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Ok so off recent reading it seems that many people that have followed the steps in "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" have unstable devices. Please complete this poll, and if you have a stable (one or less crash a week) please tell us how. It seem that many people here are Stuggling to get a stable WM6 that supports Japanese.
My Black Majik ROM and every other ROM before it crashes 4 or more times a day!
to stop crashing cook in Japanese support??
look at this (from Make youe x01ht a wm6 device) from my last post there.
I wish somebody could figure this out. Anyway, at the moment, the cooked lvsw with built in Japanese support works best. Although it is a little slow. It has not crashed for 2 days solid -- no matter how much I have thrashed it. Every single other English rom crashes.
Therefore, it is possible to make a stable wm6 with Japanese support -- just how!
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Yep I installed the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW. Some things I noticed were that it was modified to install the Japanese stuff (including character input, mslite, fonts, x02ht setting for softbank Japan, etc) following flashing, i.e installed these setting automactially from the extended rom. Now, I am wondering why the thing is so stable. It has not crashed ONCE in the 24 hours I have been trying to crash it.
Funny because every single other English WM6 rom, including the same version of the LVSW rom I have installed have all had terrible problems with random crashing etc; the only difference being that I followed instructions from the beginning of this thread to install the Japanese.
My question: how do we set up English roms so that they automatically install Japanese stuff (including x01ht settings for Japan) from extended rom following flashing?
Very strange that doing it this was could make it so stable. Unless of course, there are newer/more stable versions of a lot of the software links that appear in the original thread?
Ideas please! Would like to solve this enigma.
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.
rickywck said:
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip
See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"
And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.
I use LVSW 3.30.3 English ROM with LetsJapan and JapaneseIME (both by Asukal) installed...
Generally, phone seems stable, but then after switching to any of Japanese IMEs (Tegaki, Romaji...) trouble starts... Worst problem is that sometimes SMS and MMS freezes the phone, for example, on message reception. It is even worse by the fact the incoming message is then lost forever!
For some people, switching to Japanese input everyday is essential, and of course, messaging too... these two things seems to clash on all ROMs (some seems to be much more stable than the others).
What we need here is more stable Japanese font & input method package to do things properly... We need Asukal
tora201 said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip
See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"
And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.
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Thanks, but the link seems not working, could you post again ?
Stable CJK system
My experience :
1. Install Asukal's echinaNo5a to support Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
CJ fonts are included.
1.1 move&over write /Temp/wince.nls to /Windows
1.2 delete the startup menu's "usemynls?".
2. Install A4&Hanwan to input Chinese input and Atok to input Japanese.
3. Install other stuffs: Genocide Today, KPCapt, MMSLite265, JJ Pimp My Black 0.2,SQLCE 2.0, AozoraKoneko
I am using Elf_Edition_v2.1 based on LSVW 0519 ROM switching from Black 3.0.1.
It usually works several days for me and surely randomly locks too, but is mostly stable one ever
If anyone teaches me how to cook a ROM, I can make it.
I've tried it and it seems that it is quite stable, but I can't connect to the Internet via GRPS/3G. I've tried to delete the Softbank setting but it didn't seem to work.
http://rapidshare.com/files/40804243/RUU_signed.nbh.html
here you go! Just the nbh file.
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.
I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.
People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!
pre-cook Japanese into the external rom in wm6 english??
rockyV said:
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.
I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.
People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!
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Mate, here is a sort of copy of my post in the "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" (in wm6 hermes forum).
I have not heard anything back about my inquires, so I am posting it here with a few changes/comments. Note, I am using a x01ht and live in Japan, so I am using the softbank network.
I had the same problem as many others: when using WM6 (An English version) with Japanese language cabs/MMSlite etc installed AFTERWARDS using the guides on this board, they ALL crash, in one way or other.
This is strange because The Samurai build (beta 1/2) (Japanese cooked rom) worked perfectly! What is going on here? I wish there was away to convert it to English (I mean the GUI only). Then I would be in PDA heaven.
Overall, I have found that all Japanese language wm6 roms have worked better than with English ones installed with Japanese input/language support. Anway reasons/ideas why this would be would be most welcome......
Some typical crashes with English WM6 builds with Japanese language/fonts/mmslite 2.65 or 2.75 installed aftterward：
- MSSlite crashes A LOT (the whole thing freezes, then upon re-set, half the mail in the inbox is gone -- or the MSSlite programme itself is gone and needs a reinstall).
-crashes A LOT using explorer. No reason at all. Again, it just freezes. Freezes more with wifi.
-sometimes crashed on the comm manager screens, or in settings.
The point is, the thing crashes A LOT under WM6 with Japanese support installed later, following any of the guides here.
Anyway, in the end I went with Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT (Latest LVSW wm6 in English with Japanese support cooked in to install settings upon first boot via the external rom)
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635/Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.zip
It works fine. Not one crash over a week! And believe me, I have tried to crash the thing. I even installed the touch HTC plugins.
Basically, the difference between this and other wm6 roms is that all the Japanese support was cooked in to install via the external rom upon the first boot. So, my question is:
Since somebody (A Japanese guy) made this, it should be possible to make a similar Black version (for example) with built in Japanese language/mms/softbank settings set up to install automatically via the external rom upon first boot. Anybody know how to do this?
If we can do this, or somebody post a guide, it would seem to solve all our problems.
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!
You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...
hamster0914 said:
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?
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Would that work?? Oh, my phone is locked so I can't do that! :-( its the post April softbank one. Damn you softbank! Can somebody else try that??
****! This ROM is Magic!! How made it?
Only problem is that it's slow, if compared with Black. Can anybody cook a black ROM with this incredible Softbank support?
Please!!!!!
hamster0914 said:
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!
You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...
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You mena that if if you run all the .CAB of the extended ROM, 1 by 1, in the proper order; nothing changes?
Yes, that's right.
hamster0914 said:
Yes, that's right.
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I checked the ROM carefully ... All the Japanese support is cooked into the ROM, not via Extended ROM.
Or that boy cook new ROM, or we can't do anything. Anyway ... I think that it's extremely slow for be WM6.
Saludos
Great! Kind of.
It is good to know that I am not the only person who has had chronic trouble with installing Japanese support in WM6. I have tried quite a few ROMs, Black 2.5 through Dymond, as well as a few LVSW, and have had random lock-ups and the SOD on all of them. I keep going back to my Japanese WM5 ROM for the stability. I've got a three-day weekend coming and will report back after flashing Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT with anything I find out about this baked-in Japanese support ROM.
To sesaru, I have noticed that LVSW is routinely slower than Black - even without any Japanese support issues.
the rom is slow, but it is completely stable. I wonder how it was made? It certainly shows it CAN BE DONE. I have not had a single lock-up since I installed it. So.... something going on here. Nobody can figure it out? Oh, and for the record, it installed all of the Japanese stuff from the external rom upon first boot (the 3 second thing). So, I wonder why does Japanese work without crashes if installed automactially upon first boot via external rom??
I've been searching the forum all over, cause i'm pretty sure i saw someone else report about this too somewhere on this forum, but i can't find it anywhere anymore... Here's the horrific problem...:
With WM6 (Official Dopod SEA, no SPL) i already encountered two times the horrifying message "Password Incorrect" when i want to login again after a reboot.... No matter how many times i fill in the CORRECT password (ie. Device-PIN), it just keeps me out... This is going to be the second time in 3 days i'm gonna have to do a hard reset (i guess it's time for a backup program), and this has pissed me off completely...
I don't dare using a PIN anymore now... cause it's my only (working) phone right now...and i rely on it.
These lockups happened everytime i made a change to the device like installing an appplication or tweaking something in the registry. After the reboot i'm locked out...
Anyone any ideas what causes this, and how to prevent/fix it ?
I have the same problem.
Just did ANOTHER hard reset. And the problem is gone. I'm still investigating.
Feeling that it might have to do with the programs being installed.
I have the same ROM as you.
Keep posting.
joymike123 said:
I have the same problem.
Just did ANOTHER hard reset. And the problem is gone. I'm still investigating.
Feeling that it might have to do with the programs being installed.
I have the same ROM as you.
Keep posting.
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I'm still busy 'rebuilding' this sucker... But as for now can you confirm it didn't happen again even after editing something in registry or installing an app ? That's when it happened to me everytime (while the PIN was enabled during this)...
And the weird thing is that i'm running exactly the identical software-setup as on previous ROM's... like mUn's WM6, LVSW's, original WM5, GPS WM5 and then some... But never ever i had this problem before... i'm thinking more something like bug in new WM6, or maybe the HTC taskman...?
Edit: i added SpbBackup to todays setup....so hopefully when it happens again, i can recover of it more quickly... Also fiddled around the reg until i made sure i did ALL tweaks i want... I'll wait a few days with a PIN this time...
Locked out
Same thing with me, pin disabled until further developments of this weird bug.
I can confirm this bug. Happening to my friend with the latest PDAVIEt's ROM based on DPOD WM6 official.
When u flash your ROM and a PIN was setted, you'll be stuck at the boot with a message that tells you : Your mother F* password isn't correct...try again...and Again .. and again...
the only Sollution is to reflash.
Weired, not !!!!
I'm tired on updating & downgrading.
I'll cook my own ROM now
Ok...let's start summing up all that software in our devices... here i go for mine:
-Stowaway BT keyboard driver
-Saman WM5NewMenu
-David Andrs Sun'n'Moon
-Spb Backup (new this time )
-Spb PocketPlus 3.2
-Spb Weather
-Spb PhoneSuite
-Ilium Newsbreak
-Caywen Kevtris 2
-larna iContacts
-Google maps
-DeveloperOne AgendaOne and Codewallet 2006
-Coreplayer
-Chi-Tai Batterystatus ext
-ATIfix
-Resco Explorer2007 and Radio
-MS VoiceCommand 1.6
-TomTom 6.03
torpie13 said:
I can confirm this bug. Happening to my friend with the latest PDAVIEt's ROM based on DPOD WM6 official.
When u flash your ROM and a PIN was setted, you'll be stuck at the boot with a message that tells you : Your mother F* password isn't correct...try again...and Again .. and again...
the only Sollution is to reflash.
Weired, not !!!!
I'm tired on updating & downgrading.
I'll cook my own ROM now
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I wonder if this is related to the problem with the DOPOD ROM (and its derivatives) changing the Device Code in TomTom Navigator? It doesn't happen with any other ROM, and has caused problems with TomTom refusing to issue a new activation code. The only solution to that is to regress the ROM to WM5, or flash a non-DOPOD one.
I don't see at all what TomTom has to do with the specific issue in this thread...
WM6 password bug
It is a known issue and it was WM6 bug. Was reported to MS. With PS turn on, when you take out the battery, WM6 will forget the password. Therefore cannot turn on.
Moaske said:
I don't see at all what TomTom has to do with the specific issue in this thread...
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Probably nothing, but if the DOPOD ROM seems to be misinterpreting password information, it could be the same bug that misinterprets the Devcie Code. Strange thya both only seem to be occuring with DOPOD derivatives.
NeilM said:
Probably nothing, but if the DOPOD ROM seems to be misinterpreting password information, it could be the same bug that misinterprets the Devcie Code. Strange thya both only seem to be occuring with DOPOD derivatives.
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Well, i think this has a lot more to do with the fact that you changed the OS image... Although i cannot explain why the cooked MW6 versions do not display this behaviour...
cptanz said:
It is a known issue and it was WM6 bug. Was reported to MS. With PS turn on, when you take out the battery, WM6 will forget the password. Therefore cannot turn on.
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Correct! Taking out the battery also forces a reboot... So, every reboot makes it 'forget' the password so it seems...
Incredibly that M$ even dared to release this to OEM's....and even worse: they haven't fixed it yet!!!
Come to think of it....: i never had this issue with one of the cooked WM6 ROM's (though you get batterydrain problems and slower performance in return).... That's really strange...
Could it have something to doe with the fact that the Dopod ROM has "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen ? (meaning it's for some forthcoming hardware, and NOT the standard P3600 ?)
I've got the same problem too and have tried several ROMS with the same problem. PdaViet 4.00.5, Gullum, etc with the same problem. Problem is, I cannot deal without a PIN as my company exchange server enforces a policy to set a PIN. I've gone back to WM5 now which is very very stable until a solution is found.
Moaske said:
Come to think of it....: i never had this issue with one of the cooked WM6 ROM's (though you get batterydrain problems and slower performance in return).... That's really strange...
Could it have something to doe with the fact that the Dopod ROM has "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen ? (meaning it's for some forthcoming hardware, and NOT the standard P3600 ?)
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Actually I'm using a modified PDAVIET Rom, but I didn't have any i in my about screen when I was using the official dopod.
I'm removing my battery now to have a cold start... I don't have any pin or password problem, even if I'm using a pin protected sim and a pin protected device (two pins at startup)
Ciao
wm6 password bug?
i've got the same problem, with an e-ten x500+....
Very strange
I just want to tell you that I never had this problem (which would be terrible for me, cause using Exchange Server you must enter a password unless you do a special registry hack).
I used mun_rus WM6 ROM and I am using Bepes German WM6 ROM and I never had any problems with the password... very strange.
*Bump*
So it seems to be narrowed down to pretty much all official WM6 rom's, but has anyone found out yet if there's a way to fix this ? Does M$ know ? Have any of the cooks here found what the difference between the WM builds is, that causes this terrible issue ?
I'm still on the Dopod WM6 rom, but my device is totally unprotected now.... unacceptable... (apart from having to deal with me to get your hands on my Trin)
I've been on the PVIET 10 rom for a week with PIN code activated without any problems.
Today I decided to change the dialpad, and as soon as that happens, after a reset, I can no longer enter my PIN.
Anyone having the similar problem?
Me too
I was PDAViet for over a week, I had issues with TOMTOM, when I re-installed and did a soft reset I got the device code error. I had no choice but to do a hard reset and start over again. I was using Ausdim prior to this for ages and never had this problem.
I meet the same problem with rom Faman 3.1 Fr
I read somwhere : a bug report about this is present on the Microsoft website. It is a know issue from Microsoft WM6.
Hi Everybody!I have SPV M650 Orange(Artemis).I update my ROM to Artemis Touch 4.01 Vanilla and now i have problem with calling.After night i try to call but... my phone not respond,others programs and function working normally.Restart(big battery drain 10% down after soft reset !!) and my Artemis working fine.Before im using Artemis 4.01 Vanilla ROM and problem will be the same!I update my radio to 03.08.90 but problem stay.Please help lads!
Sorry,bad english.
Regards.
the same
I have the same problem, but I have a FULL version of 4.02 ROM (ENG). The problem is exactly the same - after some time (one night for example) the "phone application" stops responding when I want to make a call. I think it's the ROMs fault. I thinking of going back to the original WM5 or original WM6 from HTC.
kosiara said:
I have the same problem, but I have a FULL version of 4.02 ROM (ENG). The problem is exactly the same - after some time (one night for example) the "phone application" stops responding when I want to make a call. I think it's the ROMs fault. I thinking of going back to the original WM5 or original WM6 from HTC.
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I think the problem is from the OS ROM. I had same problem with vanilla 4.02.
Just try it another new build ROM.
Cheers
Same problem here
Zecanilis said:
I think the problem is from the OS ROM. I had same problem with vanilla 4.02.
Just try it another new build ROM.
Cheers
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Hi Zecanilis,
I encounter the same problem that is described here by user kosiara an Novy
The GSM signal is excellent, but the phone does not work from time to time and when I try to make a call, I get the message "the operation failed". of course nobody can reach me neither... When I do a soft reset everything is back to normal...
This is very anoying and I do not know what to do.
I bought this PDA second hand, with the upgrades already done for me. Since I do not have any personal data or programs on it yet, I wouldn't mind doing a hard reset and installing everything from scratch.
What would you suggest as a stable system OS and ROM versions?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Here are my actual data:
XDA Orbit
IPL 1.25.0001
SPL 1.11.0000
GSM 03.08.90
OS 3.13.0.0
ROM version : Artemis Touch 4.02 WWE
ROM date 4/08/08
Protocol version 4.1.13.52
Model Nr : ARTE 200
WM 6.1 Professional
CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0)
Regards
But, yet again, I don't understand...
Vanilla 4.01 and 4.02 seem to be very popular and appreciated roms.
How come we are the only ones to complain about phone not working properly?
Is it really the OS build? CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0) I don't think so. I have seen it also a lot in Devices.
What could it be then?
I hope it is not a Gsm radio hardware pb......
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Zbootsom said:
But, yet again, I don't understand...
Vanilla 4.01 and 4.02 seem to be very popular and appreciated roms.
How come we are the only ones to complain about phone not working properly?
Is it really the OS build? CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0) I don't think so. I have seen it also a lot in Devices.
What could it be then?
I hope it is not a Gsm radio hardware pb......
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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I'm not "guessing". I had the same problem and i think my problem is solved after this new rom i have.
Just try one recent build of OS. My build is 19591.
Before upgrading, just turning off and on the phone in the "comm manager" whould give me that problem sometimes. Now i've allready tested it and all is ok.
Cheers
Zecanilis said:
I'm not "guessing". I had the same problem and i think my problem is solved after this new rom i have.
Just try one recent build of OS. My build is 19591.
Before upgrading, just turning off and on the phone in the "comm manager" whould give me that problem sometimes. Now i've allready tested it and all is ok.
Cheers
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Hi, and thanks for your reply.
I am new to this and althought I read many post, I am not sure.
Can I just upgrade the OS Build without flashing a new ROM.?
If Yes, How do I do it...any tutorial?
Thanks
No.
You have to flash a complete new ROM.
Cheers
OK Thanks
Whish me good luck,,,
Good luck and good choose...
!Novy said:
Hi Everybody!I have SPV M650 Orange(Artemis).I update my ROM to Artemis Touch 4.01 Vanilla and now i have problem with calling.After night i try to call but... my phone not respond,others programs and function working normally.Restart(big battery drain 10% down after soft reset !!) and my Artemis working fine.Before im using Artemis 4.01 Vanilla ROM and problem will be the same!I update my radio to 03.08.90 but problem stay.Please help lads!
Sorry,bad english.
Regards.
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I experienced that problem a few weeks ago and it's happening more often in the last days. My ROM is Artemis Touch 4.02 full.
Some people started complaining that they couldn't phone me while I didn't see any problem with my phone (as long as I didn't try to make a call myself).
Funny addition to that problem: Sometimes I find my phone (usually in the morning) with a blank white screen. I don't know why that keeps happening but I sure would appreciate any hints what's the root of all that evil.
I'm happy with the 4.02 ROM so I'd rather avoid some things if it keeps the ROM stable.
novy said:
I experienced that problem a few weeks ago and it's happening more often in the last days. My ROM is Artemis Touch 4.02 full.
Some people started complaining that they couldn't phone me while I didn't see any problem with my phone (as long as I didn't try to make a call myself).
Funny addition to that problem: Sometimes I find my phone (usually in the morning) with a blank white screen. I don't know why that keeps happening but I sure would appreciate any hints what's the root of all that evil.
I'm happy with the 4.02 ROM so I'd rather avoid some things if it keeps the ROM stable.
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when you installed your new rom did you flash it twice ?
this will make sure that all system files are copied 100%.
its really important to do this on all new roms that you install.
neilhhardy said:
when you installed your new rom did you flash it twice ?
this will make sure that all system files are copied 100%.
its really important to do this on all new roms that you install.
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Thanks for your answer. Yes, I flashed it twice and I even flashed a factory rom before that. All Artemis Touch roms were fine until 4.01 and 4.02.
So Zecanilis is probably right blaming the OS version for that malfunctions.
New Rom
I have flashed my device using USPL (took me 2 days to setup the program to work with vista drivers). Then I flashed the same ROM I had before (Artemis Touch 4.02 full Red and Black) but with a different OS build. (as Zicanillis advised)
I will use it for a while and let you know if the freezing phone problem has been corrected.
Cheers
One other change that is on my build is page pool.
My page pool is 6 MB, and some Touch and vanilla (included the 4.02 i had) is only 4MB.
In my opinion that could be another issue to test.
My PDA is working just fine now.
Cheers
For me the problem was the OS Build.
I flashed my device with the same 4.02 vanilla but with a different OS buid and the Phoneworks great. Been using for 2 weeks now, never freezes or looses signal.
Cool
Thanks to Zecanillis advice! obrigado !
Hi All !!
First - Thanks alot for this forum! it's the BEST!
I'm currently using PDACornerPro.V27 on my TyTN. but the same error happend with Schaps, Corner v20 and another TouchFLO rom.
Whenever I install Paragon LENG hebrew support on my device it just disables any way of accessing the Phone Dialer and the Contacts. Removing it doesn't work either, once installed - it f#$ks it up for good.
I've tried searching the registry with no luck whatsoever...
Can any of you Hermes Gurus help me out here?
Thanks!
hebrew on tytn wm6
NEW HEBREW BY ME:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2970594#post2970594
don't use the LENG hebrew,in addition to the problems u describe, its doesnt support the hardware keyboard of tytn.
personally this is what i do:
1.install Hebcert.cab from orange extended rom(attached below)
2.install 180407_HebrewTyTN.cab but DONT restart when prompted.
3.goto Progs. Lang setting(hagdarot safa 3 letters icon alef bet gimel) change the upper bar from the top option to buttom(it suppose to say interface lang. and the upper is hebrew the other is english but you cant c before reset)
4.now press (x) to reset
//////note: u dont have contacts hebrew browsing in the normal contact manager,
so use pocketCM with the setting.ini file i attached(just put in the pcm folder in progam files
//////also u dont have smart dialling for hebrew, so use this one jimmy98 made for us its works great with htc touch dialer also attached below(u can use different skin with hebrew letters).
ENJOY
Nimitz.
http://www.pocketcm.com/downloadfile.php?f=PocketCM-0.27.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2970594#post2970594
Thank you so much!
haven't tried it yet since it requires me to flash a new rom, I'll get to it this weekend.
anyhow, thanks alot, it's nice to have a supporting community.
bekef dude
u know u can hard-reset right? that way u dont have to flash anew rom
but if u feel like changing anyways i recommend this ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439973
i use the last one cause its lighter but if u dont feel like working much go with the first it has everything plus youtube and google maps etc.
Yeah, I know I can Hard Reset.. but I've been meaning to change to a new rom for sometime now, and Hard Reset will make me install everything all over again so I used the opportunity to flash.
I have a problem with the hebrew, Maybe you came across it too - after installing the hebrew, When I press the power button the device goes to standby and when I press the power again it doesn't get out of it until I soft reset it...
It renders the device quite useless..
P.S I've flashed the device with the rom u've recommended. it's reallllly fast.
Tytn Doesnt wake up
its a known issue hate it when that happens
you can read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273836
it happened to me a few times i still havent figuered out why,
but thebest solution is to change the rom,
try falshing another rom i'm working with the lighter one ive posted and it works smooth havent tried the other so i guess thats the one you flashed.
good luck
No luck... so far I've tried with 4 different ROMs and didn't succeed in any attempt, I've tried both of the ROMs you've recommended, PdaCorner v.27 RBSN 3G and CRC dev 14.1 beta... as I said, The hebrew installs fine but once the device goes to standby/power saving it just dies...
I've tried doing what the post you've ref'd me to offered - disabling the advance network features on the pc-usb connection and removing some addons like the Voice-Commander... no luck either... been at it all night
is it possible that HebCert.cab or 180407_HebrewTyTN.cab you've attached are not of the right version?
The Hebrew is WAAAAAAY better than Paragon's LENG (as long as the device stays on) that doesn't even let me use Opera past ver8.6, and I'd really hate to give it up.
Please advise..
the version of the hebrew is from my phone but is identical to the hebrew cabs from other orange tytn phones.
+iv'e dumped my ext.rom like a year ago then my phone broke (physicly) just last week and
the new tytn orange gave me had the same exact cabs for hebrew
(with almost the same rom newer version but wm5 uglyass green lame-o)
so that's not it for sure..
++it happened to me as well with several roms with the same hebrew cabs
for no apparent reason but now it works just fine.
+++u can always go back (assuming u backedup)to the original orange rom
that came with your tytn and dump the hebrew cabs from your ext.rom though it will be a waste of time.
one thing i did that help with the PDAcorner's older version with this problem was to update the HARD-SPL version to 2.3
..so check your spl version by reseting to the bootloader
(reset while holding the power button and the top left ok button)
if its lower than 1.40 theres a big chance an update would do the job..
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/
update to 2.1 or to the latest then reflash i suggest to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439973
cause we know it works for sure.
+don't install nothing not even the hebrew..check if the device wakes then install ONLY the hebcert(btw:u install this first always) and main file but change the interface language before reset so it wont boot with hebrew menus even once..post back if the problem presists.. good luck
I Refuse to give up!!
Well, I did everything you offered, bit by bit -
1. Updated to HardSPL 2.1
2. Flashed to HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_V5_WWE_12.11.2008
3. Did an ON and OFF tests, few times - after power off, soft reset eg.. (ps I found out that Soft Reset from the os doesn't work either after the hebrew installation - so I checked that too) - all worked fine.
4. I've installed the HebCert.cab and then the main file.
5. changed the interface language to english.
6. Reset and voila... same bug all over again
I thought maybe it had something to do with installing the hebrew while the tytn is connected to activesync so i did all that without it being so.
got any more ideas?
# _
listen this time youll get it stright,..
i think its all cause you got the WRONG rom..
i saw you wrote "HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_V5_WWE_12.11.2 008" rom while i was talking about:
27/10/2008 ROM 3.62.502.20 (Manila2D) V.20 Build 20921 by PhamQuang
http://rapidshare.com/files/157947939/HERMES_WWE_3.62.502.20_B20921_Manila2D.rar as the lighter rom installed
anyways i felt kinda guilty cause i recommended it (though i told you i havent tested it but i guess you didnt understand to which one i was refferin)
so i flashed the rom you were talking about just to check
and suprise suprise my tytn didnt wake same as yours..
reflashed back to 27/10/2008 ROM 3.62.502.20 (Manila2D) V.20 Build 20921 by PhamQuang(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439973)
and TA-DA works like a charm..
so i would suggest to repeat the same stages as from your last message only this time with the right one
good luck buddy im sure this time itll work
btw the password for the file ishamQuang
If I haven't said it so far - thank you ever so much for your time and effort.
Well, I did write the name of that rom but I've tried both roms on the same process...
I did, however, manage to get some progress on another angle - I've updated my radio version (was the only thing we didn't cover) and now it works with the Manila2D rom. alas, nothing else seems to be working...
I've started to install all my favorite progies (Adobe Reader LE, PocketRAR, SPB Insight, JBED, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, etc...) and everytime the darn phone hangs on one of the installation and just DIES... only hard reset can revive it...
I'm gonna start from scratch - tomorrow I'm gonna take a naked rom and start building on top of it... I must be doing something wrong. only good indication is that the phone can get in and out of standby WITH the your hebrew version - so I know the hebrew is ok.
I'll go thru with it tomorrow and keep you posted.
again, I really appreciate your efforts to help. thanks.
your very welcome.. to be honest its just cause were both israellis and also because i went through this crap myself but no one here could really help me i had to solve it myself..
i DID forget to tell you the first thing i did to the phone was to SUPERCID unlock it:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
try it if you havent already, mayb the protection is whats causin all the freezes. plus its unlocks the sim bull****.
GL again
BTW:
you dont need to install opera for manilla2d:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2860699&postcount=4764
or use the file ive attached.
plus its better lookin htc version.
and use this as the PDF reader 100x faster than adobe:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425268
http://www.4shared.com/file/69693567/504106d/Update_20.html?dirPwdVerified=2117bcd2http://www.4shared.com/file/69693567/504106d/Update_20.html?dirPwdVerified=2117bcd2
Great (Partial) Success!!
Ok! here's what I did and some conclusions I've come to:
1. flashed CRC r14.1 Big Storage ROM.
2. Installed ALLLLLLLLLLLL of the app's I needed prior to the hebrew installation.
3. Cleared all Caches, Temps, and MRU lists etc using SKtools.
4. Clean Start the device (SR).
5. Installed the hebrew, changed interface language and Soft reset.
6. Enjoyed my new revived device!!
now the only thing that DOES go wrong is the Java emulation, I've tried all available versions of Esmertec Jave (20080222 3.1M, 20080328.31 and 20080428.2.1) Tried installing to the device and to the SD and didn't succeed. I also tried to use the Device Update feature of CRC to get the latest java version from thier repository... didn't succeed either.
The thing is, before the hebrew was installed all versions worked fine, and after that NONE did...
I also think that this piece of software is what causing the device to die!!
After I remove the java emulator the device just hangs on the boot screen.
I've flashed my device numerous times with a whole bounch of ROMs, The conclusion I came to is that the hebrew worked on MOST of the ROMS didn't have JBED pre-installaed!
I would have checked it but I'm tired from flashing and installing stuff on my device for now, maybe next month... I gave up on using OperaMini since I don't have a working java emulator currently.
Which, if any, are u using?
Thanks for all the pieces of software you've recommended, I tried the PDF reader you suggested and I like Acrobat LE 2.5 Diamond edition better.,,
Anyhow - It's working now. so as my project instructor said - if it works - don't touch it!
Thanks alot for now! I WILL try to isolate the problem and keep you posted!
I Owe you man..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1487409&postcount=67http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1487409&postcount=67
http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/ge
tjpc.html
i use it only when i get bored and start messin with stuff..
glad to hear u finnaly naild it
feel free to ask or recommend stuff to me espcially hebrew ot israel stuff
c u on the flipside
btw: i just found out something cool when you hold the green talk button from 2 sec it turns on/ff the speakerphone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2970594#post2970594
badnimits said:
NEW HEBREW BY ME:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2970594#post2970594
don't use the LENG hebrew,in addition to the problems u describe, its doesnt support the hardware keyboard of tytn.
personally this is what i do:
1.install Hebcert.cab from orange extended rom(attached below)
2.install 180407_HebrewTyTN.cab but DONT restart when prompted.
3.goto Progs. Lang setting(hagdarot safa 3 letters icon alef bet gimel) change the upper bar from the top option to buttom(it suppose to say interface lang. and the upper is hebrew the other is english but you cant c before reset)
4.now press (x) to reset
//////note: u dont have contacts hebrew browsing in the normal contact manager,
so use pocketCM with the setting.ini file i attached(just put in the pcm folder in progam files
//////also u dont have smart dialling for hebrew, so use this one jimmy98 made for us its works great with htc touch dialer also attached below(u can use different skin with hebrew letters).
ENJOY
Nimitz.
http://www.pocketcm.com/downloadfile.php?f=PocketCM-0.27.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2970594#post2970594
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Shalom,
Do you know if it works on an HTC Dual Touch with Windows Mobile 6.1 US ?
The HTC Dialer above is 2G version?
Are there any 3G version for WM 6.1?
Thanks
Hi guys. New to the forum.
Here's the deal.
Got a HTC touch diamond (below spec.) last week. Got it second hand and it seem to me it works pritty slugish. I mean it takes like 1-2 seconds before the phone recognize I'm trying to slide on the quick links menu in the bottom. Also the free memory after a cleanRam secion is abt 20 MB. Also smtimes the phone would not respond and nothing would help but removing the battery.
Can you please sujjest what the reason might be is it a bad ROM? Does win 6.1 work better on the Diamond as it comes with it preinstalled? Looking for some advise before changing the ROM.
T-Mobile MDA Vario IV
Bluetooth version - 2.0/2.0+EDR
O.S. Version: Win Mob 6.5 professional
CE O.S. 5.2.28011 (28011.5.5.0)
Manila version 2.5.19211619.0
ROM 28011_KH WWE
Radio version 1.09.25.23
Protocol version 52.51.25.26H
Thanks in advance!
ROM
WM6.1 is not as quick as 6.5, but it should not be taking as long as you are describing to do anything
Chances are there is a piece of software installed making the phone sluggish, you can remove programs just like a PC in the phones settings, have a look down the list and see if there is anything there you dont want
If you choose to upgrade to WM6.5 I highly recommend "BsBG 6.5" from this link
I have tried 100's of ROMs and this is the only one where everything works flawlessly on it (Dont forget to Flash the unlocked Radio and Security unlock the phone before upgrading)