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jim256 said:
Hey I simply had a quick question regarding if you think this HTC ROM builder program will have support for the CMDA Vogue Touch as it does for the GSM Elf Touch?
Thanks a lot, Jim.
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If I will recieve specific FW data (block's names, IDs and sizes) for this phones from someone then I can include it in new version of devices config file.
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sorry but where exactly would i find this information? i would be more than happy to help in order to get things rolling for the Vogue. Thanks a lot,
Jim.
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You need to be confident in firmware-disassembling to properly extract and understand this information. As I have not Vogue in my hands I can't help you with this. Try to ask somebody in the forum to dig out and provide this infos.
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i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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What's the point? I'd rather leave it up to those who know how to make a good, stable rom kitchen, than attempt it on my own.
--James
i dont think there is much risk here, seeing as how you can always re-flash again. it would just be a great learning tool, as well as a great developing tool for those who are interested.
cooking roms can take an awful lot of work, and this looks like it could really clean things up, not to mention its GUI would help a lot of noobs get started.
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i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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I may be wrong, but it sounds like he's referring to the template used by nbhtool that basically automates nbhgen so that you don't have to update the configuration txt?
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I may be wrong, but it sounds like he's referring to the template used by nbhtool that basically automates nbhgen so that you don't have to update the configuration txt?
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unfortunately like i said, i have no idea. anyone else able to comment on this??
thanks for your help guys.
HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
So if you feel like it, post away. Hopefully if anything, this will serve as a basis for which rom to choose.
Please don't spam the thread with posts agreeing with other users. I didn't intend for this thread to be a discussion. Try not to post based off other posts, and please
DON'T QUOTE ANYONE!
This means if someone says "I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS". Just post AGAIN stating that it is purple, as well as what else you like about it.
Reserved for future use
ROM: CRCs STABLE (v11.2; 17-Jul)
This is a great rom to use. Battery life is excellent, and my phone never hangs / crashes. (hence the stable). I like that it accepts dialer customizations (3G dialer from the kaiser for instance) without making you go through a graphic nightmare trying to get it to work.
I *have* noticed some WIFI issues however... Not being able to connect to networks that I KNOW are open. It will say you are connected, however you won't be able to transfer. This however is only a very rarely encountered issue, and usually at WIFI hotspots in restaurants and hotels. It ALWAYS works on my home network.
Rom seems on par with most when speed is considered. It is not either slow, nor exremely fast. Quick enough to do most any task with less than a 1 second wait.
I would definately recommend this rom for use by anyone who is considering their first upgrade, or anyone who wants a very useable rom with a good basic set of programs and tools.
Thank you for bringing this up
Personally, I would say CRCinAU's roms have been the benchmark for other chefs to 'match' or 'better'
These days abusalza is that chef. Again these are my personal opinion, you really NEED TO FLASH ALL THE ROMS, to find what you like and what you don't.
No one can tell me what I will like and what I won't like, as it is down to preference.
So, in other words, .... this thread is pretty useless
in here is a link to rom benchmarks (great job be veyka) to assist U:
>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419158
Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?
Rom choice is.. very much what you like.
I can tell you from exp, and I have flashed almost every rom here, as im sure many other people can, that its the ONLY way to know what to use.
There isnt a bad rom, just one that isnt right for you.
since joining this community, i have flashed many roms. I have flashed almost every release during that time, it would exceed 100 roms.
now, what i have noticed is that it doesnt matter which rom i chose, i end up putting the applications on it which i like. Some of the roms have these and others do not. so really, find what it is you like, get the cabs for it, and almost all roms are the same.
there is the stability and speed of roms which is different. but with a 400mhz processor, the speed is barely noticeable unless you change the pagepool.
There is one rom that i always return to when i am away for a while, being Berds 4.31 SS
I find there is a huge difference in speed and battery drain between different WM6.1 roms.
I would personally hold up CRC and PDAcorner as the best two out there atm.
(main difference is if you like your rom vanilla or not)
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Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?
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Hmm hardly a 'consumer' report, as most of them don't donate, may be you should call it 'free loaders report'
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HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
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btw, on that note. WM6 is WM6, whatever device its on, each rom comes with diffrent stuff cooked in..
Same goes for 6.1.
Its also quite easy to tell if the roms your cup of tea from the thread and screenshots, eg, does it look loaded, lite, comes with HTC home ect!
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I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS
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I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
I reccommend
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
Long winded response (sorry)
veyka said:
Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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well sir, i'll be as much of a help that i can be.
Best regards,
noob chef!
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I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Here you go
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Here you go
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thank you sir.
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thank you sir.
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More than welcome
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
43 views and NOT EVEN 1 CAN ANSWER????!!!!!!!
DefJamz said:
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
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It's better to cook using oem as a cab takes more space i.e space for the cab then space for the installed version so can take nearly double the space.
There should be no speed differences.
Pagepool of 32Mb is going to lead to very little memory left for programs to run in
P.S don't expect somebody to answer your question within 1 day, It's only just over 8 hours and you post a comment like that.
OEM is better, but if you delete the CABs after the installation there won't be wasted disk space... it's equal!
thanx shaks. appreciate the answer. does official rom has some sort of 'build' as the custom ones have? what are rgu and dsm and why does bepe tools delete them when they are necessary in rom building?
not equal!!!!
cabs will install after first boot. and than resarts.
sometime its needed read by 100 persons for get an answer.
or you want get answers like "google your question", "search your question"
or the best "i dont know .."
but excuise me, if you have donate million of millions for searchable putah's in madagarkaaaaar...
@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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Hmm, maybe he had a bad day (which doesn't justiy his actions); I checked his other posts and they were quite normal.
Other than that, the info he was asking was in the stickies, which shows that he was expecting us to spoonfeed him, instead of reading up.
i do NOT need to be spoonfed. i read through even looked up wiki mind you. but sifting through pages after pages looking for answers doesnt help. i ONLY ask as a last resort. i have learnt to "arghh go to hell with it" if chefs locked their rom. it's just like Microsoft. take it or leave it. i know how to edit a custom/official rom. BUUUUUT, i started out with the old version. im learning how to use ervius kitchen and still am. ROM development is supposed to be open and shared. when mondilv decided to leave bcos chefs were locking their rom yet still asked for donations in their sig, i understood & agreed completely. locking a rom only serves to justify "it's mine and there's nothing you can do to try and hack my hack. only i have the key. if there's bugs, i can try to rectify it bcos you're too dumb to create something just like mine" it's stingy dont you think so? it's NOT hacking a hack. it's improving it. so learners like myself can compare how custom roms work. why does this work on this but not that? etc etc..
all of us start somewhere. the experts included. the difference is how well we can read/translate codes. i for one, learn by comparing. and there's nothing to compare if roms are locked.
so thank you.
Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
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Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
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i agree. but some folks crazy like myself, wishes to remove/add some stuff via oem. and yeah, i have been reflashing hundreds of times due to me NOT being happy that something small didnt turn out correctly as how i want it to be. imagine this, i rather extract the contents of a cab (manilas or those files that writes themselves into /windows) and paste. why? bcos i hate seeing programs building up into the 'remove program' feature. why? bcos all that i installed in my own modified custom rom is what i need. which is why i prefer oem. but now it's extremely rare to find one that isnt locked. i hate audio/images/samples/programs that i know i wont use at all. i rather remove them and save the extra valuable space for other programs.
im still a very long way from being a complete chef. but sadly, locked custom rom has hindered my progress and now i have to just like everyone else, swallow the pill and deal with it.
edit: and i thought i was the only one grumbling abt locked roms.
dont forget one thing about your grrrrr'ring of locked roms:
you cant get any better reason to start cooking and being a master chef as locked-roms-reason.
i startet with downlading all roms for my device (sometimes for other=bricked)
and hope, that the next time it will exist a combine of bepe and diamond-project. at least, it would not get an equal combine roms and i have to start again with cooking (after long break becauce bricking) roms. the best start could be recooking and deleting not needed/wanted applications. but both cookers locked there roms. o.k. ... ? !!!
now i am in a position to cook that what i really want ... not really,
from 100% i give me 95% of really want and the rest 5% are random.
the most problem is getting new stuff or stable versions of existing stuff.
and here come the other cooker or members with power of interesting to upload for volks.
forgot the locked cookers/chefs, they have do their really good things long time ago and they lost a little bit the spirit of this forum.
i can understand, that some chefs/masters dont give for 546 times the same answer of a question two thread before and five threads before and ...
and one thing helps me really good, other xda-forums with using google-translator. this is the mother of xda-forums, but dont forget uncle, brother, sister and very good looking cuisine ...
have questions. than ask. sometime have wait and sometime have nerv and nerv and nerv again (sorrry, nerv is german, dont know english word and google-translator is on an other tab ..
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There should be no speed differences.
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From my experience, there are can be some speed differences.
An OEM with modules (can be UPXed) files will be faster, and take up less room than an exe installed by a cab. And it'll launch faster.
Dear cookers on XDA,
I am a kinda rookie on the cooking area. And i would love to make my own ROM with my stuff and etc in it. But its pretty hard with minimum info on the internet. I have searched many times on the internet for a good tutorial how to cook your own rom, or how to edit a rom. Only found 1 pretty good tutorial but it wasnt a perfect one with the needed details.
Now my question is, can somebody make a good tutorial how to edit/make/cook a rom?
With like everything in it, like add/remove your apps/cabs change your splash screen etc. I would realy love that!
I think im not the only one who likes this, a good tutorial about cooking!
So i hope that somebody can make one!
Yours,
Ruubs
(Sorry for my bad english)
The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
Thank you,
but i allready used that tutorial, and that one is not the best one, much bugs in it. and i also need a tutorial or instructions how to edit an already cooked rom.
and i also used that 6.5 kitchen, its a nice one but the kitchen issnt ready yet. and i cant edit an already cooked rom with it.
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The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
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not all cooked roms are for edit.
some cookers minimize it so much for performance or ram,
that the roms cant be edit.
and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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...and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
you got a point, but some people like me, just want their own apps and other crap in it, just made for your own.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
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In the Diamond ROM development section is a thread 'noob kitchen'.
It started about someone asking for a light ROM and how to add his own stuff, it ended up me and him discovering how to cook and describing the first steps at how to start and the things to do afterwards.
The short answer:
Get a simple kitchen to start with, bebe's own kitchen on platformrebuilder is a good start (visual-kitchen is complete but can be complex if you just start).
Dump a stock rom with it (bebe has excellent example-videos on his forum) and start playing.
With the new rom-unlocker you can dump more existing roms, but it is VERY important to remember the wishes of the original cook. Don't go posting it around.
If you get into the more 'advanced' stuff like porting os-builds a complex kitchen with more tools ready like ervius visual-kitchen is good.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
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no problem.
if i could make a people happy with a rom that was generated by deleting files/entries here and there or putting files/entries here and there by respecting the syntax, that was finding out by really roots, than is o.k. for me.
if we look back than we have to say that we all marked roms with our names.
only some people, not much, are the really cookers (roots). the most of them stopped their works and change it back to their life (study finished, wife comes back from hospital, but not alone, a small think, i think it called baby
we need people like you describe ... cause changing my name to his name means that their spend time to learn/understand structure and syntax. some new ideas can grown up.
the new kind of kitchens can do seperate languages, xips, roms, syss and oems by using "grafical interface". but when we do a snapshot of this kitchens, you get a better dos-optic by using more mouse for adding/deleting completly folders. no details. enough good for beginners, but a step back for not-beginners. i think, its time to say, that kitchens couldn't be a one-man-project, lets help you and seperate the works. with deep-detail-love.
for beginners i say "respect the search-functions, dont use a specified devicename like diamond touch blablabla. but use htc as devicename for more tips. the cook-rules/syntax are nearly the same for all htc's"
for no-beginners with strong answers i want to say "if you angry to reading a question now for 100 times ... nobody kills you, if you NOT answer!!!"
I've been looking for new rom to suite my diamond.
I want 6.5 cause of the improved behavior of scrolling and since its a little more fingerfriendly in the menus.
The issue is that every rom is so tweaked that after 5Mins I get memory usage of 90%!
Therefore I'd like to find a basic WM6.5 that hasnt been touched and tweaked,
So I can use it with my own software customizations and thats all.
I dont like the tweaks so much since it kills the memory and cause problems to softwares like IGO and Opera which needs a bit more memory.
Thanks!
looking for same here..
I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.
Don't Panic said:
This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.
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I've PMed you, take a look and enjoy!
What I have recommended is a Rom that has been customized but it consumes very little memory and it's fast and stable.
Please can I have link. Thanks
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I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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Heh. Well, your sig just gave you away.
im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me
Use lobsterdave's easy to follow kitchen and cook your own.
Much easier and you won't have anything you don't need.
as the post above states
make it yourself....that way you get what you want...and not what a chef thinks you want.
i'd like to cook one myself but I couldnt find a basic rom with the latest wm6.5
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im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me
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Im sure you're well aware that both WM6.5 and the tf3d2 (for diamond anyway) are both in beta/experimental stages (Hence, there is no such thing as 'official 6.5' atm), and that even if you don't tweak them they are bound to have memory leaks? (tf3d was a memory hogger for 6.1 btw INMHO) Just the fact that you found no 6.5 rom to suit your needs of more free ram, is already a clue dude.
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i'd like to cook one myself but I couldnt find a basic rom with the latest wm6.5
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I think you're misunderstanding.
You don't need a base ROM. It's all included in the kitchen along with all the packages. You can of course create your own packages and add what you want to the kitchen.
Then after you've selected what you want in your kitchen and what you don't want you can cook it into a ROM. Before you cook you don't have a base ROM, you have a whole load of files in their raw format ready for packaging into the ROM.
As I said, use lobsterdave's kitchen which is exceptionally easy to follow and has instructions.
Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?
donsalari said:
Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?
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Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311
Can you PM for clean WM 6.5 ROM?I'd like get one as well...
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Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311
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God bless you!!