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Better Safe than Sorry - Do Not Want to Brick My Phone

I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.

Cinamon said:
I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.
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don't worry, just run the USPL tool, after running this tool, it will reboot your phone automatically... Than flash your phone with a WM6 rom or the B&B rom... And thats it... make sure you backup your contacts before you do the flash, cause it will wipe all your contacts from your phone.
If you don't like the rom you flashed, just run USPL again, and flash it with another rom or back to factory rom.
If you've got any probs, just let us know... there is a lot of wizards out here, who are willing to help. You also can pm me anytime. I'm glad to help if I can.
cheers and goodluck

Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.

macguffin said:
Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.
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Hey Matt, good to see you here... I didn't beat you mate... cause I was pretty sure, Wizards like you will be very helpfull too ;-)

You Guys are the best!
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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I think you have enough time, the whole procedure takes less than 15mins.
No need to take out the card, just follow the instructions above.
Good luck!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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No need to take the card out.
You probably do have time USPL take about 3 mins flash of ROM takes about 10-15
However these things are always best to do if you're not in a rush or desperate to get your phone up and running. Also if you put tom's b&b on you'll need about 30 minutes to just play with it

tom_codon said:
Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!
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When your Phone have SPL 1.11 - just in case you're wondering this is one of the red numbers you see when the phone first starts up, but you probably already knew that.

Holding my breath
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.

Cinamon said:
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.
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WM6 is ok but not that different from WM5 to look at and I guarantee that by tomorrow you'll have wanted to see what tom's rom is like and had to re-flash.
Since using toms rom i've been able to dump a lot of my third party software (mostly stuff from spb) and as you say it's very cool to looks at and will impress all your friends.

OK Tom's it is .......
Cross your fingers for me please ....

Postponing the Flash
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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Hi Interesting...!
Take care..!

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc...
But you're right, if you want to do this, and its your first time, you better do it when you're not in the rush... just prepare good, sit back and relax, and the flash will be good ;-)
I'm not sure if I'll be able to get online tonight... cause my internet is shut off since friday, my provider can't tell me where the problem is, and how to fix it... So I hope tonight after work, I'll be able to get online at home. And be able to help you out if needed... so fingers cross...
GoodLuck...

CoolGadget said:
You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc......
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I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?

shawndh said:
I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?
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who's your phone provider?

macguffin said:
who's your phone provider?
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I'll be using it on T-Mobile, USA. The phone will also be purchased in the US.
BTW, Just to clarify, I'm buying the phone from an online store, so the phone will be unlocked. I'll have to reconfigure it to work with T-Mobile SMS and T-Mobile Web service.

Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.

macguffin said:
Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.
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So I can't "dump" and store my own ROM? I have to download a dumped WM5 OEM from from someone else? I just wanted to make sure that I could put it back exactly the way it was just in case I needed to send it back or ship to HTC for repairs or something.
Also, will they be able to tell that the ROM was flashed and flashed back if I send it in for warranty repairs?

Problems w/HardSPL

I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.

Xyberz said:
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.
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Not easy to help you if you do not give more details... Are you running XP or Vista? Is it the first time you try to flash a rom (did it work already?)? Which version of Activesync are you using? Is your USB cable directly connected to a port of your PC or through a "long chain" of hubs?...

Nevermind, I finally got it. It doesn't state inside the instructions but here is some info to anyone new who has the same problem as I did.
Make sure to check your phone when the program will be searching your phone for info. You will need to give the program a "Yes" or "No" option on your phone. So watch out for that as it will save you a lot of heartache of the whole upgrading process.

Xyberz said:
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
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Post in the right section!
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HELP! (noob)

Hi,
So i just got my MDA compact III (HTC Artemis) and I have noticed that people upgrade them to windows mobile 6.
Unfortunatley this is my first WM phone so I don't understand all these technical terms (ROM, Cooking, CID etc)
can anyone help me? is it worth upgrading? how do i back all my info up? what happens if it goes wrong?
thanks in advance.

COngrats on your new phone.
It is always worth it to upgrade to WM6.
There are 2 kinds of locks: CID and SIM.
SIM locks prevent you from using say a TMO phone on ATT.
CID unlocks prevent you from flashing a new ROM (like a wm6 distribution)
You can use some backup utility to well, back up. Search the forum for one.
If something goes wrong, you can just reflash the RUU, which stands for ROM Upgrade Utility. It has the "default" rom that you get from your new phone.

Thanks. This helped a lot.
Where do I get the WM6 distributions from? how do I install?
does the RUU come with the phone or do I download it from somewhere?

With all due respect to fzzyrn IT IS NOT ALWAYS WORTH UPGRADING!
Since this is your first WM phone and you just got it you should take a few weeks and get to know it.
There rule to follow here is: if it is not broken do not fix it!
WM 6 has only a few small new features (major one being HTML email support) which you may find you do not need.
First thing you need to do is to read the WiKi. You will find detailed explanation about terms like ROM, CID and SIM unlocking there.
Then if you are still determined to upgrade you should be aware of the following risks:
1) If you bought your phone through a cell company changing ROM even to an official version from HTC will void your warranty!
2) You must take care and read the instructions that come with the update you are using. Preforming update incorrectly, having battery run out or phone disconnected from your computer will result in a "bricked" (unusable) device!
3) Some WM 6 ROMs, change your device hardware ID. If you have purchased any programs that lock on to that ID during registration they will stop working.
Now for your phone there are two options:
1) Official update on HTC site (if I am not mistaking should be out already, but I am not sure)
2) "Cooked" or unofficial ROMs. Look for instructions in Artemis forum.
Keep in mind that ROMs are device specific. There is no such thing as generic / universal ROM.
Also keep in mind that various ROM versions including official WM 6 have different bugs. There is no answer to which is best or a guarantee that you like any of them better than your original WM 5 ROM.

How I bricked / un-bricked my Vogue 6900

Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.

vogue_brick1 said:
Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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There is a microSD slot on the XV6900. It is on the right side of the phone under the chrome trim. You can see a small SD icon on the side of the phone next to the stylus under the battery cover!

louderjw said:
There is a microSD slot on the XV6900. It is on the right side of the phone under the chrome trim. You can see a small SD icon on the side of the phone next to the stylus under the battery cover!
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Thanks! I looked all over

vogue_brick1 said:
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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Not trying to be a flamer here ... but ... you should really learn about your phone stock ... capabilities ... features ... etc. ... prior to doing custom flashes ... especially with the radio ... fortunately for you and me ... it is extremely hard to "brick" a HTC phone ... it may seem bricked ... but I've only ever seen a couple true bricks ... most can be recovered by the heavy hitters here
My point is that you really need to understand your phone and what you're trying to do prior to doing custom roms ... unlockers, relockers, etc. ... this is extremely important when doing radio changes ... fearless and aggressive is no way to approach these changes
And as always .... read ... read ... read ... did I mention READ!!!!!
Again ... not flaming you ... kinda using you as an example so others will learn and maybe keep the number of true bricks to a minimum
Fuzzy

I agree, I got a little excited with this and should have taken my time... My last phone was an Apache xv6700 and I had a blast flashing that and upgrading it over the past 2 years. I rushed into it with this one because I'm an impulse guy and had just bought the phone within 24 hours

me too!
vogue_brick1 said:
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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could you explain how to use mtty! i "bricked" my xv6900 a couple weeks ago too. its stuck on the rainbow screen with the original spl (took a few flashes to get there)! i tried mtty when i did it and there wasnt a usb option in the program! im running on vista. already got my replacement too!

Not sure how to help you... There was a USB entry in the list when I did it, on XP.
On a separate note, I got GPS working and it's incredible.

Nice to see a Verizon user with GPS working!
Mind posting a little guide? I have my Vogue on order right now and want to update it right away for the GPS.

vaxick said:
Nice to see a Verizon user with GPS working!
Mind posting a little guide? I have my Vogue on order right now and want to update it right away for the GPS.
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Here are the steps I took to successfully get the Verizon hacked with gps:
1. get it hooked up with activesync
2. unlock with imcokeman 0.40 unlocker
(the docs said to flash to the original rom here, but there is no verizon ruu, and my phone auto-reflashed itself anyways and ran customizations)
3. unlock with imcokeman 2.31 unlocker
4. install the alltel RUU (should be in sticky thread)
5. download Build OS from ppckitchen.org and use the updater to get the vogue 6.1 gps 3.02 kitchen
6. pick options and build, flash..
fire open google maps, pick menu->use gps.. magic.
It helped me out of a jam tonight, lost in bumblefukk and found my way back with it.

could you please explain in step-by-step detail as to how you unbricked your xv6900?
I'm currently working on my friend's xv6900 (TyTN II user myself) and unlocking and flashing roms on this phone is so different (yet kind of the same?) and I'm now at a point where I'm stuck at the HTC startup screen and thats about it. where did you get MTTY and how exactly do you use it? I tried downloading one but it was a very old version (2001) and I'm pretty sure that it's not the one you were using.
if anyone else knows how to unbrick this phone please chime in thanks a lot!

vogue_brick1 said:
Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
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Can you explain what you did after MTTY? I bricked mine, got stuck in the SPL 2.1.1000 bootloader, used MTTY, got it unbricked, but now am stuck at the leaked sprint rom's splash screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Going to try anyway

Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.

But why flash to an older ROM?
We have great chefs cookin wm6.5 ported ROM´s!!
As long as you read and follow this guidelines you´ll be ok
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397583
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415225
Once you have the how, go to the proper section and choose a ROM!
There is no better ROM, that will depend on your personal needs, but believe me there are great ROM´s even better than the "official" ones...
Good luck,

Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.

hazzmatt69 said:
Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.
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I had issues syncing with my PC with WM 6.1. You can flash the original rom ( I used the original T-mobile rom) using the bootloader. With your phone off, hold the camera button and plug in ur USB then hit power button. the Tricolored bootloader screen should appear. You can flash your phone to the original rom from there. Once your phone is flashed, you might wanna think about flashing a WM 6.5 rom since the syncing problem is pretty much not an issue.
P.S. all of this can be found by reading through the threads.

hazzmatt69 said:
Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.
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is it not right here?
and to answer your question i believe that you would just need to flash an official dopod rom back onto it(using bootloader)...before proceeding with the reflash to the rom of your choice...the new 3vo rom is nice, by the way