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8GB MicroSDHC Card

Hi -
I purchased the 8GB MicroSDHC card from Verizon a week ago. It worked fine on my AT&T Tilt for a few days and than it lost all information! Fortunately, I was able to restore from backup, and it seems to be OK again. Here's the strange part: even though the original files and directories are gone, the card still counts them in used memory. I.e., the used memory is about 200 MB more than it should be, the amount of space I was using before the card crashed. This applies whether I check the memory on the device, connected by USB, or with the Card Adapter that came with the card.
Any ideas what might be causing this and how to recover the used memory short of reformatting the card?
Thanks!

If you could tell us what you did for it to crash it would help
You probably tried to partition it or something...?
Looks like you will have to format the whole card.
Maybe there is a simple way to do this but here is how i would do, if it helps :
- install WM5Storage on your PDA main memory
- start wm5storage with the option memory card and connect your PDA to your PC
Activsync then wont be sync'ing and your memory card will be seen from your PC as an USB-key. Open it on your PC and check to make sure it is your memory card that you see (and not your PDA main memory).
Then use whatever format tool to format your "USB key" with FAT like format, for example you can use HPtool (be carefull to format the key and not another drive !!!).
After this do not forget to turn off wm5storage, otherwise you will not be able to "see" the memory card on PDA side...
Hope it helps, let us know...

by the way maybe you could try this :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I've used it sometimes when i had started to format a hard drive instead of an usb key by mistake.
Windows was asking for formating everytime i wanted to open the hard drive folder. However, using this Testdisk tool, i was able to mount the hard drive and recover everything including my photos and music and stuff... Maybe you want to try this awesome tool, plus it is free and OpenSource.
Use wm5storage tool to use your PDA as an usb-key, then use Testdisk on this usb-drive, it might be able to see, list and recover all the "lost" files and heal the whole partition at same time.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll post again when I have the chance to try them -

No luck
Had a similar problem with my Kaiser (HTC Rom). Yesterday I did something (don't know if it was memmaid - my guess, because otherwise I just installed some cabs I had previously installed in my Wizard with no problem) and my SanDisk 6 GB MicroSD was completely 'erased".
I just noticed after the Kaiser had created new folders over it (Application Data, Cookies, History and Temporary Intenet Folders). My assumption is that something destroyed my partition table (that's why I suspect memmaid, it may have cleaned something wrong) and now I have another partition over the old one.
I tried file recovery and found 1 GB good of files, but there were 5 Gigs on the card... I really wanted to find "program files" so I didn't have to re-install lots of stuff, but no luck.
Tried Testdisk as suggested above, but it never detects any partition, not even the current one. I guess I will have to reformat it and re-do all stuff.
Well, I may be saying lots of dumb stuff, but that's my guess.
Thanks if there is any possible help in this...

Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?

Guys need advise do you have to do any patch to be able to use 4-8GB mini SDHC card on your PDA?
I have a Asus P535. Have asked their support site and the reply I got is the max supported is only 4GB.

I believe I've read in more than one place that the Kaiser may support up to 32 Gig, which is the MicroSD maximum. But I may be wrong...
Fact is this has never happened with my Wizard and its 1 Gig MiniSD. Now I'm gonna increase backup and cloning so I don't have to reinstall everything...
But I'll check if there is a patch anyway. Thanks.

I am able to use Sandisk microSDHC 8GB can on Asus P535.
But need a micro adapter to miniSD

mbernstein said:
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -

Thanks. I tried that at the time to no avail. I did have to reformat, and then reinstall everything... Now I'm using Sprite Backup, so everything including Storage Card is backed up in case this thing happens again.
And/Or said:
Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
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It could be WINXP patch
I have the Sandisk 8G , it came with a small USB reader and all was working fine. However my ASUS W5 laptop also has a built-in SD slot so I installed a patch issued by Microsoft to make it HCSD compatible, and it read and write it OK but then I suddenly got the same problem that you've described here.
The disk goes blank but the files still occupy the space, even attempting to reformat the card in the built-in slot will ignore that space,i.e it shows only 5G card.
But reformatting using the small USB card reader was fine and from now on I only use the cardreader to read and write and everything is OK. In my view the XP patch was causing that problem

Strange SD card Problem

I have been using Touch 4.02 with an 8gb card for ages now with no troubles then yesterday the storage card is no longer recognised by the phone? I tried the usual soft reset, taking the card out wiping it put it back in still no joy.
Reinstalled the sdhc cab file didnt work, Have just re-flashed with the new diamond look a like rom and still it aint recognising the card.
Has anyone got any ideas??

mikehulme1983 said:
I have been using Touch 4.02 with an 8gb card for ages now with no troubles then yesterday the storage card is no longer recognised by the phone? I tried the usual soft reset, taking the card out wiping it put it back in still no joy.
Reinstalled the sdhc cab file didnt work, Have just re-flashed with the new diamond look a like rom and still it aint recognising the card.
Has anyone got any ideas??
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Probably your card is broken....
Try to insert it in a card reader and see if it recognizes the card....

Yeh will have to wait till I get home not sure my memory card supports SDHC though?

I have a similar problem, and like you I've been happily using an 8gb card for a while, but in the last week it has stopped working correctly.
Occasionally it is fine, but most of the time access to the card is either very slow or it doesn't appear at all.
I've tried the following but with no success:
- Using another MicroSD card (2gb)
- Reading the cards in a card reader and they are fine
- Reinstalling Artemis Touch 4.02 WM6.1
- Formatting the card (FAT32)
- Shimming the MicroSD card with bits of cardboard as I've read there can be a loose fit
- Cleaning the contacts on the card reader
- Pulling the contact pins out a bit to get a better fit
Does anyone have any ideas of anything else to try?

Does WM5torage work?

I did the followings to make my 4GB Micro SD usable by my Artemis:
1-flashed it to FAT32 in my laptop (I Had to format my laptop partition D of my HDD to FAT32 to make the microSD recognizable by my NTFS system).
2-copied the "system folder" from my older 512 MGB card as it is (hidden) to the root of my 4GB
3-The 4GB is readable by my artemis by now.
4-To make sure the crad will be working good in the future, I installed the "Flashcard" Cab in my Artemis and reflashed the card to FAT32, 512 Bytes 4KB clusters.
The card is just fine under Artemis windows, but I gatta take it out when flashing any new ROMs or Radio.
Hope that'd help you.

uniqueboy said:
Does WM5torage work?
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No - WM5torage behaves the same ... i.e. occasionally works (if the phone can see the card), but most of the time it just reports an error

It is deffothe memory card just put my old 2gb back in the phone and it worked, I have tried the 8gb in my PC card reader and in y camcorder that takes sdhc and neither recognised it.
This explains why my phone started goin so slow it would take ages to do anything then the memory card was unrecognised a few days later.
Im guessing there is no way to repair these?

If you can't read it, you can't do anything...
R.I.P.... :|
Cheers

Gutted oh well

not as gutted as i am ... looks like i'll have to buy a new phone!

Just try to format it by these criteria
FAT32, 512 Bytes 4KB clusters
then let us know.

dude dont panic try to recover the card first before you format it. i am sure there are some imp data there eh?
use a disk recovery utility on ur pc
my best choice is Recover My Files http://www.recovermyfiles.com/
if you are using windows os also try to run scan disk
use pocket mechanic then on ur ppc
let us know how well u do

Sorry for posting...Wrong thread...

Storage Card Issues ...

hello everyone!
since i bought a microSDHC storage card (4GB class 6) for my hermes, i am having problems with accessing the files i store on it....
i usually format the card in the device (using StorageTools or using WM5Storage in WindowsXP) and afterwards copy various files and folders on the card. when at first, everything seems tow ork great, after some time i am having troubles accessing the files. when trying to access the storage card with TOTAL COMANDER for example, i get following error:
"Error 13 changing to dir"
after reseting the device or ejecting and inserting the storage card again, it seems to work again...
is anyone familiar with such kind of problem?
is my storage card broken?
regards,krz

Hum!
I think you should first repair your disk with CHKDSK on Windows.
Try it and report.
Cheers

thank you komanguy!
i should have added, that i already did that too.
CHKDSK did report couple of errors (sorry, i forgot which) and fixed it.
after that, i formated.
everything seemed ok, and the out of a sudden... problems again!
i will try some more things and will report back.
if anyone else got a hint, i would be grateful!
regards.krz

Maybe SDHC drivers are not proper on your device? Try partitioning your SD card.
Regards,
Carty..

card readers ....
another thing, that really pisses me off is, that SD card readers dont seem to be able to read from those cards... i tried it with the adapter from micro to normal size SD card, no succeys at all. friend of mine having the same problems....
so the only way to read/write that microSDHC is via the pda! and this is superslow!! i really wonder, why i got myself a class 6 microSDHC....?
anyone knows a cardreader, that REALLY works (fast) with microSDHC cards?
thx.krz

not all card readers support the high capacity cards.. need to find you one that does.. I bought a 1gb A-Date microSD a while back that came with a tiny USB adapter that works flawlessly with my current 8gb card.. its nice having the adapter on my keychain whenver I need to dump files to and from it. back to the problem at hand.. the contacts might be dirty.. I would blow some compressed air in it and try that then if that didn't work find some stiff paper, cut it to the microSD width.. saturate it with 90% alcohol but not dripping and run it in and out of the slot a few times.. hope this helps

8gb sdhc problems

i just got a new sdhc card from microcenter 8gb. when i downloaded the sdhc program and installed it on my phone everything worked fine. the only thing was the card registered in the memory manager only 3.6 gb on the motorola q (my phone). i disregarded it and used a usb card reader to sync my library from windows media player on the computer. when i put the card back in the q, and updated the library, it only showed about 20% of what the computers says is on the card. when i went to the file manager, i could see all of the artists though but with no songs inside the folder. i found one song that i cant see in media player on the phone and tried to play it from file manager but it says critical error: cannot play item due to low or failing memory. ive tried resetting multiple times. this cannot be normal but can someone give me something to try or is anyone else having these problems

Here are 2 basic MS KB that will address windows issue
These two KB's may address your Windows issue, hince, could ultimately fix your phone issue; Requires that a patch be downloaded from microsoft, Microsoft KB923293 to use SDHC in a built-in SD slot for laptop/desktops. If you go with a card over 4gb, you will need Microsoft KB934428 (XP doesnt recognize over 4gb of SDHC).

im trying to run an sdhc card on my phone not my computer. so if you have a 'kb' for that tell me but i doubt it
i have windows mobile 5.0 on a moto q

Help Me!
hitittome873 said:
im trying to run an sdhc card on my phone not my computer. so if you have a 'kb' for that tell me but i doubt it
i have windows mobile 5.0 on a moto q
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Im in the same boat as you my friend have you found something to get it working?

i've found nothing...i hate how this doesnt work. I hope somehow they will make a flawless sdhc cab i can put on my phone and it will solve my problems. for now ill have to hope for a phone to come out with sdhc reading capabilities

hitittome873 said:
i've found nothing...i hate how this doesnt work. I hope somehow they will make a flawless sdhc cab i can put on my phone and it will solve my problems. for now ill have to hope for a phone to come out with sdhc reading capabilities
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I have the same problem as you...
My silver Moto Q only reads 3.63 Gb of a Patriot 8GB mini SDHC card.- Any help (a working .cab) would be greatly appreciated... Regards...

have u tried to format it to fat32?

hitittome873 said:
i just got a new sdhc card from microcenter 8gb. when i downloaded the sdhc program and installed it on my phone everything worked fine. the only thing was the card registered in the memory manager only 3.6 gb on the motorola q (my phone). i disregarded it and used a usb card reader to sync my library from windows media player on the computer. when i put the card back in the q, and updated the library, it only showed about 20% of what the computers says is on the card. when i went to the file manager, i could see all of the artists though but with no songs inside the folder. i found one song that i cant see in media player on the phone and tried to play it from file manager but it says critical error: cannot play item due to low or failing memory. ive tried resetting multiple times. this cannot be normal but can someone give me something to try or is anyone else having these problems
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Hi-
Check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1661816&postcount=1
and - in this order - these posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2569427&postcount=370
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2570067&postcount=371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1766401&postcount=93
for a possible solution to your problem.
Good luck!

anyone having probelms with the tilt and patriot micro sd 8gb cards? is patriot a good and reliable brand?

Missing Storage Card

I recently upgraded from the Tmobile 6.0 ROM to Rickwyatt's v24 Opera Rom. I followed the instructions posted for "Newcomers" by Mikey1022. Everything work great I really like the 6.1 ROM. But, the Dash no longer sees the 1 GB SD storage card. It should be showing up as "Storage Card" in File Explorer", right? I've looked in every folder and don't see it anywhere. I don't see it on the Dash screen or over the PC using ActiveSync. Oddley enough, when I enable Bluetooth explorer I can see a Storage Card listed in the Menu of File Explorer. When I click on the Storage Card link it takes me to a Bluetooth folder, not what I'm looking for.
I've been using this card for a couple of years and it was working fine before the 6.1 upgrade. I have since tested it in a desk top and in a Verizon Razer phone, it works properly at both places.
I reviewed some other missing storage card type threads in this forum, but never found a solution that works for me. I've even tried formating the card, both as FAT 16 and FAT32. Niether worked, I'm back to FAT 16 now. Some forum suggestions were to reformat the card in the Dash using Resco Explorer, but how do you do that when you can't see the card?
I tried reloading V24 Opera, didn't work. I've tried all varieties of reboots, soft resets, hard resets. Nothing works.
Any suggestions? What am I missing? Is this an issue with V24, should I try another ROM?

Try the Kavana Rom to see if it's the rom or the card?
When you plug your phone to active sync, can you see your card through that?

That is weird because I am running version 24 and it seems to be working fine with me well my storage card seems fine...

Same as jdog never had probs on v. 24

OK, I tried the Kavana ROM. I still can't see the SD card. No, I can't see the card through ActiveSync either.
I guess I'm in the market for a new card, dang it.

Who is the manufacture of it?

i have 4 cards, all different brands and they all show up in v24. maybe a new card would be best...you can get a 1gb for about $5 now

I had a card do that before, so I put it in another phone and it was recognized. I ended up reformatting it and it started working again on my phone.

I bought a great big 2 gb card today, stuck it in, and nothin. Still could not see the storage card in file explorer. The card is a PNY.
So, I flashed back to the T-Mobile 6.0 ROM. Got it from their website. Anyway, tried the old 1 gb card and the new 2 gb card. Still cannot see a storage card in File Explorer or through ActiveSync.
My problem is apparently not with the ROM. I am doing (or did) something wrong. As I said earlier the card was working prior to upgrading to the 6.1 ROM. Is there a setting somewhere to tell the Dash it has a storage card in it. I thought it as a plug and play type thing.
Could it be a hardware issue? I really don't want to crack the shell open looking for loose wires or something.
Any ideas would be appreciated!

PNY cards a crappy. Sandisk it my friend.

The original 1 gb card is a Sandisk.
Both cards are working. And I guess the roms are working to.
What else could be going wrong?

hojo2000 said:
The original 1 gb card is a Sandisk.
Both cards are working. And I guess the roms are working to.
What else could be going wrong?
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Have you tryed putting any of your cards into a card reader on a computer to see if recognised 'just going over every possibility your cards may be corrupted?'
Sorry just read your post again and it was recognised.
Strange as i have multiple cards of make and sizes and there all recognised.

Long shot try some compressed air. Maybe some crud got in the slot for the mini SD.

take the card...stick it in a pc/laptop and use something like partition magic or paragon to format the card to fat16 or 32. once formatted see if the phone sees it.
other than that...buy a better card...kingston have never failed me nor has sandisk
edit: oh yea...when you format it, make sure you give it a drive letter (such as f...if i dont do that, the phone wont see the card.