Hello All,
I've been looking over various board (and Google) but found no answer to this particular question. I hope you can help.
I have an employee who has just got himself an XDA orbit. This has come with MS .Net Compact Framework version 2 on it. We use some device software that has been written for version 1. Now; version 2 is supposed to be completely backward compatible but it turns out that is not the case.
What I would like to ask is:
It appears that you can have multiple versions of the .net compact framework installed yet the MS installer will not install because it detects the newer version. I am not familiar enough with .net on these devices to know any way around this. Is it possible to retrofit version 1 at all? You advice would be much appreciated.
I would really like to help this guy out.
I guess this is because Microsoft thought they would be compatible. I would try to get another installer for CF1. If there is nothing newer than the one you have, try editing the installer. The cab-Installations are defined by xml files and are quite easy to read and edit. It shouldn't be a problem to remove the check of the newer version.
Tell us if it worked :-D
Ok...
I have the newest installer for .net CF V1 SP3. That's the latest one I can find on the MS site - without going to Version 2. I've unpacked it and I am now sitting looking at a folder full of CAB files.
I guess one of the questions I need to ask is whether it is possible versions of >net CF on the Artemis? If it is, are there any caveats?
And how do I know which CAB file to use?
I should explain that I am new to field of XDA modding so I don't really know all that much about how the OS works. This is a little project that will help a friend out (he is techincally incompetent) and give me a bit of extra knowledge (right now I feel technically incompetent...).
I'd try it that way: run the installer with the ppc disconnected. Then look into the "program files\Microsoft Activesync" folder which cab you can find there. Maybe it's more than one depending on your CPU. Extract the cab and edit the xml file.
CF1 SP3 is built into the ROM of WM5 so installing it again is just wasting your precious storage memory. CF2 SP1 can be installed to your storage card. CF2 is backwards compatible and can run CF1 applications, but since all WM5 devices have CF1 built in when you run a CF1 app it actually runs under CF1. You can force it to run under CF2 by placing a config file in the applications directory.
Read more here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/mikezintel/archive/2005/11/23/496123.aspx
The config file is explained here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/davidklinems/archive/2005/11/09/491113.aspx
@indiekiduk: without having read your links; are you sure about CF1 is installed on the device?
I tried the version checker of the hitchhiker website ( http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/ ) and it says ".NET Compact Framework Unknown (2.0.5238.0)" seems to me like version 2.*.
I have not installed any other CF onto my orbit.
correct me if i'm wrong please.
indiekiduk said:
CF1 SP3 is built into the ROM of WM5 so installing it again is just wasting your precious storage memory. CF2 SP1 can be installed to your storage card. CF2 is backwards compatible and can run CF1 applications, but since all WM5 devices have CF1 built in when you run a CF1 app it actually runs under CF1. You can force it to run under CF2 by placing a config file in the applications directory.
Read more here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/mikezintel/archive/2005/11/23/496123.aspx
The config file is explained here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/davidklinems/archive/2005/11/09/491113.aspx
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This is simply not true. The Orbit comes with SP2 installed and has never had SP1 installed - not in the ROM on the XDA I've seen.
The Orbit comes pre-installed with CF2 - I have seen this with my own eyes. It is also NOT completely backward compatible. Even the CF .net team admit this - there are always caveats when microsoft say something is "backward compatible".
I don't want to force it to run under SP2 - because it IS running under SP2 already.
Can anyone tell me which CAB file I can use to install another version of .net CF? And if it's even possible to retrofit CF v1 on the Orbit?
You could try changing the value under HKLM\software\microsoft\.NETCompactframework - to try and fool said program to believe you have CF1, CF2 programs may not work but worth a shot.
Title says it all...Landware made its .cab wm5 compatible only, I hacked it to install to any wm build. Hope some of you will find use for it, as you may know this is NOT pirated, you still need the same activation code as with WM5.
There's no WM6 APPS forum, so I figured this was the best place to post it.
I appreciate this, thanks. I'm a registered user of both the Palm and WM versions. My support inquiries fell on deaf ears.
The current version of Pocket Quicken (v2.5 Build 338a) installs and works well with WM6 without any tweaks. I have it on Cingular 8525 running CUSTEL WM VI Pro v2.5.
patmannyc said:
Title says it all...Landware made its .cab wm5 compatible only, I hacked it to install to any wm build. Hope some of you will find use for it, as you may know this is NOT pirated, you still need the same activation code as with WM5.
There's no WM6 APPS forum, so I figured this was the best place to post it.
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thanks for the file!!
2010 POCKET QUICKEN for WM6 CAB File imperfect?
I appear to have unexpected result with your Pocket Quicken 2.1_hacked.cab
Sync starting at 8:27 AM 06/09/2010
Device helper not found. Attempting to copy from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\LandWare\Pocket Quicken 2.5 for Pocket PC\pqppc25helper.dll'
The device helper could not be copied because it was not found. Please reinstall and try again.
Communications failure - result code 3f3/2
(This probably means that the device could not be found)
Sync finished at 8:27 AM 06/09/2010
Do you use your Pocket Quicken CAB file in an environment using Quicken for Desktop pc and synchronization with Windows Mobile?
Hi
I just installed pdaviet wm6 to my hx2410, battery drawing is not a problem for me, but as I found, wm6 use ipaq file store instead or RAM, for protection of files lost when battery is out. But this make whole system many times slower, can I switch wm6 to handle with files as old 2003SE and store files in RAM and totally disable ipaq files store?
thanks
no well a bit
with wm5 ms changed where storage was places from ram to flash
there is no way around that
but there are ramdisk tools which let the user use some of the ram for storage of files and programs
pity.... I was satisfied with 2003SE, the only problem was missing support for Wifi AES crypting. I will try install back 2003SE and put wifi dlls to windows folder...
Anyone can tell me what files exactly are "Utility" (2.27) and "Library" (2.34)?
You see it in wifi -> Manager
I like to copy these files from WM6 to Win 2003SE
thanks
problem is that windows mobile's driver model changed with wm5
so wm5/6 cant use wm2003 drivers and virsa versa
Hello, I'm new here, and I have been attempting to make two custom ROMs for the HP iPAQ 21x series, and I ran into a huge problem. I have two dump folders, and I can't figure out how to turn either of them into an NBH(or NBF) file. Any help would be highly appreciated.
Edit:Oh, and also, in case anyone was wondering, I'm trying to make them a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM and a Windiows Mobile 6.5 ROM, and they are both(as far as I know) clean, except for the HP stuff.
nbh or nbf... ? for what ? it is inpossible to flash it back, you need bldiag.nb0 and hpimage.bin (foxconn format) but fortunatly pdocwrite works fine, so you need to: dump or download dump of imgfs (part02, os) unpack it via imgfstodump, cook to wm 6,1 or 6.5, then convert back to imgfs via imgfsfrom dump, and write via pdocwrite, xip can be also writed by this way, xip is part01, it works but i'm not a rom cooker so I cant cook it myself...
edit: it is also possible to edit marvell obm's and bootloader, but only via linux
edit2: here is my post about ipaq 214 and pdocwrite http://forum.brighthand.com/showpost.php?p=1762892&postcount=4
edit3: it will also works on any 21x and 11x and as I think on other hp devices manufactured by foxconn
I'm sorry elektrownik, but I don't really get what you're saying, I'm not very experienced with this ROM stuff, this is the first time I've ever tried to make one. But in response to what you're asking(I think), I was going to make them NBH files, make a backup ROM image of the device, and then use the HP RUU, which I have made to look for a file called 'RUU_signed.nbh'(what I will name them), to update the device via Activesync connection.
Update:OK, I've managed to get a little further, and now I have two BIN files, and two NB.PAYLOAD files, and I'm pretty close to turning them into NB Files.
But how do you want to sign it for hpruu it need hp cert and key, or did you cracked it. Anyway here is default rom. http://rapidshare.com/files/2236847...n_marked_internally_with_custom_extra_data.7z
Oh, well I didn't know it had to be signed, but in the ROM files which I was basing mine off of(which I thought you made) was an HP digital signature file(.cer) that said it went an HP 21x Image Update, I clicked on it, Windows said it installed the certificate, and then the file dissapeared. I'm not sure if that will help use the HP RUU or not, but I found it kind of odd. Also, if you'd like to take a look at it I can put it up for download somewhere(there was another one).
Fdo35 said:
Oh, well I didn't know it had to be signed, but in the ROM files which I was basing mine off of(which I thought you made) was an HP digital signature file(.cer) that said it went an HP 21x Image Update, I clicked on it, Windows said it installed the certificate, and then the file dissapeared. I'm not sure if that will help use the HP RUU or not, but I found it kind of odd. Also, if you'd like to take a look at it I can put it up for download somewhere(there was another one).
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just do what I wrote - cook wm 6.1 or 6.5 to romdump convert it back to imgfs and it will be posible to write it to device by pdocwrite application
Fdo35 said:
Update:OK, I've managed to get a little further, and now I have two BIN files, and two NB.PAYLOAD files, and I'm pretty close to turning them into NB Files.
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What parameters did you use for Tadzio's imgfs tools on NBSplit?
Fdo35 do you know how to flash ipaq 21x?
Maybe you can work together with some people already trying to make wm6.5 rom....
Kind regards,
W.
Steven855 said:
What parameters did you use for Tadzio's imgfs tools on NBSplit?
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What's "parameters", I don't know what you mean. Also I don't remember using NBSplit, I started out with a IMG file which I then dumped.
Edit:Oh wait, I see what you mean. I didn't use NBSplit, I was following the attached directions to reconstruct ROM, except it wasn't for the device the file specified, and instead of 'imgfs.bin', I used a file called 'ipaq214.img', and instead of 'Windows.nb' I used a file called 'flash.nb'. And, I'm pretty sure that elektrownik made both files.
lol why you all dont read what i wrote, i have rom, which was reconstructed from dump, but it impossible to flash it from sd like on htc by flash.bin, ipaq 214 need bldiag.nb0 and hpimage.bin to be flashed from sd, but those files never was released so it is impossible to study format in which they coming, 214 can be also flashed from pc, but it need foxconn application and like before hpimage.bin, and there is official metchod - hpruu, but files which it use need to be signed first, we dont have cert and key to sign them, it wold be possible to patch hpruu to delate sign validation but i dont see anyone who working on this, as i wrote only one working metchod is pdocwrite application, i check it and it works, but i'm not room cooker so i cant cook wm 6.1 or 6.5 imgfs...
I think there are quite few topics about it.
It would be maybe better to have EVERYTHING relevant in one so everyone who posesses knowledge can help.
Now it looks that we (you) are inventing hot water... no offence - i appreciate all the hard work you put into this. But we (you) need better cooperation and clean topic.
I am grateful to everyone who share and try to make something. Respect to you all!
Kind regards,
WODP
The HP iPAQ 110 has a ROM update on HP's website, is it possible to get any of those files from that?
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3644061&prodNameId=3644062&swEnvOID=4014&swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=hh-59617-3
Hey, sorry to start another thread, but I noticed that on HP's web site there was a ROM Update for the iPAQ 110 series, and I remembered that the reason why the iPAQ 210 couldn't be flashed was because we didn't have certain files needed to flash to it. And, I was wondering if it was possible to get any of those files from it, or maybe even replace the IMGFS partition to make it compatible with the iPAQ 210(and change the OS version too), and use hpruu.exe to flash it to the iPAQ 210, if that's possible that is.
Edit:I have Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 IMGFS(in BIN format), so I don't need anyone to do that.
Well I suppose if that's not possible, is there any way I could use a program like pdocwrite to write the files to the IMGFS partition, and if so, how?
Well, I guess I'll just try to get an HTC Touch HD and flash a Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM to it instead of trying to develop one for the iPAQ 210. Oh, well, at least I tried. Here are the 6.1 and 6.5 IMGFS partition files for it in case anyone wants them.
Note:The File Hoster will only allow 10 downloads, so only download if your actually going to do something with it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/257934918/CEimage_6.1_.bin.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/257934921/CEimage_6.5_.bin.html