange email to be on for 2 hours now but a simple 20-30 min voice call drains the battery by about 30-40%!
I was on Schap's ROM but was waiting for his latest update. Will have to consider another one.
I have also had the same issue as people here with the battery running down very quickly.I did try going back to schaps 4.31 but did not seems to make a difference anymore.Will try going nack to standard rom and then changed to cooked and post if there is any difference.
are u guys serious? 2.5days out of the stock battery?
my battery is a 1300mAH and i get a week and a bit on standby, constant txting wifi, screwing around, i get at least 4 days.
now that i have a 1650mAH i cant even kill it in a day (wifi bluetooth and gsm all going at the same time)
theres a 3000mAH battery coming in the mail, if im gentle with it it should last.... 0.5 months?
riyazhyder said:
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
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you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
I also had a severe battery drain with several 6.1 ROMS. My main culprit was caused my certain applications not closing properly and running at 50%-100% CPU. The main apps were Internet Explorer, Windows Live, Poutlook, basically network based apps. For some reason the app wouldn't show up as running. It wasn't until I got a new task manager that showed "processes" that I found the culprit. I would make sure all these processes were "killed" and my battery life lasted a lot longer.
I eventually went back to a 6.0 ROM, as I couldn't take all the problems.
pr5owner said:
you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
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Unfortunately, I've done that without planning. I am constantly fully charging the phone - then it drains and dies after a few morning phone calls...
This doesn't help...
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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Have Flashed ATT, then PDA Corner Pro V3. I didn't have much faith in the voodoo of flashing the official ROM to magically repair stuff - and so far I can't say that I've seen much change...
too bad...
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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You put PDA into bootloder mode and the flash, no need to jumpthrough hoops.
Actually the AT&T Official has repaired numerous bad flashes for me, is a lifesaver.
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months. Before that, I had the stock Cingular 8525 WM5 Rom, and many of the cooked WM6 ones, starting with an early Black, a couple of Custel's, Sleuth's, and a few others. I now use personal derivations of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom that I have been cooking up over the past few months.
I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
I must ask, when others say they get 2 or more DAYS out of a charge with "normal use", please define what "normal use" is for you.
My "normal use" includes checking 4 email boxes, one of them push, one at at 30 minute intervals, and two hourly. I use PocketWeather, which I have doing updates at 30 minute intervals for 4 locations. 1-calc updates monetary exchange rates daily. I make/receive only a couple of phone calls daily (yes, a BIG battery-killer), and I rarely receive text messages. No MMS at all. I utilize Bluetooth devices during my commutes in both directions, only use WiFi at home (another big battery drainer, but since I'm at home, it doesn't matter). I keep the IR port turned off unless I'm actively using it. I am on the internet with my device every chance I get, using the normal AT&T WAP access point with an unlimited plan.
I feel that with the amount of usage I get out of my device (especially Internet and emails), I can accept the poor battery performance.
But I am curious ... those of you who claim much higher numbers for battery life under "normal usage" ... please explain what "normal usage" means to you. I have never seen anything close to the numbers that have been posted by many.
FWIW, my two batteries are: 1 stock 1300mAh, and one is a Boxwave 1350 mAh. Both are well over a year old.
-pvs
pvs said:
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months...
...I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
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I'm forced to agree with pvs. I'm in a very similar situation: I use the stock AT&T WM6 ROM, although I've used a couple of other ROMs and Radios before this.
If I set my 8525 to auto-poll my 4 mailboxes every 15-60 minutes, I always notice a definite decrease in battery life. In the beginning, I'd get the "low battery" notification before I even left work late in the afternoon (this is after getting a full charge the night before). In between then and now, I turned off auto-polling. I couldn't get any new mail unless I did a manual send/receive...but my battery life improved dramatically; I could get nearly two full days' usage out of it before having to charge at night.
I was fairly confident it had something to do with that data-connection required to update the mail, and I feel that it's confirmed: 3 days ago, I found a registry edit that turns off the 3G/data connection after being idle so many minutes (I have mine set to 2 mins). I can now auto-poll my boxes, but my battery life has decreased again...not QUITE as bad as before, but I pretty much have to charge it every night, now.
(Additional "normal" usage for me has always included using Bluetooth for a headset and several calls during the day, varying in length...around 30-50 minutes total talk time, if I had to guess.)
Frankly, I'm surprised at the people who say they're able to leave their data connection on all day (even if it's sending no data in certain moments) and see no appreciable battery-drain. This is my second 8525 and second battery, and my experience has remained the same.
I was going to try and find some sort of push EMail solution...but to make matters worse, I've been doing research and unless I'm misunderstanding things, it looks like WM6's version of "Push EMail" requires that "constantly-on" data connection. I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
If someone can come up with some alternative ideas, I'd love to hear them, but...even though I love my 8525...my patience is starting to wear thin with it.
(ATT WM6 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
Superion said:
I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
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If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
bartybet said:
If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
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Good grief. Is this the consensus of everyone? I'd hate to give up my 8525, since it has Windows Mobile versions of what I work with, plus some pretty nifty games and apps...but I want a device I can both work AND play with. So far, the 8525 is falling down on the Work/EMail end.
I've dodged the blackberry for so long because of 1) no touchscreen, 2) it lacks the versatility of a true PC (ideally, PCs can be used for work and play; blackberries seem meant primarily for work). Plus, I don't know if the Blackberry's "push" EMail features will work any better with my particular mailboxes (i.e., it may have to constantly "poll" those boxes as well, which may result in similar battery drain).
BTW: It's noon here, after 3-4 calls this morning (around 25 minutes or so), EMailboxes updating (2 at 30 mins, 2 at 60 mins), Bluetooth off, and having read 2 CNN articles (and closing it right after)...my 8525 is at 70% power. X-(
(ATT WM6 ROM 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks
ianchi said:
Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks
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I'm not sure but may be I'm living same problem its draining. I'm not sure because I started to use push mail same time with this Radio.
Pushmail+3G is really a horrible battery drain in general. No wonder. Data connection is up all the time and a PING is sent every 15 seconds from push server (if you use Z-Push as I do).
Option A: disable 3G for most of the time. If you surf enable 3G.
Option B: use 1.08.25.20 which gives me the best pushmail + 3G battery life so far. I always go back to 1.08.25.20
P.S. I think most people from the radio thread aren't using pushmail. So I would take their battery life tests with a huge grain of salt.
No, absolutely no battery drain.
(not more than others)
Here in Europe (Netherlands), same radio ver and Z-Push with 3G on.
If I do not receive / make calls I can _easily_ get 48hours out a full charge.
If I turn 3G off (as I also do most of the time) I can get 2 days without recharging even with busy work days (SMSing and calling quite a lot).
If your diamond is also generating a lot of heat, I'd say it isn't the reception or radio, but a process / program on the ROM is using the cpu at full strength all the time... then the battery won't last long whatever you do.
If I run TomTom on the battery (full time CPU and GPS usage) with the phone turned off, I can drain my full battery in 2 hours .
the radio works fine for me, and if you use push mail of course the battery will drain much faster...
what is push mail? download email with pop3?
asticinzano said:
Pushmail+3G is really a horrible battery drain in general. No wonder. Data connection is up all the time and a PING is sent every 15 seconds from push server (if you use Z-Push as I do).
Option A: disable 3G for most of the time. If you surf enable 3G.
Option B: use 1.08.25.20 which gives me the best pushmail + 3G battery life so far. I always go back to 1.08.25.20
P.S. I think most people from the radio thread aren't using pushmail. So I would take their battery life tests with a huge grain of salt.
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you're very right dude
I went to Option B, battery performance is awesome, about 1,5 - 2 days.
Same here [Europe, HSDPA, Exchange mail sync always on]: awful battery life with 1.09.25.23 on the last Dutty and new PDACornerIllusion v.3 ROMs.
I usually go back to 1.08.25.20 after each new radio test but this time running 1.11.25.1 for the last few days and so far very happy with both signal level and battery life.
mgs333 said:
the radio works fine for me, and if you use push mail of course the battery will drain much faster...
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for me too , best radio for Romania
same here, 1.09 it's pretty good, with normal usage i can get to 3-3,5 days.
(some wifi, some push mail, sms & calls) but not through 3g, i've turn it off..
Romania/Vodafone
it drains battery rly fast...with high usage:listening musi for about 2hours with volume set to max, surfing internet during 30minutes, sending some sms...without 3g, then its down !
tomorrow it's my 4-th day, and yesterday i've listened to music like 30min, and sms/call /wifi , today i used the wifi like 30min, voice like 20min, am 5 sms...
@altcineva2009 : What rom are you using ? Where do you live (country) ? And is your 3G set to ON ?
i see they got some problems with the forum.
i'm using the latest official rom, country: Romania, operator: Vodafone, 3g is off, i turn it on only when i need it
ianchi said:
Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks
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I'm suspecting that this radio (1.09.25.23) is not a quad band radio, and it does not support 850MHz band. Open your dial pad and dial *#*#364#*#* and look at the "Band" field, it should show either "3: 850" or "2: PCS" (1900MHz band)
I have 1900MHz towers around my place in South Bay Area, but the signal is significantly weaker than the 850MHz ones. The end result is that it drains the battery faster.
WinMo 6.1 was almost unusable. I switched to a Tael ROM to run 6.5, which was immensely better, especially using Spb Shell 3.5.
How does Android 2.1 compare? I know its a work in progress. I know its better than WinMo 6.1.. but how does it compare to WinMo 6.5 on the Fuze?
Also, I see mostly Android CDMA work being done for Raphael--anyone actively working on the Fuze (GSM) version?
thanks,
RickH
Actually, most of the work is being done by devs with GSM devices. You probably see more CDMA posts because we have more issues Or we're just special ed, either way.
I love Android, but currently it's not a replacement for WinMo - for me. The main reason being the battery life. While the devs have done great work, the battery is just not up to par - I need to run a full day on idle at least before I can switch over to it.
Is there any reason you haven't given it a shot yourself? You don't flash it to NAND, the entire OS just sits on your SD card - literally nil chance of breaking something hardware-wise with the device!
guess it's worth trying
I just need to find the steps and the latest usable build..
Battery life is that great on WinMo 6.5 either.
Often I find apps that I thought I closed are still active. Now I always check whats running before I put it on standby.(hmm wonder if there is an app to autoclose everything and standby the phone..)
BTW, I found when using the GPS in remote areas putting the phone in Flight Mode works wonders for battery life. GPS stays on, but Bluetooth, phone service, WiFi, are all off.
If you're in an area with poor or no service, turning off the radio will certainly increase performance - one of the main killers of the battery is the phone's radio. If it's constantly searching for a signal or using a lot of power to keep one... you get the point.
Battery life in Android is not on-par with WinMo. At least not for CDMA devices, some on GSM report 10-12hrs of battery life.
Were you having an issue finding builds? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751 - that thread, first three posts or so have all the stuff you'll need.
Ive found that on my fuze, winmo 6.5 is horrid, but its got the only reliable battery life i need. I text like 24/7, so on android my battery is gone in an hour or two, while on winmo itll last atleast 8 hours, as long as i got my wifi off and got my screen's brightness turned down.
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
AkumaMax said:
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
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100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
I have made it on my touch pro at&t！
i got about 3 hours on android, 20 txt messages, about 5minutes on the internet via 3g wifi and gps off, back to the blackberry for now
I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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Yea, the developers really have done an amazing job on this project... Donate to them if you can, they deserve it!
Ryanze said:
100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
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sorry about getting back so late on the reply but I just keep my phone charged as much as possible. Unfortunatly with the new stuff(6/21) the battery is a mega killer so back to winmo untill a more battery friendly build comes out. Allthough I did catch a glimps of a new HTC android phone on AT&T shelves yesterday. Tempted to get it for the low low price of $129.99
Hey guys...im thinking of buying this awesome phone but there is one concern which is the battery life of this phone, i have searched many places, read many reviews, all were mixed. So i decided to open a thread here and ask the actual users of this phone about the battery.
please report how many hours you get wth a single charge and what activities you perform..
im not a very heavy user, but use my wifi from time to time, dont use 3g at ALL, one hour of games. mostly browsing stuff, checking mails,twitter,gplus,news and all.
sorry for making a new thread for this
Thanks in advance
You can't measure battery like that, each user has a unique way of using their phone.
With the usage you describe it will last you until you're back at a charger, at least 12 hrs with 2-3 hrs screen time.
I would consider myself a heavy user. I watch about an hour of video every day via YouTube and have wifi and data always enabled. I do have to say I run a custom rom and kernel and that has significantly improved battery life since I bought it. I usually finish a days use with about 20-40% before charging again. It's hard to say since everyone uses their phones very differently, but compared to other android phones I have owned this is by no means a battery whore (any more).
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Battery life for me is worse than any Android device I've ever owned (see my signature), by far, even with the same amount of usage.
Best ever was my UV/UC Nexus One. I miss that metallic masterpiece.
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RTContent said:
I would consider myself a heavy user. I watch about an hour of video every day via YouTube and have wifi and data always enabled. I do have to say I run a custom rom and kernel and that has significantly improved battery life since I bought it. I usually finish a days use with about 20-40% before charging again. It's hard to say since everyone uses their phones very differently, but compared to other android phones I have owned this is by no means a battery whore (any more).
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
Vangelis13 said:
You can't measure battery like that, each user has a unique way of using their phone.
With the usage you describe it will last you until you're back at a charger, at least 12 hrs with 2-3 hrs screen time.
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i know we cant measure the battery life like that, and its not my first android devices, i have used htc wildfire, and gakaxy i9003.
i was asking compared to others is the battery satisfying ?
You're looking at 3-4 hours of screen on time per day on average.
I've had it last for almost 3 days (very minimal use) or 6 hours (very heavy use, 5hrs 16mins screen on time)
Depends how you use it.
And to ryjabo, the battery life in this is better than the nexus s. Definitely.
The GSM version gets very good battery, especially if you are not a heavy user. The Verizon sprint version gets bad battery. I go 8 hours and have 70% left with 1 hour display time. This phone idles very very well. On wifi all day is even better.
mitchell4500 said:
What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
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Well for starters I have a gsm phone, not lte and I'm sure that helps a lot with battery. Apart from that I'm on cm9s latest build with Francos latest nightly.
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I have the Google Play GSM version, rooted but with no special power tweaks. Yesterday I didn't use it very heavily (< 1 hour screen on), and last night I had 82% remaining after 16.5 hours. That was with wi-fi on all day. It definitely seems like the screen is the most power-hungry component, and it typically accounts for about 50% of my battery usage.
Ryjabo said:
Battery life for me is worse than any Android device I've ever owned (see my signature), by far, even with the same amount of usage.
Best ever was my UV/UC Nexus One. I miss that metallic masterpiece.
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Worse than the EPIC 4G??????? Wow.
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moizsami said:
Hey guys...im thinking of buying this awesome phone but there is one concern which is the battery life of this phone, i have searched many places, read many reviews, all were mixed. So i decided to open a thread here and ask the actual users of this phone about the battery.
please report how many hours you get wth a single charge and what activities you perform..
im not a very heavy user, but use my wifi from time to time, dont use 3g at ALL, one hour of games. mostly browsing stuff, checking mails,twitter,gplus,news and all.
sorry for making a new thread for this
Thanks in advance
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You should expect mixed reviews for this phone. This phone targets developers. Developers know all the intricates of a device and benchmark it against other hardware.
The Gnex is on par with the Photon 4G and has a better battery life than the EPIC 4G. (for me). I stick to stock roms and only change the kernel.
mitchell4500 said:
What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
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Yeah the fact that you're even connected to 4g all day is probably why your battery life sucks. I always stay on 3g when im not on WiFi unless i need to download something or do some browsing or what not.
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If this its not good /great i dont know what it is
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3