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4 GB MicroSD, does it exist? does it work?

I've done a lot of searches, but I haven't found any thread that solves my doubts...
I have a 2 GB Sandisk MicroSD in my HTC P3300 and it works perfectly (in fact I never suffered the corruption bug), but this is very few storage for me so I need a 4 GB memory card. My questions are:
1st - Does it exist any 4 GB MicroSD (not MicroSDHC)? I've readen some posts talking about them and I've seen some links in eBay shops, but nobody has confirmed if they are fakes. Anybody could tell me if 4 GB MicroSD exist and where to buy them?
2nd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSD, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
3rd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSDHC, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
I've opened a poll to know more clearly if I have the possibility to upgrade my storage card or I'll have to bear with that poor 2 GB Sandisk... Please, vote and write a post telling which brand/model of Artemis and MicroSD/MicroSDHC do you have and what operating system and ROM version do you use
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you haven't suffered to understand this message
Thanks

Nobody has tested a 4 GB MicroSD/MicroSDHC in his Artemis? I cannot believe it!
Regards

Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.

JanetPanic said:
Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.
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Thank you for your answer
The thread you were talking about is this one. In one of the last posts a person says that he/she has tested a 4 GB Sandisk MicroSD in the Artemis with negative results, but doesn't specify if it's a High Capacity MicroSD (MicroSDHC) and in which OS the test was done
I would like to know more opinions and to see votes from people who has tested also a 4 GB MicroSD (HC or non-HC), I'm sure that there are more users who has experience with this kind of memory cards and we all would have a more clear idea if they tell us the detailed results
Regards

Well if you or someone can point out a couple 4 GB cards that are available in the U.S. online I will buy up to 3 to test just to try and bring some closure to the question.
The only 4GB micro SD card I could find was out of stock (J&R music). Based on a little searching it seems to perpetually be out of stock. I added myself to get an alert should it come in however.

I have done a bit of research and I am pretty sure the P3300 will not work with a 4GB card, but I am willing to try.
It is not the traces or the pinout on the card as many have surmised that is the problem though. The SDHC uses FAT32 whereas SD uses FAT16. So unless the system has the capability of reading FAT32 the question of circuitry is moot. Everything I have read points to 2GB being the limit for non SDHC and that the P3300 does not support it.
Another common misconception seems to be that there are non SDHC 4GB micro sd cards. I see no evidence that this is the case. Furthering the improbability is the fact that the Fat16 has an upper limit of a 2GB partition. (There is an exception to this where the FAT16 uses 64K clusters, but this is unlikely to be done or work in ANYTHING without custom drivers. I never even heard of this till I did this research.)
None the less I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I've read a thread somewhere in this forum where a senior member (or was it a mod?) had drivers to make the artemis sdhc capable which usually is not possible if the hardware is not built for that. Search for it and maybe you'll find it.

I have read most of those threads and none are conclusive.
You also can not do anything with drivers if the hardware is not already compatible. There is not any question that the p3300 does not officially support microsdhc.
The debate rages and a thread like this keeps coming up.

From what I've read so far, the only thing required is a SDHC driver. There should not be problem on the hardware side.
Some say the WM6 ROMs have SDHC driver. My Wizard has WM6 and the driver on it looks different, but I don't have a SDHC miniSD to verify. Ultimately, to prove it works on Artemis, I need a 4Gb SDHC microSD so I can try the stock drivers and may be copy the drivers from my Wizard.

SanDisk 4GB microSD-HC DID NOT WORK on MDA compact III
Hello,
I`ve an MDA compact III which was delivered with WM5 OS. I`ve an 2GB microSD - Card from Sandisk, working perfectly. A little bit small that thing for my big fingers... =
Now I was searching for higher capacitys of microSD - Cards and found an SanDisk microSD-HC with a capacity on 4 GB. Bought for app. 60€ and testet on my device: NOTHING. No work. The WM5 OS did`t recognise the Crad. The card is`t shown inside the System. It seems like NO card inside the device. The card is OK. There was a little USB reader in the package, where I can access to the card.
OK, maybe it is the WM5 OS and I decided to upgrade to WM6. (German O² OS using the UPL method...) The upgrade was done in 10 Minutes, but the card works NOT! The same reaction like on WM5.
Now I`m wayting for an patched OS with (maybe) an SD-HC driver inside. Let`s pray...
Best regards, Sven

The Artemis is not able to read/write microSDHC Cards. The Interface of the Artemis permits only FAT16, microSDHC works only with FAT32. Artemis cannot recognise it. Normal microSD with 4 GB if should be at least recognised.

JanetPanic: Before opening this thread I had done many searches to get information about SDHC, and I know that SDHC compatibility is a hardware problem rather than a software/drivers problem. However, I hoped that our HTC Artemis had a SDHC compatible slot, looking at HTC Trinity's example... By the way, before the Artemis I had a Dell X51v with a 4 GB SD (non-HC) that worked like a charm; I expect that in a -near- future there'll be 4 GB MicroSD cards
lSSBl: Very interesting your MicroSDHC "review", althought you have ruined most of my hopes. Let's pray that future WM6 official ROMs will give the Artemis the ability to read MicroSDHC cards
AlfredENeumann: I tell you the same as JanetPanic, the HTC doesn't have officially a HC compatible slot and however it supports that kind of memory cards. Let's pray...
Regards

@AlfredENeumann
You're wrong. The Artemis accepts FAT32 as well as FAT16 SD cards, no matter if WM5 or WM6. But that has nothing to do with SDHC, what till now doesn't work with the generic WM6 drivers.
perhaps a solution: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6308.html

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

That means, that the SDHC card is NOT backward compatible - you can't format it with FAT16, but you can format any 'normal' (micro) sd- card with FAT32, and it still works at the artemis. Tested by me, and a lot of other guys.

Has anybody Tried the SDHC driver from the HTC Trinity yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556

4 gb micro dilemma
Hey guys... see if you can help me out.
Installed the 4gb micro sd on my HTC Artemis and the SDHC driver from the previous post... windows mobile 5 doesn't recognize the card.
Not sure what to try, open to any suggestions.
c.

crap
Actually, after I've tried the 4gb Micro and installed the Trinity driver.. NONE of my storage cards are recognizable now. So I removed the driver.. and STILL none of my storage cards are recognized. BUSTED?!? Not sure how to fix this?
c

SanDisk have just announced an 8GB micro SDHC.... time we got these SDHC cards working in our devices! Anyone have any input on how we can find out if this is possible?

Sandisk 4gb SDHC no go
Hi all, just to let you know I tried all the WM6 rom's on these forums (thanks to all), reformated my sandisk 4gb microsd card fat 16/32 but no go..
(my 2gb sandisk card works fine with fat16/32), even tried trinity driver no go.
Hopefully the new WM6 rom from HTC this week will support it.

Dell Axim WM6.x x50v, x51v, x50, x51 SDHC and other cards Support

Update: this thread might still be usable, so post here any info for other Axim roms x50v, x51v, x50, x51
just post the device and rom version first then the SD/SDHC/CF/CF II/SDIO card info and SDXC.....i wish..lol
For people that need a background of what are SDHC cards and Other SD cards Go here http://www.sdcard.org but by now everyone should know what they are, thats how old this thread is, but now the question is what is a SDXC card
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Dell Axim x50v WM6 Rom (MagLite Edition) SDHC Support And other non sd cards and sd or CF card adapters to other cards
Also you can post about SDIO cards
Post what cards have you tried.
Card size (2gb,4gb,etc)
Card type (SDHC,Mini SDHC)
Speed Class (2,4,6)
Brand (if any)
Thanks

i have yet to find any card that doesnt work in this device
sdhc:
8 gb ocz class 6
8 gb patriot class 6
4 gb sandisk class 2
non-sdhc:
4 gb ocz 150x
4 gb transcend 150x
2 gb kingston
1 gb toshiba

I'm tested Transcend SDHC 8 GB class 6

4GB Sandisk SDHC Class 2
Seagate 4GB Microdrive

4gb vgen SD, high speed

Sorry for my lame question?
I thought SDHC compatibility is a hardware related isuue, but from what I see here, does it mean that new SHDC cards will work with X50V WM06?

Transcend 4GB SDHC Class 6 appears to work in my x50v w/ Maglite's WM6 A02 RTM 0-PP. After a fresh format in a PC card reader, it shows size as only 165.5M on Total Comander's (Beta 3) Properties/General tab, but 3827.0M free on Properties/DiskSpace tab. Start/Settings/System/Memory/StoragCard shows 3827.01MB Total Storage, so I should be in good shape. After I load apps, I'll load it with large files to make sure.
Chas
p.s.: full capacity is usable.

fbifbi said:
Sorry for my lame question?
I thought SDHC compatibility is a hardware related isuue, but from what I see here, does it mean that new SHDC cards will work with X50V WM06?
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Sorry for my late response but as far as i know SDHC cards work on the x50v but i do not know how MagLite got them to work but i have heard that new wm6 rom ver.s have the SDHC drivers. I also have seen the palm treo 650 (someone correct me if wrong) using the treo 700 driver update for SDHC cards.
i think that the support for these cards is software not hardware because the cards are the same nothing has changed but if it was a hardware problem then the cards should not even fit in regular sd slots. its like when mms card devises could not use sd cards but then and now we have devises that use both sd and mmc. both are the same(has differences but mostly the same) but now its just SD and SDHC
We just need to port drivers to other devises

8Gb SDHC Class 2 Transcend
This card recognized by Treo650 which updated SDHC driver taken from Treo680. But only CardExport can recognized as 8Gb card. Internal explorer and others only read it as 4Gb card but they can use all 8Gb capacity.

Globalsat gps cf card works

CF Transcend 4GB & SDHC Transcend 8GB Class6
My test :
- CF Transcend 4GB 266x (SLC Chip) --> works flawlessly
- SDHC Transcend 8GB Class 6 ---> also works fine.
- SD Transcend 150x 4GB also works fine.

Dell Axim x50v WM6 Rom (MagLite Edition) SDHC Support And other non sd cards and sd or CF card adapters to other cards
4GB SD A-Data MyFlash 150x Turbo
8GB SDHC Class 6 A-Data Turbo
16GB SDHC Class 6 A-Data Turbo
16GB CF Transcend 133x
8GB CF Seagate Microdrive
All tested working with FAT32 in Maglite A03 Beta 1.

A 6gb hitachi microdrive for ipod mini not working

Greenhouse 16 GB SDHC, class 6 -- NO PROBLEMS
Works just fine in X50V running WM6 Maglite A02 RTM ROM with 0 MB page pool.
Couldn't find anything that said more than 8GB would work in X50V, but I got this for my camcorder, filled it with 12 GB of stuff just to test capacity, and stuck it in the Ax. I've been accessing some dictionary files on it dozens of times a day and frequently saving text and audio memos and screenshots for the last few weeks--not a hint of a problem.
A02 with O MB page pool, by the way, seems to be the sweet spot so far. Fast and super stable, and so far the only thing wrong is the width of the window for the Mic control panel (who cares?). Wireless doesn't work well in the A03 beta, and in any of these ROMS anything other than 0MB page pool seems to lead to frequent frustrating slowdowns.
Oh, yeah--no problems with
Regular SD
Team Group 150X 2 GB
Photo Fast 150X 2 GB and 4 GB
Adata 150X 2 GB and 4 GB
CF
Transcend 16 GB and 32 GB 133X and 333X
Fujitek 8 GB and 16 GB 130X, 16 GB and 32 GB 266X (though one of the 8 GB cards died on its own)

post with any other rom info here, but still just for axim please

Sorry but Bump, this is still good, and the axim was made by HTC

I have a Axim x51v and I tested with:
SD cards
- A-Data SDHC card 4GB class 6 - works fine!
- A-Data micro-SDHC (with adapter) 8GB class 6 - works fine!
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32Gb SDHC and 32Gb CF Cards
I am currently running a 32 Gb SDHC card, and a 32Gb CF card, both manufactured by Kingston, on my Axim X51v, currently running LennySH's A07 Beta 3 ROM of WindowsMobile 6.1. Does anyone know if the X51v will run the 48Gb and 64Gb SDXC cards?

Unit ZER0 said:
I am currently running a 32 Gb SDHC card, and a 32Gb CF card, both manufactured by Kingston, on my Axim X51v, currently running LennySH's A07 Beta 3 ROM of WindowsMobile 6.1. Does anyone know if the X51v will run the 48Gb and 64Gb SDXC cards?
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Sorry for late response i dont get updates from this thread anymore
As far as going past 32gb it might work but probably with write issues
Have there been updates to the sd driver, i have not updated my device since beta 1 and have not kept up with updates

IT WORKS!!!!! 64 GB SDXC on Axim X51v running WM6.1
I just purchased a 64GB SDXC Card off Amazon.com, manufactured by Transcend, and fitted it into an SDHC CF adapter, and It WORKS! True, it comes formatted using the exFAT file system, and you need to insert it into a USB adapter, connect it to your computer, then use the "HP USB Disk Formatting Tool" to reformat it to FAT32, but after that little exercise, it works Perfectly. My device is, as always, a Dell Axim X51v, running WM6.1 LennySH's A07 Beta 3 version. My guess as to why this is, is that an SDXC card is basically just an SDHC card formatted with the exFAT file system. If you reformat it to FAT32, it will work on all manner of devices with no issues.

4GB MicroSD

Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?

No... for more info, this question has been well covered in this forum, try out the search feature -- it works well.
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Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?
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edmondt said:
Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?
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It cannot support a 4GB MicroSD card because all 4GB+ are SDHC. The S620/S621 can only read up to 2GB. A phone like the HTC Touch is able to support 4GB+ SDHC memory.

But there are others who says that it works on their device running WM6.... Can anyone confirm that?

What 'others'...? Can you confirm that with a link to a particular post?
edmondt said:
But there are others who says that it works on their device running WM6.... Can anyone confirm that?
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chaznet said:
What 'others'...? Can you confirm that with a link to a particular post?
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Okay, I am not sure which source you are referring to BUT there was one thread where somebody found a key in the registry that was named "SDHC" which started a speculation that the Dash could of supported SDHC cards. However, it has been confirmed that SDHC in that registry meant "Secure Digital Host Controller" which is used for the STANDARD MICROSD reader.
http://www.jamerican.net/?p=9
Trust Me! If the Dash supported SDHC MicroSD cards, there would definitely be a HUGE THREAD about it.

Hello, I have a french s620 upgraded with french ROM WM6. And now with WM6 the S620 accept microSDHC.
My Sandisk microSDHC 4 GB works fine. It works fine too in my Kaiser
I m waiting for my 6 GB and test in the s620 when I receive the card.
Sorry for my bad english ...

Hmmm... same hardware here, same OS, just tried it -- my device doesn't see it. Just one of life's many mysteries I guess
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Hello, I have a french s620 upgraded with french ROM WM6. And now with WM6 the S620 accept microSDHC.
My Sandisk microSDHC 4 GB works fine. It works fine too in my Kaiser
I m waiting for my 6 GB and test in the s620 when I receive the card.
Sorry for my bad english ...
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It does work...For some models I guess:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333753

SDHC on HTC 620
Well I can confirm that the 6GB SDHC card from Sandisk works brilliantly. No problems. You just have to be sure you have Windows Mobile 6.0 installed on your phone and you are good to go!

4gb works fine!
My s620 runs a 4gb SDHC frim Sandisk. it works perfect! I´ve installed WM6 on my s620. Merry Christmas!

Looks like Chaz got pwned
J/P... but looks like it may very well work

will the 6gb and 8gb micro sdhc cards work as well?

An 8GB micro SDHC card works as well !

8 GB SDHC works VERY WELL !!!

... on my MDA III compact with:
- WM 6 (official HTC Release: HTC_P3300_GER_3.13.407.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship_R.exe)
- SDHC Patch
I bought a 8 GB SDHC SanDisk and it works fine!
Costs: 78,50 € inkl. Shipping (inside Germany)
I ordered Tuesday and get the Card Thursday
Greetz
Snake

I too have bought a Sandisk MicroSD SDHC 8GB card which finally arrived from eBay seller nextdaymemory today. I installed the SDHC patch recommended by StefChri in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1720617#post1720617
Works perfectly!

Where did you get it?
Hi Snake28,
where did you get the card?
Valen

Works with Artemis Touch 3.01, 5.2.1921 SDHC
It works with the mentioned rom. Although I had some problems with recognizing in the beginning, I flashed the rom again and I worked immediately.
Brought it from memoryshop.nl (Dutch)
http://www.memoryshop.nl/geheugen/425/microsd-(secure-digital).html (Now, the card is temporarily out-of-stock)
My costs were: €86,00 all-incl. (send within the Netherlands)
Brought it the 6th of [email protected], got it the next [email protected]

@ Valen42:
I edited my Post, because I don't know about Direct Links ..
Please Google @ KQ Flash and you will find it immediately!
Greetz
SNAKE

I also bought 8GB SDCH for my artemis running wwe 3.1 including bepes sdhc hack. anyhow its quite slow, sdtools showed me like 300 kb writing and 700 kb reading spead. Sandisk tells class 4 cards run about 4-5 mb read/write.
Anyone any idea, what could be my problem? I wondered wheather the card is fat 32 formatted, how do I find out?

I have the same problem. Writing to the MicroSD via the O2 XDA Orbit (Artemis) is very slow. I have tried putting the card in the small Sandisk adapter which the card came with and it is also slow. BUT when I use a different MicroSD card reader/writer (USB2.0) it works much faster (140 MB file writes and reads in 10-12 seconds). The reader is one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRANSFLASH-MI...ryZ51082QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
So it seems to be a hardware problem.

4GB kinsgton work flawlessly also.

One other thought ... have you got the "encryption" enabled for data transferred to storage cards? I think this slows the data transfer even more through the Artemis. It is still slow though, as the data connection between my Artemis and my computer is still only a maximum of 10 Mbit/s (i.e. c. 1.25 Mbyte/sec max).

In my post at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350383
you`ll find a Benchmark I did with an "old" 2GB MicroSD and an 8GB Micro SDHC Card.
Surprisingly the Performance of the 8GB Card was much better then I expected with the SDHC-Drivers provided by this Community.
When I reformated the 2GB Card to FAT32 to work with the new SDHC Drivers Speed went down significantly. But the provided .pdf File shows all this Data quite well....
Regards
Jabami

lol i'm going to buy one to but they aren't in stock have to wait

Can anyone explain the different classes of card available (class, class6). Is there a particular one needed for the orbit/artemis.
Also - I note that you can get 16gb cards. Anyone tried one yet??

My Orbit worked first time with an 8GB Scandisk bought via EBay.
Down loaded and ran this .cab file as suggested earlier:
http://members.cable24.at/immogroup/...HC-Artemis.cab
Running WM6. No need to re-format.

The complete link is:
http://members.cable24.at/immogroup/HTC-P3300/SDHC-Artemis.cab

HEYWOOD said:
Can anyone explain the different classes of card available (class, class6). Is there a particular one needed for the orbit/artemis.
Also - I note that you can get 16gb cards. Anyone tried one yet??
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12 GB will be available in February and 16 GB in June or July. The class indicates the minimum writing speed, so with class 2 you will be able to write data to your card with at least 2 MB/sec. I don't think your pda will be able to write more than 2 MB/sec. but you can try it out.

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12 GB will be available in February and 16 GB in June or July. The class indicates the minimum writing speed, so with class 2 you will be able to write data to your card with at least 2 MB/sec. I don't think your pda will be able to write more than 2 MB/sec. but you can try it out.
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Thanks for the explanation.
16GB cards are available on ebay - I know it has its risks, but they are there

i orderd mine today should ship in tomorrow so i will let you guys know my findings

It Works :d:d:d:d

will 8 gb work with wm5? if so anythign i need to install? cab etc?
if not whats the maximum size i can safely install?

got windows mobile 6.1(latest black ver.), didn't try others
8gb sdhc class 4 works fluently!

็ำHermes supports 8G micro SD card?

Hi,Does anyone know if 838 pro supports 8G micro SD card? Thanks

yes
i have spv m3100 with vp3g 3.62.3 5.2.1622 build 18128
radio 1.54 sandisk 8GB and it is working very good

There's a load of other threads on this if you search. Answer is yes.
WB

Thank you very much . Micro sd 2 g nearly full .I have to get one

btw_: it supports up to 32gb if needed (sdhc standards...)

woah 32GB?!??!
when that becomes economical, i'll buy one and start using my hermes as a portable hard drive...if only bit torrent worked on a hermes....*grin*

It does...
http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/14/winmobile-torrent-bittorrent-client-for-pocketpc/
WinMobile Torrent's been around for ages. I'm sure there's other clients, too.

Sign up for Skyfire Beta
Currently, our private beta is only for users with Windows Mobile 5 and 6 phones, with a U.S. phone number. We will soon be expanding our beta to international users and other Smartphones.
hmmmmm.... nice....

Hi everyone, for my first post I'd like to rreport that my 8g sandisk sdhc micro sd card is working perfectly. I'd advise anyone to go for the sandisks rather than a cheap ebay knock off!

Yes...but only with some 6.0 roms and all 6.1 roms. That roms adds driver for SDHC

why does my 4gb and 8gb SDHC cards always kill themselves, but my 2gb mini SD is fine?
I'm using a 4gb SDHC san Disk
and a 8gb kingstong.
and a 2gb adata.
Thank you!

Do a search for "sdhc wm5 patch". Download, unrar and run the cab file. Make sure it installs on the Hermes, NOT the SD card...
Cheers...

my lil bro is using Wm6.1 blinky's rom.
does that patch just allow SDHC? or does it fix my problem?
because i can see the card.
thanks

I'm using this rom from vp3G's wm6 v362 AT&T rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
on my herms 300 using 8525 housing and it read my sandisk micro sdhc 8g and working fine

Could just be the Hermes doesn't like them, especially if they work in an sd card reader. I have had bad cards before but the pc also couldn't read it.
I use a sandisk 8Gb card and have had no probs... My advice, go with works for everyone else, it may cost a little more but it saves on the headaches....
Cheers...

thanks
It works in a the SD card reader and i can use them fine in my camera. it never messes up in the camera.
thers no point in me buying a 8gb sandisk if my 4gb sandisk won't work either.
about that WM5 SD HC patch. is that for WM5 phones only? should i install it on my WM 6.1?
Thanks

Your wm6.1 rom should already be sdhc compliant, but yes, it should work fine on wm6( theres a wm6 varient). It was only WM5 and a few WM6 versions that weren't.
Are you sure its an ORIGINAL sandisk as I've had a few fakes that died horribly on me too.
Cheers...

I doubt new egg sells fakes...
But thanks.

Thank for answer I want to know it

i use in my hermes my older sdhc 8 gb by sandisk and all right