As a previous Symbian OS user, now quite happily converted to the world of WM, there is one thing which (In my experience at least) Symbian did alot better.... Manage my data connections.
With my Nokia E61, I was able to have the device prompt me which connection type or access point(GPRS vs. WiFi vs. Bluetooth) to use whenever I tried to make a connection. It also allowed me to set default connections for certain applications etc etc...
What I would love to have is the ability to easily tell my device WHICH connection to use without alot of hassle, or fear that my device will connect to GPRS while I am roaming and have access to WiFi instead.
What applications are available to manage this type of thing, and is there any concensus on which works the best? Any and all constructive commentary would be greatly appreciated.
Do you even know about the Comm manager on your device?
You can pick connections that way. Check Schaps updated Comm Manager.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when wifi is available the device automaticely connect through it (even if data connection is still present).
There is one known exception: Windows Live Mobile which always try to use the data connection. In order to enforce it to use the wifi you have to kill the data connexion and cancel the data connexion that WLM will initiate at its start.
My guesses are that an allready opened connexion will stay on the data channel even if the wifi is fired afterward. For instance, if you start to stream a video through your data plan, then start the wifi, the video will still download through the data connexion
I had a P900, I know exactly what you need/want.
wm5/wm6 just cant do it.
you want the device to ask you what connection to use when a program tries to access the net.
you want to simply define a program and it's connection...
well, the guys at M$ didn't think we need to choose ...
Side track abit, if you don't mind.
I'm waiting for the launch of Sony Ericsson P1, which will be on Symbian. Do you know of any site where developers come together to do things to improve the OS? Much like this forum?
This forum is much of a reason why I'm still sticking on to my Dopod...
agovinoveritas said:
Do you even know about the Comm manager on your device?
You can pick connections that way. Check Schaps updated Comm Manager.
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Of course I know about the com manager. UNFORTUNATELY, the device does not just go for wifi when wifi is available... It doesn't care, and defaults to a GPRS connection.
Elivne knows what I'm talking about.... I'm glad someone does.
It's just frustrating when a device doesn't seem to actually the wifi connection that is available to it.
Part of my work in network administration is to locate and deal with "rogue" access points that might comprimise network security. Currently I'm using a Sharp Zaurus with Kismet to do this, but I don't always carry it with me and I DO always have my Cingular/AT&T 8525. I basically need a program that will capture all packets from the air into a file that can later be analyzed with Wireshark (Ethereal).
Yesterday I did a search of the Hermes threads looking for such a program and found several for MW5 and TyTn, (which I assume is another Hermes phone). None of them work, because they can't/don't put my WIFI interface into promiscuous mode.
From what I have read, it seems that the wireless drivers are the key here. I'm currently running ROM version vp3G 3.0.0 with Radio 1.41.00.10, which I downloaded from a link found here. Previously I had used several others of the excellent WM6 ROMs available on this forum, but never tried using the 8525 as a sniffer with any of them.
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
TIA
Walt
Damn, u want your phone to launch missles or something too?
yea and i want an tool to sniff the password of wpa-psk TKIP
thats where the best moment of my life.
Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
I am no pro at wifi sniffing, but this program had a promiscuous mode, I think.
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
I am no pro at wifi sniffing, but this program had a promiscuous mode, I think.
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/...r/sniffer.html
Yesterday 12:23 PM
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Now that WOULD be cool! Maybe illegal? Would sniffing data from a cellular connection be the same thing as a cellular wiretap?
I did try AirScanner, and it's a great sniffer, but it won't put the wireless I/F into promiscuous mode, so I can only look at packets addressed to my device.
What I'm really trying to learn here, missles notwithstanding ;D is whether or not this is a hardware limitation. If not, then I will continue to look for software and/or ROM drivers that will work.
Walt
try aircrack
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Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
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Not sure what you'd achieve, as encryption is negotiated between each SIM and its authorising server. Intermediate equipment only gets to see the encrypted stream. Even if your chipset was capable of full-time reception, your battery would go down a lot quicker, and all you'd see is how many channels and timeslots are in use, if that!
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
I have used VXsniffer before (http://www.cambridgevx.com) on one of my Ipaq PDAs and it worked great but that was about 2 years ago. I have not been able to find any intrusive "sniffing" programs that have worked on my Tytn but there are tools out there that work with the current ROMs (VP3G's and Schaps) that are like Ministumbler and will show you AP locations. (Wififofum and SniffThis come to mind) They have their bugs but in general they work.
I searched for days when I first got my Tytn for an intrusive sniffer and never found anything.
Brad
I've used WiFiFoFum and Mini Stumbler (off-shoot of network stumbler). I can't say from memory if they do promiscuous or just passive scanning, but both produce results that can be analyzed in NetStumbler or Ethereal.
-Steve
walts said:
Part of my work in network administration is to locate and deal with "rogue" access points that might comprimise network security. Currently I'm using a Sharp Zaurus with Kismet to do this, but I don't always carry it with me and I DO always have my Cingular/AT&T 8525. I basically need a program that will capture all packets from the air into a file that can later be analyzed with Wireshark (Ethereal).
Yesterday I did a search of the Hermes threads looking for such a program and found several for MW5 and TyTn, (which I assume is another Hermes phone). None of them work, because they can't/don't put my WIFI interface into promiscuous mode.
From what I have read, it seems that the wireless drivers are the key here. I'm currently running ROM version vp3G 3.0.0 with Radio 1.41.00.10, which I downloaded from a link found here. Previously I had used several others of the excellent WM6 ROMs available on this forum, but never tried using the 8525 as a sniffer with any of them.
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
TIA
Walt
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I have never heard of promisc mode being possible on any WM device. I believe i've read that it is in fact a hardware limitation. but who knows, with all the hacked drivers that float around maybe someone will get around this.
now that i mention it... it could be sufficient to disassemble the wireless drivers / ip stack (they are NOT on the radio rom) and NOP out the function that checks the mac address. or change the branch instruction at the end of it to "always execute" as if it were matching the device's own mac address. hmm. it wouldn't be true promisc mode, but it could work.
think i might give it a go myself.
in the mean time, if youre concerned about rogue APs on your network, check out my recent post about my discovery of how to enable Internet Sharing over WiFi (turns the phone into an Access Point):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360
not directly related, but might be of interest.
fluxist
larsuck said:
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
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Tried vxIPConfig from Cambridge (http://www.cambridgevx.com) ?
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Tried vxIPConfig from Cambridge (http://www.cambridgevx.comhttp://www.cam.com) ?
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Looks like it could be a winner. Since I do not know enough of the teck behind it all, if someone tries this out and it works out, report back your findings for the rest of us
GB
walts said:
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
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For trinity and hermes, I've found nothing. Drivers... you know
But Airscanner is the best, I'm using it on an Ipaq...
Ciao
larsuck said:
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
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try to tether and run www.speedtest.net unless your network is on a proxy
from your computer it will be easy to dermine the IP. www.speedtest.com is easy because it tels your speed + ip and carrier connection
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Looks like it could be a winner. Since I do not know enough of the teck behind it all, if someone tries this out and it works out, report back your findings for the rest of us
GB
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vxIPConfig is not a packet sniffing tool like Wireshark (Ethereal) or the like. It gives you "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" functions and can give you TCP, UDP and IP stats but can’t actually capture the packets and view the encapsulation headers.
AirScanner and vxSniffer are the only 2 moderately priced utilities that can do that for WindowsMobile that I am aware of.
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vxIPConfig is not a packet sniffing tool like Wireshark (Ethereal) or the like. It gives you "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" functions and can give you TCP, UDP and IP stats but can’t actually capture the packets and view the encapsulation headers.
AirScanner and vxSniffer are the only 2 moderately priced utilities that can do that for WindowsMobile that I am aware of.
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Just checked those two out and our Hermes WiFi adapter doesn't support promiscuous mode
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Just checked those two out and our Hermes WiFi adapter doesn't support promiscuous mode
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Is there anyone that understands the inner workings of our WiFi adaptors and drivers that may be able to shed some light if there would be a hack that would make our Hermes compatable with these programs? If so then maybe the search could be over . So far this looks like the closest it's come.
Sniffing
I also am in the field of network security.
I use Wififofum for searching and logging all wireless networks. It has filters such as show only non secure etc. It also has GPS log support. You can then convert the log files to upload as a overlay on google earth.
Airscanner works great on the trinity as a packet sniffer of the wireless.
Just my 2cents
It doesn't matter how many programs you try it won't work. Promiscuous mode is being prevented by the driver. The only possible work around would be if someone made a new driver using an open source driver. Since HTC has not released any open source drivers for their device I see no possible solution.
can someone help me finding network tools working with Kavana 040804?
need ping, tracert and WakeOnLan alternatives.
thanks.
try EM IP UTILITY
anyone succeeded to start network functionality under Pocket DOS?(or any DOS rom: msdos6.22, freedos1.0, etc)
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anyone succeeded to start network functionality under Pocket DOS?(or any DOS rom: msdos6.22, freedos1.0, etc)
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I tried it but did not succeed yet.
I was a little disappointed with my Smartphone Dash at first because it didnt have networking capability built-in. But after purchasing a Bluetooth adapter it's not such a big deal any more. I can accomplish much of want I want to do via BT. For example, I was unable to set the Dash up as a WIFI internet access point but could easily set it up as a BT internet access point (PAN). So BT connectivity turned out to be the next best thing to having a PPC.
Thanks for the tip about the EM IP Utility! I was looking for something like that too.
Hi everyone!
I'm having kind of a special problem.
I'm an electro acoustic musician and finds the Desire a lot of fun.
My new project is to use its accelerometer etc and for that I need to connect it to my Mac running OSX 10.6.5.
The issue I'm having is that my network (campus ish) won't allow me to open any ports. I don't think it's a good idea to hack it, so my next idea is to create a network between my Mac and my Desire. This network won't have access to the internet.
It also has to be via Wifi since the app I'm using only allows communication through wifi and my java skills aren't good enough to edit the apk.
I therefore run Oxygen 1.0 (GREAT rom btw) which is supposed to accept ad-hoc, and my computers own network does show up when i browse it in my phone.
The problem is that it dosn't connect since it isn't given an ip. I imagine there has to be a solution to this and I'm just not seeing it. I'm also thinking it could be an OSX issue and not really a question for this forum, but I'm pretty sure it should be possible to just make the phone not requesting an internet ip.
I've tried to set a static IP but this won't work ether.
Does anyone have a clue on how to do? I'm quite desperate really. Been searching for a solution online for quite some time and I haven't found the right one. Probably because most people using ad-hoc want it's phone to connect to the internet and therefore not having my kind of trouble. Unfortunately I have no way of connecting my computer to the router with wire since the router is about 400 meters away. Once of corse, but i really need a wireless solution in the long run.
Thanks!
Christopher
Hey everyone, iv just started using my phone as a multimedia remote when im in bed watching some netflix or something. And the app (Gremote) uses wifi to connect to the gremote server on my pc in order to control it.
Now I know that arc's do seem to have some pretty terrible wifi problems in terms of dropping out etc. This ever really bothered me, until i started to use it as a remote, and now its become a pain....
Is there any 'definitive' way to fix this problem? If not, is there a way for me to connect my phone to wifi through the pc's connection rather than directly to the router? (without the use of cables)
Thanks!
yes it is possible to connect your phone to PC's wifi...i always use that...search for wifi hotspot creator software for PC
Try this http://www.softpedia.com/get/Network-Tools/Misc-Networking-Tools/WiFi-HotSpot-Creator.shtml
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yes it is possible to connect your phone to PC's wifi...i always use that...search for wifi hotspot creator software for PC
Try this http://www.softpedia.com/get/Network-Tools/Misc-Networking-Tools/WiFi-HotSpot-Creator.shtml
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Awesome thanks ill take a look! hotspot is the word i was looking for, heard it before, just escaped my mind . Since you use it this way, do you notice any significant improvement on the wifi signal?
Thanks.
Just like to follow up for anyone else that might be wondering, it really does boost the signal, i now have full wifi signal on my Arc S, which is great for using it as a remote since there are no more drop outs causing the mouse to jump all over. Also, just for clarification i used the software called "connectify".
Cheers.