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Cingular Push To Talk on Windows Mobile 6.0

Apologize beforehand for the n00bness. This is my first post and I'll try and keep it clean. I've been trying to get push to talk working but for the life of me, it's no go. Originally the plan was for me to try to get it working with Custel's Windows Mobile Black Cingular Edition, but I can't figure out how to get it from the regular Cingular edition to Custel's GREAT cooked version. The way's i've tried are as such:
Taking out everything from the Extended Rom and identifying the PTT *registry?* cab and installing it.
Going into the Device\Windows\PTT and the Device\Windows\ Folder and copying all the necessary files
Nothing seems to be working. On another note, I can't seem to get VoiceBuffer to copy over. Any ideas? Thanks in advance guys! And the march continues~

Even if we can get PTT working, would we only be able to use it with other cingular customers? Or people with other carriers also?

TheGenix said:
Even if we can get PTT working, would we only be able to use it with other cingular customers? Or people with other carriers also?
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Only cingular customers.
If you search you will find your answer as to why it does not work. If it was that easy it would have been functional a long time ago.

Hey Custel!
Thanks for Cingular Black!
Yea i'm still trying to search and figure everything all out. I feel technologically retarded right now.

Infornography said:
Hey Custel!
Thanks for Cingular Black!
Yea i'm still trying to search and figure everything all out. I feel technologically retarded right now.
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No problem, going to have cingular version based off of my rom tomorrow some time as well .

If it has PTT I'll love you. The Cingular Black Edition you put out is almost PERFECT for me, except the whole PTT thing, it's driving me mad!

So I have been searching for two days and I can't find the PTT install cab. Where is it, I just did a WM6 ROM and I would like to use PTT as I use it for work. Anyone able to help

Coinstar99 said:
So I have been searching for two days and I can't find the PTT install cab. Where is it, I just did a WM6 ROM and I would like to use PTT as I use it for work. Anyone able to help
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yes...
YOU CANNOT USE PTT ON WM6!!
as it requires editing the rilgsm and ril.dll's that control the radio interface layer (RIL) for PTT to work...

Well...... um that was nice of you. Thats all anyone needed to say. Thanks for the subtle answer

Coinstar99 said:
Well...... um that was nice of you. Thats all anyone needed to say. Thanks for the subtle answer
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anytime

walshieau said:
anytime
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So let me get this straight?
PTT will not work on WM6?
Jim

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
So let me get this straight?
PTT will not work on WM6?
Jim
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until HTC or Cingular release the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 then no it wont work

laughs....i dont think one could find a clearer answer than that.
walshieau said:
until HTC or Cingular release the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 then no it wont work
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the ril's from wm5 work on wm6... the app will also run on wm6... there is just one slight problem... no one can get the PTT button to work... however there may be a solution soon, the cing/att Kaiser rom that was posted by incognitho is wm6 and has PTT.. people are working on porting that over to hermes, if all else fails i keep hearing that att will have a wm6 rom for hermes in july (i dont think it will be for the public, but i could be wrong)

Quite honestly, PTT would be nice but not necessary for me. I currently have an LG 400 on my business plan (6 phones) and well...I don't need it on my 8525 right now, except to stop carrying 2 phones with me.
Jim

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
I don't need it on my 8525 right now, except to stop carrying 2 phones with me.
Jim
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sounds like a good enough reason to me

shogunmark said:
sounds like a good enough reason to me
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LOL.
I'm a realtor and investor and it seems like a badge of honor. The more phones you carry the more important you are....NOT!
LOL.
Jim
By the way, if anyone wants to know how they can have their house pay for itself and structure a 10 year retirement plan. Hit me up with a PM (This will probably be deleted for spam. LOL.

does anyone knows if there would be a release of the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 so we can use ppt?

oscarpav said:
does anyone knows if there would be a release of the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 so we can use ppt?
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Yes, they were just released here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315565

CUSTEL said:
Yes, they were just released here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315565
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Very funny!!!!!

Cooks - By trade or hobby?

Just wondering about the backgrounds on some of the cooks on here. I've briefly looked up how to cook a ROM and yeah, it's way beyond me.
So was wondering the backgrounds on the chefs here at XDA. Cheers.

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ThaiM said:
Just wondering about the backgrounds on some of the cooks on here. I've briefly looked up how to cook a ROM and yeah, it's way beyond me.
So was wondering the backgrounds on the chefs here at XDA. Cheers.
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My background is a manager at wickes in the u.k and I just learnt to cook and buildl my own roms and I love my sig

duttythroy said:
My background is a manager at wickes in the u.k and I just learnt to cook and buildl my own roms and I love my sig
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But you have some sort of knowledge in coding or something? Doesn't cooking these ROMs entail complex coding? C+? etc? I have no idea, just wondering. I'd like to learn and eventually do something up for us Canuks for Rogers network specifically.

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ThaiM said:
But you have some sort of knowledge in coding or something? Doesn't cooking these ROMs entail complex coding? C+? etc? I have no idea, just wondering. I'd like to learn and eventually do something up for us Canuks for Rogers network specifically.
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i have learnt everything i know from XDA and from everyone who have contributed to XDA
i COULD LIST THEM BUT IT WILL TAKE AGES
Best thing to do is to try and try read ask questions and keep trying

Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881 it's a nice easy way to get started. Just make sure you have the latest olipro loaded on your phone before you start flashing your home cooked ROMs.

I tried my hands at "cooking" my own. Got lost after a while and couldn't follow the discussion. Seems to involve more than just following the steps listed.
You guys are good.

Found Dutty's Official WM6.1

I found this on the Kaiser forum , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369505
Would this work on a Hermes?

That looks sweet! Would be nice if someone could create something along those lines for the Hermes.

mikehippe said:
I found this on the Kaiser forum , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369505
Would this work on a Hermes?
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Since the ROM is for a Kaiser then no It wont work. ROMs contain more than just the OS, they have the drivers and files required for that particular device also.

Thanks for the reply. It is really a great looking ROM. I wish Dutty would make one for the Hermes.

mikehippe said:
Thanks for the reply. It is really a great looking ROM. I wish Dutty would make one for the Hermes.
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dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)

aaronsmckee said:
dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)
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Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.

aaronsmckee said:
dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)
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Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.

Dr Puttingham said:
Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.
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Yup porting is not something easy...thats why i call them CHEF's LOL
BTW I dont think M$ has released 6.1 yet, so I dont think this is actually THE version!!

Dr Puttingham said:
Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.
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how true that is! Might be better off just installing the dutty's apps via cab. Then again why not just wait tell poorlyducky uploads his new vista themes and use them instead. I can't wait to see a Faria (any word on that Dr. ) or K rom with the Vista themes.

Dumping a ROM and cooking is still a little over my head at this point. I'll keep enjoying all the great recipes the chefs here are cooking up.

Wow!!
Damn that is a nice looking rom.
Wonder what would be required by Dutty to create a hermes version too for us less knowledgeable folk???
My Kaiser is a company owned phone so I can't play around with it and, as much is it erks me, must run the official rom. Ahhh I hate official roms they suck.

BlueAnt1958 said:
Damn that is a nice looking rom.
Wonder what would be required by Dutty to create a hermes version too for us less knowledgeable folk???
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Umm, last I checked, there is at least one, perhaps two, hermes ROMs that are using the same build as the keiser ROM from Dutty, and I'm pretty sure that I've seen a cab or two that install the keiser stuff (com manager, dialer, etc) on the hermes.
Unless you are looking for a nice all-in-one package, everything is already around, just have to look for it.

This thread will tell you which ROM to choose.

HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
So if you feel like it, post away. Hopefully if anything, this will serve as a basis for which rom to choose.
Please don't spam the thread with posts agreeing with other users. I didn't intend for this thread to be a discussion. Try not to post based off other posts, and please
DON'T QUOTE ANYONE!
This means if someone says "I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS". Just post AGAIN stating that it is purple, as well as what else you like about it.

Reserved for future use

ROM: CRCs STABLE (v11.2; 17-Jul)
This is a great rom to use. Battery life is excellent, and my phone never hangs / crashes. (hence the stable). I like that it accepts dialer customizations (3G dialer from the kaiser for instance) without making you go through a graphic nightmare trying to get it to work.
I *have* noticed some WIFI issues however... Not being able to connect to networks that I KNOW are open. It will say you are connected, however you won't be able to transfer. This however is only a very rarely encountered issue, and usually at WIFI hotspots in restaurants and hotels. It ALWAYS works on my home network.
Rom seems on par with most when speed is considered. It is not either slow, nor exremely fast. Quick enough to do most any task with less than a 1 second wait.
I would definately recommend this rom for use by anyone who is considering their first upgrade, or anyone who wants a very useable rom with a good basic set of programs and tools.

Thank you for bringing this up
Personally, I would say CRCinAU's roms have been the benchmark for other chefs to 'match' or 'better'
These days abusalza is that chef. Again these are my personal opinion, you really NEED TO FLASH ALL THE ROMS, to find what you like and what you don't.
No one can tell me what I will like and what I won't like, as it is down to preference.
So, in other words, .... this thread is pretty useless

in here is a link to rom benchmarks (great job be veyka) to assist U:
>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419158

Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?

Rom choice is.. very much what you like.
I can tell you from exp, and I have flashed almost every rom here, as im sure many other people can, that its the ONLY way to know what to use.
There isnt a bad rom, just one that isnt right for you.

since joining this community, i have flashed many roms. I have flashed almost every release during that time, it would exceed 100 roms.
now, what i have noticed is that it doesnt matter which rom i chose, i end up putting the applications on it which i like. Some of the roms have these and others do not. so really, find what it is you like, get the cabs for it, and almost all roms are the same.
there is the stability and speed of roms which is different. but with a 400mhz processor, the speed is barely noticeable unless you change the pagepool.
There is one rom that i always return to when i am away for a while, being Berds 4.31 SS

I find there is a huge difference in speed and battery drain between different WM6.1 roms.
I would personally hold up CRC and PDAcorner as the best two out there atm.
(main difference is if you like your rom vanilla or not)

carcomp said:
Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?
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Hmm hardly a 'consumer' report, as most of them don't donate, may be you should call it 'free loaders report'

carcomp said:
HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
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btw, on that note. WM6 is WM6, whatever device its on, each rom comes with diffrent stuff cooked in..
Same goes for 6.1.
Its also quite easy to tell if the roms your cup of tea from the thread and screenshots, eg, does it look loaded, lite, comes with HTC home ect!
carcomp said:
I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS
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I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.

I reccommend
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0

joshkoss said:
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?

Long winded response (sorry)
veyka said:
Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.

joshkoss said:
well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work

veyka said:
Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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well sir, i'll be as much of a help that i can be.
Best regards,
noob chef!

veyka said:
I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.

zocster said:
Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Here you go

veyka said:
Here you go
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thank you sir.

zocster said:
thank you sir.
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More than welcome

WM6.5 Clean and uncustomized? Is it available?

I've been looking for new rom to suite my diamond.
I want 6.5 cause of the improved behavior of scrolling and since its a little more fingerfriendly in the menus.
The issue is that every rom is so tweaked that after 5Mins I get memory usage of 90%!
Therefore I'd like to find a basic WM6.5 that hasnt been touched and tweaked,
So I can use it with my own software customizations and thats all.
I dont like the tweaks so much since it kills the memory and cause problems to softwares like IGO and Opera which needs a bit more memory.
Thanks!

looking for same here..

I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.

band27 said:
I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.

Don't Panic said:
This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.
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I've PMed you, take a look and enjoy!
What I have recommended is a Rom that has been customized but it consumes very little memory and it's fast and stable.

Please can I have link. Thanks

band27 said:
I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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Heh. Well, your sig just gave you away.

im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me

Use lobsterdave's easy to follow kitchen and cook your own.
Much easier and you won't have anything you don't need.

as the post above states
make it yourself....that way you get what you want...and not what a chef thinks you want.

i'd like to cook one myself but I couldnt find a basic rom with the latest wm6.5

eranyanay said:
im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me
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Im sure you're well aware that both WM6.5 and the tf3d2 (for diamond anyway) are both in beta/experimental stages (Hence, there is no such thing as 'official 6.5' atm), and that even if you don't tweak them they are bound to have memory leaks? (tf3d was a memory hogger for 6.1 btw INMHO) Just the fact that you found no 6.5 rom to suit your needs of more free ram, is already a clue dude.

eranyanay said:
i'd like to cook one myself but I couldnt find a basic rom with the latest wm6.5
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I think you're misunderstanding.
You don't need a base ROM. It's all included in the kitchen along with all the packages. You can of course create your own packages and add what you want to the kitchen.
Then after you've selected what you want in your kitchen and what you don't want you can cook it into a ROM. Before you cook you don't have a base ROM, you have a whole load of files in their raw format ready for packaging into the ROM.
As I said, use lobsterdave's kitchen which is exceptionally easy to follow and has instructions.

Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?

donsalari said:
Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?
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Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311

Can you PM for clean WM 6.5 ROM?I'd like get one as well...

JeganathanK said:
Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311
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God bless you!!