I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.
Cinamon said:
I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.
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don't worry, just run the USPL tool, after running this tool, it will reboot your phone automatically... Than flash your phone with a WM6 rom or the B&B rom... And thats it... make sure you backup your contacts before you do the flash, cause it will wipe all your contacts from your phone.
If you don't like the rom you flashed, just run USPL again, and flash it with another rom or back to factory rom.
If you've got any probs, just let us know... there is a lot of wizards out here, who are willing to help. You also can pm me anytime. I'm glad to help if I can.
cheers and goodluck
Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.
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Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.
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Hey Matt, good to see you here... I didn't beat you mate... cause I was pretty sure, Wizards like you will be very helpfull too ;-)
You Guys are the best!
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!
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I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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I think you have enough time, the whole procedure takes less than 15mins.
No need to take out the card, just follow the instructions above.
Good luck!
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I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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No need to take the card out.
You probably do have time USPL take about 3 mins flash of ROM takes about 10-15
However these things are always best to do if you're not in a rush or desperate to get your phone up and running. Also if you put tom's b&b on you'll need about 30 minutes to just play with it
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Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!
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When your Phone have SPL 1.11 - just in case you're wondering this is one of the red numbers you see when the phone first starts up, but you probably already knew that.
Holding my breath
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.
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OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.
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WM6 is ok but not that different from WM5 to look at and I guarantee that by tomorrow you'll have wanted to see what tom's rom is like and had to re-flash.
Since using toms rom i've been able to dump a lot of my third party software (mostly stuff from spb) and as you say it's very cool to looks at and will impress all your friends.
OK Tom's it is .......
Cross your fingers for me please ....
Postponing the Flash
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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Hi Interesting...!
Take care..!
Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc...
But you're right, if you want to do this, and its your first time, you better do it when you're not in the rush... just prepare good, sit back and relax, and the flash will be good ;-)
I'm not sure if I'll be able to get online tonight... cause my internet is shut off since friday, my provider can't tell me where the problem is, and how to fix it... So I hope tonight after work, I'll be able to get online at home. And be able to help you out if needed... so fingers cross...
GoodLuck...
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You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc......
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I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?
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I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?
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who's your phone provider?
macguffin said:
who's your phone provider?
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I'll be using it on T-Mobile, USA. The phone will also be purchased in the US.
BTW, Just to clarify, I'm buying the phone from an online store, so the phone will be unlocked. I'll have to reconfigure it to work with T-Mobile SMS and T-Mobile Web service.
Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.
macguffin said:
Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.
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So I can't "dump" and store my own ROM? I have to download a dumped WM5 OEM from from someone else? I just wanted to make sure that I could put it back exactly the way it was just in case I needed to send it back or ship to HTC for repairs or something.
Also, will they be able to tell that the ROM was flashed and flashed back if I send it in for warranty repairs?
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"if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Is Kelfords statement which keeps him from upgrading.
I have the same feeling. I am a scary type: Afraid to brick my Jasjar.
So here are some questions to all that did the job:
1. After some weeks... still runs faster then before U-day?
2. Which problems have been solved defenitely?
3. Tell me why I am a sucker not to upgrade.
Huib
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1. After some weeks... still runs faster then before U-day?
2. Which problems have been solved defenitely?
3. Tell me why I am a sucker not to upgrade.
Huib
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1. Yes, I feel it's faster.
2. Update is not only for bug fix.
3. Some people still use Win98. You are not alone.
qt
I have upgraded mine twice in 3 days...
First with the official orange update, and second with the same rom but radio version 1.09 using the no id method..
Both worked very well and and the latest version is faster, more reliable and much better phone wise...
3. Some people are affraid that they will lose their guaranty if the upgrade.
But what is more worse then trying to upgrade after the waranty has expired, and then find out you have a model that gets stuck in the boot screen?
If you think about that, it's even better to upgrade to check if it gets stuck in the bootscreen, and send it back for another model that doesn't have this bug.
True or not?
Or you can just choose to stay with an unstable version, never upgrade at all and have a device with all kinds of bugs, and outdated os. Just like windows 98 users ^^.
i would say, if you are afraid, why not bring your universal to the customer services of your retailer to ask them to upgrade it.
My questions about upgrading to a non-O2 ROM are:
How do I get back GPRS/3G settings, MMS and SMS settings, all that stuff that the O2 ROM has and the JasJar one doesn't?
Also, does the JasJar ROM have the AKU2 feature (since I can't currently sync with our exchange server)?
qtotter said:
i would say, if you are afraid, why not bring your universal to the customer services of your retailer to ask them to do it.
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Qtotter,
I am not that afraid. I am a software guy myself.
But I am so horribly dependent on my phone ( living in the middle of nowhere of Romania) that I consider to buy another one for the case that I am stuck.
I am continuously connected to MSN (clients and staff) All my agenda etc. etc. I have a simple Nokia as a backup. That's why I am afraid. I did an upgrade before, and all went nice. so I maybe....
Huib
herpi said:
I am not that afraid. I am a software guy myself.
But I am so horribly dependent on my phone ( living in the middle of nowhere of Romania) that I consider to buy another one for the case that I am stuck.
Huib
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Did you buy it on eBay or something? If not, all you would have to do is just to take (or send) your uni to the retailer as long as the warranty is good if it gets stuck at splash screen.
Upgrading and updating is part of evolution.
If you brick it --> RTFM
You all got your point. I just upgraded succesfully.
Thanks for your input.
Huib
herpi said:
You all got your point. I just upgraded succesfully.
Thanks for your input.
Huib
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Congrats!
To Brick or not to Brick that is the question
I can tell you personally that bricking the phone is a bad situation. However you have to ask your self if it brick doesn't that mean it was broken to begin with? I am bummed because I don't have my Jasjar but I appreciate having it more now that it is being repaired. At least make sure before upgrading that you hard reset the device, not that it matters because it all gets overwriten but you want question "is it something I did or installed?"
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sandrobber said:
At least make sure before upgrading that you hard reset the device, not that it matters because it all gets overwriten but you want question "is it something I did or installed?"
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Never thought about that. Good advice! Thanks.
qt
I'm in the "don't know enough about it" camp, but gonna give it a go sometime. Stupid question - will Sprite Back-Up reinstate you customization after an upgrade. I guess not but ....
Is the stuck in bootscreen a malfunction with the device ?
Mine is back to the shop due to this problem. I hope it's under warranty, I flashed it with the Tmob UK rom rather then the Tmob NL rom because I have everything in english and work at a international company.
So the new types don't have this bug (read: feature) so it's safe to reflash it again ?
Rick GM said:
I'm in the "don't know enough about it" camp, but gonna give it a go sometime. Stupid question - will Sprite Back-Up reinstate you customization after an upgrade. I guess not but ....
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it's like before you update ur win xp sp1, you make a backup, and after u update ur system to sp2 and restore the backup, isn't it?
Sorry to sound stupid... but upgrading the Radio ROM will hard reset everything like upgrading the main ROM?
I just did the official Orange ROM upgrade. Should I now upgrade my radio, before I get too far into putting everything back?
Could someone give me a link to how I do upgrade the Radio ROM? Thanks
AndyCr15 said:
Sorry to sound stupid... but upgrading the Radio ROM will hard reset everything like upgrading the main ROM?
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No.
You can find radio roms on the net, or download a shipped rom (it is an executable archived file) and decompress it to get three rom images, one of which is a radio rom.
Refer to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
qt
Here is a link to the latest radio ROM, I installed this on my last unit, it didn't require a hard reset.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Radio/UNI_radio_1.09.nbf.rar
The new O2 ROM is probably the way to go, it will give you 1.09.00 radio and the latest OS and ExtROMs.
Most people seem to have problems with ROM upgrades if they do a hard reset after flashing, so just finish the upgrade and poke the reset pin without the keys held in.
I have the crossbow rom leaked and then removed from this board yesterday. Sharing the rom is risky, but I'll take the risk to get my Universal going again. I promise to share with anyone who can get my Uni going again.
I'll share the rom but I won't upload to this site or post links. We must protect this great site.
For my bricked Universal see this thread and what I've already tried:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289878
Thanks.
Yes. I want it ;-).
Last time when my Qtek 9000 stuck in bootloader I installed the bootloader again and the he came alive again.
Jorry said:
Last time when my Qtek 9000 stuck in bootloader I installed the bootloader again and the he came alive again.
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I wish it was stuck in bootloader. But the screen shows nothing no matter what I do.
As I managed to brick it when upgrading the bootloader I'm thinking I've managed to delete the bootloader...
I agree with jorry reflashing the bootloader can help, it was the soultion for me
poussin69 said:
I agree with jorry reflashing the bootloader can help, it was the soultion for me
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Thanks, but tried many many times. The PC just doesn't see the device and upgrading bootloader or rom just fails.
if u wrecked youre bootloader i think u have a problem. the only way to flash that rom is to get it out of youre universal and then reflash it using an hardware rom programmer unit.
i doubt it someone is able to help u with this.
good luck
Crossbow
And where to get the Crossbow ROM now ;-)?
So, if its totally bricked then you won't be needing the crossbow rom any more so feel free to send it to me ;-)
I think if you have really nothing on the screen you will be forced to do a RMA
As the others have said there are instructions how to recover it but if you haven't managed it via them then I am afraid it might be a RMA.
You are welcome to PM me with details about the location of crossbow too btw
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hey i was wondering if this new crossbow you installed bricked your fone? does anybody know if this is the same version faria is working on?
LovnGrlyGrlz said:
hey i was wondering if this new crossbow you installed bricked your fone? does anybody know if this is the same version faria is working on?
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No not at all. My Uni was bricked long before crossbow appeared. Its been sat in a dark cupboard for 6 months and I only became interested in unbricking it to try crossbow. Sadly I've given up on this one, but glad all other Uni owners have the chance to use crossbow now.
Anyway my current phone is a Wizard so I'm following the Chinese ROM conversion project with great interest.
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No not at all. My Uni was bricked long before crossbow appeared. Its been sat in a dark cupboard for 6 months and I only became interested in unbricking it to try crossbow. Sadly I've given up on this one, but glad all other Uni owners have the chance to use crossbow now.
Anyway my current phone is a Wizard so I'm following the Chinese ROM conversion project with great interest.
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Stupid question perhaps, but did you ever consider borrowing someone else's fully charged battery to see what happens? A device does not usually die from doing nothing, but a battery might.
Also try to upgrade on radio rom sometimes it bahaves the same as you have mentioned when radio rom is corrupt
First let me apologize for the title of this thread, I really couldn't resist. I just bought a i-mate jasjam and have spent the last several days reading these forums, the wiki, and all the other places that clicking things here will take you. I want to say right out that EVERYTHING I know about the Hermes I learned from this site, and that I am a complete beginner, and please do flame away if i am wrong. I'd rather get insulted online than have a brick in my pocket.
THe one thing that there isn't in the wiki (that I found anyway) is a current, step by step for total noobies like me who don't know what to do first and get scared by dealing with more than three file types in one sitting, that uses the SD card method. It seems that the SD method is faster, easier (especially if you run Vista), and even a little safer that the "old school" RUU method.
Soooo, I'd like to write a new wiki page to this effect, and am more than happy to put in screenshots, links, host file downloads, etc. What i'd REALLY appreciate is if you senior types could take a look at this simple outline and tell me if there is something drastically wrong with it. After a good schooling I'll post a complete article with more copied info from the threads and complete sentences and punctuation and stuff.
PROPOSED "DAY-ONE, JUST OUT OF THE BOX CAN"T WAIT TO" UPGRADE
1.enter bootloader mode to check sp version
2.format an SD card to FAT32, checking card integrity and fixing errors
3.Use Winar to Extract the .NHB file from Hard-SP-v7.zip, transfer to SD card with card reader and rename to HERMIMG.NHB
4.put the card in the phone and enter the bootloader by pressing side OK, Power, and soft reset button (with stylus). Once in bootloader mode accept the upgrade
This safe-nates things up, and CID unlocks the phone, right?
5.re-format SD card to FAT32, checking card integrity and fixing errors
6. Use WinRar to Extract the .NBH from HERM_Radinly_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU, transfer it to the SD card and rename it HERMIMG.NBH
7. put the card in the phone and enter the bootloader by pressing side OK, Power, and soft reset button (with stylus). Once in bootloader mode accept the upgrade
8. check the radio version in system info
9. re-format the SD card for FAT32, checking integrity and fixing errors
10. Use WinRar to Extract the .NBH from WM6 ROM of choice, transfer it to SD card and rename HERMIMG.NBH
11. Put the card in phone and enter the bootloader mode as above, when in bootloader accept the upgrade. Follow instructions from mrvanx for activesync
12. transfer my CAB files for applications to (Temp?) folder on card and then run each of them to install my apps (Skype, CeStar,TengoThumb,etc.)
Does this sound about right? Thoughts? Flames?
Thanks to all for such fantastic work, donations on the way for all who wrote files I have downloaded over the past few days, you guys rock!
whats with the SD card upgrading?
you can run HardSPL by itself, you dont have to extract and put the nbh file on ur storage card.. unneccesarry steps if you ask me..
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whats with the SD card upgrading?
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Well, I run Vista, and I like the idea of not having to fiddle with the drivers in order to do RUU, and I saw a few posts that some people had difficulty getting things to work with Vista. Also, posts have led me to beleive that it is faster to do it this way, which would lead to less chances of things going wrong (it's really hard to make Vista stop doing things in the background all the time). Also, there are already really awesome guides for doing it the RUU way, but not one for a complete SPL/Radio/ROM upgrade using this method, I think it appeals to a lot of people, including the dreaded Mac user. If it's not actually a good way please do explain, and finally, to me it just seems plain easier. I've only found a few posts that had troubles with the method and dozens that praised it. thanks for replying!!
Madcap, thanks for the input, I was going for continuity but I take your advice, keep 'em coming!!!
oh...you didn't mention Vista in your original thread.. lol .. best advice I can give you ... Throw vista in the trash.
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oh...you didn't mention Vista in your original thread.. lol .. best advice I can give you ... Throw vista in the trash.
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Yep, I ll drink to that
ugh .. u mentioned the D work.. great.. now I'm going to relapse..
Step 4 does not CID unlock the device. It looks like it just installs Hard SPL which will allow the user to recover from a bad radio flash.
Of course this should not matter as there really isn't a need to CID unlock any more (unless you want to unlock/unhide your EXT ROM)
HardSPL just makes your phone Temporary superCID right or something to that effect.
Zzan said:
Step 4 does not CID unlock the device. It looks like it just installs Hard SPL which will allow the user to recover from a bad radio flash.
Of course this should not matter as there really isn't a need to CID unlock any more (unless you want to unlock/unhide your EXT ROM)
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Cool, it was my understanding that Hard SPL temporarily makes you super CID (as Madcap said) allowing you to flash on any ROM you want, for all intents and purposes is this not pretty much the same thing as unlocking? Not arguing, just trying to clarify. A lot of noobs know that CID is an issue and that they need to disable it somehow when they flash......
Please keep comments coming,Thanks!!!!
P.S. MOD, in my sleep addledness I think I posted this in the wrong place, should it be moved to the UPGRADE forum? THANKS!!
P.P.S. Drinking is the only way I can tolerate having a Vista machine, we all were so happy about getting our new laptops this year, and then we turned them on....it's like getting a christmas present in the shape of a new bicycle, but when you tear off the wrapping paper there's really a tetanus shot inside.
SUCCESS!!
I followed the OP steps (with very minor modification) and was able to go from a completely new, out of the box, never even put in a sim card phone to HardSP-V7, upgraded radio, new WM6 ROM (Schaps, this ROM is awesome, thanks!!!). All without using a cable or upgrading any drivers. From beginning of first download to totally upgraded was one hour. Why anyone would ever do this the old-fashioned way is beyond me, especially if you are running Vista. I'm making a tutorial and have collected the few little things you need to do this and will add a wiki article with pics ASAP.
Thanks to everyone for all the great info and hard work here, a complete noob like me can go from 0-60 entirely by reading this site. I am loving this phone more by the minute!!
A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
crazyC said:
A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
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Yes only thing left is posting in the Hermes Upgrade forum.. ;-)
jompao said:
Yes only thing left is posting in the Hermes Upgrade forum.. ;-)
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Yeah, i deserved that
mlalahoi said:
Cool, it was my understanding that Hard SPL
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P.P.S. Drinking is the only way I can tolerate having a Vista machine, we all were so happy about getting our new laptops this year, and then we turned them on....it's like getting a christmas present in the shape of a new bicycle, but when you tear off the wrapping paper there's really a tetanus shot inside.
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Sorry man, I just couldn't help myself. I am in love with Vista. No problems whatsoever with it. Have had it installed since it came out and never had to re-install. Speed is the same as when I installed it. Can't say that for XP! LOL. I forget how many times I had to install that piece of........................
LOL
p.s no flames........please.
I love Vista. Its given my two year old laptop a new lease of life.
Hi mlalahoi,
I am getting a lot of issues after installing CE-Start. Played virtually with every WM 6 ROM arround and still experiencing freezing.
Have run Shadow and LVSW without CE-Start for couple of days and both ROMs was very stable and fast. After CE-Start lot of problems.
Will be nice to hear your experience with the Chinese characters
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A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
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I'm drinking to that CrazyC - my first couple of posts made me look a total ARSE (But I've learned loads since then...Honest)
marttin said:
Hi mlalahoi,
I am getting a lot of issues after installing CE-Start. Played virtually with every WM 6 ROM arround and still experiencing freezing.
Have run Shadow and LVSW without CE-Start for couple of days and both ROMs was very stable and fast. After CE-Start lot of problems.
Will be nice to hear your experience with the Chinese characters
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Did you download the 2.8 Suite from the mobem website here AND use thier installer to install TO THE PHONE (install to SD doesn't work)?
I had similar problems when I went through the process of getting my hermes to be dual English and Chinese. THe first time I tried to manually install some cab files I found on a chines forum somewhere, totally jerked my normally very good Shaps ROM. I ended up having to do a hard reset, trying to uninstall the cabs just caused an unrecoverable hang. Make sure you use the official, latest install program and install to the phone, mines been flawless ever since.
Without registering you don't get the dictionary, but you can get a really good free version of CEDICT for mobiles here, it allows you to search by pinyin w/wo tones, english, or chinese characters. If you have trouble getting it to copy-paste between other apps try this app from the Wiki.
I have a collection of good ppc Chinese learning tools, pm me if you want to set up a file transfer, and do check out www.mandarintools.com for all your CHinese computing needs, no affiliation, just a great site.
Hi mlalahoi,
Thanks for the links! Actually I was using all the time v2.8 of Ce-Star, including the original installer - never used cabs to install. I found that "my" version of Ce-Star package is 6KB less than the one you recomended - here might be the problem. During the weekend will flash a new Rom and will play with the "new" Ce-Star 2.8 -- hope it will rock
I am using the ppc version of 金山 (PowerWord) and it serves me well. My Chinese characters needs are very simple ones - to be able to reed text and e-mails in Chinese, and rarely to answer using characters.
Will send you feedback about stability of the ROMs with "new" Ce-Star
Like the title says this is my virgin flash. So what do you guys think should be my first ROM? I've looked at a bunch.
Looking for stability and style.
Just to get this correct I need to unlock my phone even though it's att and I'm using att. (Should I just unlock the CID or both)
Then I need to install HardSPL 7.1?
Then flash the ROM I choose.
Then load APPS as needed?
Thanks for the help!
Hardspl v7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
Then you should be good to go. Hardspl will help you in case you get a bad flash or bad rom, it's easier to recover. Supercid will allow to flash unsigned code (custom roms).
Looks like your on the right track, I'm just not sure where you got v7.1 for hardspl? That's why I included the links.
Also, "any rom you choose", but only from the Hermes forum. Flash a rom for another device means instant brick and you may not be able to recover it.
Hard SPL is a safety net only, there are NO guarantees you won't end up with a permanent brick, Hard SPL or no...
Most times you have to do something REALLY dumb to end up with a total brick but there is a miniscule chance, especially if you are playing around with the radio rom.
Happy flashing...
It was late last night and I couldn't remember if it was 7 or 7.1 lol. I'm charging the phone now. Gonna make sure it's nice and full then I'm gonna give it a shot. Thanks to you both for the help. I just needed to hear I was going about this the right way. I think I'll try one of Schaps ROM's first then try one of Josh's and see what I like about each. I've only got about 50 pages in on each so I'll read alittle more while the phone is charging. Thanks again!!
Oh wanted to ask also is there a Page or sticky just for Apps, skins, themes, and such or do I need to know what I'm looking for and search it?
Dang I thought my other phone had a microSD card in it.....turns out it's M2. Guess I'll stop on the way to work to pick one up. Non SDHC 2gb or less! Another question when it states now copy this to your phone....What file do I copy it to? (I'll head back to the Wiki and see if I can find that myself but figured I'd ask).
copy the RUU_signed.nbh and rename it hermimg.nbh the exe file is the flashing utility, and you don't need it if your flashing via the sd card.
make sure the card is formatted as fat32 (not fat).
Ok I did it the RUU way without the SD card. I'm now at 2.10.01 so I'm good. Now off to work and will hit the unlocker next. Thanks for the help!!
Ok unlock has been completed now I'm going to run Hardspl again. What about the radio I see that is has changed. Should I change that back to what it was at some point?
Ok I've done my first ROM flash wow! I grabbed Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31. I'll try it out and see if I like it. If not try another. Thanks again for helping me thru!
If you wish to risk changing the radio, do so but only if theres a problem. If the radio rom flash is interrupted, you will almost certainly have a brick on your hands.
Use the sd card method to flash so you then minimize the amount of problems you may have.
Remember though, if the radio rom is working fine, don't touch it....
Cheers...
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I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
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Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
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Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
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Ah, cool! Thanks, vp3G! I guess I took all the info wrong. Reading the 2 threads it wasn't clear. I guess my method worked though! haha
Yea, it's all quite confusing... Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker. Olipro is a friggin' genius (as is pof).
So all I needed to do was Hardspl and I would have been good to go? I have another hermes I'm doing for myself. I do find I'm not getting very little service if not none at all in the house. I use to get 3 or 4 bars. Should I change the radio? Does the radio change with each ROM loaded?
You can try going back to the radio that you originally had, just do it the sd method to minimize the chance of something going wrong.
You could compare the difference between the 2 hermes.
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Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker).
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True, but if you wish to sim unlock then you still need Pof's unlocker.
I have to admit I'm getting there myself LOL. It really isn't that hard after you do it the first time. Some things I got stuck on (Pure newbness).
Some ROMs are compressed with .rar and .7.....I found you must download a unzipper/compressor to extract the files you need. I used Winrar some use 7zip. I'm getting there. There is soooo much info on this site. You find that you search for an answer and you get a page of answers with 3 different ways to do it LOL!
We have all been there at one point, too!
When I first brought my hermes home and it was still locked to the at&t network, I was so worried I was going to break it.
Lots of reading, and lots of tinkering later, and I am working on my own rom. Granted, I didn't port it, but I have done so much tweaking that I don't think anyone could tell where it came from.
Funny thing is, I still keep learning so much more. I think it's like my other hobby, ham radio, I don't think anyone can try everything! It seems to go on and on.
Ya know you gotta love the internet LOL. I've learned about so many things (mostly due to them breaking lol). Here's another question for you guys. For those who have Josh's 6.1 ROM. Where is the lock unlock button??? I see the lock device setup for password protection but I don't see a regular lock the screen so I don't make but calls button. LOL I'm gonna try to load his S2U2 thing when I figure out how to do it.
You can add device lock to the today screen under settings>today (at least it should be there), but if your using manilla I don't have a clue lol
I tried to update my rom...now it gets to the windows mobile screen and hangs.. I can get it into bootloader screen.. The problem is i cant find an original rom to go back to.. my info was..
dopod p800w
rom 129.706.11chs
11/07/07
02.84.90
4.1.12.38
ext rom 1.29.706.111
Now in bootloader it says IPL 129.0001
SPL1.11.0000
usb will show up but not the thing in the upper right corner..?
Im a newbe and decided to jump in after seeing all the good luck that everyone has had..
Can anyone help..
new info..
I can get to bootloader screen hook up the usb and even synk with active synk 4.5 but as soon as i try the start uspl or the ruu my phone disconnects.
This is starting to drive my wife nuts ive been on the comp 4 about 18hrs in two days trying to figure this out...
should i just send it in to htc and have it reflashed???
Any ideas???
Found this for Dopod P800W
http://rapidshare.com/files/42891918/P800w_SEA_ENG_WM6_Upgrade_20070713.zip, if it has pass i think it is kastibong
Don´t know if it will help you.
Thanks ark 666,
If i have heard right i need to flash back to the chinese (chs)
then once im back to original i need to iemei unlock then i could use the rom in the link that you provided..Am i right??
thank you for taking the time to respond to me, I know you guys are well beyond us newbes and it can drive you nuts with the same old questions....
some of us really do appreciate it.
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Thanks ark 666,
If i have heard right i need to flash back to the chinese (chs)
then once im back to original i need to iemei unlock then i could use the rom in the link that you provided..Am i right??
thank you for taking the time to respond to me, I know you guys are well beyond us newbes and it can drive you nuts with the same old questions....
some of us really do appreciate it.
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Try this wwe rom, is for the same region as your device, with cht support, if this doesn´t work then wi´ll try to arrange the Chinese one.
Cheers.
Man, I thought i had it.. It finally went to the ruu on the boot loader screen started to update and got to 2%....
This is what it said
ERROR (244) : INVALID MODEL ID
This update utility cannot be used on your PDA phone. Please check your update utility click to exit..
DPRRH<68-ASVH55670-DPRRH568-ASVH5/01*
at least i got to see the ruu on the corner of the phone this time.
Any ideas what to do now?
I arranged this rom "P800_CHT_3.7.709.1 chs cust", i think it´s this one, it´s the most recent, , for p800w.
Though this one is CHT, CHS customized.
akk666,
Do you have a link for the rom in the last post?
maybe i could pm you so this post dosnt get to long..?
What do you think of this.....
szlcdn_p800_wm6_chs_1023.nbh
found it from here...
http://translate.google.com/transla....9966.org&hl=en&rls=RNWO,RNWO:2008-20,RNWO:en
what do you think??
Try it, maybe it´ll work.
http://www.4shared.com/file/111733762/5c488ad0/P800_CHT_377091_OS_CHSCust09.html
Havent quite figured out how to change out the nbh in the ruu to get either of those to load like complete ruu..
Is there a program that makes this more idiot proof to change the nbh?? That would be nice.
Type nbh in.. it takes you right to it highlighted, then it has you copy your new one and paste in a command line then asks if you want to replace it..
Man thats what sucks abt being a newbie is that it takes sooo long to figure things out 3hr 20 min and still at square one..
lots of links though
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Havent quite figured out how to change out the nbh in the ruu to get either of those to load like complete ruu..
Is there a program that makes this more idiot proof to change the nbh?? That would be nice.
Type nbh in.. it takes you right to it highlighted, then it has you copy your new one and paste in a command line then asks if you want to replace it..
Man thats what sucks abt being a newbie is that it takes sooo long to figure things out 3hr 20 min and still at square one..
lots of links though
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U could write it in chinese, that i would´ve understood the same.
Nothing.