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8GB MicroSDHC Card

Hi -
I purchased the 8GB MicroSDHC card from Verizon a week ago. It worked fine on my AT&T Tilt for a few days and than it lost all information! Fortunately, I was able to restore from backup, and it seems to be OK again. Here's the strange part: even though the original files and directories are gone, the card still counts them in used memory. I.e., the used memory is about 200 MB more than it should be, the amount of space I was using before the card crashed. This applies whether I check the memory on the device, connected by USB, or with the Card Adapter that came with the card.
Any ideas what might be causing this and how to recover the used memory short of reformatting the card?
Thanks!

If you could tell us what you did for it to crash it would help
You probably tried to partition it or something...?
Looks like you will have to format the whole card.
Maybe there is a simple way to do this but here is how i would do, if it helps :
- install WM5Storage on your PDA main memory
- start wm5storage with the option memory card and connect your PDA to your PC
Activsync then wont be sync'ing and your memory card will be seen from your PC as an USB-key. Open it on your PC and check to make sure it is your memory card that you see (and not your PDA main memory).
Then use whatever format tool to format your "USB key" with FAT like format, for example you can use HPtool (be carefull to format the key and not another drive !!!).
After this do not forget to turn off wm5storage, otherwise you will not be able to "see" the memory card on PDA side...
Hope it helps, let us know...

by the way maybe you could try this :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I've used it sometimes when i had started to format a hard drive instead of an usb key by mistake.
Windows was asking for formating everytime i wanted to open the hard drive folder. However, using this Testdisk tool, i was able to mount the hard drive and recover everything including my photos and music and stuff... Maybe you want to try this awesome tool, plus it is free and OpenSource.
Use wm5storage tool to use your PDA as an usb-key, then use Testdisk on this usb-drive, it might be able to see, list and recover all the "lost" files and heal the whole partition at same time.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll post again when I have the chance to try them -

No luck
Had a similar problem with my Kaiser (HTC Rom). Yesterday I did something (don't know if it was memmaid - my guess, because otherwise I just installed some cabs I had previously installed in my Wizard with no problem) and my SanDisk 6 GB MicroSD was completely 'erased".
I just noticed after the Kaiser had created new folders over it (Application Data, Cookies, History and Temporary Intenet Folders). My assumption is that something destroyed my partition table (that's why I suspect memmaid, it may have cleaned something wrong) and now I have another partition over the old one.
I tried file recovery and found 1 GB good of files, but there were 5 Gigs on the card... I really wanted to find "program files" so I didn't have to re-install lots of stuff, but no luck.
Tried Testdisk as suggested above, but it never detects any partition, not even the current one. I guess I will have to reformat it and re-do all stuff.
Well, I may be saying lots of dumb stuff, but that's my guess.
Thanks if there is any possible help in this...

Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?

Guys need advise do you have to do any patch to be able to use 4-8GB mini SDHC card on your PDA?
I have a Asus P535. Have asked their support site and the reply I got is the max supported is only 4GB.

I believe I've read in more than one place that the Kaiser may support up to 32 Gig, which is the MicroSD maximum. But I may be wrong...
Fact is this has never happened with my Wizard and its 1 Gig MiniSD. Now I'm gonna increase backup and cloning so I don't have to reinstall everything...
But I'll check if there is a patch anyway. Thanks.

I am able to use Sandisk microSDHC 8GB can on Asus P535.
But need a micro adapter to miniSD

mbernstein said:
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -

Thanks. I tried that at the time to no avail. I did have to reformat, and then reinstall everything... Now I'm using Sprite Backup, so everything including Storage Card is backed up in case this thing happens again.
And/Or said:
Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
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It could be WINXP patch
I have the Sandisk 8G , it came with a small USB reader and all was working fine. However my ASUS W5 laptop also has a built-in SD slot so I installed a patch issued by Microsoft to make it HCSD compatible, and it read and write it OK but then I suddenly got the same problem that you've described here.
The disk goes blank but the files still occupy the space, even attempting to reformat the card in the built-in slot will ignore that space,i.e it shows only 5G card.
But reformatting using the small USB card reader was fine and from now on I only use the cardreader to read and write and everything is OK. In my view the XP patch was causing that problem

8gb sdhc problems

i just got a new sdhc card from microcenter 8gb. when i downloaded the sdhc program and installed it on my phone everything worked fine. the only thing was the card registered in the memory manager only 3.6 gb on the motorola q (my phone). i disregarded it and used a usb card reader to sync my library from windows media player on the computer. when i put the card back in the q, and updated the library, it only showed about 20% of what the computers says is on the card. when i went to the file manager, i could see all of the artists though but with no songs inside the folder. i found one song that i cant see in media player on the phone and tried to play it from file manager but it says critical error: cannot play item due to low or failing memory. ive tried resetting multiple times. this cannot be normal but can someone give me something to try or is anyone else having these problems

Here are 2 basic MS KB that will address windows issue
These two KB's may address your Windows issue, hince, could ultimately fix your phone issue; Requires that a patch be downloaded from microsoft, Microsoft KB923293 to use SDHC in a built-in SD slot for laptop/desktops. If you go with a card over 4gb, you will need Microsoft KB934428 (XP doesnt recognize over 4gb of SDHC).

im trying to run an sdhc card on my phone not my computer. so if you have a 'kb' for that tell me but i doubt it
i have windows mobile 5.0 on a moto q

Help Me!
hitittome873 said:
im trying to run an sdhc card on my phone not my computer. so if you have a 'kb' for that tell me but i doubt it
i have windows mobile 5.0 on a moto q
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Im in the same boat as you my friend have you found something to get it working?

i've found nothing...i hate how this doesnt work. I hope somehow they will make a flawless sdhc cab i can put on my phone and it will solve my problems. for now ill have to hope for a phone to come out with sdhc reading capabilities

hitittome873 said:
i've found nothing...i hate how this doesnt work. I hope somehow they will make a flawless sdhc cab i can put on my phone and it will solve my problems. for now ill have to hope for a phone to come out with sdhc reading capabilities
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I have the same problem as you...
My silver Moto Q only reads 3.63 Gb of a Patriot 8GB mini SDHC card.- Any help (a working .cab) would be greatly appreciated... Regards...

have u tried to format it to fat32?

hitittome873 said:
i just got a new sdhc card from microcenter 8gb. when i downloaded the sdhc program and installed it on my phone everything worked fine. the only thing was the card registered in the memory manager only 3.6 gb on the motorola q (my phone). i disregarded it and used a usb card reader to sync my library from windows media player on the computer. when i put the card back in the q, and updated the library, it only showed about 20% of what the computers says is on the card. when i went to the file manager, i could see all of the artists though but with no songs inside the folder. i found one song that i cant see in media player on the phone and tried to play it from file manager but it says critical error: cannot play item due to low or failing memory. ive tried resetting multiple times. this cannot be normal but can someone give me something to try or is anyone else having these problems
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Hi-
Check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1661816&postcount=1
and - in this order - these posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2569427&postcount=370
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2570067&postcount=371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1766401&postcount=93
for a possible solution to your problem.
Good luck!

anyone having probelms with the tilt and patriot micro sd 8gb cards? is patriot a good and reliable brand?

Missing Storage Card

I recently upgraded from the Tmobile 6.0 ROM to Rickwyatt's v24 Opera Rom. I followed the instructions posted for "Newcomers" by Mikey1022. Everything work great I really like the 6.1 ROM. But, the Dash no longer sees the 1 GB SD storage card. It should be showing up as "Storage Card" in File Explorer", right? I've looked in every folder and don't see it anywhere. I don't see it on the Dash screen or over the PC using ActiveSync. Oddley enough, when I enable Bluetooth explorer I can see a Storage Card listed in the Menu of File Explorer. When I click on the Storage Card link it takes me to a Bluetooth folder, not what I'm looking for.
I've been using this card for a couple of years and it was working fine before the 6.1 upgrade. I have since tested it in a desk top and in a Verizon Razer phone, it works properly at both places.
I reviewed some other missing storage card type threads in this forum, but never found a solution that works for me. I've even tried formating the card, both as FAT 16 and FAT32. Niether worked, I'm back to FAT 16 now. Some forum suggestions were to reformat the card in the Dash using Resco Explorer, but how do you do that when you can't see the card?
I tried reloading V24 Opera, didn't work. I've tried all varieties of reboots, soft resets, hard resets. Nothing works.
Any suggestions? What am I missing? Is this an issue with V24, should I try another ROM?

Try the Kavana Rom to see if it's the rom or the card?
When you plug your phone to active sync, can you see your card through that?

That is weird because I am running version 24 and it seems to be working fine with me well my storage card seems fine...

Same as jdog never had probs on v. 24

OK, I tried the Kavana ROM. I still can't see the SD card. No, I can't see the card through ActiveSync either.
I guess I'm in the market for a new card, dang it.

Who is the manufacture of it?

i have 4 cards, all different brands and they all show up in v24. maybe a new card would be best...you can get a 1gb for about $5 now

I had a card do that before, so I put it in another phone and it was recognized. I ended up reformatting it and it started working again on my phone.

I bought a great big 2 gb card today, stuck it in, and nothin. Still could not see the storage card in file explorer. The card is a PNY.
So, I flashed back to the T-Mobile 6.0 ROM. Got it from their website. Anyway, tried the old 1 gb card and the new 2 gb card. Still cannot see a storage card in File Explorer or through ActiveSync.
My problem is apparently not with the ROM. I am doing (or did) something wrong. As I said earlier the card was working prior to upgrading to the 6.1 ROM. Is there a setting somewhere to tell the Dash it has a storage card in it. I thought it as a plug and play type thing.
Could it be a hardware issue? I really don't want to crack the shell open looking for loose wires or something.
Any ideas would be appreciated!

PNY cards a crappy. Sandisk it my friend.

The original 1 gb card is a Sandisk.
Both cards are working. And I guess the roms are working to.
What else could be going wrong?

hojo2000 said:
The original 1 gb card is a Sandisk.
Both cards are working. And I guess the roms are working to.
What else could be going wrong?
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Have you tryed putting any of your cards into a card reader on a computer to see if recognised 'just going over every possibility your cards may be corrupted?'
Sorry just read your post again and it was recognised.
Strange as i have multiple cards of make and sizes and there all recognised.

Long shot try some compressed air. Maybe some crud got in the slot for the mini SD.

take the card...stick it in a pc/laptop and use something like partition magic or paragon to format the card to fat16 or 32. once formatted see if the phone sees it.
other than that...buy a better card...kingston have never failed me nor has sandisk
edit: oh yea...when you format it, make sure you give it a drive letter (such as f...if i dont do that, the phone wont see the card.

Flashing via SD card assistance

I've got a Tilt 2 with hard spl and can flash from my desktop no problem. I'd like to get the flashing via SD card going, but it's hanging.
I've got the nbh file copied to the root of my SD card, get the phone into bootloader, but I see a message flash up about no image. It's very quick though and then the phone hangs in the bootloader. A soft reset fixes it and the phone boots up.
I'm clearly missing something and can't figure out for the life of me what it is.
The image file is named correctly. It was copied to the phone through WMDC to the SD card. Should I put the phone into disk mode a copy the image over?
The SD card is formated in Fat 32.
Any thoughts/Advise?
Thanks.

maybe..
i had this issue before - check your .nbh file with total commander, or put it in your pc and check it. if you name it .nbh with the wm file explorer, it actually ends up RHODIMG.nbh.nbh - solution is just to remove one .nbh!

:::Whimper:::
I'm having this exact same problem!
My RHODIMG file is named correctly and in the root directory (there is nothing else on the SD card either), but I get that same EXTREMELY BRIEF message about no IMG file and then it hangs at the bootloader screen with 'Serial' in the white box on the bottom.
I've even tried using Mobile Flasher, but nothing is working. I
What am I missing??? I've tried it many times already, formatted my card a few times and loaded the RHODIMG file again, but nothing! My Rhodium will NOT connect via USB anymore, so I need to flash via SD card.
Help!
Debbie

I actually don't even rename the file, it's already got that name from the rom. It's e2 manilla 2.5 rom.
I'll try and transfer the file to the card when the phone in disk mode and see if that makes a difference...

O-M-G(!), this is *so* freakin' wacky!!!
I just switched SD cards to one that was larger (8GB rather than the 2GB), that had tons of stuff on it, then copied the RHODIMG file in the root, and then ran 'enablerapinew.cab' again, just for the hell of it...
Damned device found the RHODIMG file there from the bootloader and the update ran as expected, but not on the 2GB card with nothing else on it! WTH?!
Device says that the update is complete, so I'm booting up now and will do a few resets and then perform the tedious task of setting up my Tilt 2, etc.
Don't know whether the cab (thought I only had to run this once when Hard SPLing?) or the different card was what caused it to work, but I hope this helps someone else with the same problem. Whew!
Debbie
...Who's back in business!

SOLVED!
I don't know what caused the magic, but I was able to flash from SD card... FINALLY!
Here's what I did: Flashing Via SD Card Assistance
Hope this helps others!
Debbie

No, this did not work for me. I tried installing the cab again, but no luck, just passes on by saying no image.

Delete image off sd card, reformat FAT32 and copy image back on... I have had this problem myself, it seems that when the .nbh file copies it doesn't register on the card properly or something. Either deleting the file then re-copying seems to work but I still like to reformat too..... DON'T just copy over the top of the image file... THIS DOESN'T WORK... leads to a lot of hair pulling frustration...
Cheers...

So I tried a reformat of the card, just a quick one, not full. Still didn't work. I downloaded another image to try out, the lastest Energy rom, to flash on a completely blank card. That didn't work.
So, I went and got an older card, 8 gig, that is currently being used in a camera. The one I use now is a 16 gig card. This one worked fine.
Conclusions being perhaps a 16 gig card won't work for flashing?

brands
i have heard of certain brands having sizes that didn't work for flashing, for whatever reason. It was a long time ago on my kaiser, so i don't remember which it was, but kingston 2gb comes to mind. like i said, don't know if that is accurate, but there definitely were some that just wouldn't work. perhaps a different brand 16gb?

Well, I used the other memory stick, a Scandisk and this worked fine. Must be something with the 16 gig Kingston disk as it just will not work.

tp2 memory card issue

i recently bought a tp2 with a 16gb card from a very nice n helpful guy from here. Hi JV. i am having a little problem with the memory card in that the only way i have successfully transfered data in working form has been via active sync. all other ways i have tried, phone mem to card transfer, card reader, download cabs to microsd dont work. can anyone shed any light on this? installing to microsd doesnt seem to work anymore either

i copied a film across and it would play in coreplayer for 2 minutes before freezing and if you try skipping ahead to another point in the movie it says the file is corrupted and wont allow me to skip

does anyone have an idea what i can do to sort this problem out? generally cabs will not install or download successfully to the memory card. the card itself is 1.2gb full of 16.

tcSPVm3100 said:
does anyone have an idea what i can do to sort this problem out? generally cabs will not install or download successfully to the memory card. the card itself is 1.2gb full of 16.
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Not all 16 gb cards are the same. Try formatting it; if that doesn't work, the card is probably not of good enough quality.

definately try formatiing. Just make sure you save whatever it is you have somewhere else.