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[Q] Storage card for Atom

What is the maximium size of Mini SD card that Atom O2 can
handle? 1 MB, 2 MB or bigger than this ? :shock: :shock: :shock:

ha, i wanted to post that exact question myself..
anyway, i guess you meant 1GB, 2GB and not MB..
so does any1 knows? i want the 2GB...

p.s.
the same question for imate jam (for a friend of mine.. )

boim said:
ha, i wanted to post that exact question myself..
anyway, i guess you meant 1GB, 2GB and not MB..
so does any1 knows? i want the 2GB...
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Yeah..you're right...actually I mean 'GB' not 'MB'
sorry...

Storage card for Atom
I am using a 2GB Sandisk mini SD. Works fine

10x

I've got the 2GB Topram mini sd....seems ok data to took 9 secs to copy a 27mb file 3mb a sec is that good??

i thought they are 'unlimited'...no?

2 GB topram and 2gb stargem RAM both 150x speed work fine
2 GB topram and 2gb stargem RAM both 150x speed work fine. Not at the indicated speeds to ok.
Both ordered on ebay directly from Taiwan, they arrived speedely as indicated on the ebay and in good condition.

I'm oso using 2GB, works ok. BTW how do i know the speed for my 2GB card? wat does the 150x means from you guys?

4gb must be handled. more cappasites may not work.
8gb card can be seen 4, 5 or some least from 8gb.
16gb mini sd card not produced even.

just joined this forum - looking to buy an atom ar an exec. the memory cards that i read about are now in a new format called SDHC. Thus the 4 Gb is only available in miniSDHC. Is o2 compatible with this format and has anyone used a 4GB card in the atom? this will be the deal breaker for me...

normally atom doesn't support SDHC. but you can fix it with a patch. maybe it can fix the storage limitation(8 gigabyte!)

i'm using a 4 gig topram mini-sd without any problems.
got it on ebay a while back and you can get it for like $35 shipped to the U.S. nowadays.
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??

slamming_sammy1 said:
i'm using a 4 gig topram mini-sd without any problems.
got it on ebay a while back and you can get it for like $35 shipped to the U.S. nowadays.
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??
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could u link me to where u bought that? wats the ebay seller name?

2 gb work fine with Xda Exec!!

Using Toshiba 4GB miniSDHC class 4 with SDHC driver for WM5, work really well.

vocian said:
normally atom doesn't support SDHC. but you can fix it with a patch. maybe it can fix the storage limitation(8 gigabyte!)
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may i know know to obtain the patch? Many thanks in advance.

latino_rex said:
may i know know to obtain the patch? Many thanks in advance.
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you can find it almost everywhere. use the search function, I got mine at the hacking and dev section.

slamming_sammy1 said:
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??
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My WM6 Atom Exec has the 8GB Sandisk MicroSDHC card. However, it has the same problem as some of the Sandisk cards -- not reading the card intermittently.

Hi speed Micro SD card?

Hi there,
Bro has just picked up an Xda Orbit and I wanted to know if there are any high speed Micro SD cards at 1GB or 2GB available?
Since my Xda2i days, I've been impressed with the Transcend range but they dont seem to do any hi speed micro sd cards - or at least I can't see them listed !
I'm open to other's Sandisk etc but I'd like them to be hi speed cards
Can anyone point me to sites which have them please?!
Cheers!
Dennis! West London UK!

http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/1GB/ULTRA/II/Micro/SD
Right hand side 2gb £49.99 +postage, I bought one just before Christmas all cool.
But note the thread on MicroSD issues on the Artemis/Orbit in other thread - issues with the PDA not SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511

i can only recommend the card mentioned by ricardoC above. have been using it for about twelve weeks now and had no issue with it at all. you should keep in mind though, that afaik,the speed of a card INSIDE a ppc device is purely dependant on the speed of the device. therefore the stated read and write speeds not applicable. nevertheless i FIND the card to perform faster in my hero in comparison to sd cards inside my mdac one.
greetz
got mine here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270057565199

SanDisk memory products have never given me any problems, plus there is 5 year warranty here in Switzerland.

I used a "standard" SD in my old BlueAngel and when I changed it for an UltraII Sandisk SD TomTom map access/scrolling was a LOT faster. Its true the card is only as fast as the interface but you want to get the max out of it so fastest card you can get is best.

RicardoC said:
Its true the card is only as fast as the interface but you want to get the max out of it so fastest card you can get is best.
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It might be true on a Blue Angel but the standard SanDisk SD card is more than fast enough for the Magicians SD interface so buying an Ultra version is just a waste of money.

Disregard my reply, I thought I was still in the Magician forum.
It might be true for the Artemis though.

...indeed...

high speed micro sd card - update
Hiya
I ordered a 1GB Sandisk Ultra 2 card for my bro's orbit and hopefully it'll work without hiccups and possible corruptions!
My bro's Orbit will be my little test unit and if all is well, I'll get one too ! and the same micro SD card of course!
thanks for the pointers
Cheers, Dennis! West London UK!

Depending on what you want it for note that TomTom's single map of western europe is 900mb - so it will nearly fill a 1gb card, just thought I would mention it.

I use transcend never have any problem with P800w or Artemis
i'm using this brand since Dopod 818Pro or XDA NEO

Maximum Size Of a MicroSD (XDA Orbit)

Hello! I called the customer service of O2 today. It says that a storage-card (MicroSD) for the XDA Orbit cannot bei bigger than 512 MB. I cannot believe that but is this correct? Does anybody know the maximum size for a storage card?

Not true - my Orbit runs fine with a 1Gb card, as does my MDAC3.

I am happily running a 2Gb card in my Orbit

Where's the limit?
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?

SunDrop said:
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?
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Hi,
I'm not as experienced as some others on this forum... I'm sure they'll correct my info
I spent a day or so seraching for info before I got my card, and FWI here are my notes:
2GB fine.
4Gb may be problematic.
Thickness of SD card may be a problem. The latch/Phone card has to be correctly clicked into place around the card.
Some makes of card seem better. Sandisk HIGH SPEED seem to be good.
I've got a 2Gb version and it's ok, but read others experiences in the forums.
I got both Lexar and CNex tools to check formatting could be done with full control and also to provide recovery possibility.
Hope that may help.

damned micro sd card
please can someone help?
i have a 1gb sandisk micro card which is being reported by my orbit as 512mb(minus FAT). i put it into my computer and it is clearly 1gb. i have tried putting more onto the card via the orbit, and it says "no more space", but it is fine via the pc. what's going on?!?
thanks in advance,
Tom

Maybe you should try WM5Storage and format SD card on PC. There is detailed instruction how to do it on forum.

afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm

I sell 2gb micro sd for the orbit on a daily basis and had no problems with them, I even use one myself.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/In-Shops-XDA-Accessories

Ice_mephi said:
afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm
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not true i have one and its working!

Mobile 2007 .... what make and how I was under the impression 4GB were not compatible?

I'm currently using a 2GB Sandisk microSD card and it is perfectly working.
Regarding 4GB microSD cards, they are called microSDHC (High Capacity) and as far as I know, the Artemis is not able to read from of write to them.

That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?

I've got a 1gig with all sorts on it. I think 2gig is the biggest at the moment.

Stephen.Gazard said:
That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?
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it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.

mobile2007 said:
it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.
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If what you say is true, you'd have made my day

4 GB MicroSD, does it exist? does it work?

I've done a lot of searches, but I haven't found any thread that solves my doubts...
I have a 2 GB Sandisk MicroSD in my HTC P3300 and it works perfectly (in fact I never suffered the corruption bug), but this is very few storage for me so I need a 4 GB memory card. My questions are:
1st - Does it exist any 4 GB MicroSD (not MicroSDHC)? I've readen some posts talking about them and I've seen some links in eBay shops, but nobody has confirmed if they are fakes. Anybody could tell me if 4 GB MicroSD exist and where to buy them?
2nd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSD, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
3rd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSDHC, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
I've opened a poll to know more clearly if I have the possibility to upgrade my storage card or I'll have to bear with that poor 2 GB Sandisk... Please, vote and write a post telling which brand/model of Artemis and MicroSD/MicroSDHC do you have and what operating system and ROM version do you use
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you haven't suffered to understand this message
Thanks

Nobody has tested a 4 GB MicroSD/MicroSDHC in his Artemis? I cannot believe it!
Regards

Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.

JanetPanic said:
Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.
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Thank you for your answer
The thread you were talking about is this one. In one of the last posts a person says that he/she has tested a 4 GB Sandisk MicroSD in the Artemis with negative results, but doesn't specify if it's a High Capacity MicroSD (MicroSDHC) and in which OS the test was done
I would like to know more opinions and to see votes from people who has tested also a 4 GB MicroSD (HC or non-HC), I'm sure that there are more users who has experience with this kind of memory cards and we all would have a more clear idea if they tell us the detailed results
Regards

Well if you or someone can point out a couple 4 GB cards that are available in the U.S. online I will buy up to 3 to test just to try and bring some closure to the question.
The only 4GB micro SD card I could find was out of stock (J&R music). Based on a little searching it seems to perpetually be out of stock. I added myself to get an alert should it come in however.

I have done a bit of research and I am pretty sure the P3300 will not work with a 4GB card, but I am willing to try.
It is not the traces or the pinout on the card as many have surmised that is the problem though. The SDHC uses FAT32 whereas SD uses FAT16. So unless the system has the capability of reading FAT32 the question of circuitry is moot. Everything I have read points to 2GB being the limit for non SDHC and that the P3300 does not support it.
Another common misconception seems to be that there are non SDHC 4GB micro sd cards. I see no evidence that this is the case. Furthering the improbability is the fact that the Fat16 has an upper limit of a 2GB partition. (There is an exception to this where the FAT16 uses 64K clusters, but this is unlikely to be done or work in ANYTHING without custom drivers. I never even heard of this till I did this research.)
None the less I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I've read a thread somewhere in this forum where a senior member (or was it a mod?) had drivers to make the artemis sdhc capable which usually is not possible if the hardware is not built for that. Search for it and maybe you'll find it.

I have read most of those threads and none are conclusive.
You also can not do anything with drivers if the hardware is not already compatible. There is not any question that the p3300 does not officially support microsdhc.
The debate rages and a thread like this keeps coming up.

From what I've read so far, the only thing required is a SDHC driver. There should not be problem on the hardware side.
Some say the WM6 ROMs have SDHC driver. My Wizard has WM6 and the driver on it looks different, but I don't have a SDHC miniSD to verify. Ultimately, to prove it works on Artemis, I need a 4Gb SDHC microSD so I can try the stock drivers and may be copy the drivers from my Wizard.

SanDisk 4GB microSD-HC DID NOT WORK on MDA compact III
Hello,
I`ve an MDA compact III which was delivered with WM5 OS. I`ve an 2GB microSD - Card from Sandisk, working perfectly. A little bit small that thing for my big fingers... =
Now I was searching for higher capacitys of microSD - Cards and found an SanDisk microSD-HC with a capacity on 4 GB. Bought for app. 60€ and testet on my device: NOTHING. No work. The WM5 OS did`t recognise the Crad. The card is`t shown inside the System. It seems like NO card inside the device. The card is OK. There was a little USB reader in the package, where I can access to the card.
OK, maybe it is the WM5 OS and I decided to upgrade to WM6. (German O² OS using the UPL method...) The upgrade was done in 10 Minutes, but the card works NOT! The same reaction like on WM5.
Now I`m wayting for an patched OS with (maybe) an SD-HC driver inside. Let`s pray...
Best regards, Sven

The Artemis is not able to read/write microSDHC Cards. The Interface of the Artemis permits only FAT16, microSDHC works only with FAT32. Artemis cannot recognise it. Normal microSD with 4 GB if should be at least recognised.

JanetPanic: Before opening this thread I had done many searches to get information about SDHC, and I know that SDHC compatibility is a hardware problem rather than a software/drivers problem. However, I hoped that our HTC Artemis had a SDHC compatible slot, looking at HTC Trinity's example... By the way, before the Artemis I had a Dell X51v with a 4 GB SD (non-HC) that worked like a charm; I expect that in a -near- future there'll be 4 GB MicroSD cards
lSSBl: Very interesting your MicroSDHC "review", althought you have ruined most of my hopes. Let's pray that future WM6 official ROMs will give the Artemis the ability to read MicroSDHC cards
AlfredENeumann: I tell you the same as JanetPanic, the HTC doesn't have officially a HC compatible slot and however it supports that kind of memory cards. Let's pray...
Regards

@AlfredENeumann
You're wrong. The Artemis accepts FAT32 as well as FAT16 SD cards, no matter if WM5 or WM6. But that has nothing to do with SDHC, what till now doesn't work with the generic WM6 drivers.
perhaps a solution: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6308.html

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

That means, that the SDHC card is NOT backward compatible - you can't format it with FAT16, but you can format any 'normal' (micro) sd- card with FAT32, and it still works at the artemis. Tested by me, and a lot of other guys.

Has anybody Tried the SDHC driver from the HTC Trinity yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556

4 gb micro dilemma
Hey guys... see if you can help me out.
Installed the 4gb micro sd on my HTC Artemis and the SDHC driver from the previous post... windows mobile 5 doesn't recognize the card.
Not sure what to try, open to any suggestions.
c.

crap
Actually, after I've tried the 4gb Micro and installed the Trinity driver.. NONE of my storage cards are recognizable now. So I removed the driver.. and STILL none of my storage cards are recognized. BUSTED?!? Not sure how to fix this?
c

SanDisk have just announced an 8GB micro SDHC.... time we got these SDHC cards working in our devices! Anyone have any input on how we can find out if this is possible?

Sandisk 4gb SDHC no go
Hi all, just to let you know I tried all the WM6 rom's on these forums (thanks to all), reformated my sandisk 4gb microsd card fat 16/32 but no go..
(my 2gb sandisk card works fine with fat16/32), even tried trinity driver no go.
Hopefully the new WM6 rom from HTC this week will support it.

Compatible MicroSD card manufacturers

Hello everyone, this is my first thread. I just flashed my Dash to Rick's V18 WM 6.1 rom. WOW!!! I am impressed! Thanks Rick and Kavana for your hard work! Alright now for the reason for my post: I can tell from past posts that WM 6.1 allows us to use SDHC microSD cards. And if I understand correctly 4, 6, and 8 GB are compatible. My question is what manufacturers are compatible? I have heard that not all manufacturers are compatible (at least this held true with WM 6). If anything what are some of you currently using on your Dash? Thanks!

I only use SanDisk cards. I have found them to be the most reliable in my devices.

Im using a 4gb kingston and it works fine. shop.kingston.com has some good deals. need to check daily. I paid 20 delivered for the 4gb and 11 delivered for the 2gb
4gb $26.95 $16.95 if you use google checkout for the first time at :
http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-4g...capacity-card-w-full/q/loc/101/206892289.html
2gb $8.99 shipped
http://www.supermediastore.com/pqi-2gb-micro-sd-microsd-transflash-memory-card.html

So I popped my 4GB A-Data microSD card in to my friends Dash and it wouldn't come up in the file explorer. I t works just fine in my Shadow. What is everyone using mst commonly in teir Dash? Does 2GB work best?

WWE 080408 support 8GB microSD?
I read in a forum that the new WWE 080408 support microSD 8GB. I haven't test it on yet. But, as soon as I probe that is true I'll let u know.

jmastera said:
So I popped my 4GB A-Data microSD card in to my friends Dash and it wouldn't come up in the file explorer. I t works just fine in my Shadow. What is everyone using mst commonly in teir Dash? Does 2GB work best?
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I know on a stock WM 6.0 Dash the max is 2 GB. On a Dash with a flashed rom, it will take 4 GB or greater.

A-data works 4gb sdhc
using 4gb sdhc class6; no problems. Their adapter to regular sd size has issues, had to use kingston adapter, other than that no problems.

I flashed to rickys v23 rom and my kingston 4gb started working so I said what the heck and took it back and exchanged it for an 8gb sandisk which works as well.

jmastera said:
So I popped my 4GB A-Data microSD card in to my friends Dash and it wouldn't come up in the file explorer. I t works just fine in my Shadow. What is everyone using mst commonly in teir Dash? Does 2GB work best?
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The stock T-Mobile ROM will not accept anything above 2GB if I remember correctly. You need an official HTC or new, cooked 6.1 ROM to use anything greater than 2GB.
I have a 4GB Scandisk card. It works perfectly fine with any the current 6.1 ROMs out there for the Dash/HTC S620. 8, 12, and 16 should work as well (up to 32GB I think).

I use a Transcend 4GB SDHC card with the HTC WM6 rom without any issues.

A-DATA
I have a 4GB A-DATA SDHC... wouldn't work on stock T-mobile ROM
after flashing to HTC's ROM, I got it working