I purchased my Excaliber/Dash SmartPhone thinking the only major difference from PPC was touchscreen support and Office applications but now I'm having difficulty finding information on how to access network resources from a SmartPhone. My next phone will be a Windows Mobile Professional device.
The environment is a Windows 2003 Small Business Server Professional network. I can access the web server but cannot figure out how to browse the network or join the domain. I had to disable certificate checking in the Dash registry to connect via WIFI through the Radius Server. ActiveSync 4.5 works just fine with Exchange and Outlook.
I'm thinking maybe some third party software might help but I have no idea where to begin. Can someone point me in the right direction?
No RDP or network share support in non-touchscreen (standard) mobiles. Closest you can get is some kind of FTP app.
Why would you want to join your phone to a domain? I mean I know the option is there in professional devices, but what does it actually do for you?
Thanks for the information. Microsoft Active Sync allows you to browse the device from a computer (limited) so it doesn't appear that it would be that difficult to have the device at least browse the computer and possibly browse the network.
I dislike devices that have limited functionality built into them. For example. My Samsung T409 has WIFI and Bluetooth and GPRS/EDGE but the WIFI can only be used for T-Mobile [email protected] and Bluetooth can only connect to headsets. I understand that there are many reasons for this from economical to technical.
Similarly, restricting networking capabilities in mobile devices just doesn't make much sense to me but I suppose the typical Smartphone user would not care. I mean that's supposed to be the nature of mobile devices - seamless connectivity. When my T409 switches from a WIFI hotspot to a cell tower it's seamless. I don't even know that has occured until I look at the display.
And as for joining domains, that is like so many other things techheads do like overclocking, running multiple monitors, using KVMs and multiple computers, running Exchange and Internet Security and Acceleration Server and Windows Server Update Services and other stuff. Most people wont need to do this but it's a must for a Techy. Using domains for security and group policy is just a great way to manage computers and devices. And also the option is in my version of the WM6.1 cooked ROM.
In my never ending quest I found a decent application called MyMobiler which will allow you to view your Smartphone on a PC and to some extent control it. http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/download-my-mobiler-v1-0.html
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Hey everyone. I'm looking for a way to turn my Hermes into a mobile hotspot. Be rather handy to make my PSP playable online wherever I happen to be sitting, like work for example....
Does anyone know of a way to do this? Internet connect allows me to connect via USB or Bluetooth, but not WiFi, so if there's a workaround or a magical piece of software that will allow this to happen, I'd love to hear about it.
Cheers team
This would be cool.. will also look now for something like this..
from my looking into the same idea it can't be done under windows mobile due to the MS TCP/IP stack.
maybe if linux for the Hermes gets serious then it will work but probably only multi client peer to peer mode rather than ap mode.
please pove me wrong as I think it is a killer app idea for 3G devices like the hermes.
Damn. How does the MS TCP/IP stack prevent it from doing that? I'm not questioning what you say, just wondering what the mechanics are that stop it? I'm realistic about what it could do, in that I'd only be able to connect one device at a time as opposed to it operating as a fully fledged router. I'm surprised this kind of functionality has been overlooked by Microsoft, as I'm sure other people who use WM devices would look for this kind of functionality also, not just people slacking off at work with a PSP or DS
The XDA gurus who figured out the VoIP over 3G or WiFi may have a deeper insight to this.
it is possible to use hermes as a router over bluetooth
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it is possible to use hermes as a router over bluetooth
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Yes. It's possible to do this:
Internet<->RAN(3G)<->Bluetooth<->Laptop,etc
But I think the original poster is asking whether this is possible:
Internet<->RAN(3G)<->Wi-Fi<->Laptop, etc
..or at least that's what I would like to be able to do...
Of course
It's possible. So think about an ad-hoc network. PC-PC and internet sharing gets you out to the web.
Same kind of scenario could apply, but the device doesn't necessarily need to be able to complete the routes. The bluetooth PAN network already does this, and if you have 3G, WiFi isn't usually going to be connected to a network that's much faster.
Only problem the family will be upset when you leave the house, if that's a factor for your setup.
The Internet Sharing feature could be leveraged to provide this functionality, but USB and BT are the only ways to connect with the stock application. That would be an excellent basis for this new application, though.
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The Internet Sharing feature could be leveraged to provide this functionality, but USB and BT are the only ways to connect with the stock application. That would be an excellent basis for this new application, though.
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this has been poss for a long time by using a PC to do the DHCP and roting to share a WAN connection from the phone. The question (at least how I read it) is asking about the phone routing and sharing its WAN connection over wifi to one or more clients that may not even be PCs (game devices etc)
can't be done IMHO
When I startup the remote desktop application and try to connect to a server, I get an error message if I haven't already connected to the internet with another application. I've tried installing the wm6 terminal services client from several different downloads, but I haven't found one that will cause my 8525 to connect to the internet when you run it. The error message that shows up is this:
Connection status
Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1. Specified computer name or ip does not exist
2. A network error occurred while establishing the connection.
If I startup IE and browse to a website, it will work fine. Anyone know what I need to do to make the wm6 TS client initiate the internet connection?
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When I startup the remote desktop application and try to connect to a server, I get an error message if I haven't already connected to the internet with another application. I've tried installing the wm6 terminal services client from several different downloads, but I haven't found one that will cause my 8525 to connect to the internet when you run it. The error message that shows up is this:
Connection status
Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1. Specified computer name or ip does not exist
2. A network error occurred while establishing the connection.
If I startup IE and browse to a website, it will work fine. Anyone know what I need to do to make the wm6 TS client initiate the internet connection?
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It uses the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:" setting in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks. You can set it to the preferred internet connection, and that should make it trigger on attempting to connect with remote desktop.
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It uses the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:" setting in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks. You can set it to the preferred internet connection, and that should make it trigger on attempting to connect with remote desktop.
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I changed the private network settings to media net, but it still won't trigger a connection. I also tried setting it to isp, but that didn't work either. Any other suggestions? I can't be the only one with this problem.
I'm having the same issue.
From what I've read, this is about as good as it gets in wm6 unless microsoft decidss to release the terminal services client as a stand alone install for wm6. They changed the licensing in wm6. In wm5, the rdp client was a required piece. In wm6, it's an optional licensed addon. That means that unless our wireless phone provider is willing to pay to license the rdp client for our devices, it isn't officially available for them and definitely not supported. Unfortunately, the new AT&T didn't bother to mention that they opted out of the rdp client for wm6 on the 8525 in their upgrade notes. It's a shame really. I won't be buying another windows mobile powered device until it comes with the rdp client again or microsoft decides to stop being stupid and just release a free download for it like they do for all their other platforms. For now, I just hope that logmein continues to remane free and available. Technically, it's a far better solution for our devices than rdp anyway.
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From what I've read, this is about as good as it gets in wm6 unless microsoft decidss to release the terminal services client as a stand alone install for wm6. They changed the licensing in wm6. In wm5, the rdp client was a required piece. In wm6, it's an optional licensed addon. That means that unless our wireless phone provider is willing to pay to license the rdp client for our devices, it isn't officially available for them and definitely not supported. Unfortunately, the new AT&T didn't bother to mention that they opted out of the rdp client for wm6 on the 8525 in their upgrade notes. It's a shame really. I won't be buying another windows mobile powered device until it comes with the rdp client again or microsoft decides to stop being stupid and just release a free download for it like they do for all their other platforms. For now, I just hope that logmein continues to remane free and available. Technically, it's a far better solution for our devices than rdp anyway.
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wtf...well anyways the client is around on the forums, so why worry about MS, and it has nothing to do with that, set your data connection to always on, and you wont have to initiate the connection with IE, Resco FTP, and the old aim client are the same way..
Built most of my site from behind the wm6 client, seems to work fine here.
RDP does not work with VPN
I have an 8525 with WM6.0. I am able to connect to the VPN through GPRS. However I am unable to use RDP. I have installed Remote Desktop Mobile but it will not connect to my terminal server running window server 2k. Does any one have any ideas?
Anyone have any experience with a working VPN client freeware or not on the TP2?
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Anyone have any experience with a working VPN client freeware or not on the TP2?
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Google is your friend..
http://www.google.com/search?client...reeware+windows+mobile+vpn&btnG=Google+Search
Google is indeed one's friend, and I expect the OP has done many searches exactly like the one above, as I have.
However if you go beyond looking at the google headlines you soon discover that none of these solutions is in fact freeware, as he had requested.
So far I've spent many many hours trying to find a decent winmo IPSec client, free or reasonably priced, and my conclusion so far is that there isn't one. None I can find are free, and the ones that don't cost ridiculous money all have serious functional issues and/or stupid design decisions like requiring you to run their PC version to be able to create security profiles for the mobile one.
Dennis
Actually I see the OP in fact asked for free or otherwise, but they also asked if people had experience with such things, not just were they around.
What about
http://www.zeroshell.net/eng/openvpn-client/#OpenVPN-Windows-Mobile
OpenVPN is extremely nice, but it only works against OpenVPN servers. If you're trying to do IPsec VPN, OpenVPN won't help.
I have done a google search but the results are so generic. I figured people using some of the best WinMo phones would have tried some of these.
I tried searching XDA but did not really come up with anything.
Open VPN probably will not work for me unfortunately.
I need something compatible with cisco.
There are numerous kinds of ipsec, you'd need to tell us which ones your cisco device supports. I've used the openvpn client on the tp2 to some success.
This page has always had the most info in ipsec, I recommend checking some of the various guides on it.
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/openswan-l2tp.html#No_MSCHAP
Here's a quote from it:
Windows Mobile and Pocket PC 2003 ship with a built-in L2TP/IPsec client. Requires MS-CHAP support in pppd.
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I think it's relatively easy to connect to Windows based VPN servers running MS software but I'm not so sure how well it fares with Cisco kit. I'd be surprised if the cisco box didn't support the l2tp protocol, I think it's very common. I believe the incompatibilities come about from the authentication part, which is what the MS-CHAP support mentioned above refers to. Further down the linked page it mentions Cisco kit.
I use the Bluefire Security Technologies Mobile Security VPN 2.7.5.706 .
However it seems Bluefire is out of business...
But it works perfectly for establishing VPN connections to Cisco routers and PIX/ASA's, even with token authentication.
Previously I used the Bluefire client for a few years and it was the only reliable one for Cisco concentrators, but as you said they have gone out of business now.
Also recently I've found I can't get the Bluefire client to work with some of the newer roms I've flashed (NRG etc.), perhaps changes in the newer winmo network stack or something.
I have tried the others and they are expensive and to be honest too much hassle to set up and have lousy error reporting to work out what you did wrong, I've wasted days, literally.
If you have the newer Cisco VPN kit they have dropped IPSec and gone for SSL VPN instead and do their own client for Windows Mobile which is OK.
rdleeuw what rom are you using, stock?
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I'm using the stock ROM 1.19.401.0 (51489) WWE with Radi0 3.44.25.27 .
I know how to do this in Windows and Linux, but not really sure how to go about it on Android...4.0.4 to be exact.
What I'm trying to accomplish is to have both active, with the 3G/4G handling internet-based activities and the Wifi handling local network access.
Why? Basically my home internet is horrible however I have some services/shares on my LAN that I want to access on my phone. And I can't switch between them, not an option. Because many times I'm wanting to take a picture from my file server (Accessed over Wifi) and then upload it to Flickr (Accessed over 3G/4G).
In Windows it's setting the gateway metric, and I would set the connection with the internet with the lower metric while the LAN-only connection gets a higher one.
I'm not aware of any way to do this on any Android - I would imagine it requires a heavily modded ROM.
You could of course tether a Windows or Linux computer on your network to the Android and implement gateway metrics from that end, in order to copy photos from the LAN server to the Internet via cellular.
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I'm not aware of any way to do this on any Android - I would imagine it requires a heavily modded ROM.
You could of course tether a Windows or Linux computer on your network to the Android and implement gateway metrics from that end, in order to copy photos from the LAN server to the Internet via cellular.
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I'm agreeing with him ^
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Ask Cyanogen, if he could do such a thing, afterall, he has been hacking/modding Android since it's inital release. If anyone can help you, it's him... Sorry dude.
While I've never tried it, you might want to try setting up a DHCP reservation on your LAN that DOES NOT provide a gateway. This should allow Internet access using your egress connection while still allowing local LAN access-at least this is how it works for most computers that are multihomed.
My work uses a specific VPN setup for use. How can I setup VPN to their servers on my Surface RT? Are any clients able to run on RT?
Thanks.
On non-jailbroken RT, there are only two options I know of for VPN access:
1) Use the built-in Microsoft VPN capability. This is accessed the same way as on other Windows machines. It won't work with most third-party VPN servers, though.
2) Use a device that is able to access the VPN and then share a WiFi network from that device, exposing the VPN via connection sharing. This is likely against company policy, though, since in that case anybody who can see that WiFi network can get into the VPN as well (if they have / can guess / can crack the password).
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On non-jailbroken RT, there are only two options I know of for VPN access:
1) Use the built-in Microsoft VPN capability. This is accessed the same way as on other Windows machines. It won't work with most third-party VPN servers, though.
2) Use a device that is able to access the VPN and then share a WiFi network from that device, exposing the VPN via connection sharing. This is likely against company policy, though, since in that case anybody who can see that WiFi network can get into the VPN as well (if they have / can guess / can crack the password).
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Thanks ! Did not think about the connection sharing thing....
I don't know for home the RT was made, since iOS and Android have more functionality than RT. I may end up selling my RT...... :crying:
Depends how you define "more functionality" - I mean, neither iOS nor Android have a built-in VPN feature, for example, as far as I know. They most certainly didn't at less than 1.5 years since release. However, it is true that both of them eventually added support for third-party VPNs (Android had unofficial support via rooting the device earlier, which is sort-of possible on RT if anybody bothered to port VPN clients to jailbroken RT) and RT does not have any such official support yet.
With that said, yeah, Microsoft markets RT as a home-and-student thing, not a business thing (the first version didn't have Outlook, for example).