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'Not Enough Memory' for Route 66 map on XDA

I'm trying to run 'Route 66' Navigate 7 for Pocket PC on my XDA IIs but keep getting the error message 'Not Enough Memory To Open This Map' (UK and Ireland).
I have no other programs running, and the Route 66 specs say it needs 16MB of free 'Runtime Memory'. It only requires a 256 MB SD Card and I'm using a 512 MB card.
I'm not clear what exactly is meant by 'Runtime Memory' but my XDA IIs has 18.51 MB of Storage Memory and 47.69 MB of Program Memory free before I run the Route 66 program. I've tried juggling the slider between the Program/Storage memories but I still get the same error message.
Just hoped someone here knows a solution.
Thanks.

id say the storage memory is too low

thanks for that, DJ_Steve.

did that solved your problem esmonde ?

Memory leak -ATT Official WM6 rel

Hmm
So after a soft reset, without Goodlink running, I have at least 27mb available..and with Goodlink, I still have 12-15mb Program Mem free...
Over the course of the day, Mem would drop to between 4-8mb. There is nothing else I can close with HTC X-button.
Exiting out of Goodlink does give me back more mem (12mb or so), but GL is a 'must have' app. Soft reset brings up the same cycle....
anyone else notice any memory issues or decreased Mem throughout the day? Could possibly be on of the apps installed?
I did not have this 'leak' with the un-official Asian/dopod WM6 release, though I like the new att wm6 release and would like to stick with it if I could. Also, with that ROM, I only had Goodlink and a_c slide2Unlock
I am currently running the official ATT WM6 release
3.62.502.3 and these are the installed apps:
(radio ver I downgraded to 1.47 but the radio shouldn't matter)
Goodlink (compressed the 4mb exe into 2mb with UPX4PPC)
PocketCM Keyboard with iPhone (2many skin)
A_C slide to unlock (ver 1.17 because I like this older version)
HTC X-button ver 1.51
MS Live Search
SJ keyboard skin - Touch
battlevel.exe

There have been versions of slide to unlock that had memory leak problems (.99c does not). Try disabling it for a day and see if thats the problem. You can also use oxios to free up allocated RAM throughout the day.

This has been a regularly recurring issue for me since I can remember. I've been using Schap's 4.01 for months now and find that I need to reset every couple of days. Sorry that I don't have a solution for you, but perhaps someone else here can give a recommendation on how to go about freeing up memory that has become consumed by the OS and programs running in it.
The only thing that I can think of might be to try going to 'Settings -> System -> Memory -> Running programs' and close down anything else that may be running in the background. Also, try checking the running processes in FDCSoft Task Manager 2.7 and see if there are any programs that can be closed out there as well. Let me know if you figure anything out, thanks!
Cheers and good luck!

SKTools FreeUP RAM
I use SK Tools FreeUP RAM function to free program memory throughout the day. Even at that, every couple of days I need to soft reset. Typically, I will drop down to about 18MB of Program Memory, then FreeUP RAM and get back to 21MB, then soft reset and get back to 23-24MB.
It seems rather absurd, I know, but one gets used to it.
SKTools costs money and takes up memory (luckily installed on my Storage Card) and you would think this functionality would be in WM6.

Hmm.. So if everyone has this problem of sorts, and with all the various ROMs... the only common ground here is WM6 OS?
I'll try these freeMEM programs and give it a whirl
PS.. (The 'memory leak' was still happening even before I had installed A_C Slide2Unlock, though I will take it off again just to be sure)

WM6 memory leak on Sprint Mogul
I recently purchased a Sprint Mogul and upgraded to the latest ROM that HTC put out on their site on 3/10/08. I have installed many programs but only 3 launch at startup which are iLock2 [screen lock], TouchPal [a thumbable keyboard] and Microsoft's own Voice Command v 1.6. Voice Command is the largest user of memory, approx. 2.3 MB. TouchPal uses about 990 kb and iLock uses less than 35 kb. After about 1 hour I'm down to 11 MB of free memory and I didn't do anything or run a single thing on my device. If I try to launch PIE or Media Player, forget it, there's so little RAM left that it freezes in about 15 minutes of usage. So, if I want to use either of these, I have to do so immediately after a soft reset.
Based on my observations above and testing below, WM6 OS has a memory leak!
To make sure I give WM6 a fair chance, I had to measure the memory immediately after a Hard Rest. So that's exactly what I did 3 times and here are my findings:
Test #1...................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE...........FREE RAM IN 1 HOUR
Hard Reset #1...................24.15 MB...........................19.98 MB
Hard Reset #2...................24.15 MB...........................20.02 MB
Hard Reset #3...................24.14 MB...........................19.96 MB
Bottom line, I'm losing memory for no reason. I have not loaded any of my own programs AND I did not allow the Sprint bloatware to be installed either by doing a soft reset before the 3 second countdown.
Now the memory loss from Test #1 might not seem huge, but after loading my programs and PIM data the difference was even more dramatic, see Test #2. [FYI, I took the "IMMEDIATE" measurements in Test #1 and #2 as soon as the computer would allow me to access the memory console. Not perfect science, but close.]
Test #2......................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE........FREE RAM IN 20 MINS
Soft Reset #1.....................21.37 MB............................13.69 MB
Soft Reset #2.....................21.45 MB............................13.35 MB
Soft Reset #3.....................21.46 MB............................13.44 MB
Finally, to eliminate some rogue process eating all of my memory, I measured the process growth. I was able to do so after each soft reset by using Task Manager v.2.9, which I installed. A few of them grew in size, not sure why, but they did, so below is a sample of their growth. [I actually did this several times and the numbers below are representative of what I found in each of the trials.]
Test #3...................IMMEDIATE.................20 MINS
device.exe..................2682 kb...................2696 kb
cprog.exe...................1749 kb...................2024 kb
gwes.exe....................1559 kb...................1666 kb
filesys.exe..................1538 kb...................1751 kb
While the processes grew, it wasn't significant enough to offset the loss in memory illustrated in Test #2. I also watched the processes associated with my 3 programs that launched at startup and the other OS processes, 15 in all. Some of those grew ever so slightly as well. But in aggregate, the growth for all 15 processes from the time immediately following the reset to 20 minutes later only accounted for 855 kb while I saw my memory drop on average 8 MB.
What could be happening?
I believe the OS is loading something into memory [RAM checker, scanner, cleaner, etc.] that I can't see in the processes or application window and after it's done, it is not releasing the memory, ergo a memory leak.
Thoughts?

AT&T 8525/WM6 Memory
The memory on my AT&T 8525 was not great to start out with. After upgrading with HTC's WM6, it's so bad that Internet Explorer is barely usable. It slows down and freezes after viewing a few sites. I have to close the program and restart.

Ditch the rom you are using now and try this one out. I start with 31 mb's free after a reset. Problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917

Storage Memory

I have a Tmobile MDA Compact, and it keeps running out of storage memory, but I can't figure out what is using it. There are no exceptionally large files or anything.
Only software running is
NET 3.5
TrackMe
SQLCompact
Anybody any ideas?? I'm wondering if the SQL thing is getting full, but not sure how to empty it, I tried uninstalling it but that didn't help.

drum said:
I have a Tmobile MDA Compact, and it keeps running out of storage memory, but I can't figure out what is using it. There are no exceptionally large files or anything.
Only software running is
NET 3.5
TrackMe
SQLCompact
Anybody any ideas?? I'm wondering if the SQL thing is getting full, but not sure how to empty it, I tried uninstalling it but that didn't help.
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Just a moment, Sorage Memory depends on ROM's size, if you consider Artemis has 128MB (real 114MB) and a ROM is minimum 50MB, you have 64MB free, but if rom is bigger and use an ExtendedRom your free memory could be less than 26MB!!!
What rom are you using?

TomTom7 Not enough memory available

I got my TP2 for a week now and I really love it!
Yesterday I tried to run TomTom 7 (this did run before) and since then I get the message:"Unable to start. Not enough memory is available."
Does this sound familiar to you? What memory is meant here? I suppose the RAM, because I have freed up some space on the device and on the storage card. Further no applications are running. I also tried doing a soft reset before starting TomTom.
Any help would be appreciated!

Plantje said:
I got my TP2 for a week now and I really love it!
Yesterday I tried to run TomTom 7 (this did run before) and since then I get the message:"Unable to start. Not enough memory is available."
Does this sound familiar to you? What memory is meant here? I suppose the RAM, because I have freed up some space on the device and on the storage card. Further no applications are running. I also tried doing a soft reset before starting TomTom.
Any help would be appreciated!
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hi I had this on my diamond and I found if I deleted my maps and then reinstalled them all was well for me.
I hope this helps you

So that would mean if I delete the maps it should be able to start again? (Of course displaying no maps where found) I just tried it and that doesn't work.
First I'm copying the maps back to the device again. Let's see what happens!

No, unfortunately that doesn't solve the problem.
If I have some time left I will uninstall and reinstall.

The TomTom uses less than 20mb of ram. There should be plenty left.
A re-install should fix your problem.
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Check out my full in-depth review of the TP2 at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ&feature=channel_page

thedudelasse said:
The TomTom uses less than 20mb of ram. There should be plenty left.
A re-install should fix your problem.
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Check out my full in-depth review of the TP2 at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ&feature=channel_page
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I think 20mb is a bit much. To illustrate, i'm running it right now on my Treo 700Wx and before i launched it i had 18mb free program memory (other apps running as well) and right now since running TomTom 7 it's dowm to 11mb (so about 7mb has been used up by TomTom).
At the most it only ever uses as much as 10mb on my puny 3yr old Treo 700Wx.

i have another problema with tomtom(v.7.915) with tomtom installed can't connect me to my computer using activesync in bluetooth.any idea?

hmmm, anyone tried entering a city or something using the HW keyboard? Mine inserts an extra character after every keypress, even the shift key. Kinda makes it impossible to enter using the KB.

i had this when i had both the tom tom program and map on my storage card
i have tom tom on the device and my map on the storage card root location named with the name of the map for the folder
Western_Europe_1GB_830_2306
and it works fine
im struggling to get speed cams installed

babak said:
i have another problema with tomtom(v.7.915) with tomtom installed can't connect me to my computer using activesync in bluetooth.any idea?
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Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522373
It was posted in the Tips and Tricks sticky at the top of this section

This is interessting: I've uninstalled TomTom and reinstalled it. No luck!
However: if I start TomTom from the folder Programmabestanden\Navigator it DOES work!
It only doesn't start if I use the shortcut in the windows\start menu folder.

bigjezza said:
hmmm, anyone tried entering a city or something using the HW keyboard? Mine inserts an extra character after every keypress, even the shift key. Kinda makes it impossible to enter using the KB.
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I seem to remember I had this problem on my Raphael/Touch Pro. Not sure but there may be a HW keyboard fix if you check out the forums over there. Whether or not it will work for the Rhodium/TP2 though is another thing. For me, it's not a problem to use the SW keyboard though.

i just soft reset or use cleanram before using tomtom. The problem is the leaky memory in the original Rhodium ROM. A new cooked ROM will most likely solve this one they become available

[Q] Internal phone storage - cant use available free space

Can anyone shed some light on this problem (or perhaps suggest a fix).
My HTC EVO claims aprox 40MB available space of internal phone storage.
(Menu > settings > SD & phone storage > Internal phone storage)
When my phone has about aprox 40MB I begin to receive "Low disk space" notification. Furthermore, I cannot install any other app.
The problem here is... if i have 40MB of available space then i SHOULD be able to install (afterall I have 40MB free).
Is the reported 40MB erroneous? Perhaps this 40MB is reserved? If it is reserved, for what? And if it is indeed reserved for something, why is it reported as 40MB free?
Perhaps others have run accross the same issue with a different reported space available (mine was 40MB. others may have other values).
There are threads with a seemingly similar issue (disk space being eaten up and memory leaks), but not quite the same as this one (unable to use free space availabe).
Please advise.
Edit (added more info)
Some additional information to what ive posted above....
I am running Froyo (2.2)
Kernel 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
Software version 3.29.651.5
This problem has occurred when I had 2.1 (before froyo OTA update).
This problem occured when I have Froyo
I rooted (sucessfully) last night, and the problem persists.
If I am at aprox 40MB, if I remove an app to free up some space (lets say 10MB), which would put me at 50MB free the I can continue installing apps again until i reach about 40MB. Then i get the "low disk space" notifications and cannot install any additonal apps again.

newtonetienne said:
Can anyone shed some light on this problem (or perhaps suggest a fix).
My HTC EVO claims aprox 40MB available space of internal phone storage.
(Menu > settings > SD & phone storage > Internal phone storage)
When my phone has about aprox 40MB I begin to receive "Low disk space" notification. Furthermore, I cannot install any other app.
The problem here is... if i have 40MB of available space then i SHOULD be able to install (afterall I have 40MB free).
Is the reported 40MB erroneous? Perhaps this 40MB is reserved? If it is reserved, for what? And if it is indeed reserved for something, why is it reported as 40MB free?
Perhaps others have run accross the same issue with a different reported space available (mine was 40MB. others may have other values).
There are threads with a seemingly similar issue (disk space being eaten up and memory leaks), but not quite the same as this one (unable to use free space availabe).
Please advise.
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Why dont you just use darktremor apps2sd?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

thanks for the quick reply futuristicstyles.
The issue is not being able to free up additional space. The problem is that the phone is reporting I have space available (40MB), but when I try to use that space it wont let me.

until the experts chime in, i think it does have to do with memory allocated to the os that may include space reserved for cached files, mail attachments program usage, ect. or it could be a buffer memory when the developers designed it.

newtonetienne said:
thanks for the quick reply futuristicstyles.
The issue is not being able to free up additional space. The problem is that the phone is reporting I have space available (40MB), but when I try to use that space it wont let me.
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Welcome I use to wonder the same thing I think the phone does that so that it wont slow down or start force closing like winmo phone when they get full it starts freezing and, moving like dial up. Thats why i think the phone does that
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But dark tremor is a great alternative i have over 200 apps installed and my phone us still on top of the quadrent no lagging what so ever only when rebooting has to load apps from sd card
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Thank you all for posting.
Just checking if there is any additional advice or suggestions?
Also, has anyone else noticed behavior?

I agree with everyone else in that it's probably reserved for cache. Normally the phone uses /data for dalvik cache. Custom kernels and ROMs sometimes have a script that moves the dalvik cache to the cache partition, freeing up space in /data which I might suggest to you in this case.