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Battery life survey: comparison between WM5 and WM6

Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34

Those numbers seem low to me... I've had the opposite experience. When I had the stock 8525 from Cingular, I could only manage about 36 hours on it. The leaked Cingular AKU 3 build gave me about 42~44 hours. WM6 builds using Radio 1.34 gave me just under 48 hours. Radio 1.38 was a step backwards in giving me just under 20 hours of battery life. So far with the new Cingular radio, I am still going on my last charge from Saturday morning, so easily 60+ hours (I'm at 30% charge left now).
I'm always on 3G and have direct push pushing about 200 emails a day. My voice calls only total my 20 minutes a day with bluetooth on continuously.
Much depends on your signal strength - I have full strength at work and at home. Another person I know who has the 8525 and only half strength signals has their battery life cut by 40%...

Batt Life
I switched over from the generic Cingular radio rom (acquired the device back in beginning of Dec 06) to Black 2.0 with the latest and greatest radio rom. I have to say... My batt life trebled with this new configuration on 3g. Used to be that just a couple of phone calls with push mail, and my battery would be pretty low after 3-4 hours. Sorry that I can't be more specific, but I am loving the new config.
-Humbert

i went to 1.4...i have terrible battery life...any suggestions?

maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours

please buy a new battery
With Black 2 and 1.35.00.11 my battery life is better than wm5 (about 30%)with an old Vodafone (primitive) radio...
EDIT
with wm5 and old radio about 25/30 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection: 4hrs)
wm6 black 2 radio 1.35.00.11 about 40 hrs (used only like a hard GPRS modem pc. Continue connection now about 5 hrs)

I use Black v2.0, 3G email and bluetooth a couple of hours a day, not much calls, and my battery won't make it through the day...
I get around 6-8 hrs this way, and before Black (WM5 Tytn, default ROM's) it was even worse...
Guess that's not right
edit: It appears that I'm not the only one having these problems. Guess it's kinda odd that some ppl have 40+ hrs, and some others 4+ with the same device. Any ideas on this one?

i have the same problem too, with the newest lvsw an black roms.
no problem with latest htc wwe rom.
regards chief

luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I have the same problem when I run IM+, that program seems to destroy my battery in a few hours. If I don't use it, I can get a couple of days out of my battery with maybe 20 or so texts a day,e-mail being checked every 15 min, some light internet browsing, and maybe 20 minutes of phone usage.
Upgrading to the 1.40.30 radio seems to have helped helped a lot. I used to have to charge daily on 1.38 and 1.34. Now it is every two, or so.

luniz97 said:
maybe a bit more info might help...1.4 radio...lslw...3/24 the newest one...running im+...thats it...batt runs out in like 4 hours
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I don't use im+ personally but I know a few people who do and it can drain the battery.
I recently upgraded to the 1.4 radio (using lvsw 4/8) and that improved my battery. What REALLY helped though was removing the a2dp.exe from the start-up. This is a utility that may help a2dp quality. i personally have not experienced the a2dp issues that some have so this utility didn't do much in my case- and the battery life is much better now. if you are using lvsw 3/24 though, i think this utility was not included yet.
I am a med to heavy user- 2 hours .wma playback a day over stereo bluetooth. bluetooth always on. 1 hour or so web usage and emails all day. My battery used to die at around 7:00pm but now it will last through the day with 20% to go before i turn in at 10:30ish.

If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
scioni said:
Hi everybody,
the aim of this post is to clarify if there is a direct relationship between WM5 original ROMs and WM6 cooked ROMs.
I have read different posts from users asking about the different behavior of the battery performance after installing WM6. In general, it seems that each user has a different experience about the battery life.
Is it possible? Depend on th Radio version?
I report my experience:
- Original WM5 - Radio 1.27 --> average life 55 hrs.
- LSVW 15/3 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 39 hrs.
- Black 2.0 WM6 - Radio 1.34 --> average life 33 hrs.
(these values are obtained with the same usage of the HERMES applications: in terms of GSM calls, BT connections, and usage of the installed software. Of course, it is not important the absolute values in hours between two consecutive recharges, but it is important to note the trend: the battery life is halved! )
I would like to know the comment from the expert users: is related to WM6 ROMs? Depends also on the Radio version? Any suggestions ...
Thanks in advance for any replies from you about this topic.
I hope that this post could be useful to clarify this point and to better explain if there is some relationship between WM5 and WM6 on the battery consumption.
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
WM6 ROM: Black 2.0
Radio: 1.34
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Any suggestions about the RADIO?
jasjamming said:
If you are going to benchmark the OS only with repsect to battery life, ensure you have the SAME radio in both WM5 and WM6 varients because the RADIO rom does impact battery consumption.
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Hi Jasjamming,
thanks for your reply, and compliment for the BLACK 2.0 ROM!
I'm very happy of this ROM: fast and stable
About the battery, do you have some suggestions on the RADIO?
For instance, the two WM6 ROMs, which I have tested, were with the same RADIO (1.34), but I have noticed some performance degradation ...
In your experience, increasing the RADIO version, the battery life is improved?
Otherwise, I will try to come back to older RADIO version.
Ciao,
Stefano
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HTC TyTN
ROM: Black 2.0
RADIO: 1.34

Bit of a Trick Question
There are so many things that effect batt life. Everyone will use their devices differently for different purposes. So its really hard to properly survey this.
My original WM5 rom n radio gave me about a day and half down to less than a day depending on the amount and length of calls. Also wifi usage dramatically decreased batt life.
My current config of BE 2.0 and Radio 1.40 gives me 2 days of juice but again if I make alot of calls it can still be drained in a day. Use wifi a few times as well and it will be charging in under 8 hours. I have bluetooth on permanently.
If you really want long batt life lend your hermes to your mum or grandfather.

You may not even notice
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).

LazPL said:
It's really hard to pinpoint what affects battery life, but keep in mind that if you are in an area with low reception, your battery will drain faster. And if you are in areas with 3G/HSDPA avialability, the same goes, even if you don't receive any calls. So depending on where you are in a day, and how you move about, your radio will have to work more or less, which means the only sensible measurement is to measure average battery life for say a month with WM5, then another month with WM6.
Personally I have a feeling that I get better battery life with never radio and WM6, but I am fairly certain the main issue is the radio, not the OS (I was in flight mode a lot last week while travelling, and got fantastic battery life even when using heavily, constantly reading and listening to music).
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That's what I experience as well. In flight mode, my battery drains about 10% in 8 hours, and (as I posted above) while the radio is turned on, it's down to zero in the same amount of time. I live in an area with HSDPA coverage, but also have the 1.38 radio. So while that is one of the latest radio's, my battery life is horrible.

K-Mile
Have your tried switching your band to gsm instead of Auto?
This doubled my battery life.
I now only turn on High speed if and when I need it. Rest of the time am quite happy with lower speed.

Another important factor that drains battery is your mobile operator - different operators implement it differently - eg in Japan, on NTT Docomo/Softbank networks my x01ht's battery's life was excellent. In Malaysia, under Maxis it sucks. So this comparison doesn't really hold. You can only compare if i you're on :
1. same ROM
2. same radio
3. same network (!)

Last week i went from radio 1.38.00.11 to 1.40.00.30 and i have noticed a huge increase in battery life. Im sure its lasting at least twice as long on 40 as it was on 38! Not installed anything new since changing the radio and i run on GSM only as vodafone has bugger all 3G in my area. I recomend radio 1.40.30.00 to anyone who is suffering with battery life, but as ever, please read everything before flashing as i wouldnt want anyone to brick their phone

Hi,
I have Black 2.0 installed, My battery drains fast (Radio 1.38). With Radio 1.40 my battery drains faster.
Regards,
Taguapire.

Am on 1.16 radio, had WM5, when hammered the phone would last ~ 16 hours maybe, this was with 3G enabled...
Upgraded to WM6, manually in 'G' mode, mainly use texting and emails, ~ 10 texts a day and ~10 emails, push permanently on, plus odd surfing, lots of calender and scheduling, ~30 minute calls etc. will only lose 10% battery life a day! Amazing! Was only down to 80% by day 2, but then I usually charge anyway so havent tried a full 100%-0% rundown.
So I guestimate with light use it should run for at least....a week without needing a charge.

Battery Drain Problem - Solved??

There has been a lot of posts here about battery drain with varying theories about why many people experience this.
My Dopod D810's battery usually lasts me a day before it finally complains and shuts down around 11:00pm.
During this time I had been using Exchange activesync to push email to my device. However we do have a Blackberry enterprise server at work so I decided to remove exchange and install Blackberry in order to see what differences there were.
Imagine my surprise when I found with Blackberry rather than Exchange that my battery is still at 70% when it normally would have been switching off. It has been like this now for over a week. My usage has been normal during that time and there have been no other changes made,
Has anyone else experienced this? I would be interested to hear from anyone who has. Perhaps this is an explanation?
Cheers
Bruce

"Imagine my surprise when I found with Blackberry rather than Exchange that my battery is still at 70% when it normally would have been switching off."
That's probably 'cos of how MS's Push Mail works, although it only transfers data when really needed, it also pings the server at an interval( default each 8 mins ) just to check if the connection is still alive( if not it'll re-establish it ).
BB doesn't need to( but it does need to be supported by the carrier ).
At least that's what I read.

just a quick post to say that I think the battery drain - for me - is worse when I changed ROM, I use push email for my old ROM and the drain was normally 3 days now with this ROM I find I charge every day. I am doing nothing different from the previous ROM

I have tried several WM6 ROMs by now, and all seem to have the same problem: I get a MASSIVE battery drain, when I use ActiveSync Pushmail over UMTS connection. Also the device and battery gets warm, if not to say HOT.
I tried already different Radio ROMs 1.4x and 1.50.08, still the same.
I would lose about 20% capacity per hour.
However, if I configure the phone to use only GSM bands, there is almost no battery drain.
Any ideas on this? I use UMTS quite a lot for browsing/email and would need pushmail as well.

esackbauer said:
I have tried several WM6 ROMs by now, and all seem to have the same problem: I get a MASSIVE battery drain, when I use ActiveSync Pushmail over UMTS connection. Also the device and battery gets warm, if not to say HOT.
I tried already different Radio ROMs 1.4x and 1.50.08, still the same.
I would lose about 20% capacity per hour.
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Same issue here.
I live in the USA and last month I went to Spain and there I was using Movistar as my cell provider with a Movistar simcard everything was working great (UMTS,Activesync Pushmail,videocall etc...) but man like you said,once the phone was switching from GSM to 3G the device starts craving battery like you wouldn´t believe plus the temperature of the battery was kind of outrageous.
So I switched to GSM and everything back to normal in Spain and in the USA,I don´t know what to say other than 3G and Pushmail drain a lot.
I have noticed this with every rom.
Bye

dta1974 said:
Same issue here.
I live in the USA and last month I went to Spain and there I was using Movistar as my cell provider with a Movistar simcard everything was working great (UMTS,Activesync Pushmail,videocall etc...) but man like you said,once the phone was switching from GSM to 3G the device starts craving battery like you wouldn´t believe plus the temperature of the battery was kind of outrageous.
So I switched to GSM and everything back to normal in Spain and in the USA,I don´t know what to say other than 3G and Pushmail drain a lot.
I have noticed this with every rom.
Bye
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Same story here. I live in the Netherlands with the Orange version of this phone and no matter which rom I use, it always drains rapidly when i used a 3g connection. So after I browsed with a 3g connection I switch back to GSM for push mail etc and to stop the draining.

Radio Hermes Problem

Hi,
which is the latest hermes radio upgrade ?
Thanks

1.54.30.10

Radio Problem ????
It would be to your benifit to explain your problem a little mor so that we can help you a better than just a radio build as there may be more to your situation than we know and the you could be back with a no GSM or "briked" device so the more you let us know the more help you can recieve.
.

Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.

Good place to ask
Been scouring the net for an hour now to trying to get an idea of what Radio Rom would be best for me, thought this might be a good thread to butt in on
I currently have 1.43 with Schaps 4.30 ROM, using T-Mobile in the UK.
Is there a better Radio ROM out there for me? Any improvements to signal would be nice, especially data seeing as it's my main source for the internet at the moment (just moved, broadband is taking too long to get active )

Well , 1.54 is newer than yours based on the #. It might be worth a whirl to try the at&t dialer and see if it works? you could always go back to 1.43 if necessary

I think that's what I'll do, hesitated after reading a few threads that didn't paint the 1.54 ROM's in a good light, but like you say can always go back.

Just to give my 2 cents worth, I was using 1.54.07 since June 2007, It performed very well for me except for whenever I had no reception for an extended period. Once I returned to an area with reception I would have to Soft Reset else my Hermes would not find a signal again. After reading the recent bad reps for 1.54, I decided to downgrade to 1.43 again. What I have noticed since downgrading is the batt is no longer lasting me as long. Normally I have 60-70% batt life left after a normal day with 1.54.07, now I see only 30-40% batt remaining.
See Mr Vanx's report for his current tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933

Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
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ryaske..... thanks brother just trying to give a little back to a community that has helped me so much

I have a serious Radio Problem...
The battery lasts only 2 hours tops whith the Radio ON, and 3-4 hours in standby.
Ofcourse, the when the Radio is OFF it goes back to the normal consumption rate...
Can anyone help me?
Details:
ROM: Official WM6 (3.54.255.3)
Radio: 1.48.00.10

Is there any problem with radio 1.54.07.00 and battery drain?
I have Cingular 8525 and the battery last at most 6-8 hours, with less than 15 minutes of usage in the entire day.
I had the latest official Rom from AT&T, but last night tried Schap's Rom 4.31 to see if there was any difference. But the battery drains as fast as it used to.
My previous device was an 8125 and I could have the device without a recharge for 2-3 days. This one hardly last a days work.

3G
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.

Having tried them all, 1.40.30.00 radio is by FAR the most battery efficient and stable for MS Push email IMO.

Here is a list of all the radios. 1.48 and 1.50 seem to get good reviews, but I cant remember if thats only in the US or if thats UK too...

nanastas said:
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
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I have Schaps 4.31 Rom too... I tried disabling 3G and leaving just the 3G. But didn't noticed any difference in the battery consumtion.
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?

pulsorock said:
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
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Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)

ryaske said:
Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
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The screen was off. But the phone was in standby.
I will try your other suggestions to see what happens. I'll also try other radio roms. Reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933), tests seem to show that rom 1.47.30.10 has good performance.
Will post later the results.
Thanks...

I did the acbPowerMeter test.
I get around 162mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes)
With screen brightness on the second click (from left to right, the least bright before backlight off), not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3G enabled but not active. No other program running except acbPowerMeter.
I tried turning 3G off (leaving just EDGE) and I got 169mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes). Strange that with 3G off got about the same or a little more.
I tried to do the test with the phone screen off (stand by), but it seems the program doesn't run in standby.
Any idea?

I meant 2 clicks in from the right .. so 2 clicks away from full bright is what I ran at.
I think you might want to start a new thread for this problem.
To give you some more numbers to go on ..
with phone on, bluetooth on, wlan on (and mated to router), no data connection, and screen 2 away from full bright .. my phone bounces from 80-115 sitting there with the screen on. Avg is 96 and total is just short of 8 mAh in 5 minutes.
take the numbers for what they are. keep in mind if your voltage goes down, your current will too. so run these tests at full batt.
search for battery drainage and find your problem , def replace the battery just to be sure its good. Personally, I would just sell the phone on ebay if a new battery didn't fix it. Time = money these days.. just get a new one and know its good

terrible battery life!

Hi All
My Diam100 has the worst battery life of any HTC I have seen and is far worse than my Diam140 - which makes no sense unless it is the HSDPA part of the radio stack.
Also, My diam100 drinks the whole battery on satnav GPS inside around 3 hours. (I am using CoPilot Live 7.0)
I am running the european release ROM:
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe
with the 1.00.25.05 radio stack
any thoughts here? I wonder if it is worth turning off HSDPA?
Yours
Leon

search before you post
your not the 1st or will be last to start a thread like this
try a cooked rom...with the tweaks mine is now lasting 4 days

thanks, buddy
Will-do. I would dearly love to understand why the GPS is so power hungry and why HSDPA empties the battery so quickly.
I'll certainly try a cooked ROM or two now I have it unlocked and HARD SPL'd
Thanks for the advice
Yours
Leon

liamhere said:
your not the 1st or will be last to start a thread like this
try a cooked rom...with the tweaks mine is now lasting 4 days
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I have the same ROM and Radio ROM but mine hardly lasts 1 day ... probably too much WiFi searching?

Using 3g od HSDPA really drains the devices battery. I only use G (unless I'm doing some serious surffing - so My batter lasts nearly 3 days - mainly 2 though...

Cooked roms like Dutty's v.1.4 has tweaks to increase battery performance. And if you are not using the HSDPA or 3G services just disable it so you can save battery. Well I am happy with the battey life because it is better thn some Nokia's battery's/

Agree with all above:
Battery does suck.
Disable 3G, BT, WIFI, Beam when not using makes my batt last 2 days without making too many calls. Which imo is not that bad.
Last friday i used all of its features (heavy usage), 3G, GPS, WIFI and etc made alot of calls and the batt died about 10hrs later.

you sound surprised??!!
the diamond is one of the most powerful phones on the market at the moment being put up directly against the iphone 3g which has terrible battery life as well.
weigh it up, you have a 900mah battery over 520mhz processor vga screen oh yeh its less that half the size of an iphone.
i think it does ok

pj0011 said:
the diamond is one of the most powerful phones on the market at the moment being put up directly against the iphone 3g which has terrible battery life as well.
weigh it up, you have a 900mah battery over 520mhz processor vga screen oh yeh its less that half the size of an iphone.
i think it does ok
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well said.
too right you are - I'll take one of these over an iPhone any day

since we are hot on the topic...
anyone tried the extended battery yet?
1350mah or the 1800mah from china?

i've heard that the .03 radio rom should spare the battery life a bit more than the .05., at least within europe.

[TIP] Greatest Battery saving tip you'll ever find

Hi all.
I tried this originally on my desire, then in my wifes wildfire S to great success.
Go in to the phone app
type in *#*#4636#*#*
Select 'Phone information'
scroll down to the bottom
in the 'set preferred network type' select 'GSM auto (PRL)'
then press back to return to your home page.
The wife doesn't use her phone much, ie a phone call or two a day, after a DAY of being unplugged from the mains the battery was still registering at 100% !
This doesn't affect the phone's functionality at all, it still allows for you to connect to a 3G network, what it does is connects to 2G when the 3G signal is weaker for calls and texts.
You may get varying results but every phone I've tried it on has boosted the battery by hours when idle.
Enjoy!

Updated with proof
Hi guys, just to show you how much better this setting is, my wife's wildfire S normally needed charger every 2 days.
As you can see it's passed 2 days and it is still registering over 80% remaining battery.
I'll update when it finally dies, which should be in about 8 days

tried this on my wildfire s and afterwards it just kept turning my network on and off.. Switched back to wcdma preferred

I haven't seen that before, you might be in a weak 2g signal area thats why it's constantly trying to resolve the radio.
I assume this will work for some ( I live in an area that is very well covered by orange) and not for others depending on your network coverage.
Does it still do it when you switch to GSM only? It will kill your internet speed, but just to test if it's the 2G mast or not, then switch back to WCDMA preferred if it works best on your phone.
If GSM only is okay, you can use widgetoid 2.x and make a short cut to the normal settings options to switch between gsm only and WCDMA which will help, but I find it a bit of a pain in the perverbial behind.
As with most tips its not a one size fits all, however I've done it on 5 phones ( all HTC) which has improved the battery.

Hi,
as for me, I have really a lot of problem regarding the battery life.
Today it was 100% and after 8 hours just 55% left.
Without using any wireless conection, and just 2 text.
Any way, maybe you can tell us, how is the wildfire S form your configured, homescreen widget?
which battery tool do you use?
I just made again a reset, and I will try to set GSM only, coz I do not use internet at all.
by the way, great thread.....)
bye

She's got it extremely basic, no widgets, no weather nothing, there's only 4 shortcuts on all her home screens, mostly black background (static picture).
No battery apps or task killers are on it.
All radios, GPS etc are disable, screen brightness on auto ( however I usally leave it around 20% for better battery performance)
It is never connected to the internet, she uses it just as a phone. I'm quite impressed with the battery life she gets.

I'm a bit curious, if she just used it at the most basic level, than why would she get a smartphone?
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Hi Guys,
Just a quick update, the phone has made it to over 6 days stand by and the 30% energy saving has only just kicked in.
What I wanna know is, is there a way to log (appart from logcat) what's going on it the background. Granted she doesn't use it a lot (mostly as a personal radio and because it was a free upgrade to answer the previous question) but if you look the angle of decline increases after use when surely it should sharply drop and then continue on the same curve?
Nevermind.
This means her phone is up to 151ish hrs standby and still going, I'm gonna have a few more tweaks and see if I can get it anywhere close to the times quoted on the HTC site:
Standby time:
WCDMA: Up to 570 hours
GSM: Up to 360 hours
Infact (sorry i think outloud when I'm typing) how the hell do they think you'll get BETTER battery life on WCDMA? No chance unless you live under the mast and never leave the house.
I think for my next test I'll put it on WCDMA only and see how it affects the battery.

Also the battery doesn't have a very high capacity. That could also be the problem. I heave heard the hd2 I think has the same battery size but a much higher capacity.

Hi, I got my WS last week, and so far I cannot complain about battery. I am using it on GSM only, no data, bluetooth on, I'm going trugh an average of 40 calls a day, and in the evening I still have about 60 % of battery left. I am pretty sure that that won't be the case if I use mobie data or WiFi though.
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Hi,
I just can agree, coz even I made a test put the WS on GSM only, and it seems reallly to having more battery life.
As for now, just to have the usual use, 5-10 text 3 calls a day a bit wlan, i can use it for now almost 5 days, which I think it is ok.
thanks

This is an incredible tip. 24hrs and I've still got a full battery!
Sticky please

hi guys.
i'm just trying this tip right now, but, please, can someone explain to me what are the differencies between cdma and gsm "stuff"? (i am using 3g, wifi and classic phone functions)
thanks a lot

baaabovka said:
hi guys.
i'm just trying this tip right now, but, please, can someone explain to me what are the differencies between cdma and gsm "stuff"? (i am using 3g, wifi and classic phone functions)
thanks a lot
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If you connect to the internet on your phone through your network provider don't switch to gsm only as 3g signals are much much faster. If you only connect to the internet when there's a wifi signal then set it to gsm only to save the battery.

thanks mark.
i switched to "GSM auto (PRL)" as amraving said in first post. i am using 3g only for sending sms through app called free sms sender and for update weather. so internet speed is not my priority. hope it will works fine.

First time I read this I thought this is in setup, didnt know there was a secret menu. I just activated it now then I got full bars than just GSM only. thanks buddy.

baaabovka said:
thanks mark.
i switched to "GSM auto (PRL)" as amraving said in first post. i am using 3g only for sending sms through app called free sms sender and for update weather. so internet speed is not my priority. hope it will works fine.
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No problem, I set mine to gsm only and I've noticed a fairly big difference with battery life, can last a few days on idle, not to bad with moderate wifi use either.

Its good to see so many people getting some use out of this tip. If it helped could you click the thanks?
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So if you use this tip you wont be able to use 3G and HSDPA ?

Giving this a go, I never use Mobile Network, only wifi so.. lets see.