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Hey everyone. I'm looking for a way to turn my Hermes into a mobile hotspot. Be rather handy to make my PSP playable online wherever I happen to be sitting, like work for example....
Does anyone know of a way to do this? Internet connect allows me to connect via USB or Bluetooth, but not WiFi, so if there's a workaround or a magical piece of software that will allow this to happen, I'd love to hear about it.
Cheers team
This would be cool.. will also look now for something like this..
from my looking into the same idea it can't be done under windows mobile due to the MS TCP/IP stack.
maybe if linux for the Hermes gets serious then it will work but probably only multi client peer to peer mode rather than ap mode.
please pove me wrong as I think it is a killer app idea for 3G devices like the hermes.
Damn. How does the MS TCP/IP stack prevent it from doing that? I'm not questioning what you say, just wondering what the mechanics are that stop it? I'm realistic about what it could do, in that I'd only be able to connect one device at a time as opposed to it operating as a fully fledged router. I'm surprised this kind of functionality has been overlooked by Microsoft, as I'm sure other people who use WM devices would look for this kind of functionality also, not just people slacking off at work with a PSP or DS
The XDA gurus who figured out the VoIP over 3G or WiFi may have a deeper insight to this.
it is possible to use hermes as a router over bluetooth
kivimart said:
it is possible to use hermes as a router over bluetooth
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Yes. It's possible to do this:
Internet<->RAN(3G)<->Bluetooth<->Laptop,etc
But I think the original poster is asking whether this is possible:
Internet<->RAN(3G)<->Wi-Fi<->Laptop, etc
..or at least that's what I would like to be able to do...
Of course
It's possible. So think about an ad-hoc network. PC-PC and internet sharing gets you out to the web.
Same kind of scenario could apply, but the device doesn't necessarily need to be able to complete the routes. The bluetooth PAN network already does this, and if you have 3G, WiFi isn't usually going to be connected to a network that's much faster.
Only problem the family will be upset when you leave the house, if that's a factor for your setup.
The Internet Sharing feature could be leveraged to provide this functionality, but USB and BT are the only ways to connect with the stock application. That would be an excellent basis for this new application, though.
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The Internet Sharing feature could be leveraged to provide this functionality, but USB and BT are the only ways to connect with the stock application. That would be an excellent basis for this new application, though.
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this has been poss for a long time by using a PC to do the DHCP and roting to share a WAN connection from the phone. The question (at least how I read it) is asking about the phone routing and sharing its WAN connection over wifi to one or more clients that may not even be PCs (game devices etc)
can't be done IMHO
Part of my work in network administration is to locate and deal with "rogue" access points that might comprimise network security. Currently I'm using a Sharp Zaurus with Kismet to do this, but I don't always carry it with me and I DO always have my Cingular/AT&T 8525. I basically need a program that will capture all packets from the air into a file that can later be analyzed with Wireshark (Ethereal).
Yesterday I did a search of the Hermes threads looking for such a program and found several for MW5 and TyTn, (which I assume is another Hermes phone). None of them work, because they can't/don't put my WIFI interface into promiscuous mode.
From what I have read, it seems that the wireless drivers are the key here. I'm currently running ROM version vp3G 3.0.0 with Radio 1.41.00.10, which I downloaded from a link found here. Previously I had used several others of the excellent WM6 ROMs available on this forum, but never tried using the 8525 as a sniffer with any of them.
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
TIA
Walt
Damn, u want your phone to launch missles or something too?
yea and i want an tool to sniff the password of wpa-psk TKIP
thats where the best moment of my life.
Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
I am no pro at wifi sniffing, but this program had a promiscuous mode, I think.
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
I am no pro at wifi sniffing, but this program had a promiscuous mode, I think.
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/...r/sniffer.html
Yesterday 12:23 PM
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Now that WOULD be cool! Maybe illegal? Would sniffing data from a cellular connection be the same thing as a cellular wiretap?
I did try AirScanner, and it's a great sniffer, but it won't put the wireless I/F into promiscuous mode, so I can only look at packets addressed to my device.
What I'm really trying to learn here, missles notwithstanding ;D is whether or not this is a hardware limitation. If not, then I will continue to look for software and/or ROM drivers that will work.
Walt
try aircrack
larsuck said:
Long as we are making requests, I need a packet sniffer that works for the gprs radio of my phone, not the wifi radio. Is there such a creature?
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Not sure what you'd achieve, as encryption is negotiated between each SIM and its authorising server. Intermediate equipment only gets to see the encrypted stream. Even if your chipset was capable of full-time reception, your battery would go down a lot quicker, and all you'd see is how many channels and timeslots are in use, if that!
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
I have used VXsniffer before (http://www.cambridgevx.com) on one of my Ipaq PDAs and it worked great but that was about 2 years ago. I have not been able to find any intrusive "sniffing" programs that have worked on my Tytn but there are tools out there that work with the current ROMs (VP3G's and Schaps) that are like Ministumbler and will show you AP locations. (Wififofum and SniffThis come to mind) They have their bugs but in general they work.
I searched for days when I first got my Tytn for an intrusive sniffer and never found anything.
Brad
I've used WiFiFoFum and Mini Stumbler (off-shoot of network stumbler). I can't say from memory if they do promiscuous or just passive scanning, but both produce results that can be analyzed in NetStumbler or Ethereal.
-Steve
walts said:
Part of my work in network administration is to locate and deal with "rogue" access points that might comprimise network security. Currently I'm using a Sharp Zaurus with Kismet to do this, but I don't always carry it with me and I DO always have my Cingular/AT&T 8525. I basically need a program that will capture all packets from the air into a file that can later be analyzed with Wireshark (Ethereal).
Yesterday I did a search of the Hermes threads looking for such a program and found several for MW5 and TyTn, (which I assume is another Hermes phone). None of them work, because they can't/don't put my WIFI interface into promiscuous mode.
From what I have read, it seems that the wireless drivers are the key here. I'm currently running ROM version vp3G 3.0.0 with Radio 1.41.00.10, which I downloaded from a link found here. Previously I had used several others of the excellent WM6 ROMs available on this forum, but never tried using the 8525 as a sniffer with any of them.
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
TIA
Walt
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I have never heard of promisc mode being possible on any WM device. I believe i've read that it is in fact a hardware limitation. but who knows, with all the hacked drivers that float around maybe someone will get around this.
now that i mention it... it could be sufficient to disassemble the wireless drivers / ip stack (they are NOT on the radio rom) and NOP out the function that checks the mac address. or change the branch instruction at the end of it to "always execute" as if it were matching the device's own mac address. hmm. it wouldn't be true promisc mode, but it could work.
think i might give it a go myself.
in the mean time, if youre concerned about rogue APs on your network, check out my recent post about my discovery of how to enable Internet Sharing over WiFi (turns the phone into an Access Point):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360
not directly related, but might be of interest.
fluxist
larsuck said:
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
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Tried vxIPConfig from Cambridge (http://www.cambridgevx.com) ?
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Tried vxIPConfig from Cambridge (http://www.cambridgevx.comhttp://www.cam.com) ?
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Looks like it could be a winner. Since I do not know enough of the teck behind it all, if someone tries this out and it works out, report back your findings for the rest of us
GB
walts said:
Question: Does anyone know of a ROM/software configuration for the 8525 that will allow promiscuous sniffing of WI-FI networks?
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For trinity and hermes, I've found nothing. Drivers... you know
But Airscanner is the best, I'm using it on an Ipaq...
Ciao
larsuck said:
I need to sniff the ip info of my data connection. I have tried almost every other means of getting it and am at my wits end. I figured it was probably encoded, but at this point I am grasping at straws.
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try to tether and run www.speedtest.net unless your network is on a proxy
from your computer it will be easy to dermine the IP. www.speedtest.com is easy because it tels your speed + ip and carrier connection
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Looks like it could be a winner. Since I do not know enough of the teck behind it all, if someone tries this out and it works out, report back your findings for the rest of us
GB
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vxIPConfig is not a packet sniffing tool like Wireshark (Ethereal) or the like. It gives you "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" functions and can give you TCP, UDP and IP stats but can’t actually capture the packets and view the encapsulation headers.
AirScanner and vxSniffer are the only 2 moderately priced utilities that can do that for WindowsMobile that I am aware of.
Park City said:
vxIPConfig is not a packet sniffing tool like Wireshark (Ethereal) or the like. It gives you "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" functions and can give you TCP, UDP and IP stats but can’t actually capture the packets and view the encapsulation headers.
AirScanner and vxSniffer are the only 2 moderately priced utilities that can do that for WindowsMobile that I am aware of.
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Just checked those two out and our Hermes WiFi adapter doesn't support promiscuous mode
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Just checked those two out and our Hermes WiFi adapter doesn't support promiscuous mode
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Is there anyone that understands the inner workings of our WiFi adaptors and drivers that may be able to shed some light if there would be a hack that would make our Hermes compatable with these programs? If so then maybe the search could be over . So far this looks like the closest it's come.
Sniffing
I also am in the field of network security.
I use Wififofum for searching and logging all wireless networks. It has filters such as show only non secure etc. It also has GPS log support. You can then convert the log files to upload as a overlay on google earth.
Airscanner works great on the trinity as a packet sniffer of the wireless.
Just my 2cents
It doesn't matter how many programs you try it won't work. Promiscuous mode is being prevented by the driver. The only possible work around would be if someone made a new driver using an open source driver. Since HTC has not released any open source drivers for their device I see no possible solution.
Windows Mobile 6 devices offer Internet Sharing feature for Bluetooth and USB. It works in this way that you start Internet Sharing application inside of your Windows Mobile phone and then other devices can share the Internet connection. What if you could fool Windows Mobile phone and instead of Bluetooth use WiFi? Would it be possible? Yes, it is:
how to use Internet Sharing over WiFi, which essentially makes the Hermes an Access Point.
Do the following:
1) Open Settings->Internet Sharing. Enable IS for Bluetooth PAN.
2) Change HKLM\Comm\ConnectionSharing\PrivateInterface to "TIACXWLN1" (it should currently be "BTPAN1").
3) Open Settings-> Connections -> Wi-Fi. Select Network Adapters tab. Click IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi.
4) Enter IP address 192.168.1.1 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Click OK.
5) Select Wireless tab. Add New.. to add the Network name for your ad-hoc network (I prefer "adhoc"
6) Set the client computer to use the same ad-hoc network. Client will receive an IP address from the device (don't need to manually set the IP).
I got this from a different website.
detailed information on this topic you can fined at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332360
edward
Edward!! you rock! this has got to be the sweetest thing, since wm6..for me atleast, Im actually posting from my old hacked OSX x86, I really cant believe this worked, but it did.
Thanks a ton for sharing the info.
Edward, Can you plse explain why you set the wifi adaptor to a fixed IP?
The 192.168.1.1 is as far as I know only valid if the router has the 192.168.1 range. For me it should be 192.168.123. ...
Thx for an explanation.
a cab would be perfect!
Yes! A very nice feature; could this be put in as a cab?
Or better, in the comm manager.....
Anyone?
aeroke said:
Edward, Can you plse explain why you set the wifi adaptor to a fixed IP?
The 192.168.1.1 is as far as I know only valid if the router has the 192.168.1 range. For me it should be 192.168.123. ...
Thx for an explanation.
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Your phone is now the router.
edward-riko
I tried the steps to the letter however, I am unable to connect. I tried on one device running Schaps 3.54c & the other vp3G. I get confused after I complete the step "select wireless tab then add new." The new wireless network shows unavailable on my device" I think I'm unsure how to configure the connection on the PC side. I'm unable to get the wireless configurator to allow me to input a specific IP address. I'm using Windows XP Pro. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
OK, I have been resisting, but why would you do this.
If you are using wifi to access the Internet, and the phone and PC both have wifi (in order to use wifi sharing), why not just access the wifi directly from the PC? Sorry to be thick, but I don't see why you would want this?
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OK, I have been resisting, but why would you do this.
If you are using wifi to access the Internet, and the phone and PC both have wifi (in order to use wifi sharing), why not just access the wifi directly from the PC? Sorry to be thick, but I don't see why you would want this?
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and if you don't have WiFi access to the Internet but only cellular access?
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edward-riko
I tried the steps to the letter however, I am unable to connect. I tried on one device running Schaps 3.54c & the other vp3G. I get confused after I complete the step "select wireless tab then add new." The new wireless network shows unavailable on my device" I think I'm unsure how to configure the connection on the PC side. I'm unable to get the wireless configurator to allow me to input a specific IP address. I'm using Windows XP Pro. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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play with this some more it will work in the end
do it systematically
edward
edward-riko said:
and if you don't have WiFi access to the Internet but only cellular access?
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Hah! I knew I must have been missing something. Thanks.
WiFi & WM5?
Does this work on WM5? The instructions don't seem to match for me. Can someone tell me how to do this on WM5?
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Does this work on WM5? The instructions don't seem to match for me. Can someone tell me how to do this on WM5?
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no it will not
THANK YOU
I have tried this out and it apprears to work pretty well- thank you so much, I had hoped this would be figured out. i had the idea to do this but not the technical know how.
This is awesome
but you know what would be also interesting?
to be able to share the wifi connection over Bluetooth or usb instead of the cellular.
Basically using the phone as a wifi adapter.
What say you?
titan 6800
Has any one gotten this to work with the 6800? The registry key for bluetooth is different.
Thanks
Garvin.
edward-riko said:
Do the following:
1) Open Settings->Internet Sharing. Enable IS for Bluetooth PAN.
2) Change HKLM\Comm\ConnectionSharing\PrivateInterface to "TIACXWLN1" (it should currently be "BTPAN1").
3) Open Settings-> Connections -> Wi-Fi. Select Network Adapters tab. Click IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi.
4) Enter IP address 192.168.1.1 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Click OK.
5) Select Wireless tab. Add New.. to add the Network name for your ad-hoc network (I prefer "adhoc"
6) Set the client computer to use the same ad-hoc network. Client will receive an IP address from the device (don't need to manually set the IP).
I got this from a different website.
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Actually, it came from this site - we've been discussing it for days in the Development and Hacking forum! It was in this post by Fluxist who'd discovered it in the first place, and the other sites have been following suit... we're working on a more elegant way to do it now. And you directly quoted his post!
I'm going to be trying to write a full-on NAT router for it I think, although we're seeing if we can do a basic version for now.
man, i cannot belive this..
that is amazing
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Actually, it came from this site - we've been discussing it for days in the Development and Hacking forum! It was in this post by Fluxist who'd discovered it in the first place, and the other sites have been following suit... we're working on a more elegant way to do it now. And you directly quoted his post!
I'm going to be trying to write a full-on NAT router for it I think, although we're seeing if we can do a basic version for now.
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i took it from PPCGeeks forum
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9340
sorry if i a fended you in any way and good luck with your work
edward
killershot20 said:
This is awesome
but you know what would be also interesting?
to be able to share the wifi connection over Bluetooth or usb instead of the cellular.
Basically using the phone as a wifi adapter.
What say you?
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I was thinking the same thing. I frequently stay in foreign hotels in which are "unwired." I'd love to use my phone as the registered device when buying wifi so that I could make VOIP calls and check my e-mails on ground and tether it to my notebook back in the roam. In Dubai, you can get hooked for $30 a day for wifi.
edward-riko said:
i took it from PPCGeeks forum
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9340
sorry if i a fended you in any way and good luck with your work
edward
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Heh, it's cool dude - PPCGeeks got it from us - but check your research ;-) No point having duplicate threads.
Hi!
I was able to do Remote Desktop by connecting with my tilt 2 to my local Network so I used my Desktops address (192.168.1.4) as computer name and I was able to connect with the Tilt2.
Now, I am trying to figure out how to do the same but when I am not home thus connected to my network.
I tried using my REAL IP address but it was not able to connect to it.
I am running Windows 7 Ultimate any my tilt 2 has a stock 6.5
Thanks
You'll need to set up port forwarding on your router. Looks like this site has a bunch of guides to do so. You need to set it up to forward port 3389 to your desktop address (looks like 192.168.1.4) and you should be good to go, no specific config necessary on your tp2.
Edit: As a side note for security's sake only allow non-administrator accounts to remotely connect and make sure you use strong passwords!
That worked out great...thanks mate!
Yeah thanks Toleraen! I was just now finally getting around to check out the remote desktop client on both my phones, and was looking for exactly that
Glad I could help
Pretty cool to do this indeed...any other software you consider better than this to remote in to my PC?
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Pretty cool to do this indeed...any other software you consider better than this to remote in to my PC?
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I hear VNC get recommended a lot, but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet (I'll do that once I've tried remote desktop). I've attached the cab for it, but I can't find any threads on it's use, you'll have to dig that up yourself
I must have tried a million different settings over several hours and never was able to connect via 3G or even locally when hooked in through wifi. I used to be able to do this with my Treo 750 with little hassle. I have the port forwarding set up on my Linksys WCG200 router. I have even tried turning all firewalls and encryption off. No joy. Anyone else have a Windows XP setup with a Linksys router that has had success with a Tilt 2 stock ROM? Note: I do not have a static IP. Has anyone successfully done this with a dynamic IP?
I am doing it to Windows 7 with a dynamic IP...I just make sure I got the one for the day(week) before living home if I want to remote in from work.
I use Hamachi to create a VPN connection and then remote into my PC that way, leave hamachi running on my desktop and then just run the mobile version on my phone when I want to remote in, that way there are no open port security issues to worry about and the VPN IP address never changes.
Is it any slower or faster than Remote Desktop?
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I use Hamachi to create a VPN connection and then remote into my PC that way, leave hamachi running on my desktop and then just run the mobile version on my phone when I want to remote in, that way there are no open port security issues to worry about and the VPN IP address never changes.
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Sweet! I had no idea hamachi had a mobile client now!!
I'm trying it out as soon as I get home today!
I use "Remote Touch Server" to remotely access my computer. The main reason i use it is because it keeps your computer on while you are accessing it. I use it for a handheld monitor for powerpoint presentations. That way I can see what the computer is doing, and tap the screen to advance to the next slide
Hi everyone!
I'm having kind of a special problem.
I'm an electro acoustic musician and finds the Desire a lot of fun.
My new project is to use its accelerometer etc and for that I need to connect it to my Mac running OSX 10.6.5.
The issue I'm having is that my network (campus ish) won't allow me to open any ports. I don't think it's a good idea to hack it, so my next idea is to create a network between my Mac and my Desire. This network won't have access to the internet.
It also has to be via Wifi since the app I'm using only allows communication through wifi and my java skills aren't good enough to edit the apk.
I therefore run Oxygen 1.0 (GREAT rom btw) which is supposed to accept ad-hoc, and my computers own network does show up when i browse it in my phone.
The problem is that it dosn't connect since it isn't given an ip. I imagine there has to be a solution to this and I'm just not seeing it. I'm also thinking it could be an OSX issue and not really a question for this forum, but I'm pretty sure it should be possible to just make the phone not requesting an internet ip.
I've tried to set a static IP but this won't work ether.
Does anyone have a clue on how to do? I'm quite desperate really. Been searching for a solution online for quite some time and I haven't found the right one. Probably because most people using ad-hoc want it's phone to connect to the internet and therefore not having my kind of trouble. Unfortunately I have no way of connecting my computer to the router with wire since the router is about 400 meters away. Once of corse, but i really need a wireless solution in the long run.
Thanks!
Christopher