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Battery life survey: comparison between WM5 and WM6

Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34

Those numbers seem low to me... I've had the opposite experience. When I had the stock 8525 from Cingular, I could only manage about 36 hours on it. The leaked Cingular AKU 3 build gave me about 42~44 hours. WM6 builds using Radio 1.34 gave me just under 48 hours. Radio 1.38 was a step backwards in giving me just under 20 hours of battery life. So far with the new Cingular radio, I am still going on my last charge from Saturday morning, so easily 60+ hours (I'm at 30% charge left now).
I'm always on 3G and have direct push pushing about 200 emails a day. My voice calls only total my 20 minutes a day with bluetooth on continuously.
Much depends on your signal strength - I have full strength at work and at home. Another person I know who has the 8525 and only half strength signals has their battery life cut by 40%...

Batt Life
I switched over from the generic Cingular radio rom (acquired the device back in beginning of Dec 06) to Black 2.0 with the latest and greatest radio rom. I have to say... My batt life trebled with this new configuration on 3g. Used to be that just a couple of phone calls with push mail, and my battery would be pretty low after 3-4 hours. Sorry that I can't be more specific, but I am loving the new config.
-Humbert

i went to 1.4...i have terrible battery life...any suggestions?

maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours

please buy a new battery
With Black 2 and 1.35.00.11 my battery life is better than wm5 (about 30%)with an old Vodafone (primitive) radio...
EDIT
with wm5 and old radio about 25/30 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection: 4hrs)
wm6 black 2 radio 1.35.00.11 about 40 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection now about 5 hrs)

I use Black v2.0, 3G email and bluetooth a couple of hours a day, not much calls, and my battery won't make it through the day...
I get around 6-8 hrs this way, and before Black (WM5 Tytn, default ROM's) it was even worse...
Guess that's not right
edit: It appears that I'm not the only one having these problems. Guess it's kinda odd that some ppl have 40+ hrs, and some others 4+ with the same device. Any ideas on this one?

i have the same problem too, with the newest lvsw an black roms.
no problem with latest htc wwe rom.
regards chief

luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I have the same problem when I run IM+, that program seems to destroy my battery in a few hours. If I don't use it, I can get a couple of days out of my battery with maybe 20 or so texts a day,e-mail being checked every 15 min, some light internet browsing, and maybe 20 minutes of phone usage.
Upgrading to the 1.40.30 radio seems to have helped helped a lot. I used to have to charge daily on 1.38 and 1.34. Now it is every two, or so.

luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I don't use im+ personally but I know a few people who do and it can drain the battery.
I recently upgraded to the 1.4 radio (using lvsw 4/8) and that improved my battery. What REALLY helped though was removing the a2dp.exe from the start-up. This is a utility that may help a2dp quality. i personally have not experienced the a2dp issues that some have so this utility didn't do much in my case- and the battery life is much better now. if you are using lvsw 3/24 though, i think this utility was not included yet.
I am a med to heavy user- 2 hours .wma playback a day over stereo bluetooth. bluetooth always on. 1 hour or so web usage and emails all day. My battery used to die at around 7:00pm but now it will last through the day with 20% to go before i turn in at 10:30ish.

If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
scioni said:
Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34
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Any suggestions about the RADIO?
jasjamming said:
If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
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Hi Jasjamming,
thanks for your reply, and compliment for the BLACK 2.0 ROM!
I'm very happy of this ROM: fast and stable
About the battery, do you have some suggestions on the RADIO?
For instance, the two WM6 ROMs, which I have tested, were with the same RADIO (1.34), but I have noticed some performance degradation ...
In your experience, increasing the RADIO version, the battery life is improved?
Otherwise, I will try to come back to older RADIO version.
Ciao,
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
ROM: Black 2.0
RADIO: 1.34

Bit of a Trick Question
There are so many things that effect batt life. Everyone will use their devices differently for different purposes. So its really hard to properly survey this.
My original WM5 rom n radio gave me about a day and half down to less than a day depending on the amount and length of calls. Also wifi usage dramatically decreased batt life.
My current config of BE 2.0 and Radio 1.40 gives me 2 days of juice but again if I make alot of calls it can still be drained in a day. Use wifi a few times as well and it will be charging in under 8 hours. I have bluetooth on permanently.
If you really want long batt life lend your hermes to your mum or grandfather.

You may not even notice
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).

LazPL said:
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).
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That's what I experience as well. In flight mode, my battery drains about 10% in 8 hours, and (as I posted above) while the radio is turned on, it's down to zero in the same amount of time. I live in an area with HSDPA coverage, but also have the 1.38 radio. So while that is one of the latest radio's, my battery life is horrible.

K-Mile
Have your tried switching your band to gsm instead of Auto?
This doubled my battery life.
I now only turn on High speed if and when I need it. Rest of the time am quite happy with lower speed.

Another important factor that drains battery is your mobile operator - different operators implement it differently - eg in Japan, on NTT Docomo/Softbank networks my x01ht's battery's life was excellent. In Malaysia, under Maxis it sucks. So this comparison doesn't really hold. You can only compare if i you're on :
1. same ROM
2. same radio
3. same network (!)

Last week i went from radio 1.38.00.11 to 1.40.00.30 and i have noticed a huge increase in battery life. Im sure its lasting at least twice as long on 40 as it was on 38! Not installed anything new since changing the radio and i run on GSM only as vodafone has bugger all 3G in my area. I recomend radio 1.40.30.00 to anyone who is suffering with battery life, but as ever, please read everything before flashing as i wouldnt want anyone to brick their phone

Hi,
I have Black 2.0 installed, My battery drains fast (Radio 1.38). With Radio 1.40 my battery drains faster.
Regards,
Taguapire.

Am on 1.16 radio, had WM5, when hammered the phone would last ~ 16 hours maybe, this was with 3G enabled...
Upgraded to WM6, manually in 'G' mode, mainly use texting and emails, ~ 10 texts a day and ~10 emails, push permanently on, plus odd surfing, lots of calender and scheduling, ~30 minute calls etc. will only lose 10% battery life a day! Amazing! Was only down to 80% by day 2, but then I usually charge anyway so havent tried a full 100%-0% rundown.
So I guestimate with light use it should run for at least....a week without needing a charge.

How long is your battery lasting with WM6?

I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?

What Radio version are you using
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.

skhorchid said:
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.
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Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.

Latest Artemis Radio Rom
shawndh said:
Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.
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Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...

Thanx for the link. I missed that post. I guess I just run USPL first, then this? My last ROM upgrade had the USPL prog included in it. Is there a link for just the USPL or do I need to run that at all?

If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.

meschle said:
If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.
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Thanx but I just ran SPL anyway, and updated the radio. Everything went well.
After running USPL, I had the problem again with the slow scrolling that I posted about before. Everthing was just running really slow. Then, after I upgraded the radio, it was fast again. (I have no idea why this happens) THen I turned on the phone and TomTom (without Quick GPS) and got 3 to 4 sats in my house for the first time in like 1min. That was the fastest ever. Does this radio version improve GPS as well or is this just a coincidence? However, I'm just happy that I don't have to hard reset again. Will test the battery life tomorrow. Thanx.
BTW: Where do you look to see the SPL version on the phone?

Maybe a coincidence - spl on first splash screen

I haven't noticed any differences. My radio version is 2.98.90, I don't know if it was that to start with or it came with the B&B 4.2 upgrade. I get about 1.5 days with moderate to heavy use, and just about 2 days max.

how do you install this?

hi guys!
Same problem with Battery life on Artemis with WM6!
with WM5, i sure got 2-3 days. and now its just upto one day. By evening my battery is down to 15-30%.
I have tried draining the battery completely and then charging it all night, but this doesnt improve battery life either.
I am using Radio 2.98.90

Hello,
my radio version is 2.98.90 too, and at home, I haven't a really good GSM-receipt (I hope, you'll understand me, my English is terrible). That's the reason why my battery time is really short. Try to disable the GSM and look, if your runtime is much longer.

shawndh said:
I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?
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Hi Guys, my battery is running fine, around 3 days but if i enable battery status to the today screen, it starts to eat the battery like hell, any ideas ?

petervbeck said:
Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...
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Looks like my battery life has improved a little. After 8hrs of medium use, I still had 69% batt life. Pretty good. But I also have to report two incidences where I could not answer a call or make a call- reset needed. Got a message saying that the signal may not be avail and I had a full signal?! This has never happened before this radio upgrade. Any reports of this from others?
Other than that, everything else seems fine. May try to reflash later on if I still have this problem, but if it still persists, I'll look for another radio. Not being able to answer calls is a real PIA in business if you know what I mean.

i just tried removing battery status from the today screen and my battery life is good again.... could this be a problem then?

so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!

Battery life is good. With GPS and 234Mhz 6hours.

patterns said:
so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!
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I'm still testing but so far, after upgrading my radio to 2.98.90, I'm at 74% by the end of the day with moderate use. I'm trying to keep the same ROM and not hard reset for a while to see if it improves more (I like to drain the battery to the end and then recharge) . So, I'm at like 2 days with the new radio. This is sufficient for me since I keep a charger around anyway.

Battery life ist around 6-8 days!
Plain WM6 (from o2) firmware with BatteryStatus, Calendar+ on today screen. Bluetooth and WLAN off, some SMS a week, around 5-10 minutes telephone calls a week. Using calendar and contacts regularly some times a day. Using Tomeraider, iSilo, Mobipocket, TomTom/NoniGPSPlot, etc. some times a week. No other system utilities beside BatteryStatus installed!
Surfing over WLAN: battery is empty after 2-3 hours.
I have no problems
Regards,
Manuel
PS: Background light is faulty since last week: background light is completely off on setting 1+2, sometimes even on setting 3, and it flickers permanently. Xda Orbit goes back to o2 next week.

pending programs
Hi,
if you have a battery drain problem you should check your programs first. There are some which really cause high consumption in the background...
so anyone complaining should list his installed progs!

Radio Hermes Problem

Hi,
which is the latest hermes radio upgrade ?
Thanks

1.54.30.10

Radio Problem ????
It would be to your benifit to explain your problem a little mor so that we can help you a better than just a radio build as there may be more to your situation than we know and the you could be back with a no GSM or "briked" device so the more you let us know the more help you can recieve.
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Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.

Good place to ask
Been scouring the net for an hour now to trying to get an idea of what Radio Rom would be best for me, thought this might be a good thread to butt in on
I currently have 1.43 with Schaps 4.30 ROM, using T-Mobile in the UK.
Is there a better Radio ROM out there for me? Any improvements to signal would be nice, especially data seeing as it's my main source for the internet at the moment (just moved, broadband is taking too long to get active )

Well , 1.54 is newer than yours based on the #. It might be worth a whirl to try the at&t dialer and see if it works? you could always go back to 1.43 if necessary

I think that's what I'll do, hesitated after reading a few threads that didn't paint the 1.54 ROM's in a good light, but like you say can always go back.

Just to give my 2 cents worth, I was using 1.54.07 since June 2007, It performed very well for me except for whenever I had no reception for an extended period. Once I returned to an area with reception I would have to Soft Reset else my Hermes would not find a signal again. After reading the recent bad reps for 1.54, I decided to downgrade to 1.43 again. What I have noticed since downgrading is the batt is no longer lasting me as long. Normally I have 60-70% batt life left after a normal day with 1.54.07, now I see only 30-40% batt remaining.
See Mr Vanx's report for his current tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933

Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
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ryaske..... thanks brother just trying to give a little back to a community that has helped me so much

I have a serious Radio Problem...
The battery lasts only 2 hours tops whith the Radio ON, and 3-4 hours in standby.
Ofcourse, the when the Radio is OFF it goes back to the normal consumption rate...
Can anyone help me?
Details:
ROM: Official WM6 (3.54.255.3)
Radio: 1.48.00.10

Is there any problem with radio 1.54.07.00 and battery drain?
I have Cingular 8525 and the battery last at most 6-8 hours, with less than 15 minutes of usage in the entire day.
I had the latest official Rom from AT&T, but last night tried Schap's Rom 4.31 to see if there was any difference. But the battery drains as fast as it used to.
My previous device was an 8125 and I could have the device without a recharge for 2-3 days. This one hardly last a days work.

3G
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.

Having tried them all, 1.40.30.00 radio is by FAR the most battery efficient and stable for MS Push email IMO.

Here is a list of all the radios. 1.48 and 1.50 seem to get good reviews, but I cant remember if thats only in the US or if thats UK too...

nanastas said:
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
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I have Schaps 4.31 Rom too... I tried disabling 3G and leaving just the 3G. But didn't noticed any difference in the battery consumtion.
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?

pulsorock said:
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
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Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)

ryaske said:
Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
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The screen was off. But the phone was in standby.
I will try your other suggestions to see what happens. I'll also try other radio roms. Reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933), tests seem to show that rom 1.47.30.10 has good performance.
Will post later the results.
Thanks...

I did the acbPowerMeter test.
I get around 162mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes)
With screen brightness on the second click (from left to right, the least bright before backlight off), not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3G enabled but not active. No other program running except acbPowerMeter.
I tried turning 3G off (leaving just EDGE) and I got 169mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes). Strange that with 3G off got about the same or a little more.
I tried to do the test with the phone screen off (stand by), but it seems the program doesn't run in standby.
Any idea?

I meant 2 clicks in from the right .. so 2 clicks away from full bright is what I ran at.
I think you might want to start a new thread for this problem.
To give you some more numbers to go on ..
with phone on, bluetooth on, wlan on (and mated to router), no data connection, and screen 2 away from full bright .. my phone bounces from 80-115 sitting there with the screen on. Avg is 96 and total is just short of 8 mAh in 5 minutes.
take the numbers for what they are. keep in mind if your voltage goes down, your current will too. so run these tests at full batt.
search for battery drainage and find your problem , def replace the battery just to be sure its good. Personally, I would just sell the phone on ebay if a new battery didn't fix it. Time = money these days.. just get a new one and know its good

[Q] Most stable custom ROM avail

Hi all,
I know most of you guys use CM7 RC0 But I just want to know which is the most stable custom ROM which has all the features avail and no FCs or ANRs?
I almost tried all the ROMs including Stock Eclair, Froyo, CM7, MIUI, China Unicom etc. Currently using China Unicom 2.10,
My main concern is about battery coz no matter which ROM i use I get only a day of battery life :
So I'm looking for a Froyo/Gingerbread ROM which gives MAX battery life, supports HD video recording, fast and stable. Of course Ill stick on to CM7 once the official version gets released.

I am also looking for a rom with good batt usages n smoothness will wait untill any1 rreplies
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for good battery life, please keep the 2G on, and switch to 3G only when needed. this is probably the best thing you can do for your battery life. also, make sure the baseband is correct for your usage. however, only you will be able to do this yourself. try a few until you hit a good one.
cheers!

lanfearxt said:
for good battery life, please keep the 2G on, and switch to 3G only when needed. this is probably the best thing you can do for your battery life. also, make sure the baseband is correct for your usage. however, only you will be able to do this yourself. try a few until you hit a good one.
cheers!
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Well.. Of course I always follow the tips to conserve the battery like setting to 2G, very few animations, setvsel to undervolt, not many widgets. But still I get around 1 to 1.5 days of backup.

I have been using CM7 beta 6 for a few weeks already and it has been pretty stable. Lasts around 3.5 days with moderate use. Heavy use( a lot of phone calls), around 1.5 - 2 days.
Just make sure that you select the correct baseband.

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I have been using CM7 beta 6 for a few weeks already and it has been pretty stable. Lasts around 3.5 days with moderate use. Heavy use( a lot of phone calls), around 1.5 - 2 days.
Just make sure that you select the correct baseband.
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Yes, I install the correct baseband everytime I change the ROM, I'm suspecting my sim might be the culprit which is not letting the phone to go to DSM. Ill change it and see..
How stable and cool is Pays rom???

If you can get through a full day with the "micro laptop" we now refer to as a phone, you're in good shape! Plug it in every night and be happy.
If your particular usage patterns don't get you through a full day, or if you can't plug in every night, there are plenty of extended battery options available.
You guys need to understand that the manufacturers are forced to decide between battery life and size/packaging. Today's phones are designed to be practical for the average consumer who is able to plug in/recharge their phone every day. And fortunately, the aftermarket offers us the option of getting longer battery life in exchange for a larger package (ie 3500+ mAh batteries with covers)...

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If you can get through a full day with the "micro laptop" we now refer to as a phone, you're in good shape! Plug it in every night and be happy.
If your particular usage patterns don't get you through a full day, or if you can't plug in every night, there are plenty of extended battery options available.
You guys need to understand that the manufacturers are forced to decide between battery life and size/packaging. Today's phones are designed to be practical for the average consumer who is able to plug in/recharge their phone every day. And fortunately, the aftermarket offers us the option of getting longer battery life in exchange for a larger package (ie 3500+ mAh batteries with covers)...
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Well, You are right.. But I'm very Jealous that many people get 3 to 4 days of battery backup on an avg usage, I have seen posts where they mentioned 6 days of battery backup using the china unicom's rom, So I flashed the ROM hoping Ill atleast get 2 - 3 days of backup.. but even that didnt help..

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Well, You are right.. But I'm very Jealous that many people get 3 to 4 days of battery backup on an avg usage, I have seen posts where they mentioned 6 days of battery backup using the china unicom's rom, So I flashed the ROM hoping Ill atleast get 2 - 3 days of backup.. but even that didnt help..
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Turn off your data connection and any automatic syncing. Your phone will go a full week if it just sits there sleeping the whole time ;-)

[Q] Desire Battery Troubles

Hi everyone,
So that's my problem : I've got some real battery life troubles on my HTC Desire for 1 month now. I'll quickly explain what I did back then and what I've done since then.
So my Desire is rooted and has S-OFF for 4-5 months now. I've tried many roms, starting from the stock one with root (froyo), RCMix S, CyanogenMod, InsertCoin, GB Roms, ...
I had a great battery life with the froyo stock rooted ROM, I could listen to music, go on Youtube, read mails, call, ... and my battery would last a little bit less than 2 days, which I find good for a smartphone.
When I switched to GB Sense ROMs, I lost some battery life, but I could still do a lot of stuff and have some 40% remaining at the end of the day. So it could last 2 days when not doing heavy stuff.
One month ago, I updated InsertCoin to a new version and since then I've got battery life troubles. I thought first it was obviously IC having battery troubles, but when an update arrived, it remained the same. I bought a new battery and nothing changed. Since then I've tried different ROMs like AOSP Cyanogenmod or stock rooted Froyo but the battery can't last more than one day even if the phone remains idle for the most part of the day (one call, 30 minutes of music and that's it... 15-20% at the end of the day).
I've tried to change the radio to an oldest one (5.11.05.27 previously 5.17.05.23), add to the stock froyo a powersaving pack (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997) which I think should be the lightest ROM available (stock froyo with old sense and a powersaving pack) and still can't have my phone survive the night ...
So what has changed in my phone and how can I have a normal battery life back ?
I don't expect you to exactly solve my problem, but it could be nice to give some advices regarding the battery or explain how exactly the modified kernels with smartass work or even the setcpu application. And how to monitor exactly what drains the battery !
Best regards

How long have you had the phone? And is it still the original battery you got with the device?
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I've had my phone since June 2010 and I bought a new battery 1 month ago to see if it changed something. It's an official htc battery
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Did you calibrated your new battery? If not, here is a very nice guide for battery calibration:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11823-battery-calibration-thread

Thanks for the link. I've tried to calibrate my battery, I'll see if it changes something, but from what I read, calibration only avoids your phone turning off at 10-15% of battery because it thinks the battery is empty. A lot of people say that calibration doesn't improve battery life ...

So I tried to find what really drained my battery. I spoke with a friend and he told me he thought our provider must have changed something in the network and that can use more battery.
So I tried to use my phone as usual but turning on and off the 3g network when needed or not and the battery life is back to normal.
It's strange though because one year ago I didn't need to do that to save my battery.
I'm wondering : if I try several radios, could I find one that uses less battery? So far I've used the last one available and the one that came with froyo 2.2 but I didn't try the other...
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What most people forget is the tiny size of the battery Vs what we want the phone to do. If I were to only send a few text messages per day and maybe a 10 minute phone call it may last up to 3 days. As it is I have it checking Facebook, Google mail, my home mail and I leave wifi on 24/7. With this I can do 24 hours provided that I'm not putting the screen on to look.
Turn wifi off and don't look at the screen, battery suddenly lasts twice as long. The issue is that these phones are made to be able to access anything and your battery will die fasy when you do. Get a cheap £10.99 Nokia or Samsung that only makes phone calls and you'll save yourself the heartache of a phone that's a PC away from home.
Otherwise, swallow the bitter pill. You can't have both.

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What most people forget is the tiny size of the battery Vs what we want the phone to do. If I were to only send a few text messages per day and maybe a 10 minute phone call it may last up to 3 days. As it is I have it checking Facebook, Google mail, my home mail and I leave wifi on 24/7. With this I can do 24 hours provided that I'm not putting the screen on to look.
Turn wifi off and don't look at the screen, battery suddenly lasts twice as long. The issue is that these phones are made to be able to access anything and your battery will die fasy when you do. Get a cheap £10.99 Nokia or Samsung that only makes phone calls and you'll save yourself the heartache of a phone that's a PC away from home.
Otherwise, swallow the bitter pill. You can't have both.
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Thanks for the answer. I'm not asking for one week battery life though. I'm just pointing out that one year ago I had Froyo with root and now I'm back to Froyo with a brand new battery after trying some other ROMs but I can't manage to have my old battery life back. What I'm saying in my other posts is that I'm not using my phone a lot, I just write 2 messages a day and listen to 30 minutes music, I don't go on Youtube, I don't have push notifications for exchange etc etc ... Last year I had all of that and the battery lasted more than one day !
Cheers

What is the part number of your new battery ? Is it 35H00132-06M
I have got such one and results is very surprising
See my blog 78michel/unblog now in french will be in english within few days

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What is the part number of your new battery ? Is it 35H00132-06M
I have got such one and results is very surprising
See my blog 78michel/unblog now in french will be in english within few days
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Nop, it's not very far, it's 35H00132-05M.
BTW, meantime I've switched to sebaastian15's ROM Runnymede, removed everything I could (Twitter, auto sync off, Exchange manual update, etc ...) and I'm very satisfied with the battery life And the Beats audio enhancement is very nice with some good headphones !
I'll just suppose that Android 2.2 + uses more battery than the old ones and if you want the same battery life, you need to turn off some stuff. I also think that Sense 3.5 is more battery friendly than 3.0.
Cheers