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Is it possible to make a WM5 rom for HTC Voyager / O2 Xphone? HTC Voyager is still abundant here in the Philippines and others are wondering if it is capable to have a WM5 rom. Since no one here in the Philippines can make a rom, I brought it up here where there are lots of person who can make one.
Thanks
Here are some of the main features of the HTC Voyager. Please add more fun features that you've used.
Operating System
Windows Mobile 2003
Distributors
Orange SPV E200, O2 Xphone, Smart Amazing Phone 2, Dopod 515/535, I-Mate Smartphone 2, Qtek 8080,
Processor
Ti OMAP 710 132mhz
Memory
64MB Flash ROM 32MB SDRAM
Display
176x220 64k Colours
Design Type
Candybar
Frequency
Tri-band GSM 900, 1800, 1900
Wi-Fi
No
Bluetooth®
Yes
Email
POP3, Browser Based
Battery
Li-ion 1000 mAh
Speakerphone
Yes
Internet
GPRS, WAP
Built-in Camera
VGA 640x480, Video 352x288
Caller ID
Yes
Audio
WAV, MIDI - Polyphonic, MP3, WMA
Video
WMV, 3GP, AVI
IRDA
Yes
Expansion
SD/MMC
Dimensions
120.4 x 50.1 x 24.4 mm
Weight
130g
Messaging
SMS, E-mail, MMS
Thanks in advance
anyone?
anyone?.........
Technically I think its possible since motorola mpx200 has the the same specifics(?) and DOES have wm5 upgrade.
vlodeck said:
Technically I think its possible since motorola mpx200 has the the same specifics(?) and DOES have wm5 upgrade.
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if it's possible, i hope someout out there wouldn't mind to make a rom....it would be greatly appreciated by filipinos
My guess - its too late. This model is not popular around here
I know this is a old thread. But..
Ive been looking around for a small smartphone that could be used to play my music and be used with my bluetooth headphones. Im using the blue angel at the moment and it works superb (except the ablity to use sdhc cards). But its just too big and im always worried if i crack the screen plus it looks pretty nerdy..
So i saw this phone.. Which is excazly what im after. (Which i might add is the only phone that has bluetooth and supports a sd cards).
But i see no one has made any upgrades for it?
Well ill just put it out there that if someone can make this phone to enable a2dp bluetooth profile and support sdhc sd cards (having windows mobile 5+ would be a bonus). Id have to say that this phone with an extended battery would be one of the best phones on the market today.
Ive just started doing a three year programming course at the moment. So if no one else is willing to program a rom. Then hopefully soon ill learn how to develop me own one
O2 HTC Polaris
HTC SimFree 12th November
O2 Sim **** Delayed *** 26th January 2008 B]
HTC Manual - PDF Link
http://www.htc.com/support/pdf/htctouchcruise/Polaris_HTC_English_Manual.pdf
Specifications
Processor
Qualcomm® MSM7200™, 400MHz
Operating System
Windows Mobile® 6 Professional
Memory
ROM: 256MB ; RAM: 128MB DDR SDRAM
Dimensions
110 mm (L) X 58 mm (W) X 15.5 mm (T)
Weight
130g with battery
Display
2.8-inch TFT-LCD with backlight LEDs, touch-sensitive screen
Network
HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz (Europe), 850/1900 MHz (USA)
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
Device Control
HTC TouchFLO™
4-Way Navigation Wheel with Enter button
Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB and audio jack in one), full-speed USB 2.0
Camera
Main camera: 3 megapixel color CMOS camera with auto focus
Second camera: VGA CMOS color camera
Audio Built-in microphone and speaker
Ring tone supported formats:
MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1(SMF)/SP MIDI
Battery 1350 mAh rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Standby time:
Up to 450 hours for UMTS
Up to 400 hours for GSM
Talk time: Up to 4 hours for UMTS
Up to 7 hours for GSM
Up to 2.3 hours for video call
(The above are subject to network and phone usage)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC,
50/60Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
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HTC Press Release HTC Touch Cruise / Polaris
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LONDON — November 12 2007 — HTC Corp. (TAIEX: 2498; “HTC”), the world’s leading provider of Microsoft Windows Mobile® smart devices, today launched the HTC Touch Cruise™, the third member of the HTC Touch product family and the first to feature in-built GPS for personal navigation. Building on the popularity of the HTC Touch™ and the HTC Touch Dual™, the HTC Touch Cruise also includes 3G-HSDPA wireless connectivity.
Users on the move will easily be able to interact with the HTC Touch Cruise’s navigation functionality and can take advantage of HTC’s TouchFLO technology, which enhances finger touch scrolling and browsing of Web pages, documents, messages and contact lists, controlled by simply sweeping a finger across the screen. TouchFLO also offers the ability to view photos and photo slideshows using on-screen controls and to zoom and rotate images with only one hand.
Stylish and sleek in design, the HTC Touch Cruise is a further illustration of HTC’s commitment to innovation and to building a suite of touchscreen devices that cater to a variety of customer needs and styles. The HTC Home screen will provide one-touch access to emails, text messages, calendar appointments and contacts, as well as current weather conditions and forecasts for hundreds of cities around the world. Users then simply sweep their finger up the display to launch an animated, three-dimensional interface comprising three screens: Contacts, Media and Applications. The interface can be spun by swiping a finger right or left across the display, providing efficient access to the features consumers use most.
The new Touch Cruise boasts super fast HSDPA/3.5G connectivity plus Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, making it a highly connected device for consumers on the move. Its 2.8” screen is great for enjoying mobile multimedia and because it runs on Windows Mobile 6, the built-in Windows Media Player is ideal for music and movies.
Florian Seiche, VP of HTC Europe, commented, “The original HTC Touch has already been a phenomenal success, and the HTC Touch Cruise™ with fully integrated GPS adds another dimension to our leading touchscreen device family. We firmly believe in the importance of choice – one device does not fit everyone’s needs – and we’re proud to have been able to launch three HTC Touch devices since June.”
The HTC Touch Cruise utilizes mapping and navigation solutions from TomTom. This navigation software comes complete with a taster city map or the option of full maps of Western Europe. Other key features include a three megapixel auto focus camera, FM radio and Micro SD memory card slot for adding to the 128MB RAM. The device will be available form both retailers and SIM free from HTC from this month.
Launched in June 2007, the HTC Touch was the first member of the HTC Touch family and has proven to be a massive hit since it launched. The HTC Touch Dual, which features HSDPA connectivity and a sliding keypad, was launched in October 2007.
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Images from "coolsmartphone.com"
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images/stories/Polaris/compare1.jpg
Polaris Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfc8CllDk2U&eurl=http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3630.html
Hm... not enough good stuff to make me want to upgrade. Thanks for the info, though.
htc polaris : )
glam said:
Hm... not enough good stuff to make me want to upgrade. Thanks for the info, though.
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Oooooooo! Don't know about that!
I might just have to get onto this one. Orbit with attitude!
sdhc sounds cool and access to the storage card is nice.
but everything else isn't that impressive to me.
think faster cpu will decrease batterylife, don't you think guys ?....
no fm radio anymore ?
I will find out, rumors of RDS at HTC Press will find out from O2 development
Yeah Polaris is there ! Woooo !
Any information about his price ??
A-GPS is almost worthless for navigation
Ooops, Sorry that was stupid
I thought that the Polaris was supposed to have a VGA screen! Some nice improved bits, but nothing to major enough to worth trading my Artemis in.
Looks bigger! Any info on the size of this device, is it bigger then the artemis?
Twiggerdingo said:
Looks bigger! Any info on the size of this device, is it bigger then the artemis?
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About same size as kaiser
Damn wheel
Overall, yes please!!! It is a huge improvement in connectivity, storage and processing power. Two issues though:
It appears that the one thing that I hate on the Orbit is still there: the wheel! Why, o why don't they get rid of this useless gimmick and put direction buttons instead?
It looks like that one of the things I like most in its current form is missing: the trackball.
Does the insider know more about these issues?
LondonDweller said:
Overall, yes please!!! It is a huge improvement in connectivity, storage and processing power. Two issues though:
It appears that the one thing that I hate on the Orbit is still there: the wheel! Why, o why don't they get rid of this useless gimmick and put direction buttons instead?
It looks like that one of the things I like most in its current form is missing: the trackball.
Does the insider know more about these issues?
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Hi!
Well, it looks like you got both. Take a look at post 7 in the original thread http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=10074368
Original thread over on the PPC forum says it is BOTH directional dpad and rotating wheel.
Regards,
PK
Well, it looks like you got both.
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Thanks PK,
I do hope that the "leaked" images of the O2 version are not 100% accurate and we do get more buttons. Buying the subsidised O2 product instead of the generic HTC makes the difference between paying £30 or £400 ( 45 € or 600 € )
What happened to the VGA screen? The early rumors all indicated that this was going to be VGA. How are they going to compete with the E-tens?
Dear Santa (get in early)
Slightly shorter than the orbit, double the storage, double the ram, at least twice as fast a processor, and a really nice flush screen like the touch, oh and better camera and 3g, who said not much of an improvement, looks awesome to me. I think it will be a choice of vogue or polaris for me this xmas, the extra hardware buttons on the polaris could just swing it, but the vogue is a bit smaller hmm...
HTC POLARIS PRE-ORDER
Renamed: HTC Touch Cruise
Updated specs from Unwired:
• Quad Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900 Mhz)
• Triband UMTS (850/1900/2100) ,
• HSDPA and HSUPA connectivity
• 400 Mhz MSM7200 Qualcomm CPU,
• 128 RAM and 256 ROM
• 2.8″ 320×240 px QVGA display
• 3 megapixel camera with autofocus
• 0.3 mpx front camera for video calls
• Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
• Built-in A-GPS
• micro-SD/micro SDHC memory card slot
Recent article from intomobile:
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/10/19/htc-polaris-specs-leaked-renamed-as-htc-touch-cruise.html
uniqueboy said:
Slightly shorter than the orbit, double the storage, double the ram, at least twice as fast a processor, and a really nice flush screen like the touch, oh and better camera and 3g,
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You missed the external MicroSD slot off your list!
At iPhone 3GS there is Google Earth with 3D view of some places mainly monuments, buildings and streets. In Windows Mobile there is Google Maps which is not so powerful.
Is there Google Earth to Windows Mobile? Please inform.
If not, is there some limitation in Windows Mobile devices to run Google Earth?
Thanks.
Remember that the iphone 3GS has the new generation of arm chipsets, just like Palm Pre (coretex A8 or something along those lines). The next generation of HTC products (some rumored to come out this year) will have similar chipsets, some of them more powerful if I'm not mistaken...
There's always been a problem with 3D graphics on this generation of Qualcomm chipsets due to the question of proper drivers. So I don't know if the current chipset is capable, but even if it were, I doubt it'd handle Google Earth without the proper drivers.
I don't know if the mobile version will suffer from it, but the full PC version of google earth has never been stable and has cause lots of PC's to blue screen.
OP: nope- looks like there's no Google Earth client for WM.
solsearch said:
Remember that the iphone 3GS has the new generation of arm chipsets, just like Palm Pre (coretex A8 or something along those lines). The next generation of HTC products (some rumored to come out this year) will have similar chipsets, some of them more powerful if I'm not mistaken...
There's always been a problem with 3D graphics on this generation of Qualcomm chipsets due to the question of proper drivers. So I don't know if the current chipset is capable, but even if it were, I doubt it'd handle Google Earth without the proper drivers.
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Well, the Google Earth app runs on the iPhone/iPhone 3G as well, which has a 412 MHz ARM11 CPU and a PowerVR MBX-Lite GPU (a lot slower than the 3GS' Cortex A8 CPU and PowerVR SGX535 GPU). The Qualcomm MSM7200's ATI Imageon GPU hardware is actually theoretically faster than the MBX-Lite, but the implementation is, for whatever reason (drivers, etc.), a lot slower.
So yeah, I'm inclined to think that Google might be concerned about graphics limitations here, because even Google's own Android OS doesn't have a Google Earth client yet-- presumably because most of the popular Android devices are HTC phones with the same MSM7200 internals.
I have Pro 2 and in general I'm satisfied with it. But also I have access to an iPhone 3GS and I can assure that iPhone is a very fast device, far faster than Pro2. So, I don´t understand:
1 - Why iPhone has no video call?!!!
2 - Why iPhone is so faster compared with Pro2?!!
3 - Why HTC is disable to put graphic part of CPU working?!!!
On the contrary than it´s said, there is an application that permit iPhone to be a multi task device.
Racing car games on iPhone run so well like a PC, and the same with Google Earth. It's incredible the speed of iPhone in all applications. Also there are hundred of applications to iPhone.
However I don´t know why iPhone GPS only works properly with Navigon and not so well with Tomtom!!!
If iPhone had video call, a better GPS and a 800x480 screen (it's only 480x320 - 3.5"), it would be by far the best device in the market mainly due to the speed of it.
cribeiro said:
I have Pro 2 and in general I'm satisfied with it. But also I have access to an iPhone 3GS and I can assure that iPhone is a very fast device, far faster than Pro2. So, I don´t understand:
1 - Why iPhone has no video call?!!!
2 - Why iPhone is so faster compared with Pro2?!!
3 - Why HTC is disable to put graphic part of CPU working?!!!
On the contrary than it´s said, there is an application that permit iPhone to be a multi task device.
Racing car games on iPhone run so well like a PC, and the same with Google Earth. It's incredible the speed of iPhone in all applications. Also there are hundred of applications to iPhone.
However I don´t know why iPhone GPS only works properly with Navigon and not so well with Tomtom!!!
If iPhone had video call, a better GPS and a 800x480 screen (it's only 480x320 - 3.5"), it would be by far the best device in the market mainly due to the speed of it.
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There are a few reasons for this- first, the iPhone 3GS has far superior processing power compared to the TP2, and second, WM can't even make full use of what power the TP2 does have.
To address the first point, the 3GS has an ARM Cortex A8 CPU at 600 MHz (867 MHz underclocked for heat/power savings). Cortex A8 is twice as fast, clock-for-clock, as the ARM11 architecture. The TP2's Qualcomm MSM7200 CPU has an ARM11 at 528 MHz, so in raw processing power, the 3GS is 2-3x faster. Further, MSM7200 lacks ARM11's VFP option, so all floating-point operations are done by software, while the Cortex A8 has the NEON floating-point accelerator. As a result, the 3GS is 40-50x faster than the TP2 at floating-point operations, which iPhone OS X uses quite heavily.
On the graphics end, Apple chose to pair the Cortex A8 with a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU, which blows away everything short of Tegra (about 40% slower than Tegra's GPU, but Tegra's CPU is a slow 600 MHz ARM11, so 3GS' CPU is >200% faster). The SGX 535 is even faster than the Qualcomm Snapdragon's GPU (an ATI Imageon Z430), and from what's been seen so far, the 3GS' GPU is often 10-30x faster than HTC's implementation of the MSM7200 (in TP2/TD2/G1/etc.).
Now onto the second point- Windows CE, which underpins Windows Mobile, only targets the ancient ARMv5 instruction set, so it can't take advantage of newer CPU features, like hardware floating-point units. In addition, WM lacks a composited desktop- so while the iPhone/Pre/Android OSes all use GPU acceleration to handle their UI, WM relies on the CPU, so it can never be as smooth, for the same reason that Windows XP's UI can never be quite as smooth as Vista/7 (which have GPU-composited desktops).
So the result of that is that even if you feed WM a lot of processing power, it won't perform as well as other mobile OSes due to its ancient architecture. See the Toshiba TG01, for example- its 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU (whose architecture is even faster than Cortex A8) is over 60% faster than the 3GS', and its GPU is almost as fast, yet in many cases the 3GS still blows it away in usability and app performance.
HTC saved money by going with the same old Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset for the TP2/TD2, but in reality, even a Snapdragon chip wouldn't solve WM's architectural deficiencies. That won't change until MS moves beyond CE5/6 (probably with WM7 in late 2010).
Stock iPhones can't multitask beyond Apple's own included apps (iTunes, Mail, etc.), but if you jailbreak the phone (a simple 5-minute process- much simpler than flashing a WM ROM), apps like Backgrounder let you multitask. Apple thoroughly optimized its software to extract the most out of its hardware, and it really shows if you push the phone hard-- even the original iPhone/3G perform quite well given their hardware.
As for video calling, no US carrier supports it, and even in Europe, usage rates are abysmal and the quality's usually poor, so it doesn't make too much sense for Apple to integrate until it can guarantee an iChat-quality video experience.
amb9800 said:
Now onto the second point- Windows CE, which underpins Windows Mobile, only targets the ancient ARMv5 instruction set, so it can't take advantage of newer CPU features, like hardware floating-point units.
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Actually, the OS targets ARMv4 so it's even worse, but makes it great to backport the OS to ancient devices.
However, the OS can take advantage of hardware FPU (detects for it even), but NO ODM will turn on the necessary OS support for it even if they ship a device with FPU in it, such as the S3C6410 in the OmniaII/Acer *900, and all the Snapdragon devices. They're all really lazy and enforces that if MS doesn't hand it on a silver platter to them, they won't make it themselves. They rather make more money shipping as many shoddy devices as possible (HTC).
So WM is a pretty poor platform to be on especially with a MSM7200 cpu crippling everybody. Google would be smart to dump HTC/Qualcomm's shackles and move to a modern platform for Android, and WM won't get there first.
It would be especially smart to just stop buying ANY device with a MSM7200 cpu in it unless all you want is feature-phone capabilities.
amb9800 said:
There are a few reasons for this- first, the iPhone 3GS has far superior processing power compared to the TP2, and second, WM can't even make full use of what power the TP2 does have.
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great analysis, very informative!
tanx
Google Earth Client on HD2
Yes, but is there a good reason why an HD2 couldn't handle a Google Earth client (or do you need to load Android instead of WM6.5 to make it work) ?
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Yes, but is there a good reason why an HD2 couldn't handle a Google Earth client (or do you need to load Android instead of WM6.5 to make it work) ?
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Snapdragon's GPU hardware is almost as powerful as the iPhone 3GS' (though driver implementation is still less than optimal), so I'm sure it could handle a Google Earth client. That said, Google's unlikely to release one for WM at this point...
Wow. Now that I am thoughly depressed that I paid 4x as much for my slower and less useful TP2 than for an iphone, I am going to have a hard time paying hte bill on this thing!
Thanks a lot!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/13/qualcomm-unveils-dual-core-snapdragon-reference-handset-at-ces-2/
1.2GHz MSM8660 with Adreno 220 graphics
Considering Microsoft's relationship with Qualcomm, these will probably be a part of the second gen WP7 hardware. ilomilo popped up in the video twice, so there's an indication that the new dual core processors could be related to WP7. You can also stream 3D content to a TV through your phone!
MSM8x60 chipset platform consists of the MSM8260™ and MSM8660™.
Scorpion asynchronous dual-CPU cores, up to 1.2GHz for faster response and processing
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM8260 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.6 Mbps uploads – as well as GSM, GPRS and EDGE
MSM8660 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, WMV-9, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU – up to 88M triangles/sec and 532M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution WXGA (1280x800) display support
16-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
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Full specs are here http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Look for Third Gen Snapdragon
lqaddict said:
Full specs are here http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Look for Third Gen Snapdragon
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Thanks for the link. I'm liking some of these features, especially the last one:
-Scorpion asynchronous dual-CPU cores, up to 1.2GHz for faster response and processing
-MSM8260 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.6 Mbps uploads – as well as GSM, GPRS and EDGE
-High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
-Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, WMV-9, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
-High-resolution WXGA (1280x800) display support
-Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
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Full specs are here http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
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i would like to see new Windows phone 7 come out with This specs
it Will be amazing
maybe for Mango update to the end of year
I will transfer my LG Optimus 7 to a family member of choice, and acquire whatever LG or Samsung come up with that has the same build quality as my current phone, with better screen of course (and better camera) along that dual-core goodness...Here is hoping the Storage and Memory will increase too...(something along the lines of 32GB storage with 1GB RAM and a 100mm screen (3.94 inch) will be awesome).
Matsunichi - Marquis Tablet 9.7 in.
Hello I am new to this forum but have a request.. I bought this tablet for my wife and she really likes it, unfortunately Matsunichi are to cheap to upgrade from 4.0. Do any of you know if there is a 4.1 or 4.2 rom that I can use to upgrade her tablet.
Display:
9.7 inch LED-backlit 1024x768 pixel resolution at 132 ppi with Multi-Touch Display
CPU/Performance:
Texas Instruments processor
1.2GHz dual-core DSP, low-power system
1GB DDR2 Memory
Thanks in advance.:good: