WM6 issue: Locked out by Device-PIN (password incorrect) - P3600 ROM Development

I've been searching the forum all over, cause i'm pretty sure i saw someone else report about this too somewhere on this forum, but i can't find it anywhere anymore... Here's the horrific problem...:
With WM6 (Official Dopod SEA, no SPL) i already encountered two times the horrifying message "Password Incorrect" when i want to login again after a reboot.... No matter how many times i fill in the CORRECT password (ie. Device-PIN), it just keeps me out... This is going to be the second time in 3 days i'm gonna have to do a hard reset (i guess it's time for a backup program), and this has pissed me off completely...
I don't dare using a PIN anymore now... cause it's my only (working) phone right now...and i rely on it.
These lockups happened everytime i made a change to the device like installing an appplication or tweaking something in the registry. After the reboot i'm locked out...
Anyone any ideas what causes this, and how to prevent/fix it ?

I have the same problem.
Just did ANOTHER hard reset. And the problem is gone. I'm still investigating.
Feeling that it might have to do with the programs being installed.
I have the same ROM as you.
Keep posting.

joymike123 said:
I have the same problem.
Just did ANOTHER hard reset. And the problem is gone. I'm still investigating.
Feeling that it might have to do with the programs being installed.
I have the same ROM as you.
Keep posting.
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I'm still busy 'rebuilding' this sucker... But as for now can you confirm it didn't happen again even after editing something in registry or installing an app ? That's when it happened to me everytime (while the PIN was enabled during this)...
And the weird thing is that i'm running exactly the identical software-setup as on previous ROM's... like mUn's WM6, LVSW's, original WM5, GPS WM5 and then some... But never ever i had this problem before... i'm thinking more something like bug in new WM6, or maybe the HTC taskman...?
Edit: i added SpbBackup to todays setup....so hopefully when it happens again, i can recover of it more quickly... Also fiddled around the reg until i made sure i did ALL tweaks i want... I'll wait a few days with a PIN this time...

Locked out
Same thing with me, pin disabled until further developments of this weird bug.

I can confirm this bug. Happening to my friend with the latest PDAVIEt's ROM based on DPOD WM6 official.
When u flash your ROM and a PIN was setted, you'll be stuck at the boot with a message that tells you : Your mother F* password isn't correct...try again...and Again .. and again...
the only Sollution is to reflash.
Weired, not !!!!
I'm tired on updating & downgrading.
I'll cook my own ROM now

Ok...let's start summing up all that software in our devices... here i go for mine:
-Stowaway BT keyboard driver
-Saman WM5NewMenu
-David Andrs Sun'n'Moon
-Spb Backup (new this time )
-Spb PocketPlus 3.2
-Spb Weather
-Spb PhoneSuite
-Ilium Newsbreak
-Caywen Kevtris 2
-larna iContacts
-Google maps
-DeveloperOne AgendaOne and Codewallet 2006
-Coreplayer
-Chi-Tai Batterystatus ext
-ATIfix
-Resco Explorer2007 and Radio
-MS VoiceCommand 1.6
-TomTom 6.03

torpie13 said:
I can confirm this bug. Happening to my friend with the latest PDAVIEt's ROM based on DPOD WM6 official.
When u flash your ROM and a PIN was setted, you'll be stuck at the boot with a message that tells you : Your mother F* password isn't correct...try again...and Again .. and again...
the only Sollution is to reflash.
Weired, not !!!!
I'm tired on updating & downgrading.
I'll cook my own ROM now
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I wonder if this is related to the problem with the DOPOD ROM (and its derivatives) changing the Device Code in TomTom Navigator? It doesn't happen with any other ROM, and has caused problems with TomTom refusing to issue a new activation code. The only solution to that is to regress the ROM to WM5, or flash a non-DOPOD one.

I don't see at all what TomTom has to do with the specific issue in this thread...

WM6 password bug
It is a known issue and it was WM6 bug. Was reported to MS. With PS turn on, when you take out the battery, WM6 will forget the password. Therefore cannot turn on.

Moaske said:
I don't see at all what TomTom has to do with the specific issue in this thread...
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Probably nothing, but if the DOPOD ROM seems to be misinterpreting password information, it could be the same bug that misinterprets the Devcie Code. Strange thya both only seem to be occuring with DOPOD derivatives.

NeilM said:
Probably nothing, but if the DOPOD ROM seems to be misinterpreting password information, it could be the same bug that misinterprets the Devcie Code. Strange thya both only seem to be occuring with DOPOD derivatives.
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Well, i think this has a lot more to do with the fact that you changed the OS image... Although i cannot explain why the cooked MW6 versions do not display this behaviour...
cptanz said:
It is a known issue and it was WM6 bug. Was reported to MS. With PS turn on, when you take out the battery, WM6 will forget the password. Therefore cannot turn on.
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Correct! Taking out the battery also forces a reboot... So, every reboot makes it 'forget' the password so it seems...
Incredibly that M$ even dared to release this to OEM's....and even worse: they haven't fixed it yet!!!

Come to think of it....: i never had this issue with one of the cooked WM6 ROM's (though you get batterydrain problems and slower performance in return).... That's really strange...
Could it have something to doe with the fact that the Dopod ROM has "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen ? (meaning it's for some forthcoming hardware, and NOT the standard P3600 ?)

I've got the same problem too and have tried several ROMS with the same problem. PdaViet 4.00.5, Gullum, etc with the same problem. Problem is, I cannot deal without a PIN as my company exchange server enforces a policy to set a PIN. I've gone back to WM5 now which is very very stable until a solution is found.

Moaske said:
Come to think of it....: i never had this issue with one of the cooked WM6 ROM's (though you get batterydrain problems and slower performance in return).... That's really strange...
Could it have something to doe with the fact that the Dopod ROM has "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen ? (meaning it's for some forthcoming hardware, and NOT the standard P3600 ?)
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Actually I'm using a modified PDAVIET Rom, but I didn't have any i in my about screen when I was using the official dopod.
I'm removing my battery now to have a cold start... I don't have any pin or password problem, even if I'm using a pin protected sim and a pin protected device (two pins at startup)
Ciao

wm6 password bug?
i've got the same problem, with an e-ten x500+....

Very strange
I just want to tell you that I never had this problem (which would be terrible for me, cause using Exchange Server you must enter a password unless you do a special registry hack).
I used mun_rus WM6 ROM and I am using Bepes German WM6 ROM and I never had any problems with the password... very strange.

*Bump*
So it seems to be narrowed down to pretty much all official WM6 rom's, but has anyone found out yet if there's a way to fix this ? Does M$ know ? Have any of the cooks here found what the difference between the WM builds is, that causes this terrible issue ?
I'm still on the Dopod WM6 rom, but my device is totally unprotected now.... unacceptable... (apart from having to deal with me to get your hands on my Trin)

I've been on the PVIET 10 rom for a week with PIN code activated without any problems.
Today I decided to change the dialpad, and as soon as that happens, after a reset, I can no longer enter my PIN.
Anyone having the similar problem?

Me too
I was PDAViet for over a week, I had issues with TOMTOM, when I re-installed and did a soft reset I got the device code error. I had no choice but to do a hard reset and start over again. I was using Ausdim prior to this for ages and never had this problem.

I meet the same problem with rom Faman 3.1 Fr
I read somwhere : a bug report about this is present on the Microsoft website. It is a know issue from Microsoft WM6.

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Stable WM6 with Japanese Support

Ok so off recent reading it seems that many people that have followed the steps in "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" have unstable devices. Please complete this poll, and if you have a stable (one or less crash a week) please tell us how. It seem that many people here are Stuggling to get a stable WM6 that supports Japanese.
My Black Majik ROM and every other ROM before it crashes 4 or more times a day!
to stop crashing cook in Japanese support??
look at this (from Make youe x01ht a wm6 device) from my last post there.
I wish somebody could figure this out. Anyway, at the moment, the cooked lvsw with built in Japanese support works best. Although it is a little slow. It has not crashed for 2 days solid -- no matter how much I have thrashed it. Every single other English rom crashes.
Therefore, it is possible to make a stable wm6 with Japanese support -- just how!
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Yep I installed the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW. Some things I noticed were that it was modified to install the Japanese stuff (including character input, mslite, fonts, x02ht setting for softbank Japan, etc) following flashing, i.e installed these setting automactially from the extended rom. Now, I am wondering why the thing is so stable. It has not crashed ONCE in the 24 hours I have been trying to crash it.
Funny because every single other English WM6 rom, including the same version of the LVSW rom I have installed have all had terrible problems with random crashing etc; the only difference being that I followed instructions from the beginning of this thread to install the Japanese.
My question: how do we set up English roms so that they automatically install Japanese stuff (including x01ht settings for Japan) from extended rom following flashing?
Very strange that doing it this was could make it so stable. Unless of course, there are newer/more stable versions of a lot of the software links that appear in the original thread?
Ideas please! Would like to solve this enigma.
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.
rickywck said:
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip
See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"
And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.
I use LVSW 3.30.3 English ROM with LetsJapan and JapaneseIME (both by Asukal) installed...
Generally, phone seems stable, but then after switching to any of Japanese IMEs (Tegaki, Romaji...) trouble starts... Worst problem is that sometimes SMS and MMS freezes the phone, for example, on message reception. It is even worse by the fact the incoming message is then lost forever!
For some people, switching to Japanese input everyday is essential, and of course, messaging too... these two things seems to clash on all ROMs (some seems to be much more stable than the others).
What we need here is more stable Japanese font & input method package to do things properly... We need Asukal
tora201 said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip
See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"
And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.
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Thanks, but the link seems not working, could you post again ?
Stable CJK system
My experience :
1. Install Asukal's echinaNo5a to support Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
CJ fonts are included.
1.1 move&over write /Temp/wince.nls to /Windows
1.2 delete the startup menu's "usemynls?".
2. Install A4&Hanwan to input Chinese input and Atok to input Japanese.
3. Install other stuffs: Genocide Today, KPCapt, MMSLite265, JJ Pimp My Black 0.2,SQLCE 2.0, AozoraKoneko
I am using Elf_Edition_v2.1 based on LSVW 0519 ROM switching from Black 3.0.1.
It usually works several days for me and surely randomly locks too, but is mostly stable one ever
If anyone teaches me how to cook a ROM, I can make it.
I've tried it and it seems that it is quite stable, but I can't connect to the Internet via GRPS/3G. I've tried to delete the Softbank setting but it didn't seem to work.
http://rapidshare.com/files/40804243/RUU_signed.nbh.html
here you go! Just the nbh file.
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.
I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.
People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!
pre-cook Japanese into the external rom in wm6 english??
rockyV said:
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.
I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.
People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!
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Mate, here is a sort of copy of my post in the "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" (in wm6 hermes forum).
I have not heard anything back about my inquires, so I am posting it here with a few changes/comments. Note, I am using a x01ht and live in Japan, so I am using the softbank network.
I had the same problem as many others: when using WM6 (An English version) with Japanese language cabs/MMSlite etc installed AFTERWARDS using the guides on this board, they ALL crash, in one way or other.
This is strange because The Samurai build (beta 1/2) (Japanese cooked rom) worked perfectly! What is going on here? I wish there was away to convert it to English (I mean the GUI only). Then I would be in PDA heaven.
Overall, I have found that all Japanese language wm6 roms have worked better than with English ones installed with Japanese input/language support. Anway reasons/ideas why this would be would be most welcome......
Some typical crashes with English WM6 builds with Japanese language/fonts/mmslite 2.65 or 2.75 installed aftterward:
- MSSlite crashes A LOT (the whole thing freezes, then upon re-set, half the mail in the inbox is gone -- or the MSSlite programme itself is gone and needs a reinstall).
-crashes A LOT using explorer. No reason at all. Again, it just freezes. Freezes more with wifi.
-sometimes crashed on the comm manager screens, or in settings.
The point is, the thing crashes A LOT under WM6 with Japanese support installed later, following any of the guides here.
Anyway, in the end I went with Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT (Latest LVSW wm6 in English with Japanese support cooked in to install settings upon first boot via the external rom)
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635/Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.zip
It works fine. Not one crash over a week! And believe me, I have tried to crash the thing. I even installed the touch HTC plugins.
Basically, the difference between this and other wm6 roms is that all the Japanese support was cooked in to install via the external rom upon the first boot. So, my question is:
Since somebody (A Japanese guy) made this, it should be possible to make a similar Black version (for example) with built in Japanese language/mms/softbank settings set up to install automatically via the external rom upon first boot. Anybody know how to do this?
If we can do this, or somebody post a guide, it would seem to solve all our problems.
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!
You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...
hamster0914 said:
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?
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Would that work?? Oh, my phone is locked so I can't do that! :-( its the post April softbank one. Damn you softbank! Can somebody else try that??
****! This ROM is Magic!! How made it?
Only problem is that it's slow, if compared with Black. Can anybody cook a black ROM with this incredible Softbank support?
Please!!!!!
hamster0914 said:
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!
You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...
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You mena that if if you run all the .CAB of the extended ROM, 1 by 1, in the proper order; nothing changes?
Yes, that's right.
hamster0914 said:
Yes, that's right.
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I checked the ROM carefully ... All the Japanese support is cooked into the ROM, not via Extended ROM.
Or that boy cook new ROM, or we can't do anything. Anyway ... I think that it's extremely slow for be WM6.
Saludos
Great! Kind of.
It is good to know that I am not the only person who has had chronic trouble with installing Japanese support in WM6. I have tried quite a few ROMs, Black 2.5 through Dymond, as well as a few LVSW, and have had random lock-ups and the SOD on all of them. I keep going back to my Japanese WM5 ROM for the stability. I've got a three-day weekend coming and will report back after flashing Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT with anything I find out about this baked-in Japanese support ROM.
To sesaru, I have noticed that LVSW is routinely slower than Black - even without any Japanese support issues.
the rom is slow, but it is completely stable. I wonder how it was made? It certainly shows it CAN BE DONE. I have not had a single lock-up since I installed it. So.... something going on here. Nobody can figure it out? Oh, and for the record, it installed all of the Japanese stuff from the external rom upon first boot (the 3 second thing). So, I wonder why does Japanese work without crashes if installed automactially upon first boot via external rom??

Any Soft Reset Database (email ect.) corruption fix?

I don't think I ever saw a resolution to this problem, is there a solid fix to the soft reset problem exhibited by Dopod's WM6 Rom. Currently running rom version 3.00.707.18 (07/24/07)
The problem is simple, set up some IMAP devices, configure, Push Email, Pair a bluetooth device. Soft reset the device a few times and eventually one or all the settings get lost. Added email accounts get lost, Paired bluetooth device is no longer paired, ActiveSync loses the password... you get the idea
Hi,
You should try the latest ROM releases, i never had that problem again since.
I'm currently using build 18533.0.7.0 without any loss of information after a soft-reset.
Bye.
shoey5 said:
I don't think I ever saw a resolution to this problem, is there a solid fix to the soft reset problem exhibited by Dopod's WM6 Rom. Currently running rom version 3.00.707.18 (07/24/07)
The problem is simple, set up some IMAP devices, configure, Push Email, Pair a bluetooth device. Soft reset the device a few times and eventually one or all the settings get lost. Added email accounts get lost, Paired bluetooth device is no longer paired, ActiveSync loses the password... you get the idea
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for mail account being lost after few softresets, you can try the mail account recovery software
http://nicolasmauri.blogspot.com/2007/01/wm5-utility-recover-your-lost-mail.html
it have repair after softreset feature, which give you auto repair your mail account with your provided info.
it works for me using pdaviet's rom
Hi, just tried last build 18533.0.7.0 (faman 3.6) but i have the same problem.
lost email accounts can be repared with the mailaccountrepair.exe app and works fine. But GPRS settings, wifi keys , BT paring disapear too on soft reset.
we realy need a solution/fix
regards.
Up !
all new roms cooked with the dopod official wm6 have this problem
can't find a solution, except don't soft reset...
people can live without softrest ?? lol
does this affect all new wm6 build on other phones? or just dopod's trinity rom bug?
anyway the first wm6 "leak" rom for trinity is not affected by this problem.
We allready know that!
All the rom's based on Dopod wm6, have that problem.
It is something from XIP section and not from the OS.
I have allready contact with mun_rus and ervius!
Mun_rus think's the problem is from the Dopod nk.exe.
So this is a bug found only on Trinity device's cause the fault from Dopod wm6 XIP!
All the new cooked rom's today use the XIP section from Oficiall Dopod wm6 rom's.
The only think sometimes changed in XIP section by cooker's is
coredll.dll-(From change the OS version) and
flashdrv.dll-(To merge the extended_rom)
Also sometime's edit the boot.hv and boot.rgu.
All the other file's in XIP stay the same.
The first wm6 leaked rom for trinity is not affected by this problem cause mun_rus use XIP section from ovosleep (Dont know where ovosleep found it).
Thank's
This is what I do and it really works for me:
[!] For prevent password and account dissapearing u should (you should make this procedure immidiatly after first soft reset ):
1. Set up your connection settings
2. Open IExplorer / Set up Ineternet connection / Open some internet page
3. Click Disconnect button to close internet connection
4. Hold power button and turn off your phone
5. Power on your phone.
After that procedure your password wont dissapear. I think that you should repeat the same for mail account (set up mail account / try to send or recieve your mail / hold disconnect button / turn off your phone)
dta1974 said:
This is what I do and it really works for me:
[!] For prevent password and account dissapearing u should (you should make this procedure immidiatly after first soft reset ):
1. Set up your connection settings
2. Open IExplorer / Set up Ineternet connection / Open some internet page
3. Click Disconnect button to close internet connection
4. Hold power button and turn off your phone
5. Power on your phone.
After that procedure your password wont dissapear. I think that you should repeat the same for mail account (set up mail account / try to send or recieve your mail / hold disconnect button / turn off your phone)
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Yes this is what mun_rus say on his first wm6 release.
Maybe that help but...
In many time's after you flash a new rom and after the auto-costumization end the device auto soft reset.
So after boot again maybe you allready have corruption your registry!
Thank's for the solution but we have to focus at these problem and find the real soution!
I allready make my XIP test's but i nead help from someone to really know how.
Thank's
I know that ausdim,but that´s what I do and afterwards I clean the registry with sktools.Seems to work. ;-)
ausdim said:
Thank's for the solution but we have to focus at these problem and find the real soution!
I allready make my XIP test's but i nead help from someone to really know how.
Thank's
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I agree, problem needs to be figured out and corrected, makes WM6 on Trinity pretty useless otherwise
Is any one to know about XIP's for help??
I upload the two xip's.bin
The one is from the first leaked wm6 for trinity and the other is from Dopod wm6.
We whant to replace the nk.exe from the new xip.bin with the old nk.exe.
Also we whant to merge the extended_rom.
Please these is very usefull for all of us couse make the trinity doesn't loose after any soft-reset tha mail acount's the wifi data and few other think's.
So if any one know (Bepe,ervius,mun_rus.....) please help.
Many thank's
i'm a bit confused.. i've tried almost every ROM for the trinity, and i've never lost my account/connection settings after soft reset...
racerx_ At you it is established SuperSid? At the some people passwords are lost, at the some people are not present. It can it is guilty?
I Am sorry for my English
no, i haven't super-cid'd... is that the cause of the problem?
I have the same problem with ADW's ROM. He suggested that I only soft reset by pressing the powerbutton and really close down the device. I now use this procedure always for a softreset and since then I did not lose any passwords or pairing info.
I agree with most of you that there is no sense of upgrading ROMs with every build release if we don't solve this BIG bug. We are releasing a rom every week but all of them buggy.
In my case I've seen that even only using PowerDown Button reseting, somehow registry corruption happens.
I don't know if someone could fix this, but in case someone does and does need some help, count with me.
I manage to port the old good xip section...
So i open a new thread to deal with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342269
For now we have to build all the new rom's with that rom folder in kitchen's.
Thank's
racerx_ You have not understood - at whom is SuperSid at that passwords are lost. Who does not have SuperSid that has no such problem.
colorist said:
racerx_ You have not understood - at whom is SuperSid at that passwords are lost. Who does not have SuperSid that has no such problem.
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Hi all,
like racerx_ I have tried many ROM and never I've lost my settings too
my device isn't SuperCid too, pheraps you must look at what SuperCid-ing a device do..
Hope this help and excuse for my english.
Bye
got it... thanks!

Anyone else having serious crash problems with WM6.1 ROMs?

After trying six or seven WM6.1-based ROMS from three different cookers (19199 and 19209), I'm starting to wonder if there's not something 'seriously' wrong with the WM6.1 base image.
I begins to strike me as some sort of duration-based memory degradation. My experience has been that runtime lasts between 2 and 48 hours before a hard reset is necessary. In my case, I pared my installs down to adding merely my password safe as the only add-on, and still it crashed.
The most interesting pre-crash was going to "Programs" and noticing the number of icon substantially reduced (...and reducing...), and the remaining icons as default program icons.
After about five days of fighting with these and trying different methods of extending runtime, I reloaded an older copy vp3G's 3.0.0 from last summer and haven't had a problem for the past 72 hours. In fact, I had no lock-ups with WM6-based, previously.
I'd be interested in other people's experiences with WM6.1-based ROMs on the Hermes...
- Marc
i may be wrong, but i think recall reading that flashing back to your stock rom, then flashin to 6.1 may fix some hard reset problems....
as for me, ive used 4 or 5 6.1 roms and havent experienced a hard reset.....my latest and favorite so far is faria's and dr.p's 6.1 rom, been running a week no hard reset...
im usin an at&t branded 8525
i was having a few issues with this but ended up changing radio versions from my standard 1.16 to 1.48.
havent had an issue since doing that.
i had the crash problem also, but after I not install htc cube in any of the wm6.1, everything ok and stable.
problem is with cube in wm6.1 i think.
Faria's is the best so far, but they all have problems to varying extents. Have you tried running Oxios Close apps? That will help you claim back memory and maybe help prevent the need for a hard reset. you can get it here: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
lupes5 said:
i may be wrong, but i think recall reading that flashing back to your stock rom, then flashin to 6.1 may fix some hard reset problems....
as for me, ive used 4 or 5 6.1 roms and havent experienced a hard reset.....my latest and favorite so far is faria's and dr.p's 6.1 rom, been running a week no hard reset...
im usin an at&t branded 8525
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Interesting. I did notice that on some ROM flashes that boot screen retained a previous ROM's splash. That might mean that some ROMs are not including all facets (OS, Radio...Bootloader?) of the complete image. Will give that a shot now that I'm back to a stable WM6.
st3v3 said:
i was having a few issues with this but ended up changing radio versions from my standard 1.16 to 1.48.
havent had an issue since doing that.
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Radio is 1.45 with vp3G 3.0.0. Will check again after a Faria re-flash and upgrade to 1.48 if it isn't included.
fizzy15 said:
i had the crash problem also, but after I not install htc cube in any of the wm6.1, everything ok and stable.
problem is with cube in wm6.1 i think.
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I had that thought too, but my last ROM didn't include any of the HTC apps, at all, so I think it's some conflict or something lower level. The cube 'is' a resource hog, however...
hamster0914 said:
Faria's is the best so far, but they all have problems to varying extents. Have you tried running Oxios Close apps? That will help you claim back memory and maybe help prevent the need for a hard reset. you can get it here: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
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The resets are always due to hard lockups, and they can be with only Activesync running as an application. I try to keep the number of running apps at a minimum for reasons that are probably fairly obvious to all here...
you are not alone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376211
Im also having the same problem .. all sorts of experiments has been done to test on why WM6.1 crash when I install them .. but 1 thing i noticed that it always hang before softreset that eventually lead to hardreset .. i thought hardware accelerations problem ... so what i do is .. every WM6.1 i changed to 8mbpp .. until now my machine ok.
My2Cents.
-/Abid.
Flash to stock rom then to wm 6.1... Apparently there is a problem if you flash from big storage rom to wm 6.1(not sure why this is so) but there have been a huge number of people who say this works for them, myself included.... I tried every wm6.1 rom that came out then doing something stupid eflashe stock os. No problems with wm 6.1 since. Also I believe that 19209 is somewhat more stable than versions 19199 or 19202... I'm using PDAViets 19209 rom,just changed to black edition, and have had NO trouble EVER since installing it when it first came out, no soft resets and more importantly, no hard resets... Cheers
milleniumbug89 said:
you are not alone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376211
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Yep, sounds like the same behavior I'm seeing. Soft lock, reset, soft lock, reset, hard reset...lose data... (rinse and repeat)
fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959
follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.
I have the same problem! Tell schaps so in his next rom he may fix this serious problem
Shadow CE 6.1
chronosxx said:
After trying six or seven WM6.1-based ROMS from three different cookers (19199 and 19209), I'm starting to wonder if there's not something 'seriously' wrong with the WM6.1 base image.
I begins to strike me as some sort of duration-based memory degradation. My experience has been that runtime lasts between 2 and 48 hours before a hard reset is necessary. In my case, I pared my installs down to adding merely my password safe as the only add-on, and still it crashed.
The most interesting pre-crash was going to "Programs" and noticing the number of icon substantially reduced (...and reducing...), and the remaining icons as default program icons.
After about five days of fighting with these and trying different methods of extending runtime, I reloaded an older copy vp3G's 3.0.0 from last summer and haven't had a problem for the past 72 hours. In fact, I had no lock-ups with WM6-based, previously.
I'd be interested in other people's experiences with WM6.1-based ROMs on the Hermes...
- Marc
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Use Shadow CE 6.1's rom .. I have been using it for months, and it is near flawless. Do it, you won't regret it . I've tried everything else .
Fix works...
raidzx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959
follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.
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After trying almost everything to get more than a few hours of runtime out of WM6.1, I followed the above instructions to the letter and WM6.1 has worked for 24 hours now (yes...a new record). I will update in a few days if the Hermes/Faria 6.1 combo continues to function.
One note: I was not able to use Vista to update to Hard-SPL after the Stock AT&T 6.0 ROM re-flash. Each attempt resulted in an updater error on the PC after the handheld entered bootloader mode. Did the same procedure on XP and it worked flawlessly.
Hey. Had the same problems but i solved it with flashing a AT&T Stock Rom first.
Now my Hermes with PDAVIET B&C WM6.1 Rom running like a flash
Without any freezes.
here is the link to my problem thread:
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raidzx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959
follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.
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Sorry, but following those instructions does NOT solve my problem. It does for some, but not all.
What works for ME, is to turn off the Storage Card power saving.
gregma said:
Sorry, but following those instructions does NOT solve my problem. It does for some, but not all.
What works for ME, is to turn off the Storage Card power saving.
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I will update the thread with your information, thanks!

Auto hard resets

I am using my device with WM6.1 19900 build ROM for about a week. All that time the device was very stable, no lockups, no resets.
Today I upgraded my friend's device (exactly the same one) to the same ROM with the same settings and additinoal programs. On the first hour of use, he had 3 (!) hard resets that occured with no reason during a normal work.
The only change is that I changed the pagepool size of his ROM to 4Mb (mine is 6Mb). Can it possibly happen because of pp size?
ochakov said:
I am using my device with WM6.1 19900 build ROM for about a week. All that time the device was very stable, no lockups, no resets.
Today I upgraded my friend's device (exactly the same one) to the same ROM with the same settings and additinoal programs. On the first hour of use, he had 3 (!) hard resets that occured with no reason during a normal work.
The only change is that I changed the pagepool size of his ROM to 4Mb (mine is 6Mb). Can it possibly happen because of pp size?
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No it can't be related to PP size at all.
If you had even bothered to search the forum or the Wiki you would have found the answer to your question which has been extensively covered in this forum.
Eventhough i will humour you and tell you waht to do:
1. Flash an original carrier ROM [you can find lots of them in the Wiki]
2. Hard reset
3. Install the desired ROM
4. Hard reset
5. Proceed with normal usage
If you have problems or doubts, before asking, please read the Wiki and search the forum.
Cheers.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I am pretty experienced with ROM upgrading and I did the upgrade exactly as you (and Wiki) describe!
Now I updated the pagepool back to 6Mb and reflashed the ROM.
No hard resets yet, but I am still testing. Will post the results.
It might be the problem with your ROM. Change to a different ROM and see if it fixes it!
ai6908 said:
It might be the problem with your ROM. Change to a different ROM and see if it fixes it!
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I believe you do have a point there... Page pool can NEVER be related to hard resets...
Curiosity: From which part of India are you? PM me wiht the answer if you like
Cheers.
Ok, This is not a pagepool size. The device is still hard resetting.
How is it possible that two identical devices, the same ROM performs so differently!?
That ROM is so stable for me, I like it, but the other device just refuses it!
I will start trying other ROMs. I will try to flash the original ROM and then flash the new one again. With all the required HR in the middle.
for me hard resets did not stop until i flashed a cingular rom but i dont know if thats because i have an 8525 or the extended rom is different some how.
for example i flashed a dopod rom twice trying to fix it and only a cingular rom did the trick if your still having hard resets its worth a try
ochakov said:
Ok, This is not a pagepool size. The device is still hard resetting.
How is it possible that two identical devices, the same ROM performs so differently!?
That ROM is so stable for me, I like it, but the other device just refuses it!
I will start trying other ROMs. I will try to flash the original ROM and then flash the new one again. With all the required HR in the middle.
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What type of hermes are both devices? Are they alike? Are they from different sub-builds? Are they HERM100, HERM200, HERM300?
Maybe the problem is related to that.
Cheers.
neva dinova said:
for me hard resets did not stop until i flashed a cingular rom but i dont know if thats because i have an 8525 or the extended rom is different some how.
for example i flashed a dopod rom twice trying to fix it and only a cingular rom did the trick if your still having hard resets its worth a try
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Thanks, I will try to flash Singular ROM and then reflash with WM6.1
Kevlar-Source said:
What type of hermes are both devices? Are they alike? Are they from different sub-builds? Are they HERM100, HERM200, HERM300?
Maybe the problem is related to that.
Cheers.
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These are both IMate JasJam devices sold by the same cellular provider (Cellcom) on the same date!
Both devices had the original WM5 ROM from Cellcom.
Both devices were HR before the upgrade. On the first one (mine), I flashed about 10 ROMs including both WM6 and WM6.1, before I found the perfect one (WM6.1). On the second device, I flashed it with that ROM from the beginning.
May be flashing WM6 on the other device before WM6.1 will solve the problem.
Does anybody know why this happens? How reflashing the ROM solves the problem?

ActiveSync problems with several cooked ROMs

Hello everybody!
I have noticed, there are problems with ActiveSync after ROM flashing appearing.
To be specific, ActiveSync activates itself automatically, without any obvious reason. ActiveSync window is also activated whenever an USB connector is used (thus also when charging only)!
I went through the several threads already, finding two fix-tips mentioned in there. However none of them seems to work in my case:
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2798581&postcount=4757
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2807581&postcount=4789
I have to admit, I am also surprised by the fact that I have the same problem independently on the ROM flashed (experienced with A.Z.T.O.R. V7 & SwiftBL Diamond V7.5 Full so far – that’s also the reason why I’ve decided to set this new thread).
Can somebody help me to solve this problem (which is obviously bothering more users already)?
Dou you have any explanation to this behavior?
FYI:
My initial ROM: O2 GE ROM 1.37
Actual ROM:
SPL: 1.40.OliNex
A.Z.T.O.R. V7 (previously SwiftBL Diamond V7.5 Full tested)
May the reason be some improper flash-procedure?
What is the reason of hard-reset after flash? (When it should be done?)
Many thanks for any replays in advance…
Hi !
I have the same problem.
I dont know if the problem was there in the officil ROM,
but i have Swift 7.5 ROM and it has the activesynckill,
but no result. ActiveSync starts on itself.
Hm, maybe someone find a resolution to this problem.
severoprisan said:
Hi !
I have the same problem.
I dont know if the problem was there in the officil ROM,
but i have Swift 7.5 ROM and it has the activesynckill,
but no result. ActiveSync starts on itself.
Hm, maybe someone find a resolution to this problem.
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Search for Elias async killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436099&highlight=elias+async
Works fine for me.
Ciao, Andrea
The problem is that even after I close AS
it starts by itself without connecting the phone
to the pc. Is runing in the background. If I see it
I close it and after some time there it is again,
runing in the background.
So do I have the same problem and the solution mentioned above couldn't solve the problem.
Waiting for help, too.
Thanks
Genius2000 said:
Search for Elias async killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436099&highlight=elias+async
Works fine for me.
Ciao, Andrea
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Hello Andrea,
thanks for the link to the Elias async killer. I'll try it ... however I would like to UNDERSTAND the thing! ;-)
I would like to know why there are SOME users having this problem, when some others never heard about it! There has to be some reason causing this kind of trouble...
I don't like using extra fix generally, I prefer finding the solution! ;-)
So, can anybody help, please?
EDIT: done.

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