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Hey everyone,
As you may all know, there’s a fairly large demand to put Android on the Omnia. After researching it myself, I decided since no one else is doing it I’ll take the incentive and give it my best shot. Don’t get too excited, since I may not get very far. But before I begin, there’re three questions I have to ask:
*NOTE: I own a Verizon i910 Omnia*
1. How do I extract the bootloader, kernel, and rom from the device? I’ve tried all sorts of rom kitchens and utilities and the things I get are either useless or work but only with i900 roms I downloaded and therefore not very helpful.
2. I need to disassemble WM’s device drivers (for the screen, touchscreen, buttons to start), and port them to a custom Linux kernel (that’s what Android will be placed on top of). What software do you recommend (for disassembling WM drivers for ARM in PE format)? A day’s worth of google searching turned up little to nothing.
3. This will involve flashing my one and only Omnia with bootloaders, kernels, and roms that, in all likelihood, will brick my device as I test it. I read in certain places something about a “jtag” cable. Can I use this to flash data directly to the chips without any kind of software running on the phone? If so, what kind of information can you provide? I don’t really care about my warranty, considering what I’m going to do to it To rephrase the question, what options (besides returning the phone) do I have to recover it if it gets bricked?
If anyone wants to offer their support I’d really appreciate it. I need people experienced with the inner workings of a WM device and also people experienced in Linux, specifically device drivers.
it would be great if you could install the Android OS. but i think we need to wait for the official drivers for Android, even if they would be released by Samsung. i start thinking it is impossible.
I honestly doubt Samsung will go the extra mile for a single product (even one as awesome as the Omnia) and port an entirely different operating system to just one of their products. This is one we're gonna have to do ourself. It is possible to do, I'm just stuck right now because I don't know how to dump the i910's rom, which contains all the device drivers I need to make a full-featured port of Android possible. This is what I need help with. It's really not that impossible, it just takes a bit of work.
Mods, could you move this thread to "development and hacking"? It would probably be seen by the people I want it to be seen by there. Thanks.
hey..dude.. checkup this from this group of ppl @
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431329
may be u can join ..
Hey Guys, I've got an Omnia as well and really really want Android on it. Although I am unable to script. I thought of a way to contribute a bit as well. I set up a website to raise money for the first person or organisation that pulls it off to run Android on the Omnia.
Have a look here:
I chipped in a €100 myself as well to make a start. I hope you guys can contribute some money as well so that it motivates the developers even more.
For the developers out there: "We know you can do it!"
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Qualcomm, QCT Tools, Firmware structure etc...
For study:
http://www.4shared.com/file/108584795/bb49ee52/I900_090226.html
Big thanx to barisyalcin.
For Android on Omnia. Good Luck.
The way is the Destination.
Best Regards
Why even bother installing a shell?
the android on the omnia only installs a shell compound, it does not actually convert the omnia into a full fledged Android phone.
I would just scrap it and pick up an actual android phone.
I am currently asking around if people would be interested in Ubuntu MID for HTC Hero?
Now my question is would you be interested in this?
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
i am interested..
M
Just went to your site and from the look of it , it looks amazing!, really impressive and hoping this will actually come out soon
yes imteresed
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yes imteresed
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same here looks nice
I know that we are on the Hero section, but your post seems to be interesting for the Archos:
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualos.html?country=gb&lang=en
I think it will be easier with the dual boot
@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
I would be interested fo sure - but why do You ask?
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@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
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The kernel's open-source, and the underlying OS is open-source. Yeah, the HTC drivers are closed, but with the kernel itself being open, they would be very easy to implement in another OS, like Ubuntu Mobile.
that day i was reading in a website that nokia n900 is dual booting ubuntu mobile without any significant lag.
Count me in
as I know, Ubuntu MID is targeted for Internet devices, or recently known as Tablets..
I don't know if you can make calls with this distribution !!
but .. what's the harm in trying?! downloading..
i would be interested...as long as i would have all the basic functions of my Hero working(Phone,modem,gps,3d drivers,speakers,accelerometer,hardware buttons,etc)
HD2
how would i go about loading Ubuntu MID onto my HD2, the hardware can more than handle it i just don't know enough about the boot loader to re-write it.
You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
Has any development actually begun?
Ubuntu MID edition is actually discontinued, if you read the wiki.
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You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
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this different. it is a chroot environment, not ubuntu actually running on the phone.
I bought this hero for android so I cant see the thing about having a sluggish os like ubuntu on it!! I would rather see slitaz linux to see how fast it runs as its a desktop distro at 27mb is quick!!!
The more ablities I have, the better the world is. I'm in!
I know xda developers is mostly a windows mobile and android sit but I would like a n900 section on xda developers it would really boost the hacking scene because we all know this is the best place for smartphone hacking and the n900 is the best device to hack it would almost be like love. What do you guys think.
Welcome to forums
This has been discussed many times and answer remains no. (as far as I know)
I love the idea!
I am thinking in moving on to this weird and wonderful device/os.
Even though it seems to have only a few applications available directly I've read that the Linux on it is based on Debian and if you know your way around linux you can download almost any Debian app. and what I often see here is people wanting to get their hands on some phone with linux in it or some version of linux for their phones. In a way this one offers all this but, yes, it is a Nokia device, so what?
I will still keep one of my HTC/Wimo devices but will scrap the rest!
I want always on full internet and other geeky stuff.
So there Orb! Put it in your pipe and smoke it!
Hey all,
I am a happy owner of a n900 and it is the first time I am so excited with a mobile device since my first symbian phone. What amazes me with the device is its 'open' character, meaning that you buy the hardware, with maemo ofcourse, but the device is meant to be exploited. you can dual (triple) boot running android, meego and maemo, you can port many applications (Qt 4.6.2 Gui required), you can compile yourself stuff, run a debian VM with easy-debian.
Since most of applications are linux ported, there is loads of stuff you can do. Am example I enjoy is you can run an x11vnc server on your n900 and remote access it from anywhere with a vnc client. Other fancy stuff such to connect the n900 to your tv, run an Amiga emulator, bind your ps3 controller over BT, and start playing.
It's (very easy) overclockable, GPU runs great, VoIP services as a charm (Skype Video is now added), and most important in a really good multitasking environement. And ofcourse the moment you want to call your phone will response very very fast.
While it does all of the above, it does give you an iPhone feeling in terms of ease of use and device polishing.
On the downside, until today the software was limited except if you were a linux pro as very well mentioned above. The new 1.2 upgrade with Qt support broadens the range and posibiliteis quite a lot. For me, only support for Flash 10 is also a big issue for now, and i really hope it gets addressed soon.
It is bulky (related to iPhone likes) - nothing new here.
Bottom end, I tend to agree it doesn't fit to this forum. this forum was always about smartphones. This is one a tiny marvelous computer that can make GSM calls too. I think its a bit advanced for this site ;-)
rGrds
George
phones with resistive and cheap plastic like feeling screens always put me down.....
go to MAEMO.Org its all for n900 and whatever u want to do with it..
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go to MAEMO.Org its all for n900 and whatever u want to do with it..
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there you go then if you have a n900 and want to tweak it!
better talent here than maemo.org. still have my htc hd and the n900, just can't part with my htc yet.
Please make it, its a way to promote a lot of staff and give one opportunity for this system, *if nokia* gives the same "status" as Google with Android probably it will be the best system for mobile ever. A simple example, Maemo as conceited to support Open GL 2.0, Android not. Maemo was made for gives a new way to do the things, Android is only a WinMO more social and user-friendly. Now with MeeGo, the system haves a new chance, but XDA could help because Nokia still sucks with support.
So, please make it, i will appreciate it as well.
WoW!
I am now running nearly ALL my dearest Palm OS apps of yore (from my Treo650) in a VM inside N900.
Gotta looove open platforms!
If interested, follow here.
how comes there`s a new Kin forums and nothing for the N900 thats just BS
i suppose the n900 is linux and we've tweaked with linux here at xda before so.... if you contact the administrator he might say yes!
Both Communities have amazing minds, and i'm sure that there could be some overlap of usefulness stuff if there was an included section.
At the very least it would generate new interest for the site as a whole.
I also think that an N900 section would compliment the already excellent forums of XDA. As you are probably aware there is a lot of development currently underway of porting Froyo to this device.
We are all like minded and are trying to get the most out of our mobile devices. The nokia N900 is linux based as with the andriod system.
Thanks
I stupidly started a thread on this subject without searching earlier, apologies for that, should know better.
I see that there's a few of us wanting to see the N900 represented here.
I'd be happy to do some articles on the power mangement system and other bits I've learned since getting my N900, if only there was an appropriate place to put them.
Please don't say the obvious "put them on <insert-name-of-maemo-forum>". I trust this community to dissect and disseminate information in a constructive way. Other forums just don't give me the same confidence.
I think it'd be a smart move to add it for a few reasons:
1. It is a great way to combine the minds from here to another powerful device
2. With major companies now backing the Meego OS for there vehicle systems, this would be a great way to get the foot in the door as this OS gains some ground in the coming year or so.
3. The community here is exceptionally constructive...it's not about what can't be done, it's about discovering what can. What better tool to use than an fairly open sourced/linux based device.
4. My biased reason: Now that it's my only device, I miss xda :-(
I'm sure there are also some seasoned programmers familiar with the OS differences that would be able to bring up some more in depth reasons on why programming for this device wouldn't be a huge stepping stone from Android/Win Mo.
I would believe that breaking down all of the positives on the programming side of things might be a way for the admin's to make a thoughtful/final decision on whether or not it's worth XDA's resources to add the phone.
i had a n900 and i loved and even overclocked it, my youtube video was on engadget and got 50000 hits
anyways great device and hardware but letdown by nokia, i then bought the desire as i got bored of n900. so happy i got rid of it it had a major price drop in the second hand market.
I would really like to see one as well since I just got the N900. I really like the community here and doesn't want to leave this forum because I bought a n900.
hi together i also own a N900 since Nokia decided to choose Meego and Maemo5 is dying i play around with Nitdroid for the N900 its an Android Port for the N900 and works very well the only Problem is that the Phone radio dont works. The Nitdroid Port for the N900 is done by 3 People so far maybe some good Devs from here could help to get the Phone or GPS working for this, that would be amazing.
I guess nobody cares about the N900 anymore .. since Nokia goes to Meego i just hope about the Nitdroid Port.
I'm not a big fan of Bada, having it for a couple of months now.
I'm hoping 2.0 will be better, but by then can another OS be ported to S8500 with less fuss than Android (e.g. WM7, webOS etc.)
you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all
Ok, meego then
forget it man...android is the best thing we can get into our waves and i am not sure meego is any better in every way. I suggest close this thread
maybe maemo???
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you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all
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please learn to read and to think
Hold your horses now! He is asking a very valid question. The biggest issue in porting another platform to the S8500 has been the boot loader which is being tackled, once we have a method of booting Android then other OSs especially ones using the Linux kernel (Such as Meego) shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android is/was.
As for Maemo, Maemo is now Meego so it would be a little stupid to try porting Maemo now wouldn't it
...shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android...
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You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
Best Regards
Dokugogagoji said:
So what? N900 is not Wave
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i know boy, but i would like to have meego or ubuntu in my wave
only posting that its posible
adfree said:
You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
Best Regards
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Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation. I was not claiming that Android was easy to port, I was Saying that once we have android ported other linux based OSs (such as meego) would be much easi*er* (not easy) to port over. Get it right before making statements like that in future. Also i can name quite a few, most of the WinMo 6 devices are able to boot android, the Galaxy S can boot ubuntu and android and meego, the pre can boot android, Web OS and the openmoko OS, the the HD7 can boot android and WP7, the HD2 can boot WP7 android, meego and WinMo 6.5 and the iPhone can boot iX, Android and IOS...... Shall i continue or shall i just take it my point is proven?
Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation.
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Maybe.
But easy, easily nor easier can describe any Porting project.
In my opinion:
Heavy, heavier, extreme...
According to Thread title...
Can any other OS be ported to S8500 easily?
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To many users not understand, how much hard work is in porting OS...
Best Regards
Is there a device that originally was not running Windows Mobile/Phone that got ported to do it?
As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.
sabianadmin said:
As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.
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Exactly what I meant. People should be realistic about the technical feasibility of some projects. The other part is community support - looking at how android porting project (being high demand from users) developed from a single man adventure to next-to-single I really doubt than any other OS would ever be ported to Wave. Anyone with belief of having enough tech know-how is welcome to begin and will receive support (from the few actually doing something) after showing good prognosis, but the chances of that ever happening are rather low.
I'm with sabianadmin on this topic: if oleg managed to create a fully functional linux kernel then why stop there? As ubuntu has ARM port it will be relatively easy to do that... Of course this will be just another toy to tinker with, but why not?
Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
mijoma said:
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Sure I feel the bigest issue with porting is always the time: everyone has her/his own life, work, family and most of the projects are time consuming... I can't find time to finish my Bada SDK learning rss reader project not to say bigger projects.
mijoma said:
Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Once you get the linux kernel working and a boot loader booting then it becomes a simple task to get other Linux based OSs running on that device. You can just recycle the kernel from the Android port and thats about 80 percent of the work done. As for non linux based OSs you would have to start from scratch. All of the OSs i mentioned in this thread bar WP7 and WMO run on top of linux. This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.
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This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.
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No. I fail to see the people eager to do it. I am pretty aware of the status of the android project and feel annoyed at the number of people involved. I wouldn't say it's that close judging from the pace of progress.
Even what most would find impossible is doable with enough effort, so talking about feasibility and complexity of tasks is just a background where human resources with enough tech know-how is still the main subject.
I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace?
Thank you
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I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace? Thank you
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I haven't used Linux directly in quite a long time but, the following threads may be helpful in understanding it a bit better. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723240
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3300596
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3530696
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2885245
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076138
There's others out there but, this will give you a good start...
Good Luck!
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I looked at them but that didn't answer any my question.
There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
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There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
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What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
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What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
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Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
karandpr said:
Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
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So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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There are lot of steam games for linux . Older games can be played using Wine or Crossover...
Don't expect to play newer games due to graphics card limitations. (DirectX and Video graphics drivers cause issues.)
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So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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An older laptop would be a good way to start. Since it's an older laptop I don't imagine there will be an expectation to play new games on it, Windows or otherwise. Still, remains a great way to dip in and and look at Linux's potential.
Also, the make and model of the laptop can determine how well it is suited for Linux (you have mentioned the Windows stickers earlier - especially recently manufacturers have been making it difficult to allow the switch to Linux), can do a web search with 'linux' in the search, or a distribution. e.g. ...
Code:
linux support lenovo t420
debian support lenovo t420
Lenovo, HP, and Dell are big names that appear to play nice (and System76 makes PC's for Linux). Others, can be like rolling the dice.
And when I hint at a difficult time, it's usually the wi-fi, sometimes the trackpad, maybe sound, rarely something very important like video.
Not saying this to discourage, only to suggest research when it comes to any equipment, old or new. Hopefully the toughest thing would be deciding which distribution to choose - I'm enough of an old fogey to stick to versioned, long-term releases like Debian and avoid the bleeding edge "rolling releases" provide.
Hope this helps.
Oh (looking back to the first post), advantages (which are in the eye of the beholder since they can potentially hold a disadvantage):
Free (as in freedom). I like to be able to vote with my dollar, even though Linux users are rarely obligated to pay for software. This is a philosophical reason, and one can go deep down that rabbit hole, what I like is, nothing is hidden from the public eye since the software is often accompanied by source code, on request. Which makes it difficult for say, a search assistant to send unknown data back to the mother ship.
Variety of experience. If you don't like an application, a windows manager, heck even the init process, you can replace it with something else or even write your own.
Support for older hardware. Often the method to revive a five to ten (sometimes quite older - I occasionally run an up-to-date Linux-powered laptop from 2002 with very satisfactory results) year old device for a new life.
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
Rbohannon89 said:
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
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I would go for a once-mid-to-high-end laptop of about six years old (newer run but still holding the Windows 7 stickers), from a vendor I noted before. It does not guarantee complete compatibility so you would still want to cross reference the model number.
I am not a fan of "chiclet" keyboards (I have enough difficulty typing on laptop keyboards) and have fond memories of the IBM ThinkPads (I used to own the popular 600X) that I maintain one of the final bastions before Lenovo took design tips from Apple (by the way, I hear MacBooks can have reasonable compatibility as well, though there would be an extra premium there).
For a laptop longevity perspective (the second thing to look for), a "flagship" laptop from a vendor (especially from Apple or Lenovo) means better access to (and thus generally less expensive) spare parts. To identify this on the Lenovo side, it would mean part of the "T" or "X" lineup (both are business grade; the X models just have a smaller footprint). For what it's worth, business-grade HP laptops are the "ProBook" series.
From what I understand, the learning curve is not that difficult. There have been people who knew nothing about computers that learned Linux quite easily. The challenge for a Windows user trying Linux becomes "un-learning" specific workflow to make way for new ways of doing things. Apologies I can only be general - me trying to share my experience with the learning curve is difficult since that transition was about two decades ago and Microsoft drastically changed the typical user's workflow three times between the early 1990's of my first computer and the year 2000 (MS-DOS -> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 95 -> NT5) that makes the transition from Windows 7 to 8 to 10 look like a food fight. The first year I was quite reliant on a guru (I was in the expectation to accelerate my knowledge for an upcoming project) until I was directed to not use that as a crutch. A bit sad to say, that moment I was told to "RTFM" for a simple problem was when I really started to learn.
But I would definitely not dive into the deep end (as they say) by wiping your main computer for Linux. For starters, even with decent backups (which you should be doing anyway), your data can be inaccessible (installing Linux on a fully set up PC means losing all your personal files there, and if your backup tool to other media is done by a Windows program, Linux may not support restoring that data).
It is also a quick way to become frustrated when hitting even a small roadblock. I would not use "confused" as asked above for this phenomenon. When you combine the impact of the problem with the time in which you would need it resolved by, it can create a sort of desperation on a forum when the answer could have been glaring back without realizing it. Depending on how well documented the issue's solution is (and when a problem that prevents the achievement of a deadline occours on short notice, blind spots tend to happen to even the best of us), would-be readers get frustrated as well and may criticize the lack of research. An exaggerated XDA example of this is when someone flashes a ROM on their daily driver, without any backups first, without wiping anything, and then frantic that their only phone has app force closures every five seconds - and the plane for their two week trip leaves in six hours. In short, a dedicated device to play on means you set the pace on how you want to learn.
A dedicated laptop would be the better way to go. For a no-cost (no additional hardware to buy) demo of Linux, can try a live CD (will also determine how your hardware can interact with Linux) or maintain a persistent instance through an install in Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare (which Linux will work even if your hardware does not play with Linux). Much further away from recommended territory we have the "cold turkey" method (gripes noted in previous two paragraphs), and finally - for a reason - dual-boot (which has to opportunity to hose one or both operating systems at any given moment - including your data - for as something as simple as a Windows Update).
This turned out to be longer than expected, but I hope this helps.
So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
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So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
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The closest thing you can do is run linux with chroot.
Here is a good post to get you started.
https://www.xda-developers.com/guid...a-gnulinux-environment-on-any-android-device/